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(CNBC)   Amazon to lawmakers: our warehouses don't need no tornado shelters, workers are expendable. Now give us our tax breaks   (cnbc.com) divider line
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edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-02 2:18:31 PM  
I know a lot about Amazon because my neighbor was a manager at that very warehouse. He had years of experience in the warehouse business before joining that company. But his stories...

He retired for good just before this happened and he is very happily retired.
 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-02 2:23:56 PM  
At least the shareholder value won't suffer.
 
koder [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-02 6:29:01 PM  
Six workers were killed in December 2021 at an Amazon warehouse in Illinois after a tornado ripped through the building.

Bet they were also automatically fired beforehand because their software determined their individual productivity had flatlined.
 
olorin604
2023-02-02 8:22:57 PM  
This is America workers arent people they are a disposable and replaceable resource. Not even one valuable enough to make capital improvements to protect.
 
JoyR!der
2023-02-02 8:23:23 PM  
Free market =/= duty of care
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-02-02 8:25:07 PM  
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Billionaires & Big Businesses (March 16, 2020): "Don't worry, we're in this together."

Billionaires & Big Businesses (April 1, 2020): "Fark you, get back to work!"
 
PvtStash
2023-02-02 8:25:52 PM  
workers are expendable.
history of us is the reality of that.
gonna take a whole whole lotta effort, over many many many generations, to even budge our average.
 
GentDirkly
2023-02-02 8:28:59 PM  
It would not be fair to target Amazon only.  All warehouses in a given area should have appropriate storm shelters.

And if you read the article, this building actually did have a safe room, just, some workers might not have realized it and tried to shelter in the bathroom instead.  Building a saferoom is important, but marking it and educating all the users of the building about which room it is is also important.
 
gonegirl
2023-02-02 8:33:16 PM  
TFA indicates that the families of some of the deceased are suing. I am not a lawyer, but:

If Amazon now built a shelter, would that be ammunition that could be used against them in that case, as an admission that their facilities were previously inadequate?
 
LarryDan43
2023-02-02 8:33:36 PM  
We only do the right thing when somebody forces us do the right thing.
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-02 8:34:30 PM  
The rich and powerful know how much they have to gain by advocating for themselves.

The working class mostly doesn't see why they should have to care, after all, politics is boring.

Come on, nuclear apocalypse.
 
Tarl3k
2023-02-02 8:35:14 PM  
This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.
 
Insurgent
2023-02-02 8:35:32 PM  

GentDirkly: It would not be fair to target Amazon only.  All warehouses in a given area should have appropriate storm shelters.

And if you read the article, this building actually did have a safe room, just, some workers might not have realized it and tried to shelter in the bathroom instead.  Building a saferoom is important, but marking it and educating all the users of the building about which room it is is also important.


TFA said "assembly room" not "safe room"

going to bat for amazon. farking precious
 
Insurgent
2023-02-02 8:36:25 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: The rich and powerful know how much they have to gain by advocating for themselves.

The working class mostly doesn't see why they should have to care, after all, politics is boring.

Come on, nuclear apocalypse.


nice example of blaming the victim
 
shinji3i
2023-02-02 8:36:35 PM  

Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.


A majority of your countrymen disagree with you.
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-02 8:37:20 PM  

Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.


Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-02 8:39:12 PM  

Insurgent: Kumana Wanalaia: The rich and powerful know how much they have to gain by advocating for themselves.
The working class mostly doesn't see why they should have to care, after all, politics is boring.
Come on, nuclear apocalypse.

nice example of blaming the victim


Nice example of sticking your head in the sand to avoid the truth, you coward.
Don't blame me that reality is unpalatable.
 
Tarl3k
2023-02-02 8:39:48 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?


Nope, one better:

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Communist Middleschool Student
2023-02-02 8:40:14 PM  

PvtStash: workers are expendable.
history of us is the reality of that.
gonna take a whole whole lotta effort, over many many many generations, to even budge our average.


There are eight billion people on this planet. Everyone is expendable.
 
Communist Middleschool Student
2023-02-02 8:41:13 PM  

Tarl3k: Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?

Nope, one better:

[Fark user image 850x587]


I'll believe it when you guys actually get up off your couches and put me up against a wall.
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-02 8:42:15 PM  

Tarl3k: Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?

Nope, one better:

[Fark user image 850x587]


I'll see you that and raise you:

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JAYoung
2023-02-02 8:43:14 PM  
Oklahoma's school builders don't believe in tornado shelters either.
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-02 8:43:15 PM  

Communist Middleschool Student: Tarl3k: Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?

Nope, one better:

[Fark user image 850x587]

I'll believe it when you guys actually get up off your couches and put me up against a wall.


Insh'Allah
 
Ringshadow [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-02 8:43:59 PM  
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Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-02 8:47:09 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Insurgent: Kumana Wanalaia: The rich and powerful know how much they have to gain by advocating for themselves.
The working class mostly doesn't see why they should have to care, after all, politics is boring.
Come on, nuclear apocalypse.

nice example of blaming the victim

Nice example of sticking your head in the sand to avoid the truth, you coward.
Don't blame me that reality is unpalatable.


Not to mention blaming the messenger for the problem.
People like Insurgent are what's wrong with this country. No, this world.

Go take a flying leap.
 
Shaggy_C
2023-02-02 8:47:57 PM  
"Amazon requires that its buildings follow all applicable laws and building codes," Brian Huseman, Amazon's vice president of public policy, wrote on Jan. 14 in responses to an inquiry from three Democratic lawmakers.
"We have not identified any jurisdiction in the United States that requires storm shelters or safe rooms for these types of facilities."

Oh, so some lawmakers asked a simple question about why Amazon specifically doesn't build things into their facilities that aren't required by law? Seems like a pleasant enough exchange.

Oh, no. Never mind. This is AOC and Elizabeth Warren we're talking about - can't just ask a question, you have to use accusatory rhetoric, referring to a company that followed all of the rules and had the bad luck to be hit by a major tornado as having "apparent unwillingness to invest in a storm shelter."

I guess at least they sent a letter instead of a mean tweet. That must have been Warren's personal touch.
 
Kumana Wanalaia
2023-02-02 8:48:01 PM  
If we can't recognize the pieces of the puzzle, how can we solve it?

Riddle me that, batman.
 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 8:48:42 PM  

Communist Middleschool Student: I'll believe it when you guys actually get up off your couches and put me up against a wall.


username does not check out.
 
TheDavil [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-02 8:49:25 PM  
'In related news, onsite digging equipment has finally uncovered the previously-mentioned Amazon executive saferoom, where one Amazon Warehouse manager and 10 female warehouse employees emerged safely from the tornado disaster, gooey but otherwise unscathed.'
 
Iczer
2023-02-02 8:54:51 PM  
Annnd now I'm irked I bought my PS4 Slim's new HDD from them... Didn't help matters in the slightest that their price for the damn thing was nearly $30 less than the cheapest I could find elsewhere.
 
Zul the Magnificent
2023-02-02 8:55:54 PM  

GentDirkly: It would not be fair to target Amazon only.  All warehouses in a given area should have appropriate storm shelters.

And if you read the article, this building actually did have a safe room, just, some workers might not have realized it and tried to shelter in the bathroom instead.  Building a saferoom is important, but marking it and educating all the users of the building about which room it is is also important.


Per TFA, it looks like the tornado actually formed up in the parking lot. Some folks might not have had time to get to the designated area and made the next best choice.

I gotta side with Amazon on this part, though--they built their building to the specs that were required of them.  Not gonna hash on them about that.
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-02 8:56:42 PM  

edmo: I know a lot about Amazon because my neighbor was a manager at that very warehouse. He had years of experience in the warehouse business before joining that company. But his stories...

He retired for good just before this happened and he is very happily retired.


There are three types of Amazonians: the ones who have drank the Kool-Aid, the ones who see and tolerate a lot of bullshiat for the paycheck, and the delusional very few who think they can improve the culture.
 
Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet
2023-02-02 8:59:01 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?

Nope, one better:

[Fark user image 850x587]

I'll see you that and raise you:

[Fark user image 275x183]


Remember, feet first!
 
vrax
2023-02-02 9:04:49 PM  
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Any Pie Left
2023-02-02 9:07:02 PM  
The shelter standards could be improved rapidly with pressure from the insurance companies. Higher rates for shiatty non compliance, or non coverage if standards are not met.
 
Shaggy_C
2023-02-02 9:10:39 PM  

Iczer: Annnd now I'm irked I bought my PS4 Slim's new HDD from them... Didn't help matters in the slightest that their price for the damn thing was nearly $30 less than the cheapest I could find elsewhere.


So not only do you monetarily show support by buying something from Amazon, you further support them by trumpeting their low prices on social media. This, whilst feigning disgust with their business practices.

*sigh*
 
Eunice's Social Calendar [TotalFark]
2023-02-02 9:15:03 PM  
Wonder how much the insurance coverage for the building or property or product was, maybe even not required in the specs, as opposed to building a basement as insurance for some folks lives?  I'm sure they ponied up for that.
 
Senseless_drivel
2023-02-02 9:17:39 PM  
Where is Amazon supposed to find the money for employee safety?

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ScrimBoy
2023-02-02 9:18:56 PM  
Why do they need to build a shelter?

Can't they just order one from their website?  I bet they even have Prime.
 
deadromanoff
2023-02-02 9:23:01 PM  
Next up.....
Something osha related comes before scotus and they invalidate osha.

No more issues with workers safety.

The aristocrats!!!
 
suebhoney
2023-02-02 9:24:45 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?


I have no idea how old you may be, but growing up watching Sesame Street with my younger brother there used to be a short skit with a shady character, black coat & hat, on a corner waiting for anyone to walk by, and he says "pssst, hey buddy wanna buy an X?", opens his coat to one side where an X is positioned.

The only other person on the planet I know who remembers this skit is my exhusband. When we were dating, he was waiting for me for us to meet up together and as I got closer he said "pssst, hey you, wanna buy an X?" and opened his jacket to show me the X adhered inside.

I would give almost anything if he had remained that guy. That's the guy I fell head over heels for, for being light and fun and witty and compassionate and loving. Sadly that man disappeared less than 5 years after we were married.

I'd love to know if anyone else remembers that Sesame Street skit though, so feel free to speak up anyone 🙂
 
The Reverend Sam Hill [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-02 9:25:04 PM  
-- No law requires us to do this. Neener neener neener.
-- OK, here's a bill to require....
-- Here's a couple of megabucks to kill these Jerb Killin' Regalashuns.
 
NathanAllen
2023-02-02 9:25:07 PM  
Somehow I got nominated to be the data guy for our legal department.

It's only helpful that I get to put ### vs (my company) on our task board since I can't disclose the details to my uninitiated boss and co-workers.

I'll assume it chaps their asses that I am permitted secrets by the company. Mostly it's boring as fark. Sometimes super fun to navigate our data position.
 
Karma Chameleon
2023-02-02 9:28:41 PM  
Now give us our tax breaks

Lawmakers: Well alright. Sorry to have bothered you.
 
GentDirkly
2023-02-02 9:43:04 PM  

Insurgent: GentDirkly: It would not be fair to target Amazon only.  All warehouses in a given area should have appropriate storm shelters.

And if you read the article, this building actually did have a safe room, just, some workers might not have realized it and tried to shelter in the bathroom instead.  Building a saferoom is important, but marking it and educating all the users of the building about which room it is is also important.

TFA said "assembly room" not "safe room"

going to bat for amazon. farking precious


I really could care less whose warehouse it was.
Folks died while working, and we have a bunch of mechanisms, including fire codes, building codes, and Osha codes, that could be updated to prevent that from recurring.
Those mechanisms would apply equally to everyone.  You know, like all codes and laws should.
I agree that Amazon has some bad tendencies and some of their business practices should be illegal.
But let's remember how the law works.  If you pass a new law, everyone has to obey it.  Not just Jeff Bezos.
 
kkinnison [OhFark]
2023-02-02 9:46:22 PM  
Workers who found the safe room were fired due to lack of productivity and were no longer employees but trespassing and will be sued by amazon
 
Mr. Shabooboo
2023-02-02 9:54:21 PM  

suebhoney: Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?

I have no idea how old you may be, but growing up watching Sesame Street with my younger brother there used to be a short skit with a shady character, black coat & hat, on a corner waiting for anyone to walk by, and he says "pssst, hey buddy wanna buy an X?", opens his coat to one side where an X is positioned.

The only other person on the planet I know who remembers this skit is my exhusband. When we were dating, he was waiting for me for us to meet up together and as I got closer he said "pssst, hey you, wanna buy an X?" and opened his jacket to show me the X adhered inside.

I would give almost anything if he had remained that guy. That's the guy I fell head over heels for, for being light and fun and witty and compassionate and loving. Sadly that man disappeared less than 5 years after we were married.

I'd love to know if anyone else remembers that Sesame Street skit though, so feel free to speak up anyone 🙂


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Absolutely..He even has a name... Lefty the Salesman
 
Nana's Vibrator
2023-02-02 9:57:08 PM  

suebhoney: Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?

I have no idea how old you may be, but growing up watching Sesame Street with my younger brother there used to be a short skit with a shady character, black coat & hat, on a corner waiting for anyone to walk by, and he says "pssst, hey buddy wanna buy an X?", opens his coat to one side where an X is positioned.

The only other person on the planet I know who remembers this skit is my exhusband. When we were dating, he was waiting for me for us to meet up together and as I got closer he said "pssst, hey you, wanna buy an X?" and opened his jacket to show me the X adhered inside.

I would give almost anything if he had remained that guy. That's the guy I fell head over heels for, for being light and fun and witty and compassionate and loving. Sadly that man disappeared less than 5 years after we were married.

I'd love to know if anyone else remembers that Sesame Street skit though, so feel free to speak up anyone 🙂


More people remember this guy than youd think
 
sinner4ever
2023-02-02 9:58:58 PM  
Neil Gorsuch ruled that workers need to die for the company. It has already been shown that companies can dictate what you can and can not do outside of work. Some test workers for nicotine. OSHA has been a joke for a very long time.

Conservatives hate "job killing regulations" or as we see it "life saving regulations".
 
suebhoney
2023-02-02 10:04:26 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: suebhoney: Kumana Wanalaia: Tarl3k: This is unacceptable.  This kind of malfeasance shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Pssst. psssst. hey, hey pal.

over here.

you wanna buy a pitchfork?

I have no idea how old you may be, but growing up watching Sesame Street with my younger brother there used to be a short skit with a shady character, black coat & hat, on a corner waiting for anyone to walk by, and he says "pssst, hey buddy wanna buy an X?", opens his coat to one side where an X is positioned.

The only other person on the planet I know who remembers this skit is my exhusband. When we were dating, he was waiting for me for us to meet up together and as I got closer he said "pssst, hey you, wanna buy an X?" and opened his jacket to show me the X adhered inside.

I would give almost anything if he had remained that guy. That's the guy I fell head over heels for, for being light and fun and witty and compassionate and loving. Sadly that man disappeared less than 5 years after we were married.

I'd love to know if anyone else remembers that Sesame Street skit though, so feel free to speak up anyone 🙂

[Fark user image image 266x189]
Absolutely..He even has a name... Lefty the Salesman


Marry me? 😘😘
 
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