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OdradekRex [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 10:29:50 AM  
Caps. Lots of caps to be made. If you have weapons, ammo, or canned goods to trade.
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 10:31:11 AM  
Issue: a bad thing is happening.

Opportunity: blame all the shiat I don't like on that bad thing.
 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 12:57:36 PM  
I have no doubt many will profit from fake and/or ineffective ways to deal with climate change. That remains the nature of capitalism and human greed.

So, what works best, other than continuing headlong into causing our own extinction? I did not see any inputs in this article to prevent such. Or did I miss something?
 
logic523 [BareFark]
2023-02-01 3:07:23 PM  
Pocky clips
 
foo monkey
2023-02-01 3:07:40 PM  
Why wait when you can profit now?

Carbon Offsets: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Youtube 6p8zAbFKpW0
 
anjin-san
2023-02-01 3:08:07 PM  
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makerofbadjokes [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 3:09:12 PM  

OdradekRex: Caps. Lots of caps to be made. If you have weapons, ammo, or canned goods to trade.


Just need a chemistry station, and some plastic - this article has all the fertilizer I'll ever need to make a Chemdom of my own.  (Like a kingdom, but fueled by chems)
 
MattytheMouse
2023-02-01 3:10:25 PM  

OdradekRex: Caps. Lots of caps to be made. If you have weapons, ammo, or canned goods to trade.


I'm opening Deathclaw hooters.
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Shaggy_C
2023-02-01 3:10:52 PM  
Thankfully all sins are forgiven as long as you vote for the most popular centre-left political party in your given country. No need to change anything in your personal habits or boycott dirty industries or anything of the sort. Corporations bear all responsibility and centrist politicians will surely bring them to heel.
 
Subtonic
2023-02-01 3:12:29 PM  

anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]


We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-02-01 3:14:11 PM  
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MyMindIsGoingDave
2023-02-01 3:14:59 PM  
The fact that there is a book called "Investing in the Apocalypse" tells me that we have gone way to far in monetizing everything
 
Subtonic
2023-02-01 3:15:18 PM  
Eat the bugs. Live in the pod.
 
Squik2 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 3:15:31 PM  
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ElwoodCuse
2023-02-01 3:16:26 PM  

AirForceVet: So, what works best


dismantling capitalism, like gritty said
 
EyeballKid
2023-02-01 3:16:44 PM  
Gauging the outrage vented in the past by some of the smartest smart people in these threads, the blame must be solely on the heads of children throwing soup in museums.
 
oopsboom
2023-02-01 3:16:49 PM  

MattytheMouse: OdradekRex: Caps. Lots of caps to be made. If you have weapons, ammo, or canned goods to trade.

I'm opening Deathclaw hooters.
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that better be a real mod
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 3:17:24 PM  

MattytheMouse: OdradekRex: Caps. Lots of caps to be made. If you have weapons, ammo, or canned goods to trade.

I'm opening Deathclaw hooters.
[Fark user image 425x486]


You get weirder every day.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
 
Underwater Bystander
2023-02-01 3:17:32 PM  

Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.


Serious question: why not? If we're talking about the viability of the entire planet then why is shrinking/removing the beef and dairy industry off the table?

/insert "sacred cow" joke here
 
colon_pow
2023-02-01 3:18:21 PM  
war and famine are just around the corner so you better plant those trees quick.  plant fruit trees.
 
Cokezeroinacan
2023-02-01 3:18:28 PM  

anjin-san: [Fark user image image 850x763]


But what if I eat a healthier diet for nothing?
 
Subtonic
2023-02-01 3:18:57 PM  

EyeballKid: Gauging the outrage vented in the past by some of the smartest smart people in these threads, the blame must be solely on the heads of children throwing soup in museums.


YEAH! You beat the FARK out of that strawman!
 
MattytheMouse
2023-02-01 3:22:22 PM  

MyMindIsGoingDave: The fact that there is a book called "Investing in the Apocalypse" tells me that we have gone way to far in monetizing everything


When people tell me that "capitalism is the only thing that works," I'm just like... By what standard?! Like, we're literally looking down the barrel of a man-made extinction event, and we're dragging our feet on doing anything about it 'cause it's just not profitable. Even market-based solutions to climate change are half-measures, at best.
 
Halfabee64
2023-02-01 3:23:35 PM  
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/Taking The Lord's name in vain...for dehydrated apocalypse soup.
 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 3:25:25 PM  

Underwater Bystander: Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.

Serious question: why not? If we're talking about the viability of the entire planet then why is shrinking/removing the beef and dairy industry off the table?

/insert "sacred cow" joke here


We really should. Nothing farks up the environment like industrial cattle ranching. Between feed lots and alfalfa, they suck up water and pollute the groundwater and dump so much literal shiat into the runoff, it's an environmental nightmare.

Just making the beef industry local by law would probably solve a big chunk of the problem. Like, make it so that beef cannot be shipped more than 25 miles from source to market or something. Oh no! What will people in cities eat? I guess they'll have to figure something out.
 
Halfabee64
2023-02-01 3:25:36 PM  

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/Taking The Lord's name in vain...for dehydrated apocalypse soup.


Oh, and Jim, shouldn't your flock not NEED apocalypse buckets if they are all going to be raptured for listening to God's word through your ministry?
 
ChimpMitten
2023-02-01 3:26:00 PM  

AirForceVet: I have no doubt many will profit from fake and/or ineffective ways to deal with climate change. That remains the nature of capitalism and human greed.

So, what works best, other than continuing headlong into causing our own extinction? I did not see any inputs in this article to prevent such. Or did I miss something?


Last few paragraphs talk about reparative justice, basically the gritty meme above.

Coming soon, to an election cycle near you, REPARATIVE JUSTICE WILL RAPE YOUR CHILDREN!
 
yakmans_dad
2023-02-01 3:26:58 PM  
Human greed and indifference cannot be eliminated with reason. Film at 10.
 
foo monkey
2023-02-01 3:27:18 PM  

Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.


It should be a treat, not a staple.
 
Shaggy_C
2023-02-01 3:27:32 PM  

MattytheMouse: When people tell me that "capitalism is the only thing that works," I'm just like... By what standard?! Like, we're literally looking down the barrel of a man-made extinction event, and we're dragging our feet on doing anything about it 'cause it's just not profitable. Even market-based solutions to climate change are half-measures, at best.


I imagine it's a comparative statement. Yeah, it's better for most people than theocracy, feudalism, fascism, and soviet-style autocracy, but that's not to say that we've "cracked the nut" and found perfection. It's just the least bad of a lot of shiatty choices.
 
ElwoodCuse
2023-02-01 3:27:36 PM  
"what will people eat" is a problem created by, you guessed it, capitalism. there's more than enough food on this planet for everyone to eat. but it's kept artificially scarce in the name profit, both from selling the food and requiring people to work so they don't starve
 
Derp Du Jour
2023-02-01 3:27:39 PM  
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wildcardjack
2023-02-01 3:28:38 PM  

Underwater Bystander: Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.

Serious question: why not? If we're talking about the viability of the entire planet then why is shrinking/removing the beef and dairy industry off the table?

/insert "sacred cow" joke here


Cows make use of land not suited to crops, can be used as part of a rotation scheme, and eat grain byproducts we cannot make use of otherwise.
 
Be polite walk on the right
2023-02-01 3:29:22 PM  
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Zik-Zak
2023-02-01 3:30:21 PM  

MattytheMouse: OdradekRex: Caps. Lots of caps to be made. If you have weapons, ammo, or canned goods to trade.

I'm opening Deathclaw hooters.
[Fark user image 425x486]


STOP MAKING ME FEEL THINGS I CAN'T EXPLAIN
 
MattytheMouse
2023-02-01 3:30:39 PM  

Shaggy_C: MattytheMouse: When people tell me that "capitalism is the only thing that works," I'm just like... By what standard?! Like, we're literally looking down the barrel of a man-made extinction event, and we're dragging our feet on doing anything about it 'cause it's just not profitable. Even market-based solutions to climate change are half-measures, at best.

I imagine it's a comparative statement. Yeah, it's better for most people than theocracy, feudalism, fascism, and soviet-style autocracy, but that's not to say that we've "cracked the nut" and found perfection. It's just the least bad of a lot of shiatty choices.


The thing is: I'm not even convinced it's the 'least bad'.
 
TommyDeuce [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 3:31:38 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Underwater Bystander: Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.

Serious question: why not? If we're talking about the viability of the entire planet then why is shrinking/removing the beef and dairy industry off the table?

/insert "sacred cow" joke here

We really should. Nothing farks up the environment like industrial cattle ranching. Between feed lots and alfalfa, they suck up water and pollute the groundwater and dump so much literal shiat into the runoff, it's an environmental nightmare.

Just making the beef industry local by law would probably solve a big chunk of the problem. Like, make it so that beef cannot be shipped more than 25 miles from source to market or something. Oh no! What will people in cities eat? I guess they'll have to figure something out.


Lab grown meat.

/In the works already
 
Subtonic
2023-02-01 3:31:46 PM  

foo monkey: Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.

It should be a treat, not a staple.


Then let's price it accordingly and include all the externalities and remove all subsides. A pound of hamburger should be going for 100 bucks. You want that mister? Huh? DO YOU, HUH?!!?

*begins poking you in the chest*
 
SplittingAces
2023-02-01 3:33:05 PM  
[What would make a difference is developing mass transport and substantially reducing car ownership...]

'Murica points and laughs.

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Dr Dreidel
2023-02-01 3:33:09 PM  

MattytheMouse: MyMindIsGoingDave: The fact that there is a book called "Investing in the Apocalypse" tells me that we have gone way to far in monetizing everything

When people tell me that "capitalism is the only thing that works," I'm just like... By what standard?! Like, we're literally looking down the barrel of a man-made extinction event, and we're dragging our feet on doing anything about it 'cause it's just not profitable. Even market-based solutions to climate change are half-measures, at best.


Sort of like when they say "socialism" killed 3-5 million people in the Holodomor.

Taking that as a given, why do we not lay at capitalism's feet those dead from lack of access to medical treatment/care (hello, insulin gougers!) or from starvation, or worked to early deaths in factories, or poisoned by the local chemical concern - or who were told/ordered to go back to work during a farking pandemic - or any number of a hundred other capitalism problems?

I have nothing to add here, other than asking the same question.

// we also don't have to take it as a given that "socialism" killed them - we can also say that it was prejudice against Ukrainians combined with a natural famine and a mismanagement of a centrally-planned economy, none of which has anything to do with workers owning the means of production (unless someone means to point to their lack of that ownership, which kinds of makes it hard to blame "socialism" at all)
 
BafflerMeal
2023-02-01 3:34:57 PM  
There is a metric ass-load of startups in this space on linkedin. I'm ashamed to know some of these people. "Spreadsheet" startups are bullshiat.
 
Tarl3k
2023-02-01 3:35:08 PM  

Underwater Bystander: Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.

Serious question: why not? If we're talking about the viability of the entire planet then why is shrinking/removing the beef and dairy industry off the table?

/insert "sacred cow" joke here


I'll give you a hint.  It starts with "mo", and ends with "ney".
 
MattytheMouse
2023-02-01 3:35:17 PM  

SplittingAces: [What would make a difference is developing mass transport and substantially reducing car ownership...]

'Murica points and laughs.

[Fark user image image 554x439]


Bro, America's city car-centric city design has been my biggest bugbear these last couple of years. Like, who the fark looks at this and thinks this is sustainable?
 
Subtonic
2023-02-01 3:35:37 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Sort of like when they say "socialism" killed 3-5 million people in the Holodomor.


Was that a battle in Lord of the Rings?
 
MattytheMouse
2023-02-01 3:36:06 PM  

Zik-Zak: MattytheMouse: OdradekRex: Caps. Lots of caps to be made. If you have weapons, ammo, or canned goods to trade.

I'm opening Deathclaw hooters.
[Fark user image 425x486]

STOP MAKING ME FEEL THINGS I CAN'T EXPLAIN


no lol
 
Shaggy_C
2023-02-01 3:38:02 PM  

TommyDeuce: Lab grown meat.

/In the works already


I'm a vegetarian and I'm in full support of this. "Meat" itself isn't the problem - while I find eating bloody flesh largely repulsive, if you can take away the environmental impact and widespread animal suffering there's nothing inherently wrong with it as a food source. At that point it just becomes "stop liking what I don't like" which is a totally different conversation than "you're destroying the environment and supporting a brutally evil industry."
 
MattytheMouse
2023-02-01 3:40:50 PM  

Dr Dreidel: MattytheMouse: MyMindIsGoingDave: The fact that there is a book called "Investing in the Apocalypse" tells me that we have gone way to far in monetizing everything

When people tell me that "capitalism is the only thing that works," I'm just like... By what standard?! Like, we're literally looking down the barrel of a man-made extinction event, and we're dragging our feet on doing anything about it 'cause it's just not profitable. Even market-based solutions to climate change are half-measures, at best.

Sort of like when they say "socialism" killed 3-5 million people in the Holodomor.

Taking that as a given, why do we not lay at capitalism's feet those dead from lack of access to medical treatment/care (hello, insulin gougers!) or from starvation, or worked to early deaths in factories, or poisoned by the local chemical concern - or who were told/ordered to go back to work during a farking pandemic - or any number of a hundred other capitalism problems?

I have nothing to add here, other than asking the same question.

// we also don't have to take it as a given that "socialism" killed them - we can also say that it was prejudice against Ukrainians combined with a natural famine and a mismanagement of a centrally-planned economy, none of which has anything to do with workers owning the means of production (unless someone means to point to their lack of that ownership, which kinds of makes it hard to blame "socialism" at all)


Yeah, it's wild how often people look at famine, war, and genocide as being inherent to socialism or communism, but act like it's just the price of doing business when we talk about the same shiat happening under capitalism.

Like, you wanna talk canine...? Holodomor was kinda like, a perfect storm of bad events. Meanwhile, in the US, we have 5 million people living under food insecurity. Why...? Is it because we don't have enough food? No; food production is completely uncoupled from production to the point where we regularly destroy excess just to preserve market value, because we'd rather have people starve than to have the market value take a hit.
 
Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-02-01 3:40:55 PM  

MattytheMouse: MyMindIsGoingDave: The fact that there is a book called "Investing in the Apocalypse" tells me that we have gone way to far in monetizing everything

When people tell me that "capitalism is the only thing that works," I'm just like... By what standard?! Like, we're literally looking down the barrel of a man-made extinction event, and we're dragging our feet on doing anything about it 'cause it's just not profitable. Even market-based solutions to climate change are half-measures, at best.


Well, it's true. No one was alive before capitalism.
 
dailygrinds
2023-02-01 3:41:06 PM  

Underwater Bystander: Subtonic: anjin-san: [Fark user image 850x763]

We are not going to outlaw cows, AOC. Please put the chart away.

Serious question: why not? If we're talking about the viability of the entire planet then why is shrinking/removing the beef and dairy industry off the table?

/insert "sacred cow" joke here


At least half the beef products out there could be replaced with plant based alternatives and nobody would even know.
 
dailygrinds
2023-02-01 3:43:54 PM  

MattytheMouse: MyMindIsGoingDave: The fact that there is a book called "Investing in the Apocalypse" tells me that we have gone way to far in monetizing everything

When people tell me that "capitalism is the only thing that works," I'm just like... By what standard?! Like, we're literally looking down the barrel of a man-made extinction event, and we're dragging our feet on doing anything about it 'cause it's just not profitable. Even market-based solutions to climate change are half-measures, at best.


The problem is unfettered capitalism.  There is plenty of money to be made in transitioning away from fossil fuels. The problem is that the fossil fuel industry is using their money and power to resist change.
 
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