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(Yahoo)   Kyrie escapes again down the road that he must travel   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line
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2023-02-03 9:56:48 PM  
Mavericks, Suns or LA Clippers would make sense for a rental shot at a title, but he is 100% going to be a Laker (and Russ will be going to Brooklyn)
 
2023-02-03 11:22:19 PM  
The Nets truly are the isle of misfit toys.
 
2023-02-03 11:52:00 PM  

OptionC: Mavericks, Suns or LA Clippers would make sense for a rental shot at a title, but he is 100% going to be a Laker (and Russ will be going to Brooklyn)


I'm scratching my head wondering why any team would want him at the rental rate he's gonna want.   I do not see the advantage, short or long term.
 
2023-02-03 11:56:55 PM  
Nets: we will offer you max contract, you just can't praise Hitler.

Kyrie: fark you guys, I want out.
 
2023-02-04 12:06:50 AM  

OptionC: Mavericks, Suns or LA Clippers would make sense for a rental shot at a title, but he is 100% going to be a Laker (and Russ will be going to Brooklyn)


I wouldn't be so sure. The other teams can offer a better trade package than the Lakers.

Then again, this is Kyrie we're taking about, so we should expect the dumbest thing to happen.
 
2023-02-04 12:08:21 AM  
Ask your stepmom. Shetellia.
 
2023-02-04 12:10:03 AM  
Did he carry a laser down the road that he must travel?
 
2023-02-04 12:25:23 AM  

Stud Gerbil: OptionC: Mavericks, Suns or LA Clippers would make sense for a rental shot at a title, but he is 100% going to be a Laker (and Russ will be going to Brooklyn)

I'm scratching my head wondering why any team would want him at the rental rate he's gonna want.   I do not see the advantage, short or long term.


His contract is his contract for the balance of the season.  I doubt he re-ups with the team that trades for if that team isn't the Lakers.
 
2023-02-04 12:28:26 AM  
+1...Subby rules!
 
2023-02-04 12:56:12 AM  

OptionC: Stud Gerbil: OptionC: Mavericks, Suns or LA Clippers would make sense for a rental shot at a title, but he is 100% going to be a Laker (and Russ will be going to Brooklyn)

I'm scratching my head wondering why any team would want him at the rental rate he's gonna want.   I do not see the advantage, short or long term.

His contract is his contract for the balance of the season.  I doubt he re-ups with the team that trades for if that team isn't the Lakers.


Which is why he isn't getting traded. The Lakers can't really make an offer that will appeal to Brooklyn--KD will not be down for a reunion with Russ--and there's no point in anyone else parting with assets for three months of a talented but totally unreliable malcontent.
 
2023-02-04 1:46:00 AM  
Seriously, did Vontaze Burfict f*ck this guy up at some point around 2016 or something and we never heard about it?
 
2023-02-04 2:18:42 AM  
If the NBA consisted of 1-on-1 competitions as part of its structure? yea, get him.

Otherwise. Savannah Bananas is the marketing ploy.

Never understood what positive he ever brought to a contender.
 
2023-02-04 4:08:36 AM  
Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenburg and Joe Smith have all played for 12 NBA franchises (minimum of one game played).  Kyrie: only three, so far.
 
2023-02-04 4:44:01 AM  
What a disappointing end to the Brooklyn Crazypeepo.  I was expecting Irving, Durant and James Harden to take a dump right at center court and breakdance in it.  Then Harden left but Simmons came along and I figured a murder suicide pact was on the table.  But no. Just a whole lot of nothing.
 
2023-02-04 5:16:07 AM  

Cokezeroinacan: Nets: we will offer you max contract, you just can't praise Hitler.

Kyrie: fark you guys, I want out.


O Ye, of weak eyesight/memory
 
2023-02-04 5:18:15 AM  

Omnivorous: Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenburg and Joe Smith have all played for 12 NBA franchises (minimum of one game played).  Kyrie: only three, so far.


That's nothing, JR Smith played for two franchises in one game
 
2023-02-04 5:58:38 AM  
Has Kyrie Irving ever been happy? This guy really needs a shrink.
 
2023-02-04 7:40:37 AM  

OptionC: Stud Gerbil: OptionC: Mavericks, Suns or LA Clippers would make sense for a rental shot at a title, but he is 100% going to be a Laker (and Russ will be going to Brooklyn)

I'm scratching my head wondering why any team would want him at the rental rate he's gonna want.   I do not see the advantage, short or long term.

His contract is his contract for the balance of the season.  I doubt he re-ups with the team that trades for if that team isn't the Lakers.


Probably, but Dallas was on his list of teams when he initially demanded a trade last offseason. As a Mavs fan, I'm conflicted. He is a nut and all that but damn he would finally be that 2nd star that Dallas has wanted to pair with Luka since he was drafted. Probably wouldn't have to part with too much, sounds like they want Dinwiddie and Finney Smith for him, probably no pick. Massive risk, could destroy the team, but might make them a real title contender as well. If I was in charge I would just wait until the offseason and make moves when we finally have assets, which we haven't had in years due to the Porzingis trade. As an NBA fan I guess I'm happy the trade deadline is actually getting interesting, was looking to be a snoozefest.
 
2023-02-04 8:09:39 AM  
I kinda want to see World B. Flat here go to the Lakers, just so he's forced to play second fiddle to Lebron once again.
 
2023-02-04 8:11:40 AM  
Welcome to Salt Lake City, Scottie Pippen Jr.!
 
2023-02-04 8:13:43 AM  

Robo Beat: World B. Flat


*snort*

That works on so many levels.
 
2023-02-04 8:33:41 AM  

puffy999: Seriously, did Vontaze Burfict f*ck this guy up at some point around 2016 or something and we never heard about it?


Kyrie was one of those kids everyone knew was going to play in the pros.  His dad may have pushed him a little too much (not quite Lavar Ball, maybe more like the St. Brown dude that named all his kids after Egyptian gods).

He transferred high schools because a particular school gave him a better chance at a state championship (the team had Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and six other eventual D1 scholarship players).  His high school coach said the first time he saw the kid Kyrie was wearing two ridiculously watches and (from what I gathered) stretching the school uniform rules Fresh Prince-style.

I haven't heard much from his time at Duke, but he wasn't there long.  Coach K was always diplomatic talking about him, but reading between the lines you can sort of tell he's a little bewildered at Kyrie's behavior.

So my sophisticated wild-ass guess is he got a lot of that "I'm special" treatment at a young age and he bought into his own hype too much.
 
2023-02-04 8:34:18 AM  

LewDux: Omnivorous: Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenburg and Joe Smith have all played for 12 NBA franchises (minimum of one game played).  Kyrie: only three, so far.

That's nothing, JR Smith played for two franchises in one game


So you're saying he was tied, from a certain point of view.
 
2023-02-04 8:41:45 AM  

puffy999: Seriously, did Vontaze Burfict f*ck this guy up at some point around 2016 or something and we never heard about it?


He went to Duke. He didn't get hit. He just sucks.
 
2023-02-04 8:52:03 AM  

Omnivorous: Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenburg and Joe Smith have all played for 12 NBA franchises (minimum of one game played).  Kyrie: only three, so far.


Yeah, but they weren't asking for trades.
 
2023-02-04 8:53:05 AM  

LewDux: Omnivorous: Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenburg and Joe Smith have all played for 12 NBA franchises (minimum of one game played).  Kyrie: only three, so far.

That's nothing, JR Smith played for two franchises in one game


Too soon.
 
2023-02-04 10:59:22 AM  
I'm no capologist but if his contract is up anyway, why would the Nets need another expiring contract like Westbrook? Just sit his ass and let him fark off in the summer.
 
2023-02-04 11:29:40 AM  
I couldn't sing along with that because his name is pronounced ky-REEEEEEEEE.
 
2023-02-04 11:29:49 AM  

drewogatory: I'm no capologist but if his contract is up anyway, why would the Nets need another expiring contract like Westbrook? Just sit his ass and let him fark off in the summer.


The problem is multi-dimensional:

1) The Nets will continue to employ Kevin Durant, so presumably they want to compete for a title.  This means they need a quality point guard - at least a B+ kind of player

2) NBA trades require the incoming and outgoing current year salary to be equal-ish

3) Kyrie Irving makes $36M this year

4) The Nets can't really absorb more than maybe 2 excess players in a trade without having to arrange buyouts of players they would probably prefer to keep

So the simplest possible trade is just Kyrie and flotsam for Westbrook.  Or maybe Kyrie for Chris Paul.  Dallas or the Clippers would probably be sending 3 role player types and it isn't clear if that's what the Nets would want.

Of course, if #1 isn't the case and they want to cash in and start over, then they can shop KD for the big prizes and Simmons for anything they can get.
 
2023-02-04 12:05:01 PM  
After the Super Bowl, is when I stop watching ESPN for a couple of months. Now I love my Around the Horn and Pardon the Interruption plus a little Stephen A in the morning but I can not tolerate the wall to wall banter of the trials and tribulations of Kyrie, Le Bron, KD and the discussion surrounding how in a game that lasts 48 minutes every 2.5 days or so for six months , your Prima Donna players making more in a season than you will ever aspire to earn in three lifetimes, sit their asses down every 4 days or so because of "Load Management" . Where will Kyrie go, who the fark cares. Off the edge of the earth I'm hoping.
 
2023-02-04 12:35:33 PM  
Step 1. Act like a complete douche so no sane team would want anything to do with you.

Step 2. Demand a trade.

Good luck with that. A lot of guys can play basketball. Most of them can do it without being a constant PR nightmare.
 
2023-02-04 1:01:11 PM  
No amount of production from Irving is worth the baggage.  I say chase him off to the Euroleagues and see where his free-thinking takes him.
 
2023-02-04 1:05:38 PM  

OptionC: drewogatory: I'm no capologist but if his contract is up anyway, why would the Nets need another expiring contract like Westbrook? Just sit his ass and let him fark off in the summer.

The problem is multi-dimensional:

1) The Nets will continue to employ Kevin Durant, so presumably they want to compete for a title.  This means they need a quality point guard - at least a B+ kind of player

2) NBA trades require the incoming and outgoing current year salary to be equal-ish

3) Kyrie Irving makes $36M this year

4) The Nets can't really absorb more than maybe 2 excess players in a trade without having to arrange buyouts of players they would probably prefer to keep

So the simplest possible trade is just Kyrie and flotsam for Westbrook.  Or maybe Kyrie for Chris Paul.  Dallas or the Clippers would probably be sending 3 role player types and it isn't clear if that's what the Nets would want.

Of course, if #1 isn't the case and they want to cash in and start over, then they can shop KD for the big prizes and Simmons for anything they can get.


But they don't have to trade anything. Just let him go and use the cap space and avoid having Russ on your team at all.
 
2023-02-04 2:19:50 PM  
Everybody agrees that on the court, LeBron James is essentially all that you could want in a teammate, right? Talented out the ass and unselfish with his play to a fault, right?

Everybody agrees that off the court, James is essentially the last person you want deciding the roster, right?

Everybody agrees that on or off the court, I am awesome in anything I do.

It is weird to me that James could have such a universally recognized high "basketball IQ" but be awful at figuring out the pieces to have around him. It'd be different if he took eighty shots a game with no assists while never trying on defense, I'd expect that sort of player to not know how to build a roster relative to other players.

These are the thoughts of a guy who doesn't watch the NBA but has watched Hoosiers on at least double digit occasions including in the theater as a wee lad. I know what I'm talking about.
 
2023-02-04 2:20:48 PM  

WoodyHayes: Everybody agrees that on the court, LeBron James is essentially all that you could want in a teammate, right? Talented out the ass and unselfish with his play to a fault, right?

Everybody agrees that off the court, James is essentially the last person you want deciding the roster, right?


Jordan is better at that too
 
2023-02-04 2:22:43 PM  

drewogatory: I'm no capologist but if his contract is up anyway, why would the Nets need another expiring contract like Westbrook? Just sit his ass and let him fark off in the summer.


And throw away the season
 
2023-02-04 2:24:18 PM  

LewDux: drewogatory: I'm no capologist but if his contract is up anyway, why would the Nets need another expiring contract like Westbrook? Just sit his ass and let him fark off in the summer.

And throw away the season


I mean, they still have Durant. Make him play and if he's a dick about it fine him. He'll need to play well if he wants to sign as a free agent anyway.
 
2023-02-04 4:14:00 PM  

WoodyHayes: Everybody agrees that on the court, LeBron James is essentially all that you could want in a teammate, right? Talented out the ass and unselfish with his play to a fault, right?

Everybody agrees that off the court, James is essentially the last person you want deciding the roster, right?


LeBron has historically been pretty decent at building rosters. The problem is...the guys that LeBron values had their value increase because of what they do, which makes it so he can't collect them. AD was a good selection, he just breaks down all the time.

Doesn't he select the winning ASG roster every year because everyone else is worse at picking a roster?
 
2023-02-04 5:01:36 PM  

IAmRight: LeBron has historically been pretty decent at building rosters. The problem is...the guys that LeBron values had their value increase because of what they do, which makes it so he can't collect them. AD was a good selection, he just breaks down all the time.


I've got to think that if he didn't want Russell Westbrook on his team he could have put the kibosh on that trade, that trade doesn't get made without the approval of LeBron James. If he legitimately has that juice (the kids still say that, right?), I don't see how he can be some basketball wizard when it comes to a roster.

All the microscopic shiat that dopes like me will never see which he knows will happen before it does but Westbrook is there? That just doesn't go well with how smart he is on the court, I have difficulty reconciling the two things.

It is just perception on my part so I fully acknowledge I could be talking out of my ass and taking the little bits I pick up and incorrectly running with them.

IAmRight: Doesn't he select the winning ASG roster every year because everyone else is worse at picking a roster?


Yeah but that isn't a real game even if guys do take it more seriously than in prior years.
 
2023-02-04 7:58:14 PM  

WoodyHayes: Everybody agrees that on the court, LeBron James is essentially all that you could want in a teammate, right? Talented out the ass and unselfish with his play to a fault, right?

Everybody agrees that off the court, James is essentially the last person you want deciding the roster, right?

Everybody agrees that on or off the court, I am awesome in anything I do.

It is weird to me that James could have such a universally recognized high "basketball IQ" but be awful at figuring out the pieces to have around him. It'd be different if he took eighty shots a game with no assists while never trying on defense, I'd expect that sort of player to not know how to build a roster relative to other players.

These are the thoughts of a guy who doesn't watch the NBA but has watched Hoosiers on at least double digit occasions including in the theater as a wee lad. I know what I'm talking about.


He has an on-court IQ. Not so much other things sans public relations.
 
2023-02-04 10:26:03 PM  
The Westbrook thing is literally one bad move over 20 seasons, people are really dumb about the "such a bad GM" thing.

Another thing is that as he ages, the young stars generally don't wanna go there because they don't think they'll get to be the Magic to LeBron's Kareem. So it not like he has his pick of who he wants on his team.
 
2023-02-05 12:56:54 AM  
[desperately trying to think of an "eleison" joke]
 
2023-02-05 8:53:15 AM  
Why would a team want to inject poison in themselves?
 
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