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(The Bulwark)   Despite the headlines, Republicans are tiptoeing around Trump or running campaigns that exist in a fantasyland where Dubya had a successful 2nd term   (morningshots.thebulwark.com) divider line
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2023-02-03 9:25:54 AM  
I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.
 
2023-02-03 9:41:41 AM  
Republicans lost the popular vote for president in 5 of the last 6 elections, yet managed to capture the Whitehouse 3 times. That has allowed them to stack the Supreme Court and the Federal Courts, and stack countless Federal agencies with loyalists. They have doubled down on gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement, and used that to seize control of States where they routinely lose the popular vote, and then use those State legislatures to limit the power of democratically elected governors who oppose them.

They have used the power they seized to push extremely unpopular agendas, and they know they aren't winning the popular vote in the upcoming presidential election - or even the electoral college. They are doubling down on the 'stolen election' lie because it gives them cover for their final plan, discarding the vote, ignoring the will of the people, and seizing total power in America.

It doesn't matter who Republicans run for the president in 24, they plan on making sure he wins and is the Final president.
 
2023-02-03 11:22:09 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


There is no bottom.
 
2023-02-03 11:23:00 AM  
This will not be the end of Trump, says increasingly apathetic man
 
2023-02-03 11:23:26 AM  
Subby is implying that Baby Bush had a successful first term.
 
2023-02-03 11:24:28 AM  
Actually I have it on good authority that Obama was "Dubya's 2nd Term."

Hurr durr durr derpa derpa derpa dooo.
 
2023-02-03 11:24:32 AM  
09/11/2001 happened under Baby Bush.
 
2023-02-03 11:27:09 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


Don't let them do that. He dropped the ball on the biggest terrorist attack in our nation's history, used it as an excuse to start two wars with countries that had little or nothing to do with it, shiat all over our civil rights and got the ball really rolling on our current surveillance/police state, and in a final attempt to stay in power released a dangerous amount of our nation's oil reserve to try to buy votes with "see cheap gas all good". That's not even beginning to scratch the surface.
 
2023-02-03 11:28:51 AM  

Private_Citizen: Republicans lost the popular vote for president in 5 of the last 6 elections, yet managed to capture the Whitehouse 3 times. That has allowed them to stack the Supreme Court and the Federal Courts, and stack countless Federal agencies with loyalists. They have doubled down on gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement, and used that to seize control of States where they routinely lose the popular vote, and then use those State legislatures to limit the power of democratically elected governors who oppose them.

They have used the power they seized to push extremely unpopular agendas, and they know they aren't winning the popular vote in the upcoming presidential election - or even the electoral college. They are doubling down on the 'stolen election' lie because it gives them cover for their final plan, discarding the vote, ignoring the will of the people, and seizing total power in America.

It doesn't matter who Republicans run for the president in 24, they plan on making sure he wins and is the Final president.


I dislike having to like this post because it seems so fatalistic but with the GOP, the empirical evidence is there that you are correct. It is a hard notion to chew on but it's even harder to believe that the GOP stops doubling down and willfully stops trying to gain dominance over this country.
 
2023-02-03 11:29:46 AM  

2wolves: 09/11/2001 happened under Baby Bush.


He got re-elected didn't he?
 
2023-02-03 11:30:13 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

Don't let them do that. He dropped the ball on the biggest terrorist attack in our nation's history, used it as an excuse to start two wars with countries that had little or nothing to do with it, shiat all over our civil rights and got the ball really rolling on our current surveillance/police state, and in a final attempt to stay in power released a dangerous amount of our nation's oil reserve to try to buy votes with "see cheap gas all good". That's not even beginning to scratch the surface.


Yep. If it wasn't for Trump's horrendous pandemic response that led to thousands of deaths, I'd say W was a worse President, despite having a "nicer" personality than Trump.
 
2023-02-03 11:31:10 AM  

whidbey: 2wolves: 09/11/2001 happened under Baby Bush.

He got re-elected didn't he?


Getting re-elected implies he got elected in the first place.
 
2023-02-03 11:31:22 AM  

rudemix: Private_Citizen: Republicans lost the popular vote for president in 5 of the last 6 elections, yet managed to capture the Whitehouse 3 times. That has allowed them to stack the Supreme Court and the Federal Courts, and stack countless Federal agencies with loyalists. They have doubled down on gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement, and used that to seize control of States where they routinely lose the popular vote, and then use those State legislatures to limit the power of democratically elected governors who oppose them.

They have used the power they seized to push extremely unpopular agendas, and they know they aren't winning the popular vote in the upcoming presidential election - or even the electoral college. They are doubling down on the 'stolen election' lie because it gives them cover for their final plan, discarding the vote, ignoring the will of the people, and seizing total power in America.

It doesn't matter who Republicans run for the president in 24, they plan on making sure he wins and is the Final president.

I dislike having to like this post because it seems so fatalistic but with the GOP, the empirical evidence is there that you are correct. It is a hard notion to chew on but it's even harder to believe that the GOP stops doubling down and willfully stops trying to gain dominance over this country.


Fortunately we still have the option of not electing them to positions where they can carry out their plan
 
2023-02-03 11:31:27 AM  

Private_Citizen: Republicans lost the popular vote for president in 5 of the last 6 elections, yet managed to capture the Whitehouse 3 times. That has allowed them to stack the Supreme Court and the Federal Courts, and stack countless Federal agencies with loyalists. They have doubled down on gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement, and used that to seize control of States where they routinely lose the popular vote, and then use those State legislatures to limit the power of democratically elected governors who oppose them.

They have used the power they seized to push extremely unpopular agendas, and they know they aren't winning the popular vote in the upcoming presidential election - or even the electoral college. They are doubling down on the 'stolen election' lie because it gives them cover for their final plan, discarding the vote, ignoring the will of the people, and seizing total power in America.

It doesn't matter who Republicans run for the president in 24, they plan on making sure he wins and is the Final president.


You're not supposed to drink the bong water.
 
2023-02-03 11:32:00 AM  

whidbey: Actually I have it on good authority that Obama was "Dubya's 2nd Term."

Hurr durr durr derpa derpa derpa dooo.


3rd, maybe.  I spent a lot of the 2000s blackout drunk but I seem to remember W getting reelected.
 
2023-02-03 11:32:32 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


TFG does not make Bush Jr OK.

Bush Jr took the greatest economy in history and flushed it down the toilet for some vanity wars to try to prove he was better than his dad. Millions of people died. Many were innocent civilians. Jr also eroded a LOT of our freedoms, and paved the way for TFG by elevating stupidity over thoughtful process. Remember how the Republicans would respond to any criticism with "Why do you hate America"? Jr begat TFG.
 
2023-02-03 11:33:46 AM  
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2023-02-03 11:34:40 AM  

hobnail: whidbey: Actually I have it on good authority that Obama was "Dubya's 2nd Term."

Hurr durr durr derpa derpa derpa dooo.

3rd, maybe.  I spent a lot of the 2000s blackout drunk but I seem to remember W getting reelected.


You get the point.
 
2023-02-03 11:35:05 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


Same here but 1000 x 0 is still 0.
 
2023-02-03 11:35:08 AM  
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2023-02-03 11:36:48 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Yep. If it wasn't for Trump's horrendous pandemic response that led to thousands of deaths, I'd say W was a worse President, despite having a "nicer" personality than Trump.


Not even close.  The only President that you could have argued was worse than Trump was Andrew Johnson, but even that went out the window on 1/6.
 
2023-02-03 11:37:37 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

Don't let them do that. He dropped the ball on the biggest terrorist attack in our nation's history, used it as an excuse to start two wars with countries that had little or nothing to do with it, shiat all over our civil rights and got the ball really rolling on our current surveillance/police state, and in a final attempt to stay in power released a dangerous amount of our nation's oil reserve to try to buy votes with "see cheap gas all good". That's not even beginning to scratch the surface.


I trust the process so I know Garland is ready to indict W despite your eeyoredom
 
2023-02-03 11:38:20 AM  

2wolves: 09/11/2001 happened under Baby Bush.


Pepperidge Farms remembers seeing MAGA nuts wearing shirts that implied that 9/11 was in 2011.
 
2023-02-03 11:44:57 AM  

BMFPitt: Tyrone Slothrop: Yep. If it wasn't for Trump's horrendous pandemic response that led to thousands of deaths, I'd say W was a worse President, despite having a "nicer" personality than Trump.

Not even close.  The only President that you could have argued was worse than Trump was Andrew Johnson, but even that went out the window on 1/6.


Buchanan. Until Jan 6th, I would say he was worse than TFG. Look him up, it's amazing how incompetent he was. He wasn't nearly as stupid as TFG, but he still managed to botch literally everything he touched.

If you think Biden having to take over the nation after Jan 6th was bad, look at what Buchanan handed Lincoln.
 
2023-02-03 11:45:04 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

Don't let them do that. He dropped the ball on the biggest terrorist attack in our nation's history, used it as an excuse to start two wars with countries that had little or nothing to do with it, shiat all over our civil rights and got the ball really rolling on our current surveillance/police state, and in a final attempt to stay in power released a dangerous amount of our nation's oil reserve to try to buy votes with "see cheap gas all good". That's not even beginning to scratch the surface.


Yeah, let's not retroactively salvage the GOP's continuing race to the bottom.  Dubya sucked so hard that they tried numerous times during the Obama Administration that all failed.  There's a reason he hasn't done anything besides sit in a room and paint for over a decade, and that's because the GOP figured out that salvaging is something to be outsourced to losers like Bill O'Reilly who no longer have a purpose shoveling the shiat in primetime yet are still on the payroll.

Let's also stop trying to save the Republican Party.  There's nothing worthwhile in it.  Best to let the Democrats have the reigns for a decade or less and have some other party form out of that.  America would do better with a two-party system with liberals on one side and progressives on the other than dealing with trying to salvage the old, beatdown Republican racismmobile.
 
2023-02-03 11:47:17 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

Don't let them do that. He dropped the ball on the biggest terrorist attack in our nation's history, used it as an excuse to start two wars with countries that had little or nothing to do with it, shiat all over our civil rights and got the ball really rolling on our current surveillance/police state, and in a final attempt to stay in power released a dangerous amount of our nation's oil reserve to try to buy votes with "see cheap gas all good". That's not even beginning to scratch the surface.

Yeah, let's not retroactively salvage the GOP's continuing race to the bottom.  Dubya sucked so hard that they tried numerous times during the Obama Administration that all failed.  There's a reason he hasn't done anything besides sit in a room and paint for over a decade, and that's because the GOP figured out that salvaging is something to be outsourced to losers like Bill O'Reilly who no longer have a purpose shoveling the shiat in primetime yet are still on the payroll.

Let's also stop trying to save the Republican Party.  There's nothing worthwhile in it.  Best to let the Democrats have the reigns for a decade or less and have some other party form out of that.  America would do better with a two-party system with liberals on one side and progressives on the other than dealing with trying to salvage the old, beatdown Republican racismmobile.


How dumb was Bush Jr?

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, the George W. Bush administration flooded the conquered country with so much cash to pay for reconstruction and other projects in the first year that a new unit of measurement was born.
Pentagon officials determined that one giant C-130 Hercules cargo plane could carry $2.4 billion in shrink-wrapped bricks of $100 bills. They sent an initial full planeload of cash, followed by 20 other flights to Iraq by May 2004 in a $12-billion haul that U.S. officials believe to be the biggest international cash airlift of all time. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2011-jun-13-la-fg-missing-billions-20110613-story.html

/Most of it was stolen
//Gee, where did ISIS find their funding? It's such a mystery...
 
2023-02-03 11:47:53 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


IDK Trump didn't invade a foreign country to prove his dick  was bigger than Fred Trump's dick

Woukd W have done a better job with Covid?
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Quit giving W the benefit of a doubt just because Trump was bad
 
2023-02-03 11:52:23 AM  

spongeboob: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

IDK Trump didn't invade a foreign country to prove his dick  was bigger than Fred Trump's dick

Woukd W have done a better job with Covid?
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Quit giving W the benefit of a doubt just because Trump was bad


Eh... from my posts it's obvious I hated Bush Jr, but I'll give him credit for handling the 2002 SARS epidemic well. When he handed the nation off to Obama, he told him "This country isn't ready for a pandemic." All the pandemic preparedness that Obama put in place (which TFG later dismantled) was at the suggestion of Bush Jr.

That's how bad TFG was. Even a horrible idiot like Bush Jr could handle a pandemic better than TFG.

/That doesn't absolve Bush Jr at ALL. Just one thing he didn't botch up
//I still blame Jr for paving the road for TFG
 
2023-02-03 11:52:53 AM  

whidbey: 2wolves: 09/11/2001 happened under Baby Bush.

He got re-elected didn't he?


You were alive then weren't you?

The Media went full W is so Presidential and We Have to be United nd Bush barely won in 2004 and there are those that argue it was only voting irregularities in Ohio that allowed him to win
In 2004 those that supported the invasion of Iraq(because 9/11) wouldn't/couldn't admit they were wrong
 
2023-02-03 11:55:10 AM  

spongeboob: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

IDK Trump didn't invade a foreign country to prove his dick  was bigger than Fred Trump's dick

Woukd W have done a better job with Covid?
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Who the fark Knows

Quit giving W the benefit of a doubt just because Trump was bad


One of the few useful things dubya did was actually put together a response plan for a major pandemic so ok that count i think we can safely say that dubya would almost certainly have handled it better than trump
 
2023-02-03 11:56:14 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

Don't let them do that. He dropped the ball on the biggest terrorist attack in our nation's history, used it as an excuse to start two wars with countries that had little or nothing to do with it, shiat all over our civil rights and got the ball really rolling on our current surveillance/police state, and in a final attempt to stay in power released a dangerous amount of our nation's oil reserve to try to buy votes with "see cheap gas all good". That's not even beginning to scratch the surface.

Yep. If it wasn't for Trump's horrendous pandemic response that led to thousands of deaths, I'd say W was a worse President, despite having a "nicer" personality than Trump.


You're doing a heck of a job Brownie
Maybe W could have killed a bunch of Americans if he had Covid instead of Katrina

As for corruption didn't Mama Bush donate money for Katrina relief, but she said the money could only be used to buy computers from Neil Bush?
 
2023-02-03 11:56:39 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


There is no Trump administration without George W. Bush's administration.

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https://jacobin.com/2023/02/war-on-terror-bush-trump-911-islamophobia/
 
2023-02-03 11:56:58 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


W. Bush is a Marvel Celestial-level intelligence by comparison.

The sad part is the last administration was a litmus test.  A theory which applied destructive testing to see how much the GOP could get away with.  Even with an obscene amount of misconduct, business ethics and other shady practices, the man triggered a mob to lay siege to the Capitol and he's gotten away with it.  In another year when election activities open up, I fear he'll still be pleading the 5th and stalling the judicial process.

If TFG manages to squeeze his way through THIS level of high crime, you can nail the coffin shut on the USA idea of democracy.  Because after that there will eventually be someone just as evil but SMART.
 
2023-02-03 11:57:32 AM  

spongeboob: whidbey: 2wolves: 09/11/2001 happened under Baby Bush.

He got re-elected didn't he?

You were alive then weren't you?

The Media went full W is so Presidential and We Have to be United nd Bush barely won in 2004 and there are those that argue it was only voting irregularities in Ohio that allowed him to win
In 2004 those that supported the invasion of Iraq(because 9/11) wouldn't/couldn't admit they were wrong


Voted for Kerry.   And I was clearly being sarcastic.  For all the hatred of Bush he stayed in power, irregularities or not.   The country ultimately wanted that bullshiat to continue.
 
2023-02-03 11:58:57 AM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


Cancer has increased my opinion of herpes 1000 fold - by comparison.
 
2023-02-03 11:59:25 AM  

leviosaurus: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

TFG does not make Bush Jr OK.

Bush Jr took the greatest economy in history and flushed it down the toilet for some vanity wars to try to prove he was better than his dad. Millions of people died. Many were innocent civilians. Jr also eroded a LOT of our freedoms, and paved the way for TFG by elevating stupidity over thoughtful process. Remember how the Republicans would respond to any criticism with "Why do you hate America"? Jr begat TFG.


He also took a federal budget that was possible to pay off the federal debt(not deficit but the federal debt) and enacted tax cuts that caused the deficit and debt to sky rocket
 
2023-02-03 12:05:21 PM  

Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.


Say what you will about W, dude could duck a shoe.
 
2023-02-03 12:05:51 PM  

leviosaurus: Buchanan. Until Jan 6th, I would say he was worse than TFG. Look him up, it's amazing how incompetent he was. He wasn't nearly as stupid as TFG, but he still managed to botch literally everything he touched.

If you think Biden having to take over the nation after Jan 6th was bad, look at what Buchanan handed Lincoln.


He may have rivaled W for incompetence, but nobody can hold a candle to Trump on that front.  At least he was trying to help.

Johnson openly supported massacres of black people in the south attempting to vote.
 
2023-02-03 12:07:02 PM  

Private_Citizen: Republicans lost the popular vote for president in 5 of the last 6 elections, yet managed to capture the Whitehouse 3 times.


And yet when the Dems are back in power in all three branches, they haven't made "fixing/removing the EC" a priority.

I daresay the next "chosen by the EC but not popular vote" Repub prez.will take office in 2024.
 
2023-02-03 12:07:14 PM  
Remember how W. wanted to private Social Security and allow people to invest in the stock market immediately prior to the Great Recession, and was only foiled in that endeavor because US soldiers were coming home from overseas in flag-draped boxes?
 
2023-02-03 12:07:21 PM  

spongeboob: Quit giving W the benefit of a doubt just because Trump was bad


Nobody is doing that.  Some are just getting a sense of scale.
 
2023-02-03 12:08:05 PM  

sniderman: Private_Citizen: Republicans lost the popular vote for president in 5 of the last 6 elections, yet managed to capture the Whitehouse 3 times.

And yet when the Dems are back in power in all three branches, they haven't made "fixing/removing the EC" a priority.

I daresay the next "chosen by the EC but not popular vote" Repub prez.will take office in 2024.


Yeah, that's because we haven't ever given them sufficient power to actually do that.
 
2023-02-03 12:09:18 PM  

sniderman: Private_Citizen: Republicans lost the popular vote for president in 5 of the last 6 elections, yet managed to capture the Whitehouse 3 times.

And yet when the Dems are back in power in all three branches, they haven't made "fixing/removing the EC" a priority.

I daresay the next "chosen by the EC but not popular vote" Repub prez.will take office in 2024.


Of course you would.  You're a defeatist.

Oh shiat I went there.
 
2023-02-03 12:17:58 PM  

whidbey: 2wolves: 09/11/2001 happened under Baby Bush.

He got re-elected didn't he?


Yes, BECAUSE of 9/11, not in spite of it.
 
2023-02-03 12:30:31 PM  
"There is an old quote that has been attributed to Lee Atwater: 'When your enemy is in the process of drowning, throw him a brick,'"

I..like this quote.

Much more proactive than the traditional " sit back and do nothing "
 
2023-02-03 12:55:46 PM  

BMFPitt: leviosaurus: Buchanan. Until Jan 6th, I would say he was worse than TFG. Look him up, it's amazing how incompetent he was. He wasn't nearly as stupid as TFG, but he still managed to botch literally everything he touched.

If you think Biden having to take over the nation after Jan 6th was bad, look at what Buchanan handed Lincoln.

He may have rivaled W for incompetence, but nobody can hold a candle to Trump on that front.  At least he was trying to help.

Johnson openly supported massacres of black people in the south attempting to vote.


If you're talking about sheer awfulness, it's hard to beat Jackson and the Trail of Tears. I've heard Jackson described as "The best and the worst of America in one package".
 
2023-02-03 1:16:23 PM  

leviosaurus: BMFPitt: leviosaurus: Buchanan. Until Jan 6th, I would say he was worse than TFG. Look him up, it's amazing how incompetent he was. He wasn't nearly as stupid as TFG, but he still managed to botch literally everything he touched.

If you think Biden having to take over the nation after Jan 6th was bad, look at what Buchanan handed Lincoln.

He may have rivaled W for incompetence, but nobody can hold a candle to Trump on that front.  At least he was trying to help.

Johnson openly supported massacres of black people in the south attempting to vote.

If you're talking about sheer awfulness, it's hard to beat Jackson and the Trail of Tears. I've heard Jackson described as "The best and the worst of America in one package".


On the one hand Jackson wanted to make the common man have a say in government or the other hand he only wanted the White man to have a say
 
2023-02-03 2:50:00 PM  

leviosaurus: If you're talking about sheer awfulness, it's hard to beat Jackson and the Trail of Tears. I've heard Jackson described as "The best and the worst of America in one package".


He's definitely a contender.  Depends how much you grade on a historical curve.
 
2023-02-03 3:03:05 PM  

emersonbiggins: Somaticasual: I will say -
Trump has increased my opinion of Bush Jr. 1000 fold - by comparison.

There is no bottom.


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