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Bslim
2023-02-04 6:55:22 AM  
"Good experience (but) won't see em again. Their set was new song focused and the crowd struggled to feel it," criticised a third.
"Been their biggest fan all my life and after that concert would never go again. Played a few old songs but mostly new rubbish that no one knows," someone else agreed

Ugh, major Star Wars " fan" energy. Seriously, so-called fans are just the worst whiners.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-04 7:01:41 AM  
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Alphax
2023-02-04 7:08:23 AM  
If they're like that about their favorite band's new songs, what do they do about opening acts?  Riot?
 
Aussie_As
2023-02-04 7:08:38 AM  

Bslim: "Good experience (but) won't see em again. Their set was new song focused and the crowd struggled to feel it," criticised a third.
"Been their biggest fan all my life and after that concert would never go again. Played a few old songs but mostly new rubbish that no one knows," someone else agreed

Ugh, major Star Wars " fan" energy. Seriously, so-called fans are just the worst whiners.


Yeah, sadly Aussies don't like much that's new, we generally like what's safe which is why it's inevitably tourists who get done by the wildlife here (to play up a Fark stereotype). The reality is there would not be a single radio station here playing new stuff by the Chili Peppers, they only get played on the "classic rock" format stations here, so that's all their "fans" know for the most part.

It's pretty weird to whinge about it though. whether you're listening to old songs about living in California where you used to do drugs but are doing much better now or new songs about living in California where you used to do drugs but are doing better now wouldn't make a huge amount of difference, one might think.
 
Alphax
2023-02-04 7:13:44 AM  

Aussie_As: Yeah, sadly Aussies don't like much that's new, we generally like what's safe which is why it's inevitably tourists who get done by the wildlife here (to play up a Fark stereotype). The reality is there would not be a single radio station here playing new stuff by the Chili Peppers, they only get played on the "classic rock" format stations here, so that's all their "fans" know for the most part.


I don't think my local radio stations play any of their music from this century, either.

Well, I get the 'Real Rock Radio' station that mostly sticks to music over 30 years old, the Alternative station that's half stuck in the 90's, the 'variety' station that mostly plays bland stuff from the 80's and 90's that I didn't like the first time.  And some R&B and Country stations that I don't listen to.
 
nakmuay
2023-02-04 7:16:46 AM  
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swahnhennessy
2023-02-04 7:19:50 AM  
I wouldn't expect RHCP fans to be any more interesting than their band of choice.

RHCP has one decent song. It's the same one they've been recording and performing since 1986.
 
Bondith
2023-02-04 7:36:38 AM  
Rocky Horror Clown Posse?

<RTFA>

Oh.  Carry on.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-04 7:41:55 AM  

Alphax: If they're like that about their favorite band's new songs, what do they do about opening acts?  Riot?


23 Minutes Over Brisbane
 
Billy Liar
2023-02-04 7:45:27 AM  
"I WANT TO HEAR THE SAME SONGS I PLAY ON THE STEREO EVERY DAY!  AND DON'T CHANGE THEM ANY, EITHER!!!"
 
Biledriver
2023-02-04 7:46:11 AM  
The new stuff must really be awful because If the bands any good it shouldn't matter whether they've heard the songs or not.  Or maybe they were never really fans to begin with.
 
professionalenabler
2023-02-04 7:49:30 AM  
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Aussie_As
2023-02-04 7:50:17 AM  
This thread is becoming about as repetitive as the RHCP catalogue.
 
Cornelius Dribble
2023-02-04 7:56:24 AM  
If you gotta play at garden parties, I wish you a lotta luck
But if memories were all I sang, I rather drive a truck
Garden Party by Ricky Nelson 1972 Official | Stone Canyon Band | Original Lyrics in Description
Youtube 60XTeHM9iLQ
 
Robo Beat
2023-02-04 8:12:43 AM  

Aussie_As: Bslim: "Good experience (but) won't see em again. Their set was new song focused and the crowd struggled to feel it," criticised a third.
"Been their biggest fan all my life and after that concert would never go again. Played a few old songs but mostly new rubbish that no one knows," someone else agreed

Ugh, major Star Wars " fan" energy. Seriously, so-called fans are just the worst whiners.

Yeah, sadly Aussies don't like much that's new, we generally like what's safe which is why it's inevitably tourists who get done by the wildlife here (to play up a Fark stereotype). The reality is there would not be a single radio station here playing new stuff by the Chili Peppers, they only get played on the "classic rock" format stations here, so that's all their "fans" know for the most part.

It's pretty weird to whinge about it though. whether you're listening to old songs about living in California where you used to do drugs but are doing much better now or new songs about living in California where you used to do drugs but are doing better now wouldn't make a huge amount of difference, one might think.


I have this picture in my head of the average Aussie classic rock station that's nothing but 40-year-old Acca Dacca singles with the occasional Cold Chisel song thrown in every few days for spice.
 
FriarReb98 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 8:20:02 AM  

Biledriver: The new stuff must really be awful because If the bands any good it shouldn't matter whether they've heard the songs or not.  Or maybe they were never really fans to begin with.


The problem is that, without the old system of promotion that forced new songs down your throat for a few weeks until they were either hits or flops, they don't even bother playing it anymore more than a few times a week. You can't build on that, so the majority of people who want to see them but aren't superfans don't know it and get bored.

This becomes especially true when you're stuck in a style rut as deep as Frusciante has been for the past 20 years.
 
Burra
2023-02-04 8:20:25 AM  
nsfw probably, i dunno, i like their old stuff better than their less old stuff
Regurgitator - I Like Your Old Remix
Youtube Iun4shGD740
 
fearmongert
2023-02-04 8:27:28 AM  

swahnhennessy: I wouldn't expect RHCP fans to be any more interesting than their band of choice.

RHCP has one decent song. It's the same one they've been recording and performing since 1986.


Is it that one about Claifornia?
 
Aussie_As
2023-02-04 8:29:46 AM  

Robo Beat: I have this picture in my head of the average Aussie classic rock station that's nothing but 40-year-old Acca Dacca singles with the occasional Cold Chisel song thrown in every few days for spice.


The main national classic rock station is the Triple M network, it's a mix of Aussie stuff plus US and UK, the occasional NZ band like Split Enz. As far as Aussie bands go ACDC get a run, often from the Bon Scott era (Jailbreak, Long Way to the Top), I reckon they play more Cold Chisel (it suits the station format better, and they had a lot of radio-friendly hits), some Midnight Oil, maybe some Powderfinger. But yeah else it's a lot of Pat Benetar, Simple Minds, Dire Straits, RCHP, maybe even a little Nirvana if they're feeling experimental, standard 'classic rock' stuff you'd hear anywhere in the western world.

You hardly ever hear a song you don't know, but I occasionally hear the station on a Sunday morning when they do their "almost accoustic" program of accoustic versions of the normal songs from the playlist. I almost enjoyed a version of Def Leppard's 'Animal' until I worked out what it was. Then I turned it off when they played a version of Phil Collins 'In the Air Tonight' which completely lacked the only decent bit of the song - the huge drum intro a couple of verses in. Pointless.
 
Aussie_As
2023-02-04 8:30:53 AM  

Burra: nsfw probably, i dunno, i like their old stuff better than their less old stuff
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Iun4shGD740]


Awesome, well Farked.
 
Wine Sipping Elitist [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 8:45:39 AM  

Biledriver: The new stuff must really be awful because If the bands any good it shouldn't matter whether they've heard the songs or not.  Or maybe they were never really fans to begin with.


It might because RHCP doesn't own or didn't want to pay the licensing rights to play their old songs.

I know I won't go to any Lauryn Hill concerts for this reason. If she decides to show up at all, she can't play the original version of her old music. She doesn't own the rights.

That might be difficult for fans to accept. It's also why "greatest hits" collections might have your favorite artist singing their favorite song, but it's not the original version of the song. The artist is paid for the performance and doesn't want to pay royalties, too.
 
thesharkman
2023-02-04 8:52:43 AM  
"I'm a huge fan of the band but haven't listened to anything since Californication"
 
Burra
2023-02-04 8:54:56 AM  

Aussie_As: Burra: nsfw probably, i dunno, i like their old stuff better than their less old stuff
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Iun4shGD740]

Awesome, well Farked.


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magneticmushroom [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:01:57 AM  

Bondith: Rocky Horror Clown Posse?

<RTFA>

Oh.  Carry on.


Antici...

fornia, motherfarker.
 
Barton Fink
2023-02-04 9:13:11 AM  
Ive been complaining about that since mother's milk tour
 
Candygram4Mongo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:23:56 AM  
Those are the kind of people who heard the Beatles rooftop concert, and were shouting: "Play Love Me Do!!"
 
Marcos P
2023-02-04 9:39:19 AM  
I'd go see them just to chant Willlllllllll Ferallllllllllll at the drummer again
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:49:17 AM  

Burra: nsfw probably, i dunno, i like their old stuff better than their less old stuff
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Iun4shGD740]


Your Early Stuff (2017 Remaster)
Youtube 2KXfJtBWCcw
 
Nicki Minaj's Cousin's Friend's Swollen Testicle
2023-02-04 9:51:28 AM  
According to the setlist in TFA they closed the set with:
-By the Way
-Sir Psycho Sexy
-They're Red Hot
-Give It Away

So I don't know what the moaners are complaining about.
 
Trainspotr
2023-02-04 9:53:04 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: Biledriver: The new stuff must really be awful because If the bands any good it shouldn't matter whether they've heard the songs or not.  Or maybe they were never really fans to begin with.

It might because RHCP doesn't own or didn't want to pay the licensing rights to play their old songs.

I know I won't go to any Lauryn Hill concerts for this reason. If she decides to show up at all, she can't play the original version of her old music. She doesn't own the rights.

That might be difficult for fans to accept. It's also why "greatest hits" collections might have your favorite artist singing their favorite song, but it's not the original version of the song. The artist is paid for the performance and doesn't want to pay royalties, too.


I mean, they sold the rights for over $140 million less than two years ago. They should be able to afford the fees for playing their old stuff.
 
Brewster [BareFark]
2023-02-04 9:56:36 AM  

Barton Fink: Ive been complaining about that since mother's milk tour


if they've got more than one sock on, I probably don't like what they're playing.
 
WalkingCarpet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-04 10:08:15 AM  
"I'm forever near a stereo saying, 'What the fark is this garbage?' And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers."

- Nick Cave
 
drewogatory
2023-02-04 10:08:46 AM  
The Chili Peppers were great when they were a high energy novelty bar band. But I can't imagine them being able to play a huge venue and be compelling. I think the last time I saw them was at The Fillmore in SF and even that was too big. And what happened to the sax player? They had a sax player right? Or am I just senile?
 
americanflannel
2023-02-04 10:15:17 AM  

drewogatory: The Chili Peppers were great when they were a high energy novelty bar band. But I can't imagine them being able to play a huge venue and be compelling. I think the last time I saw them was at The Fillmore in SF and even that was too big. And what happened to the sax player? They had a sax player right? Or am I just senile?


You're thinking fishbone.

Anyways RHCP is weird that they had three massive wave of hits, blood sugar sex magic then decades later californication then decade later stadium Arcadia. That is unusual for a band. When they say play the hits what does that even mean with that catalog?

They played soul to squeeze that would be the song that made me happy, but my generation would want to hear under the bridge. They played pea which I really liked that album but problamaticlly I would like to hear areoplane. Etc.

They can't do a standard length set without forgoing huge parts of their fandom.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-04 10:27:26 AM  

americanflannel: drewogatory: The Chili Peppers were great when they were a high energy novelty bar band. But I can't imagine them being able to play a huge venue and be compelling. I think the last time I saw them was at The Fillmore in SF and even that was too big. And what happened to the sax player? They had a sax player right? Or am I just senile?

You're thinking fishbone.

Anyways RHCP is weird that they had three massive wave of hits, blood sugar sex magic then decades later californication then decade later stadium Arcadia. That is unusual for a band. When they say play the hits what does that even mean with that catalog?

They played soul to squeeze that would be the song that made me happy, but my generation would want to hear under the bridge. They played pea which I really liked that album but problamaticlly I would like to hear areoplane. Etc.

They can't do a standard length set without forgoing huge parts of their fandom.


No way I'm confusing RHCP with Fishbone. I've seen Fishbone 20 times if I've seen them once. Anyway, dude's name was Tree evidently.

Tree returned to the band in 1989, playing tenor saxophone on the album Mother's Milk.[7] He also performed on the Mother's Milk Tour.[8]
 
firesign [BareFark]
2023-02-04 10:47:18 AM  
Guys, guys. It's ok to admit that RHCP just aren't good anymore, and that they've been getting limper and more boring ever since they basically quit playing funk-metal and started letting Frusciante or whoever write the same goddamn downbeat meandery emo crap dirges over and over again.

Sometimes bands happen to hit it huge right at the moment they run out of ideas. It happens.
 
Random Celebrity Insult Generator [BareFark]
2023-02-04 10:48:38 AM  

swahnhennessy: I wouldn't expect RHCP fans to be any more interesting than their band of choice.

RHCP has one decent song. It's the same one they've been recording and performing since 1986.


Australia's most successful band is one that released album after album of the same song--perhaps they should cater to this type of audience if they want their tour revenue back in black
 
drewogatory
2023-02-04 10:56:53 AM  

Random Celebrity Insult Generator: swahnhennessy: I wouldn't expect RHCP fans to be any more interesting than their band of choice.

RHCP has one decent song. It's the same one they've been recording and performing since 1986.

Australia's most successful band is one that released album after album of the same song--perhaps they should cater to this type of audience if they want their tour revenue back in black


Is AC/DC Australia's biggest band still? I'm not sure they have sold more records than Kylie or the Bee Gees, but it's probably close between them.
 
A Room Full of Angry Raccoons
2023-02-04 11:28:11 AM  

Random Celebrity Insult Generator: swahnhennessy: I wouldn't expect RHCP fans to be any more interesting than their band of choice.

RHCP has one decent song. It's the same one they've been recording and performing since 1986.

Australia's most successful band is one that released album after album of the same song--perhaps they should cater to this type of audience if they want their tour revenue back in black


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Nana's Vibrator
2023-02-04 11:31:58 AM  

firesign: Guys, guys. It's ok to admit that RHCP just aren't good anymore, and that they've been getting limper and more boring ever since they basically quit playing funk-metal and started letting Frusciante or whoever write the same goddamn downbeat meandery emo crap dirges over and over again.

Sometimes bands happen to hit it huge right at the moment they run out of ideas. It happens.


It's also OK to admit you just never liked them and haven't heard any of their albums instead of posting ... that.

/I don't care for them anymore, either
 
Eightballjacket [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 11:43:13 AM  

Nicki Minaj's Cousin's Friend's Swollen Testicle: According to the setlist in TFA they closed the set with:
-By the Way
-Sir Psycho Sexy
-They're Red Hot
-Give It Away

So I don't know what the moaners are complaining about.


Number 1 complaint :  What the hell am I doing at a RHCP concert.
 
firesign [BareFark]
2023-02-04 11:49:37 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: firesign: Guys, guys. It's ok to admit that RHCP just aren't good anymore, and that they've been getting limper and more boring ever since they basically quit playing funk-metal and started letting Frusciante or whoever write the same goddamn downbeat meandery emo crap dirges over and over again.

Sometimes bands happen to hit it huge right at the moment they run out of ideas. It happens.

It's also OK to admit you just never liked them and haven't heard any of their albums instead of posting ... that.

/I don't care for them anymore, either


Nana's Vibrator: firesign: Guys, guys. It's ok to admit that RHCP just aren't good anymore, and that they've been getting limper and more boring ever since they basically quit playing funk-metal and started letting Frusciante or whoever write the same goddamn downbeat meandery emo crap dirges over and over again.

Sometimes bands happen to hit it huge right at the moment they run out of ideas. It happens.

It's also OK to admit you just never liked them and haven't heard any of their albums instead of posting ... that.

/I don't care for them anymore, either


Well I certainly assumed that I had liked Uplift Mofo Party Plan, Mother's Milk, and (the one I actually started with, like everyone) Blood Sugar Sex Magic a lot, but I have been drinking today, so who knows what the hell else I said. One Hot Minute was crap, and especially embarrassing when they TRIED to play faster stuff and couldn't. And By the Way sounded like a terrible RHCP cover band.
 
firesign [BareFark]
2023-02-04 11:50:09 AM  

firesign: Nana's Vibrator: firesign: Guys, guys. It's ok to admit that RHCP just aren't good anymore, and that they've been getting limper and more boring ever since they basically quit playing funk-metal and started letting Frusciante or whoever write the same goddamn downbeat meandery emo crap dirges over and over again.

Sometimes bands happen to hit it huge right at the moment they run out of ideas. It happens.

It's also OK to admit you just never liked them and haven't heard any of their albums instead of posting ... that.

/I don't care for them anymore, either

Nana's Vibrator: firesign: Guys, guys. It's ok to admit that RHCP just aren't good anymore, and that they've been getting limper and more boring ever since they basically quit playing funk-metal and started letting Frusciante or whoever write the same goddamn downbeat meandery emo crap dirges over and over again.

Sometimes bands happen to hit it huge right at the moment they run out of ideas. It happens.

It's also OK to admit you just never liked them and haven't heard any of their albums instead of posting ... that.

/I don't care for them anymore, either

Well I certainly assumed that I had liked Uplift Mofo Party Plan, Mother's Milk, and (the one I actually started with, like everyone) Blood Sugar Sex Magic a lot, but I have been drinking today, so who knows what the hell else I said. One Hot Minute was crap, and especially embarrassing when they TRIED to play faster stuff and couldn't. And By the Way sounded like a terrible RHCP cover band.


...hmm. like I said, I've been drinking today.
 
Dead for Tax Reasons
2023-02-04 12:04:34 PM  

Alphax: If they're like that about their favorite band's new songs, what do they do about opening acts?  Riot?


pregame outside?
 
magneticmushroom [OhFark]
2023-02-04 12:06:48 PM  
Californication would have been a perfect album to go out on. Frusciante's happy just making bedroom albums by himself, and Flea was never more interesting than what he was getting into with Thom Yorke.

I'm sure Kiedis could find any number of things to do and Chad looks tired, man.
 
Dead for Tax Reasons
2023-02-04 12:11:27 PM  

Alphax: If they're like that about their favorite band's new songs, what do they do about opening acts?  Riot?


seems like post malone opened for them so maybe rioting would be appropriate
 
realmolo
2023-02-04 12:16:37 PM  
I'm going to side with the disappointed ticket-buyers, here.

At this point, RHCP is a nostalgia act. They just are. People that see them live want to see them play the hits.

Any band/musician that has been at it for a long time reaches the point where their best music is behind them. RHCP has been at that point for 25 years.

My theory is that for a band, musician, or really *any* artist, there is a limited amount of "good ideas". They generally use them in in the first decade of their fame. After that, all they can do is diluted variations on what they have already done. At that point, they should stop with the new  material and just accept that they are going to live off of their past successes. Which is fine! It's awesome! If you can be a "living legend" (which is hyperbolic, but you know what I'm saying), why wouldn't you be?
 
sat1va
2023-02-04 12:24:00 PM  
Anthony Keidis's live vocals are so terribad that they probably were doing their old songs and nobody recognized it.
 
thanksagainandagain
2023-02-04 12:28:36 PM  
This thread makes me wanna listen to Jethro Tull, and I have no idea why.
 
drewogatory
2023-02-04 12:46:02 PM  

thanksagainandagain: This thread makes me wanna listen to Jethro Tull, and I have no idea why.


For a band that's probably sold 75 million records it's weird that Tull is best remembered for winning their "make up" Grammy at the expense of Metallica who won a bunch more later, or as the ultimate "uncool" band, making Rush look like Ramones in that dept.
 
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