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1950 clicks; posted to Business » on 03 Feb 2023 at 12:40 PM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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Warthog [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 11:29:01 AM  
There's some plausible logic here.  The car has electrically controlled brakes for one, and if you cycle the code maybe those get released for a time.  Also, if you are reseting the accelerometers, they could come to treat your inclined state as level, such that when you move to level ground it thinks you are on a hill.

Or maybe it's just lawyers being the worst.
 
My Second Fark Account
2023-02-03 12:53:00 PM  
I guess they assume all i4 owners have a level garage and didn't think this safety measure would affect most people, let alone make it to an article.
 
ekdikeo4
2023-02-03 1:08:18 PM  

My Second Fark Account: I guess they assume all i4 owners have a level garage and didn't think this safety measure would affect most people, let alone make it to an article.


at some point, you're going to turn it off in a level place, and it'll update.
 
bingethinker [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 1:15:46 PM  
Looks like the BMW-haters are getting as rabid and illogical as the Apple-haters.
 
quo vadimus
2023-02-03 1:18:09 PM  
I don't get why people have made this story a "thing."

Would you change a tire on an incline?

Oh no! An inconvenience that is even less of an inconvenience than brushing my teeth in the morning! Where's my fainting couch!!!
 
Another Government Employee
2023-02-03 1:21:23 PM  
So, it won't work on my driveway, good to know.

/ Not that I would buy the overpriced money pit
 
mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 1:32:57 PM  

ekdikeo4: My Second Fark Account: I guess they assume all i4 owners have a level garage and didn't think this safety measure would affect most people, let alone make it to an article.

at some point, you're going to turn it off in a level place, and it'll update.


Find me a parking spot that is exactly level!
 
chitownmike
2023-02-03 1:38:07 PM  

bingethinker: Looks like the BMW-haters are getting as rabid and illogical as the Apple-haters.


Nobody hates Apple or BMW, we hate their users who constantly try to tell us how much better they are than the rest of us because they use obscure overpriced shiat
 
TWX
2023-02-03 1:41:24 PM  
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TWX
2023-02-03 1:42:51 PM  
As for why they did this, I expect that engineers identified a possibility, however remote, that the software could release the parking brake in the process of initializing.  Better to ensure that the vehicle is not going to roll easily than to suffer lawsuits for damage, injuries, or deaths.
 
Ivo Shandor [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 1:52:12 PM  

mrmopar5287: ekdikeo4: My Second Fark Account: I guess they assume all i4 owners have a level garage and didn't think this safety measure would affect most people, let alone make it to an article.

at some point, you're going to turn it off in a level place, and it'll update.

Find me a parking spot that is exactly level!


Exactly level? Maybe not.

Level within whatever range this sensor would accept as flat ground? No problem. I can see one outside my window right now.
 
Warthog [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 1:58:27 PM  

Another Government Employee: So, it won't work on my driveway, good to know.

/ Not that I would buy the overpriced money pit


Hey now, BMWs are not overpriced money pits.

They are money pits which deliver an appropriate amount of value for the price.

My money pit is 10 days old and I LOVE IT.

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Mokmo
2023-02-03 2:02:49 PM  
Computer might be doing a reset on some position/inclination sensor so it requires some flatness?
 
pheelix
2023-02-03 2:11:50 PM  

Mokmo: Computer might be doing a reset on some position/inclination sensor so it requires some flatness?


Recalibrating an accelerometer is what I'm thinking. Probably want the car on a flat surface while it self-tests on all the fancy handling stuff.
 
mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 2:16:52 PM  

TWX: As for why they did this, I expect that engineers identified a possibility, however remote, that the software could release the parking brake in the process of initializing.  Better to ensure that the vehicle is not going to roll easily than to suffer lawsuits for damage, injuries, or deaths.


Or, hear me out on this one... equip cars with manual parking brakes?
 
leviosaurus [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 2:37:28 PM  

Warthog: There's some plausible logic here.  The car has electrically controlled brakes for one, and if you cycle the code maybe those get released for a time.  Also, if you are reseting the accelerometers, they could come to treat your inclined state as level, such that when you move to level ground it thinks you are on a hill.

Or maybe it's just lawyers being the worst.


As a software guy, given the constraints that have already been mentioned in this thread as well as TFA, I'd recommend ensuring the car was on flat ground during updates. No lawyer involved in the decision.

Computers need to return to a baseline state after an update, which is why your computer needs to be rebooted after updating. The baseline for this car is flat ground. I know it's stupid, but you don't want the car's sensors miscalibrated. That could end up with things all crashy.
 
sinko swimo
2023-02-03 2:59:07 PM  

bingethinker: Looks like the BMW-haters are getting as rabid and illogical as the Apple-haters.


I dunno. Apple has severely over priced products. And it doesn't take a genius to go on eBay and source an item that has more features than any Apple product for a fraction of the price. I kind of understand why this makes a lot of peoples blood boil.
 
cyberspacedout
2023-02-03 3:58:09 PM  
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natazha [BareFark]
2023-02-03 4:41:41 PM  
Obviously Musk's fault and the Feds are opening another investigation into "Tesla's Killer Robots", also known as cars.
 
TWX
2023-02-03 7:06:32 PM  

mrmopar5287: TWX: As for why they did this, I expect that engineers identified a possibility, however remote, that the software could release the parking brake in the process of initializing.  Better to ensure that the vehicle is not going to roll easily than to suffer lawsuits for damage, injuries, or deaths.

Or, hear me out on this one... equip cars with manual parking brakes?


For what it's worth I don't entirely disagree, but with that said, if I set a center-console-mounted parking brake I've found my wife can't release it, and if she sets such then it doesn't always get set tightly enough.

Foot-set, hand-released brakes like were popular even into the early nineties don't have this problem, but are probably never going to make a return.
 
dbirchall [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 8:30:24 PM  

quo vadimus: Would you change a tire on an incline?


Ever gotten a flat while off-road?  Did you take the time to create a hard, flat, level surface nearby so you could change it under comfortably familiar conditions?
 
quo vadimus
2023-02-03 9:37:31 PM  

dbirchall: quo vadimus: Would you change a tire on an incline?

Ever gotten a flat while off-road?  Did you take the time to create a hard, flat, level surface nearby so you could change it under comfortably familiar conditions?


No, I haven't. So I'm that situation you just throw it up on one jack and change it just like normal? I honestly don't know, but it doesn't sound like an awesome proposition. Especially with the <5 inches of clearance on the bmw.

My point about it being the most minor of inconveniences not deserving of becoming a national outrage stands.
 
I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 9:58:30 PM  

chitownmike: bingethinker: Looks like the BMW-haters are getting as rabid and illogical as the Apple-haters.

Nobody hates Apple or BMW, we hate their users who constantly try to tell us how much better they are than the rest of us because they use obscure overpriced shiat


Who only exist in your mind.
 
Vespers
2023-02-03 11:47:42 PM  
And BMW didn't think to sell a $180 rfid equipped wheel chock set? Kinda disappointed, Beems.
 
AppleOptionEsc
2023-02-04 2:47:28 AM  

dbirchall: quo vadimus: Would you change a tire on an incline?

Ever gotten a flat while off-road?  Did you take the time to create a hard, flat, level surface nearby so you could change it under comfortably familiar conditions?


No, because if I felt I was going to kill myself, I'd call a tow.

Do you change your tire in the literal ditch. In the soft mud, sand and grass?
 
morg
2023-02-04 9:09:24 AM  
If my car goes on the internet I want to know where it's going. It's only 25 years old and impressionable.
 
ThighsofGlory
2023-02-04 12:17:01 PM  

bingethinker: Looks like the BMW-haters are getting as rabid and illogical as the Apple-haters.


Still more rational than the anti-muskers
 
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