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(Politicus USA)   Krysten Sinema is about to get Fetterman-ed   (politicususa.com) divider line
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Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 8:33:33 AM  
She's so quirky, though. Maybe she should take up surfing.
 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 8:45:22 AM  
If she wants to go third party... CORRECTION: If hedge funds finance her third party run... she will probably turn that seat red pretty quickly. Even if they run that batsh*t insane "doctor" as a candidate.

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Giant Clown Shoe [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 9:06:36 AM  
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She's about to have a stroke and win anyway bc her opponent will run the campaign with the most self-owns in recent memory?
 
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 10:05:48 AM  
If Lake runs (R) and Gallegos runs (D), that leaves Sinema as a viable candidate as (I). I'm not sure policy positions are important there. I think it's more about tribalism.
 
Sorelian's Ghost [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 10:23:25 AM  
Isn't this why this reprehensible shiat became an independent in the first place?

So she could hold democrats hostage and say that if they run an actual democrat, than Kari Lake gets to be in the senate?
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 10:45:07 AM  

Sorelian's Ghost: Isn't this why this reprehensible shiat became an independent in the first place?

So she could hold democrats hostage and say that if they run an actual democrat, than Kari Lake gets to be in the senate?


You think there are Democrats left who would vote for Quirky?
 
CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:03:08 AM  
She's going to have a stroke?
 
Weaver95
2023-02-01 11:04:19 AM  
Ha.
Hahahaha.
Ha.
I like this.
 
Incog_Neeto
2023-02-01 11:05:22 AM  
Every time I read her name I get angry at myself for voting for her.
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:06:49 AM  
Fetterman crew reporting for duty.
 
Mrtraveler01
2023-02-01 11:07:08 AM  
It's like the Avengers but for political nerds.
 
tricycleracer
2023-02-01 11:08:22 AM  
Bah Gawd, King!  That's Allegheny County music!
 
whidbey
2023-02-01 11:08:49 AM  
Odd how she's never even shown up in an interview lately to explain herself, other than she's going "independent."
 
Peter von Nostrand
2023-02-01 11:09:15 AM  
Good.
 
Tax Boy
2023-02-01 11:09:45 AM  
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peterquince
2023-02-01 11:10:05 AM  
This is how we push things back to the left. Viable challenges to the right-wing part of the Democratic party.
 
jake3988 [OhFark]
2023-02-01 11:10:32 AM  

edmo: Sorelian's Ghost: Isn't this why this reprehensible shiat became an independent in the first place?

So she could hold democrats hostage and say that if they run an actual democrat, than Kari Lake gets to be in the senate?

You think there are Democrats left who would vote for Quirky?


Even if it's 1%, that's enough.

This is Arizona, not California.
 
gilgigamesh
2023-02-01 11:10:37 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: If Lake runs (R) and Gallegos runs (D), that leaves Sinema as a viable candidate as (I). I'm not sure policy positions are important there. I think it's more about tribalism.


She's very unpopular with the base, and I don't know how she wins against a party-backed candidate. No way she pulls votes from the GOP or even significantly from right-leaning "independents."

But she's the incumbent, so she can easily pull in 5 or 10% on name recognition alone and throw the race to whatever whackjob is running with an R after his name.  I think that's most likely.
 
puffy999 [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:11:24 AM  

edmo: Sorelian's Ghost: Isn't this why this reprehensible shiat became an independent in the first place?

So she could hold democrats hostage and say that if they run an actual democrat, than Kari Lake gets to be in the senate?

You think there are Democrats left who would vote for Quirky?


I keep comparing her to Betsy Johnson in Oregon, who won 8.6% of the vote with over 168k. She wasn't an incumbent US Senator, and she was able to do that. She was never going to win, but she came close enough to playing spoiler. And Oregon is definitely more blue, so luckily Betsy would have needed 12-13% IIRC to have possibly given the seat to an R.

If Sinema runs again she gets at least 10-15% of the vote and mostly they'll probably be older Democrats. In a much tighter race. And she's the type of **** who'd do that.
 
UltimaCS
2023-02-01 11:11:26 AM  

whidbey: Odd how she's never even shown up in an interview lately to explain herself, other than she's going "independent."


The entire point of being an Independent, here and otherwise, is to crap on everything and then leave without explaining. They're grumpy toddlers with a bowl of spaghetti labeled "Government."
 
Electriclectic
2023-02-01 11:11:52 AM  
It's too bad Sinema isn't a Democrat anymore, because it's been 12 hours since the last "Democrats in Disarray" on CNN.
 
iron_city_ap
2023-02-01 11:12:50 AM  
Neither one has a chance against Santos.
 
whidbey
2023-02-01 11:14:20 AM  

iron_city_ap: Neither one has a chance against Santos.


Who does? Each day he grows STRONGER.
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-02-01 11:14:29 AM  

Incog_Neeto: Every time I read her name I get angry at myself for voting for her.


You ain't the only one.  But then I remember McSally, and think just how much worse it could have been.
 
Peter von Nostrand
2023-02-01 11:14:31 AM  
Funny how "far left" democrats supported her, too, but now it's all the "far right democrats" fault.
 
Palined Parenthood [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:15:41 AM  
Arizona is a deep red state and Sinema is the best Democrat we're going to get out of them, so primary her at your own peril, Fark Progressives. And make sure you forget how she votes with the party >90% of the time and saved Obamacare while ignoring how it's actually way more Republicans standing in the way
 
SirGunslinger
2023-02-01 11:15:55 AM  
Just going to leave this here...

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RewardedAsATraitorDeserves
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-02-01 11:16:14 AM  
A union buster? Pass.
 
gilgigamesh
2023-02-01 11:16:21 AM  

puffy999: edmo: Sorelian's Ghost: Isn't this why this reprehensible shiat became an independent in the first place?

So she could hold democrats hostage and say that if they run an actual democrat, than Kari Lake gets to be in the senate?

You think there are Democrats left who would vote for Quirky?

I keep comparing her to Betsy Johnson in Oregon, who won 8.6% of the vote with over 168k. She wasn't an incumbent US Senator, and she was able to do that. She was never going to win, but she came close enough to playing spoiler. And Oregon is definitely more blue, so luckily Betsy would have needed 12-13% IIRC to have possibly given the seat to an R.

If Sinema runs again she gets at least 10-15% of the vote and mostly they'll probably be older Democrats. In a much tighter race. And she's the type of **** who'd do that.


If anything, I think she is MORE likely to run in 24 now that Gellego is in it.

There is one common thread with her: doing whatever keeps her in the spotlight. The woman is in love with the mirror; loves negative attention.

What will draw more negative attention: quietly retiring to be a lobbyist, or running a spoiler campaign that gets Kari Lake elected to the senate?  Just the thought of the latter is probably enough to get her wet.
 
gilgigamesh
2023-02-01 11:17:53 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Arizona is a deep red state and Sinema is the best Democrat we're going to get out of them, so primary her at your own peril, Fark Progressives. And make sure you forget how she votes with the party >90% of the time and saved Obamacare while ignoring how it's actually way more Republicans standing in the way


It isn't a primary if she left the party.  She is not a Democrat. It's a question of whether the Dems run a candidate at all.

/the best kind of correct
 
whidbey
2023-02-01 11:18:05 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Funny how "far left" democrats supported her, too, but now it's all the "far right democrats" fault.


Well yeah, we all thought she was going to be this enthusiastic supporter of what Biden wanted to do.

And I do blame the Senate leadership for not sending the message that her actions really f*cked shiat up.

Yeah, I went there.
 
Dinjiin [BareFark]
2023-02-01 11:18:44 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: If Lake runs (R) and Gallegos runs (D), that leaves Sinema as a viable candidate as (I). I'm not sure policy positions are important there. I think it's more about tribalism.


Problem is, I suspect that Sinema will pull more votes from Gallego than Lake, leaving Lake the winner without a majority of the votes.  Even if she knows she can't win, I suspect that dark money will keep her in the race.

If Arizona Democrats were smart, they'd adopt run-off rules to ensure that doesn't happen.  I'd prefer something like Alaska's instant run-off, but Georgia's 50% + 1 rule works too.
 
UltimaCS
2023-02-01 11:18:55 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Funny how "far left" democrats supported her, too, but now it's all the "far right democrats" fault.


She ran as far-left and then swung right after getting elected. Voters would be dumb to keep supporting her, and Chuck Schumer would be dumb to keep her on committees. Guess which one is actually happening?
 
Mrtraveler01
2023-02-01 11:20:29 AM  

whidbey: Peter von Nostrand: Funny how "far left" democrats supported her, too, but now it's all the "far right democrats" fault.

Well yeah, we all thought she was going to be this enthusiastic supporter of what Biden wanted to do.

And I do blame the Senate leadership for not sending the message that her actions really f*cked shiat up.

Yeah, I went there.


Yeah, during her election she painted herself as someone way more progressive than she actually turned out to be.

So she's actually worse than Manchin in my book just because she basically lied to her own supporters.
 
Turbo Cojones
2023-02-01 11:20:43 AM  
She the one who sold her panties on FB marketplace?
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-02-01 11:21:58 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Arizona is a deep red state and Sinema is the best Democrat we're going to get out of them, so primary her at your own peril, Fark Progressives. And make sure you forget how she votes with the party >90% of the time and saved Obamacare while ignoring how it's actually way more Republicans standing in the way


She's not a Democrat any longer, quite literally.  She is, however, holding the seat hostage.  She can't actually win a three way election.  She can only make sure that the Democratic candidate loses.

So, we get a Republican, or a Republican.

Pick one.
 
anuran
2023-02-01 11:22:43 AM  

edmo: Sorelian's Ghost: Isn't this why this reprehensible shiat became an independent in the first place?

So she could hold democrats hostage and say that if they run an actual democrat, than Kari Lake gets to be in the senate?

You think there are Democrats left who would vote for Quirky?


All it takes is a couple percent. Third party vanity campaigns can swing elections. Ross Perot. Jill Stein. Teresa's Raifford here in Portland.
 
Serious Black
2023-02-01 11:23:02 AM  
Who wants to vote for Sinema now? A plurality each of Democrats, independents, and Republicans do not approve of her.
 
Cokezeroinacan
2023-02-01 11:23:21 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: Palined Parenthood: Arizona is a deep red state and Sinema is the best Democrat we're going to get out of them, so primary her at your own peril, Fark Progressives. And make sure you forget how she votes with the party >90% of the time and saved Obamacare while ignoring how it's actually way more Republicans standing in the way

She's not a Democrat any longer, quite literally.  She is, however, holding the seat hostage.  She can't actually win a three way election.  She can only make sure that the Democratic candidate loses.

So, we get a Republican, or a Republican.

Pick one.


She is just doing what those associated with the Green Party have always done best.
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-02-01 11:24:27 AM  

whidbey: Well yeah, we all thought she was going to be this enthusiastic supporter of what Biden wanted to do.


When she was elected in 2018, the choice was between her, with her decent background in state legislature and Congress (because it wasn't quite obvious yet that she was a sociopath that used group identification to advance only her career), and a complete psychotic pro Trump.  Not really much of a choice.
 
Soup4Bonnie
2023-02-01 11:25:34 AM  
I think Gallego can stuff her if he comes out aggressive and keeps punching.  She's got a shiat record and will try to steal votes from the middle by claiming bipartisanship.  Shove all that love for the Manchin-center up her ass.
 
WhiskeySticks
2023-02-01 11:25:39 AM  
Is she even going to run again? The pillow princess has already made her corporate connections for comfy living.
 
wademh
2023-02-01 11:27:01 AM  

gilgigamesh: Benevolent Misanthrope: If Lake runs (R) and Gallegos runs (D), that leaves Sinema as a viable candidate as (I). I'm not sure policy positions are important there. I think it's more about tribalism.

She's very unpopular with the base, and I don't know how she wins against a party-backed candidate. No way she pulls votes from the GOP or even significantly from right-leaning "independents."

But she's the incumbent, so she can easily pull in 5 or 10% on name recognition alone and throw the race to whatever whackjob is running with an R after his name.  I think that's most likely.


There's an outside chance she pulls some votes from "family" GOPers who were raised to oppose Democrats but have some vestige of sanity with respect to Lake. Sinema would become a 'protest vote'. Such creatures exist but I couldn't speculate on their numbers. TFG got votes from people who disapproved of him. I think Lake did too.
 
Peter von Nostrand
2023-02-01 11:27:55 AM  

UltimaCS: Peter von Nostrand: Funny how "far left" democrats supported her, too, but now it's all the "far right democrats" fault.

She ran as far-left and then swung right after getting elected. Voters would be dumb to keep supporting her, and Chuck Schumer would be dumb to keep her on committees. Guess which one is actually happening?


The guy trying to avoid Senate majority leader McConnell?
 
Mrtraveler01
2023-02-01 11:30:23 AM  

wademh: gilgigamesh: Benevolent Misanthrope: If Lake runs (R) and Gallegos runs (D), that leaves Sinema as a viable candidate as (I). I'm not sure policy positions are important there. I think it's more about tribalism.

She's very unpopular with the base, and I don't know how she wins against a party-backed candidate. No way she pulls votes from the GOP or even significantly from right-leaning "independents."

But she's the incumbent, so she can easily pull in 5 or 10% on name recognition alone and throw the race to whatever whackjob is running with an R after his name.  I think that's most likely.

There's an outside chance she pulls some votes from "family" GOPers who were raised to oppose Democrats but have some vestige of sanity with respect to Lake. Sinema would become a 'protest vote'. Such creatures exist but I couldn't speculate on their numbers. TFG got votes from people who disapproved of him. I think Lake did too.


33,000 Republican voters in Maricopa County voted for Katie Hobbs over Kari Lake. Safe to say, these would probably be the voters most likely to vote for Sinema over Gallegos.

https://www.newsweek.com/kari-lake-lost-arizona-governor-election-republican-voters-1775682
 
whidbey
2023-02-01 11:30:25 AM  

Mrtraveler01: whidbey: Peter von Nostrand: Funny how "far left" democrats supported her, too, but now it's all the "far right democrats" fault.

Well yeah, we all thought she was going to be this enthusiastic supporter of what Biden wanted to do.

And I do blame the Senate leadership for not sending the message that her actions really f*cked shiat up.

Yeah, I went there.

Yeah, during her election she painted herself as someone way more progressive than she actually turned out to be.

So she's actually worse than Manchin in my book just because she basically lied to her own supporters.


I almost hate to suggest the concept of US Senator recall because of the way the Republicans would abuse it.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:30:58 AM  
My single issue is whether a candidate drinks wine through a straw while giving me the finger, so your libfart candidate is coming up short.
 
Palined Parenthood [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:32:33 AM  
oh my bad i forgot to change manchin's state lol
 
RasIanI
2023-02-01 11:35:26 AM  

whidbey: Odd how she's never even shown up in an interview lately to explain herself, other than she's going "independent."


I think that she's well aware, at this point, that people see through her bulls***. She has spent 4 years feathering her nest, and will spend the next two figuring out the most profitable exit strategy.
 
Peter von Nostrand
2023-02-01 11:36:44 AM  

whidbey: Mrtraveler01: whidbey: Peter von Nostrand: Funny how "far left" democrats supported her, too, but now it's all the "far right democrats" fault.

Well yeah, we all thought she was going to be this enthusiastic supporter of what Biden wanted to do.

And I do blame the Senate leadership for not sending the message that her actions really f*cked shiat up.

Yeah, I went there.

Yeah, during her election she painted herself as someone way more progressive than she actually turned out to be.

So she's actually worse than Manchin in my book just because she basically lied to her own supporters.

I almost hate to suggest the concept of US Senator recall because of the way the Republicans would abuse it.


Someone suggested once an automatic recall of anyone that changes party after an election. Might be tough in the house but I could definitely see the worth in that
 
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