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Ghastly [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 8:35:49 PM  
HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.
 
NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 8:38:11 PM  

Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.


Bill Maher?

I can't figure out who his audience actually is.  Both sides seem to absolutely hate him.
 
Nintenfreak [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 8:47:49 PM  
Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words
 
Nintenfreak [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 8:54:57 PM  
So I just went through the article cuz I was curious what it was about. And I remember hearing the rumor way back when I was a kid. And it was one of those things that I thought was kind of dumb and looking back on it the way we treated homosexuality in media as some kind of pornographic thing has always been kind of farked up. Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons. Not really. You can allude to it the sensors almost always stopped that sort of thing out.
 
snowjack [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 9:34:06 PM  
Sarah Michelle Gellar reveals a "steamy" kiss between Velma and Daphne was cut from Scooby-Doo  "The world wants to see it," Gellar said this week, of a same-sex kiss cut from James Gunn's 2002 Scooby-Doomovie

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Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 9:55:49 PM  

Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.


You know, I watched the first two episodes when they dropped and thought "this show is terrible, I have no idea who they made this for." Then last night I saw they had released more episodes, so I started watching episode three. I made it ten minutes in and decided my life is too short.

Velma is awful in multiple ways, but the biggest swing and a miss is that the main character is really, really unlikable. And not in an anti-hero sort of way, but in a total asshole kind of way. It's almost like someone made a sitcom starring Donald Trump. Like if they started off episode 3 with someone shooting Velma in the head, it would have immediately improved the show.
 
Ghastly [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 10:43:17 PM  

Lsherm: Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.

You know, I watched the first two episodes when they dropped and thought "this show is terrible, I have no idea who they made this for." Then last night I saw they had released more episodes, so I started watching episode three. I made it ten minutes in and decided my life is too short.

Velma is awful in multiple ways, but the biggest swing and a miss is that the main character is really, really unlikable. And not in an anti-hero sort of way, but in a total asshole kind of way. It's almost like someone made a sitcom starring Donald Trump. Like if they started off episode 3 with someone shooting Velma in the head, it would have immediately improved the show.


I strongly suspect the show runner had an idea for a teen highschool drama about a very problematic teenage girl and WB said "nah, we're not going to pay for something that isn't a property we completely own" so the show runner quickly crossed out all the names and re-submitted the script but now all the characters have Scooby Doo names.
 
Gordon Bennett [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 11:26:41 PM  
I think you're missing the point of this thread.

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Oysterman
2023-02-04 1:13:30 AM  
Point: HBO Velma (It really has gotten a lot better)

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moothemagiccow
2023-02-04 1:15:18 AM  

Nintenfreak: Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons


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Red Shirt Blues
2023-02-04 1:30:46 AM  

moothemagiccow: Nintenfreak: Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons

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baron von doodle [OhFark]
2023-02-04 1:59:19 AM  

NeoCortex42: Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.

Bill Maher?

I can't figure out who his audience actually is.  Both sides seem to absolutely hate him.


Like, what if Ayn Rand got, like, really high?

His audience is old school hippies who turned into libertarians.
 
Ghastly [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 2:04:56 AM  

baron von doodle: NeoCortex42: Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.

Bill Maher?

I can't figure out who his audience actually is.  Both sides seem to absolutely hate him.

Like, what if Ayn Rand got, like, really high?

His audience is old school hippies who turned into libertarians.


If drugs and prostitution were both made legal Bill Maher and most libertarians would just fade away.
 
Nintenfreak [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 2:09:00 AM  

moothemagiccow: Nintenfreak: Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons

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you had to imply it, which is what I meant.  You couldn't have serious homosexuality because it was pornographic or ome shiat.
 
Nintenfreak [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 2:10:01 AM  

Oysterman: Point: HBO Velma (It really has gotten a lot better)

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NO.  No it hasn't.  IT has all the same issues from the shiatty characters to the metacommentary to the unfunny bad jokes it's had since episode one, Oysterman is lying to you.
 
mangtomas
2023-02-04 2:15:46 AM  
Did the concept of "Hot Velma" really exist before Linda Cardellini ?
 
Stud Gerbil
2023-02-04 2:25:48 AM  

mangtomas: Did the concept of "Hot Velma" really exist before Linda Cardellini ?


since the beginning.
 
Zombie DJ
2023-02-04 2:26:49 AM  

mangtomas: Did the concept of "Hot Velma" really exist before Linda Cardellini ?


Since comic conventions started....
 
Chemlight Battery
2023-02-04 2:31:32 AM  

Ghastly: I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.


Honest to god, I'm not sure if you're talking about the terrorist attacks or that medical show on Fox.
 
jaytkay [OhFark]
2023-02-04 2:42:52 AM  
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2023-02-04 2:45:46 AM  
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2023-02-04 2:46:48 AM  
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Blathering Idjut
2023-02-04 3:25:13 AM  

Nintenfreak: Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words


Dafuq is this racist crap?
 
ghostfacekillahrabbit
2023-02-04 3:26:06 AM  

jaytkay: [th.bing.com image 850x566]


Is Topher Grace playing Fred?
 
baron von doodle [OhFark]
2023-02-04 3:32:02 AM  

Blathering Idjut: Nintenfreak: Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words

Dafuq is this racist crap?


I think you summed it up nicely.
 
Oysterman
2023-02-04 3:34:52 AM  

Blathering Idjut: Nintenfreak: Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words

Dafuq is this racist crap?


The micro mistake of black "propoganda" when she's Indian (unless Norville or Gigi really pissed them off for just kind of being there) or the macro fragile ego that needs everyone to think the show is bad to feel better about themselves?
 
Nintenfreak [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 3:51:34 AM  

Blathering Idjut: Nintenfreak: Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words

Dafuq is this racist crap?


Mindy Kaling is a fascist TERF. It's got zero to do with her race. Black propoganda has nothing to do with race either
 
Nintenfreak [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 3:52:41 AM  

Oysterman: Blathering Idjut: Nintenfreak: Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words

Dafuq is this racist crap?

The micro mistake of black "propoganda" when she's Indian (unless Norville or Gigi really pissed them off for just kind of being there) or the macro fragile ego that needs everyone to think the show is bad to feel better about themselves?


No it's not a race thing black propoganda is when you create something to intentionally offend the people you agree with so they'll be riled up more. It's not a term I made up.
 
bostonguy [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 4:07:55 AM  
Now that's a Buffy and Freaks and Geeks crossover we'd still want to see.
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-04 4:35:45 AM  
They really should make Ghostbusts specifically aimed to people in their 40s and 50s
/*unmasks villain* "just what I suspected, there were only two genders all along!"
 
padraig
2023-02-04 4:42:42 AM  

snowjack: Sarah Michelle Gellar reveals a "steamy" kiss between Velma and Daphne was cut from Scooby-Doo  "The world wants to see it," Gellar said this week, of a same-sex kiss cut from James Gunn's 2002 Scooby-Doomovie

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The world wants to see way more than a kiss
 
Ragin' Asian [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-04 4:50:06 AM  

Nintenfreak: Oysterman: Blathering Idjut: Nintenfreak: Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words

Dafuq is this racist crap?

The micro mistake of black "propoganda" when she's Indian (unless Norville or Gigi really pissed them off for just kind of being there) or the macro fragile ego that needs everyone to think the show is bad to feel better about themselves?

No it's not a race thing black propoganda is when you create something to intentionally offend the people you agree with so they'll be riled up more. It's not a term I made up.


Did a black person brush up against you on public transport in the big city once and you were traumatized for life? That's the only thing I can surmise to explain your interpretation of discourse on race.
 
Smoking GNU
2023-02-04 7:03:15 AM  

Lsherm: Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.

You know, I watched the first two episodes when they dropped and thought "this show is terrible, I have no idea who they made this for." Then last night I saw they had released more episodes, so I started watching episode three. I made it ten minutes in and decided my life is too short.

Velma is awful in multiple ways, but the biggest swing and a miss is that the main character is really, really unlikable. And not in an anti-hero sort of way, but in a total asshole kind of way. It's almost like someone made a sitcom starring Donald Trump. Like if they started off episode 3 with someone shooting Velma in the head, it would have immediately improved the show.


Noticing a trend lately that some writers think Strong Female Character should automatically mean Unlikable Asshole for some reason
 
grokca [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 7:33:05 AM  
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Ishkur [OhFark]
2023-02-04 7:41:55 AM  

baron von doodle: Like, what if Ayn Rand got, like, really high?


She'd probably write something really turgid, like Atlas Shrugged.

/no, really
//wrote the whole thing on amphetamines
///while boning Nathaniel Branden
 
Fano
2023-02-04 8:09:55 AM  

Nintenfreak: Blathering Idjut: Nintenfreak: Mindy Kaling made a piece of black propoganda and I was so obvious that neither political leaning liked it. The conservatives would never have liked it and the liberals are smarter than Mindy Kaling and understood what she was doing even if they didn't have the words

Dafuq is this racist crap?

Mindy Kaling is a fascist TERF. It's got zero to do with her race. Black propoganda has nothing to do with race either


Since she once like a tweet by JK Rowling ? What's wrong with you
 
UNC_Samurai
2023-02-04 8:13:34 AM  

Ghastly: Lsherm: Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.

You know, I watched the first two episodes when they dropped and thought "this show is terrible, I have no idea who they made this for." Then last night I saw they had released more episodes, so I started watching episode three. I made it ten minutes in and decided my life is too short.

Velma is awful in multiple ways, but the biggest swing and a miss is that the main character is really, really unlikable. And not in an anti-hero sort of way, but in a total asshole kind of way. It's almost like someone made a sitcom starring Donald Trump. Like if they started off episode 3 with someone shooting Velma in the head, it would have immediately improved the show.

I strongly suspect the show runner had an idea for a teen highschool drama about a very problematic teenage girl and WB said "nah, we're not going to pay for something that isn't a property we completely own" so the show runner quickly crossed out all the names and re-submitted the script but now all the characters have Scooby Doo names.


WB does own Scooby-Doo, they got it in the merger with Turner.

And the showrunner is Mindy Kaling, who has built a career off having some success writing a few good episodes of the Office while not being the worst side character.  So she constantly gets chances to make shows where she plays herself.

/Someone compared her to Ellen with the fake facade hiding the mean streak.  But I don't think she hides it well.
 
Magnus Eisengrim
2023-02-04 8:17:31 AM  

UNC_Samurai: /Someone compared her to Ellen with the fake facade hiding the mean streak.  But I don't think she hides it well.


I never go the impression she was particular mean, but she is the living embodiment of "failing upwards".
 
The_Philosopher_King
2023-02-04 8:21:07 AM  
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Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 8:26:19 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: moothemagiccow: Nintenfreak: Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons

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That cartoon is from when they thought the Heimlich maneuver was still the best option for choking victims, I think.
 
EL EM
2023-02-04 8:43:47 AM  
More like Scooby Don't.
 
baron von doodle [OhFark]
2023-02-04 8:49:54 AM  

Lsherm: Red Shirt Blues: moothemagiccow: Nintenfreak: Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons

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That cartoon is from when they thought the Heimlich maneuver was still the best option for choking victims, I think.


And the current best option is what, pointing and laughing?
 
Hell Poodle
2023-02-04 9:03:24 AM  

Lsherm: Red Shirt Blues: moothemagiccow: Nintenfreak: Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons

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That cartoon is from when they thought the Heimlich maneuver was still the best option for choking victims, I think.


... is it not?
 
TheManofPA
2023-02-04 9:27:52 AM  
I'm going to bring this all back to topic
SCOOBY DOO Velma's Song
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firesign [BareFark]
2023-02-04 9:37:35 AM  

mangtomas: Did the concept of "Hot Velma" really exist before Linda Cardellini ?


Counterpoint: since Linda Cardellini's Hot Velma exists, does anything else matter?

/call me, Linda!
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-02-04 9:46:27 AM  
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AdrienVeidt
2023-02-04 9:55:34 AM  

mangtomas: Did the concept of "Hot Velma" really exist before Linda Cardellini ?


Why do you think she was chosen in the first place?
 
The_Philosopher_King
2023-02-04 9:56:22 AM  

Lsherm: Red Shirt Blues: moothemagiccow: Nintenfreak: Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons

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That cartoon is from when they thought the Heimlich maneuver was still the best option for choking victims, I think.


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Tyrone Slothrop [TotalFark]
2023-02-04 10:22:08 AM  

Nintenfreak: So I just went through the article cuz I was curious what it was about. And I remember hearing the rumor way back when I was a kid. And it was one of those things that I thought was kind of dumb and looking back on it the way we treated homosexuality in media as some kind of pornographic thing has always been kind of farked up. Hell back in the last decade you couldn't have gay relationships in kids cartoons. Not really. You can allude to it the sensors almost always stopped that sort of thing out.


Adventure Time ended with two characters coming out as gay, and even kissing.
 
p89tech
2023-02-04 10:24:04 AM  

NeoCortex42: Ghastly: HBO's Velma is amazing in how it has united critics on the left and on the right in their universal hatred of the show (even if they hate the show for different reasons). I can't remember the last time something has united the left and right to such a strong degree since 911.

Bill Maher?

I can't figure out who his audience actually is.  Both sides seem to absolutely hate him.


Ah yes, but they do WATCH him even if they hate him.
 
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