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(Daily Mail)   Man put in charge of negotiating Britain's Brexit deal would like you to know that even though they got a crap deal, it wasn't his fault   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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Somacandra [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 12:14:26 PM  
Who knew one PM put up against twenty-something other PM's would come out with a raw deal?
 
Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-03 1:14:04 PM  
The secret is there was no way of getting a non-crap deal. You crapped on yourselves.
 
Mrtraveler01
2023-02-03 2:09:33 PM  
"We didn't Brexit hard enough!!!"
 
HerptheDerp
2023-02-03 2:15:22 PM  
I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.
 
Meatsim1
2023-02-03 2:25:14 PM  
Turns out the real enemy was in our midst the whole time!
 
ValisIV
2023-02-03 2:26:23 PM  

Mrtraveler01: "We didn't Brexit hard enough!!!"


Conservatives gonna conservative.  They cannot be wrong, they can only be wronged.
 
Paddy [OhFark]
2023-02-03 2:28:39 PM  

HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.


And you had a chance to correct your horrible decision with trump four years later. The UK has burned all bridges.
 
Erik_Emune
2023-02-03 2:30:20 PM  
Lord Buckethead was right all along. Quite something when the elected officials are worse at foreign policy analysis than a guy with a bucket on his head.
 
Paddy [OhFark]
2023-02-03 2:32:14 PM  
When I see Daily Fail articles about Brexit I usually expect the lowest of the lowest leaving their marks in the comments section. But wow, Ray, yes, look at the comments. It is hilarious. I guess there's not much backing at all among the broader British population. Too bad there's no way back in a very long time.
 
stevenboof [OhFark]
2023-02-03 2:33:51 PM  

HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.


Weren't we the first country that decided to Brexit?  Way before Canada, India, and Australia?
 
The Numbers
2023-02-03 2:34:01 PM  

HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.


And we only voted for Dubya twice. Yay us.
 
balial [BareFark]
2023-02-03 2:35:51 PM  
I love this notion that somehow Britain didn't shoot itself in the foot the second it put up the referendum. There seems to be this pervasive delusion that somehow they were going to use their glorious might and prowess to leave and be in a better place.

There was never going to be a good way to leave. Europe is stronger, and rightly wanted to use Britain as a warning to others talking about leaving. And it worked.

tl;dr, don't complain when you send someone to Brussels to fetch you a sh*t sandwich, and upon return your sandwich tastes like sh*t.
 
A Civil Nerd
2023-02-03 2:36:04 PM  
Well, that didn't work, let's try it again, with vigor!
Well, that didn't work, you didn't believe in it, we'll try it again, with more fervor!
Well, that didn't work, it's now your problem, we're too rich to be bothered by it now, tootles.
Oh, don't change it, it worked when we did it.
 
You'd turn it off when I was halfway across [BareFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 2:36:28 PM  

Somacandra: Who knew one PM put up against twenty-something other PM's would come out with a raw deal?


Oh fark no. Honestly the EU were absolute sweethearts who kept on trying to mitigate the coming shiatshow as best they could and I am so farking embarrassed by this situation which is entirely the British government's fault (although I believe many Leave voters still blame obdurate reality for failing to reshape itself to their whim).
 
grumpfuff
2023-02-03 2:43:36 PM  

Paddy: When I see Daily Fail articles about Brexit I usually expect the lowest of the lowest leaving their marks in the comments section. But wow, Ray, yes, look at the comments. It is hilarious. I guess there's not much backing at all among the broader British population. Too bad there's no way back in a very long time.


I'm not going anywhere near the Daily Fail, but of the half that voted for Brexit, about 2/3s say it went too far and 1/3 say it didn't go far enough, iirc.
 
special20 [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 2:44:20 PM  

Erik_Emune: Lord Buckethead was right all along. Quite something when the elected officials are worse at foreign policy analysis than a guy with a bucket on his head.


Well, maybe he was but we gotta ask Count Binface now, don't we?
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ALL HAIL COUNT BINFACE!
 
A Civil Nerd
2023-02-03 2:44:47 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Somacandra: Who knew one PM put up against twenty-something other PM's would come out with a raw deal?

Oh fark no. Honestly the EU were absolute sweethearts who kept on trying to mitigate the coming shiatshow as best they could and I am so farking embarrassed by this situation which is entirely the British government's fault (although I believe many Leave voters still blame obdurate reality for failing to reshape itself to their whim).


As noted, with PowerPoint!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZ0xISi40E
 
whither_apophis [TotalFark]
2023-02-03 2:50:37 PM  

Erik_Emune: Lord Buckethead was right all along. Quite something when the elected officials are worse at foreign policy analysis than a guy with a bucket on his head.


But did he go to Eton and Cambridge? No, so.there.
 
Zenith
2023-02-03 3:14:54 PM  

whither_apophis: Erik_Emune: Lord Buckethead was right all along. Quite something when the elected officials are worse at foreign policy analysis than a guy with a bucket on his head.

But did he go to Eton and Cambridge? No, so.there.


Cos of money
That's the only reason he got in
He's quite intellectually mediocre
and a fat lying coont
 
COMALite J
2023-02-03 3:24:20 PM  

The Numbers: HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.

And we only voted for Dubya twice. Yay us.

stevenboof: Weren't we the first country that decided to Brexit? Way before Canada, India, and Australia?

Paddy: And you had a chance to correct your horrible decision with trump four years later. The UK has burned all bridges.

We have a serious movement among the far-right pushing for UNexit (You Nex[t]-it). Heaven help us if they succeed. Not to mention NATOexit.
 
Arkanaut
2023-02-03 3:32:09 PM  

HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.


It's a tough call. The Brits have NHS, a functioning welfare system, lower-cost colleges, and gun control. But they might also be running out of food?
 
Murkanen
2023-02-03 3:39:55 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The secret is there was no way of getting a non-crap deal. You crapped on yourselves.


The way to avoid a shiatshow was to withdraw Article 50.  Conservatives dug their heels in and decided to sink the UK economy instead.
 
Gpzjock
2023-02-03 3:42:56 PM  

Arkanaut: HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.

It's a tough call. The Brits have NHS, a functioning welfare system, lower-cost colleges, and gun control. But they might also be running out of food?


To be fair, the NHS is on its knees and struggling to replace the European staff it was used to having available previously. The welfare system's function is to keep people at subsistence level while giving them no real help to improve on that. Our higher education colleges now cost a hell of a lot to use compared to previous generations. Food isn't running out but the price of even basic items has increased visibly in the last 2 years.
Gun control, yeah that is a bonus. That is about it.
 
You'd turn it off when I was halfway across [BareFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 4:03:13 PM  

Gpzjock: Arkanaut: HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.

It's a tough call. The Brits have NHS, a functioning welfare system, lower-cost colleges, and gun control. But they might also be running out of food?

To be fair, the NHS is on its knees and struggling to replace the European staff it was used to having available previously. The welfare system's function is to keep people at subsistence level while giving them no real help to improve on that. Our higher education colleges now cost a hell of a lot to use compared to previous generations. Food isn't running out but the price of even basic items has increased visibly in the last 2 years.
Gun control, yeah that is a bonus. That is about it.


Don't forget about all the sovereignty. So much I honestly don't know what to do with it all.
 
Xai
2023-02-03 4:08:16 PM  
Notice how all the brexiteers have crawled into the woodwork now we know what a disaster it is?

The worst ones, like farage go around complaining about problems like the migrants coming in boats, a direct result of brexit.
 
Gpzjock
2023-02-03 4:12:17 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Gpzjock: Arkanaut: HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.

It's a tough call. The Brits have NHS, a functioning welfare system, lower-cost colleges, and gun control. But they might also be running out of food?

To be fair, the NHS is on its knees and struggling to replace the European staff it was used to having available previously. The welfare system's function is to keep people at subsistence level while giving them no real help to improve on that. Our higher education colleges now cost a hell of a lot to use compared to previous generations. Food isn't running out but the price of even basic items has increased visibly in the last 2 years.
Gun control, yeah that is a bonus. That is about it.

Don't forget about all the sovereignty. So much I honestly don't know what to do with it all.


We even broke that, longest reigning monarch dead. Meanwhile the only opportunity to inject some fresh genetics into the hierarchy has ended up pretty badly too. Ho hum.
 
Publikwerks
2023-02-03 4:16:42 PM  
I mean, really crap. I think it's partly because they sympathised with the European view and assumed that was reciprocated. It wasn't.

No, it's called leverage. You had none.
 
Paddy [OhFark]
2023-02-03 4:37:14 PM  

grumpfuff: Paddy: When I see Daily Fail articles about Brexit I usually expect the lowest of the lowest leaving their marks in the comments section. But wow, Ray, yes, look at the comments. It is hilarious. I guess there's not much backing at all among the broader British population. Too bad there's no way back in a very long time.

I'm not going anywhere near the Daily Fail, but of the half that voted for Brexit, about 2/3s say it went too far and 1/3 say it didn't go far enough, iirc.


That's their modus operandi. Brexit cannot fail, it can only be failed.
 
PunGent
2023-02-03 4:42:29 PM  
<scrolls>

Our resident Brexit cheerleader MIA from another Brexit thread?

Shocking :)
 
Erik_Emune
2023-02-03 5:11:43 PM  

special20: Erik_Emune: Lord Buckethead was right all along. Quite something when the elected officials are worse at foreign policy analysis than a guy with a bucket on his head.

Well, maybe he was but we gotta ask Count Binface now, don't we?
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ALL HAIL COUNT BINFACE!


Which one is Count Binface?
 
Zenith
2023-02-03 5:27:41 PM  

Erik_Emune: special20: Erik_Emune: Lord Buckethead was right all along. Quite something when the elected officials are worse at foreign policy analysis than a guy with a bucket on his head.

Well, maybe he was but we gotta ask Count Binface now, don't we?
[images.squarespace-cdn.com image 486x435]
ALL HAIL COUNT BINFACE!

Which one is Count Binface?


He's the one that doesn't look like the bleached bloated cadaver of a Womble
 
Drank_the_40_water
2023-02-03 5:36:51 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The secret is there was no way of getting a non-crap deal. You crapped on yourselves.


I had not realized it was possible to have negative leverage until brexit.

I *think* TFG could have borked a negotiation worse, but I am not certain.
 
Fabric_Man [BareFark]
2023-02-03 7:07:15 PM  

Drank_the_40_water: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The secret is there was no way of getting a non-crap deal. You crapped on yourselves.

I had not realized it was possible to have negative leverage until brexit.

I *think* TFG could have borked a negotiation worse, but I am not certain.


You have to BELIEVE, deep down, that Boss Tweet could have traded away London Bridge, 50 years' fishing rights, the entire banking sector, and the Falklands in exchange for a slot as a Eurovision judge
 
ukexpat
2023-02-03 8:06:13 PM  
I listened to Davis being interviewed on a podcast recently (the News Agents, I think) - an absolute numbskull.
 
Excelsior
2023-02-03 8:22:52 PM  
It's almost as if having multiple mutually exclusive demands and red lines that can't be crossed while demanding the moon and offering nothing in return sets you up for failure.

Who could have known?!
 
I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-03 8:35:49 PM  

HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.


No.

We voted for Trump.

Brexit is far more sensible than that.
 
2fardownthread [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-03 8:50:11 PM  
Big big picture is that trade agreements are truly astounding human achievements. They represent institutionalization of thousands of smaller agreements and transactions.

And it is almost always the case that any one, and perhaps even ALL of those transactions look dumb, but in the aggregate, they make "everyone better off" over some time horizon. People just can't believe this, just like they can't believe the moon landings.

Liberal, conservative... it doesn't matter. Anyone can pick apart a trade agreement and show that it is "bad." That is trivial. The US has been by far, and probably by an order of magnitude, the greatest beneficiary of NAFTA, but everyone can find a reason to hate it.

What is happening with Brexit is that all of those inefficiencies are showing up. All of the small problems that had been resolved some other way are popping up at once and forever. Maybe Brexit solved a few specific gripes, but all of the problems that EU membership had solved are flooding over the UK. The UK is also figuring out that it still has responsibilities to the EU (NATO) that it won't be rewarded or compensated for.

How does it end? I guess the UK adapts. And all of those adaptive measures will have to be scrapped if the UK wants to re-enter the EU. Or it limps along as another of the faded empires of the early 21st century. A junior partner in its commonwealth?
 
Excelsior
2023-02-03 9:00:13 PM  
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Nicki Minaj's Cousin's Friend's Swollen Testicle
2023-02-04 2:42:11 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: HerptheDerp: I just want to point out, the US with all it's faults, crap healthcare, repressed wages, mass shootings, dumb Southern Border Wall, drug issues, corrupt police forces, rising terrorist orgs, we still have one thing going for us. We never voted for Brexit.

No.

We voted for Trump.

Brexit is far more sensible than that.


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Zenith
2023-02-04 4:12:53 AM  

ukexpat: I listened to Davis being interviewed on a podcast recently (the News Agents, I think) - an absolute numbskull.


Once described by some one unfortunate enough to work with 'as thick as mince and lazy as a toad'
 
PartTimeBuddha [OhFark]
2023-02-04 5:13:43 AM  

Zenith: ukexpat: I listened to Davis being interviewed on a podcast recently (the News Agents, I think) - an absolute numbskull.

Once described by some one unfortunate enough to work with 'as thick as mince and lazy as a toad'


You can learn something new every day.

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