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Confabulat [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:25:07 PM  
I wasn't really interested in a Frasier reboot but if they make it a Cheers reboot I'm totally in. I was a big Cheers nerd back in the day and any time James Burrows directed it was a good one. And hey, what is Ted Danson doing these days?
 
Eightballjacket [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:26:22 PM  
I watched the new Rosanne and the new Murphy Brown.  They were just horrible.  It seemed like all the actors forgot how to read lines and spoke so woodenly and slow.

I have low expectations for this one
 
stuhayes2010
2023-02-02 3:27:46 PM  
So, the Frasier timeline is works in Boston, moves to Seatle and works there, presumably retires and moves back across the country?
 
Confabulat [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:27:51 PM  

Eightballjacket: I watched the new Rosanne and the new Murphy Brown.  They were just horrible.  It seemed like all the actors forgot how to read lines and spoke so woodenly and slow.

I have low expectations for this one


The new Night Court is as good as the old one and That 90s Show isn't much worse than the original.

We're talking sitcoms here.
 
NuclearPenguins [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:33:00 PM  

Confabulat: The new Night Court is as good as the old one


This is a lie and you know it.

Harry Anderson died way too young. :(
 
gilgigamesh
2023-02-02 3:35:15 PM  
There is a certain full circle logic to this idea.

I'm not going to watch it, mind you, because I don't care enough about the character to bother.  But it isn't a bad idea.
 
Confabulat [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:39:36 PM  
Cliff Clavin was in Poker Face just the other day and he was a lot of fun. I can't imagine Norm is doing much and no one ever heard from Woody again I hear
 
wouldestous
2023-02-02 3:40:18 PM  
rebooting old sitcoms is a stupid idea and you should all feel bad for pretending it isnt.


Confabulat: Eightballjacket: ...

The new Night Court is as good as the old one ...


found john larroquettes fark handle
 
Confabulat [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:41:44 PM  

wouldestous: rebooting old sitcoms is a stupid idea and you should all feel bad for pretending it isnt.


Confabulat: Eightballjacket: ...

The new Night Court is as good as the old one ...

found john larroquettes fark handle


Did you ever WATCH the old Night Court? It wasn't exactly Cheers.
 
Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:42:18 PM  

Confabulat: . And hey, what is Ted Danson doing these days?


Getting paid way too much.
 
ekdikeo4
2023-02-02 3:43:00 PM  

Confabulat: Eightballjacket: I watched the new Rosanne and the new Murphy Brown.  They were just horrible.  It seemed like all the actors forgot how to read lines and spoke so woodenly and slow.

I have low expectations for this one

The new Night Court is as good as the old one and That 90s Show isn't much worse than the original.

We're talking sitcoms here.


The new Night Court makes me laugh, and that's all it needs to do.

I was enjoying the new Quantum Leap, although i'm quite behind on it right now.

I'll check out the new Frasier.  I wasn't a huge fan, but if I happened to catch it, it was usually a fun watch.
 
ekdikeo4
2023-02-02 3:43:54 PM  

stuhayes2010: So, the Frasier timeline is works in Boston, moves to Seatle and works there, presumably retires and moves back across the country?


if this means Cheers cast cameos, i'm definitely in.
 
Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:45:22 PM  
I like how the set design on the new Night Court is exactly the same as the old show.  Other than that, an aging Dan Fielding is funny, but Melissa Rauch hasn't gotten a handle on being Harry's daughter yet.
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-02-02 3:45:52 PM  

Confabulat: I wasn't really interested in a Frasier reboot but if they make it a Cheers reboot I'm totally in. I was a big Cheers nerd back in the day and any time James Burrows directed it was a good one. And hey, what is Ted Danson doing these days?


He did Good Place, which was good, and then Mr Mayor, which was not.

Cheers would need some serious updating to work today, but I'd give it a go.  Especially if they brought Danson back as Sam to link to the old show.

But Ratzenberger is apparently a member of the MAGA crowd, so much like Grammer I just don't want to ever hear from him again.  Once you know someone is garbage, it taints their performances.
 
Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:49:12 PM  

Unsung_Hero: But Ratzenberger is apparently a member of the MAGA crowd, so much like Grammer I just don't want to ever hear from him again.  Once you know someone is garbage, it taints their performances.


Grammar is hilarious though.  He's a master of comedic line delivery, I don't give a crap about his politics. Ratzenberger is a dork, just like Cliff Calvin was.
 
Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 3:49:29 PM  
*Clavin
 
dallylamma
2023-02-02 3:52:22 PM  
How young is Grammer's current wife?
 
Jim_Tressel's_O-Face
2023-02-02 3:54:12 PM  
Sometimes you do, but the Cheers at Hopkins closed up years ago.
 
Jim_Tressel's_O-Face
2023-02-02 3:57:44 PM  

Jake Havechek: Unsung_Hero: But Ratzenberger is apparently a member of the MAGA crowd, so much like Grammer I just don't want to ever hear from him again.  Once you know someone is garbage, it taints their performances.

Grammar is hilarious though.  He's a master of comedic line delivery, I don't give a crap about his politics. Ratzenberger is a dork, just like Cliff Calvin was.


Grammer seems to have been staving off the conservative brain-eater. (For a counterexample, see James Woods.)   Ratzenberger has made a cause of putting more Americans in blue collar jobs, so I'll give him a pass if he thought Trump could actually deliver on that.  He's never come across as much of a schmuck as Rowe has.
 
dylanthomas
2023-02-02 4:11:35 PM  
2023 'Cheers' would be 8-10 drunks staring at their phones.
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-02-02 4:12:40 PM  

dylanthomas: 2023 'Cheers' would be 8-10 drunks staring at their phones.


The original show wasn't portraying any kind of bar I've ever been in either.
 
johnny queso
2023-02-02 4:22:41 PM  

dylanthomas: 2023 'Cheers' would be 8-10 drunks staring at their phones.


*looks left*
*looks right*
*sets phone down discreetly*
 
Kid the Universe
2023-02-02 4:32:01 PM  

Confabulat: I wasn't really interested in a Frasier reboot but if they make it a Cheers reboot I'm totally in. I was a big Cheers nerd back in the day and any time James Burrows directed it was a good one. And hey, what is Ted Danson doing these days?


definitely won't be a Cheers reboot. For practical real world reasons it would be prohibitively expensive and for in-story reasons he had already really put Cheers and his time with those friends behind him in Frasier. There's a couple downer episodes where Woody or Sam show up in Seattle and he struggles with realizing he doesn't have any space in his new life for those old buddies and their relationships have run their course.

All that said, with the Boston setting it's a near guarantee we will get Cheers cameos and him dealing with being in his old town should be interesting. Lilith will probably still be there and the article says Freddie is a recurring character.

Feeling cautiously optimistic
 
Kid the Universe
2023-02-02 4:33:24 PM  

stuhayes2010: So, the Frasier timeline is works in Boston, moves to Seatle and works there, presumably retires and moves back across the country?


based on the Frasier finale I would assume he will be heading to Boston after a failed relationship with the Laura Linney character in Chicago
 
mcreadyblue
2023-02-02 4:35:37 PM  
They didn't go with Dell Boy?

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But went with Rodney?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 4:47:21 PM  
A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.
 
SBinRR [OhFark]
2023-02-02 4:55:05 PM  
The Boston that existed when Cheers existed is not the Boston that exists today.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 4:56:41 PM  
And another thing, "Frasier" is not even canon to the Cheers universe. Frasier's dad was already dead (and had been a researcher) when his mother met Diane.
 
Kid the Universe
2023-02-02 5:03:07 PM  

jbc: And another thing, "Frasier" is not even canon to the Cheers universe. Frasier's dad was already dead (and had been a researcher) when his mother met Diane.


The actor who played Martin Crane also played a different character, a piano player if I remember correctly, on an episode of Cheers. I also believe they addressed Frasier saying his dad was dead in Frasier when, I think, Sam comes to visit. The explanation was that their estrangement at the time led Frasier to say that about him
 
Weatherkiss [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-02 5:03:09 PM  

jbc: And another thing, "Frasier" is not even canon to the Cheers universe. Frasier's dad was already dead (and had been a researcher) when his mother met Diane.


That was before Lilith went back in time to the Prime Cheers Universe and altered the timeline.
 
oldfarthenry [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 5:04:20 PM  
You'd think in these enlightened times the old Cheers gang would be meeting up at an AA meeting in a church basement.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 5:06:51 PM  

Kid the Universe: jbc: And another thing, "Frasier" is not even canon to the Cheers universe. Frasier's dad was already dead (and had been a researcher) when his mother met Diane.

The actor who played Martin Crane also played a different character, a piano player if I remember correctly, on an episode of Cheers. I also believe they addressed Frasier saying his dad was dead in Frasier when, I think, Sam comes to visit. The explanation was that their estrangement at the time led Frasier to say that about him


Jingle writer.
 
Confabulat [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 5:21:53 PM  

jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.


But do you really think Norm would have left the bar if he could still breathe in 2023?
 
Confabulat [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 5:24:21 PM  

jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.


And also, this is one of the worst ideas ever. Have you ever seen a "Next Generation" show that worked except, well, "The Next Generation?"

/sounds like Hollywood typing
 
Snatch Bandergrip
2023-02-02 5:34:24 PM  

Eightballjacket: I watched the new Rosanne and the new Murphy Brown.  They were just horrible.  It seemed like all the actors forgot how to read lines and spoke so woodenly and slow.

I have low expectations for this one



There's not been even one TV reboot worth a single solitary shiat.

Farkers said the Night Courtreboot wasn't too bad so I gave it a shot and holy fark were they wrong.  It's a Disney Channel show without child actors.
 
Kid the Universe
2023-02-02 5:45:05 PM  

jbc: Kid the Universe: jbc: And another thing, "Frasier" is not even canon to the Cheers universe. Frasier's dad was already dead (and had been a researcher) when his mother met Diane.

The actor who played Martin Crane also played a different character, a piano player if I remember correctly, on an episode of Cheers. I also believe they addressed Frasier saying his dad was dead in Frasier when, I think, Sam comes to visit. The explanation was that their estrangement at the time led Frasier to say that about him

Jingle writer.


That was it! I can see his tacky colorful jacket, I remember coming across that episode as a kid watching reruns and being temporarily confused
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-02-02 5:51:43 PM  

Confabulat: jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.

But do you really think Norm would have left the bar if he could still breathe in 2023?


Norm would have been prime COVID fodder between age and weight.  But the actor is only 74... plenty of bar flies who haven't died of liver failure are still in bars at that age.  Neighborhood or dive bar, whichever.  Not so much the 'upscale' places because they cater to young people.

Sam could certainly still be at the bar given he owns it, but I think the womanizing would have to change tone if not end.  He's 75, he's not going to be going for any double-decker-Sammiches.  Maybe he's just a charming flirt or something.  Maybe he does have a different woman every season as he sets off to winter in Florida, who knows?  But Danson could sell it.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 5:54:08 PM  

Confabulat: jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.

And also, this is one of the worst ideas ever. Have you ever seen a "Next Generation" show that worked except, well, "The Next Generation?"

/sounds like Hollywood typing


Sam and Carla would be long retired. Cliff would be retired and in Florida. Woody has moved on to politics. Rebecca is dead. Eddie LeBec is dead. John Allen Hill is dead. I don't need to tell you about Coach. You want to incorporate all that into one show?!? Or worse, do a show around just Norm and Paul?!? The show worked because it was well-written with an ensemble cast. I'd much rather see what's going on in Cheers now than something that bounces around from bar to retirement home to cemetery to The Villages to another cemetery to City Hall to to Frasier's new job to yet another cemetery to Gary's, only to find out Gary is also retired.
 
GlamrLama
2023-02-02 6:03:25 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Eightballjacket: I watched the new Rosanne and the new Murphy Brown.  They were just horrible.  It seemed like all the actors forgot how to read lines and spoke so woodenly and slow.

I have low expectations for this one


There's not been even one TV reboot worth a single solitary shiat.

Farkers said the Night Courtreboot wasn't too bad so I gave it a shot and holy fark were they wrong.  It's a Disney Channel show without child actors.


Didn't Lucille Ball have number of different TV shows as you know Lucy?
 
HempHead
2023-02-02 6:05:23 PM  

jbc: Confabulat: jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.

And also, this is one of the worst ideas ever. Have you ever seen a "Next Generation" show that worked except, well, "The Next Generation?"

/sounds like Hollywood typing

Sam and Carla would be long retired. Cliff would be retired and in Florida. Woody has moved on to politics. Rebecca is dead. Eddie LeBec is dead. John Allen Hill is dead. I don't need to tell you about Coach. You want to incorporate all that into one show?!? Or worse, do a show around just Norm and Paul?!? The show worked because it was well-written with an ensemble cast. I'd much rather see what's going on in Cheers now than something that bounces around from bar to retirement home to cemetery to The Villages to another cemetery to City Hall to to Frasier's new job to yet another cemetery to Gary's, only to find out Gary is also retired.


They should do a Night Court / Cheers cross over and have ChatGPT write all of the scripts.


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jake3988 [OhFark]
2023-02-02 6:12:53 PM  

Eightballjacket: I watched the new Rosanne and the new Murphy Brown.  They were just horrible.  It seemed like all the actors forgot how to read lines and spoke so woodenly and slow.

I have low expectations for this one


The revival season of roseanne was awful (I still mostly blame roseanne, she was the worst of everyone) but once they settled in, it's been really good.   The conners is on season 5.  There's a reason for that.  It's really really good.

/Will and Grace revived and was ok, I was never a super big fan of the original, but I mostly enjoyed the revival.
//Never cared to watch the old or new Murphy Brown.  Not my thing.
 
Erma Gerdd
2023-02-02 6:20:00 PM  

jbc: And another thing, "Frasier" is not even canon to the Cheers universe. Frasier's dad was already dead (and had been a researcher) when his mother met Diane.


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petuniapup
2023-02-02 6:24:25 PM  
How many times did the original Frasier cast stage interventions for Grammer IRL?
While I don't doubt David Hyde Pierce may have simply been done with his character, part of me thinks he simply didn't have the energy to deal with that again, especially without m/any other returning actors.
*shrug*
But, like others here have said, the setup and Burrows' involvement make this seem appealing.
 
chitownmike
2023-02-02 6:57:27 PM  

Confabulat: Cliff Clavin was in Poker Face just the other day and he was a lot of fun. I can't imagine Norm is doing much and no one ever heard from Woody again I hear


Norm died of liver disease in the late '90s
 
chitownmike
2023-02-02 7:06:55 PM  

Jake Havechek: I like how the set design on the new Night Court is exactly the same as the old show.  Other than that, an aging Dan Fielding is funny, but Melissa Rauch hasn't gotten a handle on being Harry's daughter yet.


Do you think NYC has changed their courtrooms (aside from plexi dividers) since the '80s?
 
chitownmike
2023-02-02 7:15:15 PM  

oldfarthenry: You'd think in these enlightened times the old Cheers gang would be meeting up at an AA meeting in a church basement.


Chuck Lorie tried that concept
 
chitownmike
2023-02-02 7:22:16 PM  

HempHead: jbc: Confabulat: jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.

And also, this is one of the worst ideas ever. Have you ever seen a "Next Generation" show that worked except, well, "The Next Generation?"

/sounds like Hollywood typing

Sam and Carla would be long retired. Cliff would be retired and in Florida. Woody has moved on to politics. Rebecca is dead. Eddie LeBec is dead. John Allen Hill is dead. I don't need to tell you about Coach. You want to incorporate all that into one show?!? Or worse, do a show around just Norm and Paul?!? The show worked because it was well-written with an ensemble cast. I'd much rather see what's going on in Cheers now than something that bounces around from bar to retirement home to cemetery to The Villages to another cemetery to City Hall to to Frasier's new job to yet another cemetery to Gary's, only to find out Gary is also retired.

They should do a Night Court / Cheers cross over and have ChatGPT write all of the scripts.


[Fark user image image 850x706]


https://cheers.fandom.com/wiki/Harry_%22The_Hat%22_Gittes
 
jclaggett
2023-02-02 8:21:09 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Confabulat: I wasn't really interested in a Frasier reboot but if they make it a Cheers reboot I'm totally in. I was a big Cheers nerd back in the day and any time James Burrows directed it was a good one. And hey, what is Ted Danson doing these days?

He did Good Place, which was good, and then Mr Mayor, which was not.

Cheers would need some serious updating to work today, but I'd give it a go.  Especially if they brought Danson back as Sam to link to the old show.

But Ratzenberger is apparently a member of the MAGA crowd, so much like Grammer I just don't want to ever hear from him again.  Once you know someone is garbage, it taints their performances.


I some how missed finishing Person of Interest. Got about 3/4th of the last season to watch... And yeah, it's hard to do.
 
greatgodyoshi [BareFark]
2023-02-02 8:27:22 PM  

HempHead: jbc: Confabulat: jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.

And also, this is one of the worst ideas ever. Have you ever seen a "Next Generation" show that worked except, well, "The Next Generation?"

/sounds like Hollywood typing

Sam and Carla would be long retired. Cliff would be retired and in Florida. Woody has moved on to politics. Rebecca is dead. Eddie LeBec is dead. John Allen Hill is dead. I don't need to tell you about Coach. You want to incorporate all that into one show?!? Or worse, do a show around just Norm and Paul?!? The show worked because it was well-written with an ensemble cast. I'd much rather see what's going on in Cheers now than something that bounces around from bar to retirement home to cemetery to The Villages to another cemetery to City Hall to to Frasier's new job to yet another cemetery to Gary's, only to find out Gary is also retired.

They should do a Night Court / Cheers cross over and have ChatGPT write all of the scripts.


[Fark user image image 850x706]


Didn't Harry pop up as a magician in Cheers once? Maybe in an intro scene?
 
Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient
2023-02-02 8:44:07 PM  

greatgodyoshi: HempHead: jbc: Confabulat: jbc: A Cheers reboot could work, but quit trying to stuff the old characters back into it. It would only work as a new ensemble in that bar. You could make one of Woody and Kelly's kids a bartender or manager if you absolutely needed another connection, you can have old cast members do an episode here or there, but it needs to reflect who would really be there in that bar in 2023, not 1993.

And also, this is one of the worst ideas ever. Have you ever seen a "Next Generation" show that worked except, well, "The Next Generation?"

/sounds like Hollywood typing

Sam and Carla would be long retired. Cliff would be retired and in Florida. Woody has moved on to politics. Rebecca is dead. Eddie LeBec is dead. John Allen Hill is dead. I don't need to tell you about Coach. You want to incorporate all that into one show?!? Or worse, do a show around just Norm and Paul?!? The show worked because it was well-written with an ensemble cast. I'd much rather see what's going on in Cheers now than something that bounces around from bar to retirement home to cemetery to The Villages to another cemetery to City Hall to to Frasier's new job to yet another cemetery to Gary's, only to find out Gary is also retired.

They should do a Night Court / Cheers cross over and have ChatGPT write all of the scripts.


[Fark user image image 850x706]

Didn't Harry pop up as a magician in Cheers once? Maybe in an intro scene?


A couple of times, but as "Harry the Hat" who was a con-artist street magician, not a judge.
 
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