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(Politico)   Hostile takeover of Florida's colleges underway: "You called us racists, sexists, bigots, outsiders...We are now in a position of authority in the college. And the accusations are telling us that something is wrong here"   (politico.com) divider line
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unixpro [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 6:17:11 AM  
I weep for the children of Florida.  These schools are in danger of losing their national accreditation.  Without that, a degree from a Florida college or university will be about as useful as a degree from Drump U., but those will be the only schools they can get into with their New and Improved high school curriculum.

The Boomers must be so proud.  Of themselves.
 
Spiritual Pagan [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 6:21:56 AM  
So when does the cross burning start?
 
thecactusman17 [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 6:24:26 AM  

Spiritual Pagan: So when does the cross burning start?


It's Florida, it never ended.
 
Spiritual Pagan [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 6:25:16 AM  

thecactusman17: Spiritual Pagan: So when does the cross burning start?

It's Florida, it never ended.


Point
 
Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 6:52:48 AM  
So you're going to have a state with a populace in one of two demographics: constantly driving into the tunnel of light they don't realize is a farmers market, and; has so many Trump flags on his coal-rolling Ram 3500 he can't get enough speed up to jump it over the crocodile pond no matter how much krokodil he takes.

And, those people are going to be served by a medical infrastructure made up of people who got their degrees in Biblical Humour Adjustment with a minor in Adequate Phlogiston in Textbooks for a Real Good Fire from Florida Jesus State University & Tilt-a-Whirl Assembly College.
 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 6:56:47 AM  

unixpro: I weep for the children of Florida.  These schools are in danger of losing their national accreditation.  Without that, a degree from a Florida college or university will be about as useful as a degree from Drump U., but those will be the only schools they can get into with their New and Improved high school curriculum.

The Boomers must be so proud.  Of themselves.


Blaming just Baby Boomers for DeSantis and his fascist brethren only divides those of us who oppose racism and authoritarianism. Those born after 1964 became voters in 1992.. Millennials and Generation X combined have outnumbered Baby Boomers by tens of millions for years.

We who oppose the rise of authoritarianism in our Nation need to come together. Blaming an entire demographic for something some of its members are or enabled is counterproductive.

So, is your point simply a mistake, prejudice, lack of thoughtfulness or deliberate?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/28/millennials-overtake-baby-boomers-as-americas-largest-generation/

/By the way, DeSantis was born in 1978.
//By definition, DeSantis is a Generation X member.
 
WickerNipple [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 7:00:53 AM  
We're five minutes from #AllGenerationsMatter.
 
shastacola [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 7:10:41 AM  

unixpro: I weep for the children of Florida.  These schools are in danger of losing their national accreditation.  Without that, a degree from a Florida college or university will be about as useful as a degree from Drump U., but those will be the only schools they can get into with their New and Improved high school curriculum.

The Boomers must be so proud.  Of themselves.


The GOP won Florida with voters over 30 in 2020.
 
AdmirableSnackbar [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 7:47:08 AM  

AirForceVet: unixpro: I weep for the children of Florida.  These schools are in danger of losing their national accreditation.  Without that, a degree from a Florida college or university will be about as useful as a degree from Drump U., but those will be the only schools they can get into with their New and Improved high school curriculum.

The Boomers must be so proud.  Of themselves.

Blaming just Baby Boomers for DeSantis and his fascist brethren only divides those of us who oppose racism and authoritarianism. Those born after 1964 became voters in 1992.. Millennials and Generation X combined have outnumbered Baby Boomers by tens of millions for years.

We who oppose the rise of authoritarianism in our Nation need to come together. Blaming an entire demographic for something some of its members are or enabled is counterproductive.

So, is your point simply a mistake, prejudice, lack of thoughtfulness or deliberate?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/28/millennials-overtake-baby-boomers-as-americas-largest-generation/

/By the way, DeSantis was born in 1978.
//By definition, DeSantis is a Generation X member.


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When old assholes stop voting for fascists we will stop talking about how we keep getting fascists because old assholes are voting them into office. This isn't a "we hate Boomers so we blame them for what's happening" situation, it's a "Boomers are responsible for this shiat and we're calling them out on it" situation.

Sure, there are more younger people now. If you want opponents of authoritarians to come together, then you need the Democratic Party to stop being antagonistic to younger people's needs and start earning their votes. Otherwise Boomers will continue to run the show, because there's almost no one fighting against fascism in the Democratic Party. Hell, DeSantis' opponent was a farking Republican running as a Democrat.
 
GoldSpider
2023-02-01 7:54:04 AM  
"Some have said these recent appointments amount to a partisan takeover of the college. This is not correct,"

Now THAT'S how you gaslight.
 
GoldSpider
2023-02-01 7:55:54 AM  
"Tuesday's meeting was met with apprehension from dozens of students and parents who protested what they called a "hostile takeover" at New College."

Don't protest, leave.  Vote with your dollars.  It's that simple.
 
WickerNipple [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 7:57:12 AM  

GoldSpider: "Some have said these recent appointments amount to a partisan takeover of the college. This is not correct,"

Now THAT'S how you gaslight.


Ya know, it's been a long long time.  I guess you get one of these.

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wademh
2023-02-01 7:57:55 AM  
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eKonk
2023-02-01 7:58:17 AM  
"The campus needs a deep culture change. You sat up here, you called us racists, sexists, bigots, outsiders," said noted racist, sexist, and bigot, Mark Bauerlein, who is no longer an outsider. "We are now in a position of authority in the college. And the accusations are telling us that something is wrong here," he said, as he prepared to abuse his authority to enforce anti-intellectual racist, sexist, bigoted policies to destroy an chance students of the university have at gaining actual education rather than party indoctrination, which Bauerlein has also accused educators of in the past for daring to question lies spread by the Republican party in Florida.
 
qorkfiend
2023-02-01 8:00:49 AM  
The people of Florida have spent the last half-century electing Republicans to full control of their state. What the fark did they think was going to happen?
 
TheEdibleSnuggie [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 8:00:56 AM  
Ron DeSantis & Florida GOP:

"We've warned you for YEARS that your children were being indoctrinated in our schools.  We just misled you as to exactly WHOM was doing the indoctrination."
 
incendi [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 8:01:24 AM  

eKonk: "The campus needs a deep culture change. You sat up here, you called us racists, sexists, bigots, outsiders," said noted racist, sexist, and bigot, Mark Bauerlein, who is no longer an outsider. "We are now in a position of authority in the college. And the accusations are telling us that something is wrong here," he said, as he prepared to abuse his authority to enforce anti-intellectual racist, sexist, bigoted policies to destroy an chance students of the university have at gaining actual education rather than party indoctrination, which Bauerlein has also accused educators of in the past for daring to question lies spread by the Republican party in Florida.


It's kind of funny, once you're past the nausea. Yeah, the accusations *are* telling you something is wrong there. Sit with that for a minute, Marky Bark, let it soak in. Really marinate in that for a good long while.
 
Aquapope
2023-02-01 8:01:46 AM  
"...with the idea of overhauling the liberal arts college in Sarasota into a more conservative-leaning institution."

Imagine being a gay black kid just starting your second semester at that school.  You barely have a handle on being at college in general, and now you find out the school is providing cover for any kind of harassment, persecution, even violence that comes your way for the next 3+ years.  Do you dig in and tough it out, or run for your life.  That's an awesome decision to have to make at 18.
 
unixpro [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 8:01:54 AM  

AirForceVet: unixpro: I weep for the children of Florida.  These schools are in danger of losing their national accreditation.  Without that, a degree from a Florida college or university will be about as useful as a degree from Drump U., but those will be the only schools they can get into with their New and Improved high school curriculum.

The Boomers must be so proud.  Of themselves.

Blaming just Baby Boomers for DeSantis and his fascist brethren only divides those of us who oppose racism and authoritarianism. Those born after 1964 became voters in 1992.. Millennials and Generation X combined have outnumbered Baby Boomers by tens of millions for years.

We who oppose the rise of authoritarianism in our Nation need to come together. Blaming an entire demographic for something some of its members are or enabled is counterproductive.

So, is your point simply a mistake, prejudice, lack of thoughtfulness or deliberate?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/28/millennials-overtake-baby-boomers-as-americas-largest-generation/

/By the way, DeSantis was born in 1978.
//By definition, DeSantis is a Generation X member.


I was born in 1959.  For almost 64 years, I have watched the boomers destroy almost everything they touched.  They are, in general, selfish, thoughtless, selfish, proudly ignorant, selfish, and selfish.  These dipshiats who, danced for the planet in their teens, are now gleefully trying to flush iat all down the drain

YMMV, but those are my opinions, borne from years of trying to clean up their shiat.  I am glad they're voluntarily concentrating themselves in Florida, but I do weep for the children trying to grow up in that self-centered, willfully ignorant, hateful and spiteful environment.
 
qorkfiend
2023-02-01 8:03:58 AM  

Aquapope: "...with the idea of overhauling the liberal arts college in Sarasota into a more conservative-leaning institution."

Imagine being a gay black kid just starting your second semester at that school.  You barely have a handle on being at college in general, and now you find out the school is providing cover for any kind of harassment, persecution, even violence that comes your way for the next 3+ years.  Do you dig in and tough it out, or run for your life.  That's an awesome decision to have to make at 18.


It's a very easy decision to make.
 
Phaedrus the Vague
2023-02-01 8:04:02 AM  
This and related De Santos education BS is horrible for FL students, teachers and their families. What students or teachers will want to go to any Florida schools for the foreseeable future? Those against diversity, but fark them.
 
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier
2023-02-01 8:04:35 AM  
Of course it's Sarasota. That's a city for snowbirds who think Tampa's suburbs are too "ethnic". It has all the social pressure of The Villages but none of the property value
 
baka-san [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 8:05:11 AM  
Ah yes, ye olde " your the racist for calling my racism racist" chestnut

Fuk em all
 
odinsposse
2023-02-01 8:05:32 AM  
Florida is going to anti-woke itself to death.
 
Monkeyfark Ridiculous
2023-02-01 8:06:22 AM  

GoldSpider: "Tuesday's meeting was met with apprehension from dozens of students and parents who protested what they called a "hostile takeover" at New College."

Don't protest, leave.  Vote with your dollars.  It's that simple.


There's no point in going to a different part of the Florida system, and most are probably paying in-state tuition. Not to mention that the unusual system makes a transfer tricky.

It's a good little school and it's sad to see it get farked like this, but it isn't exactly the kind of place where everyone can just pick up their trust funds and fark off to California on a semester's notice.

That said, I would imagine they're going to find it harder to attract good students once the conversion therapy really takes hold.
 
kobrakai
2023-02-01 8:09:36 AM  

AirForceVet: Those born after 1964 became voters in 1992


Did you go to school in Florida?
 
jntaylor63
2023-02-01 8:09:48 AM  
FL farker here, my last kid graduates High School in 3 years.  Guess its time to start saving even MORE to send her out of state.

/It's getting harder and harder to FL in this state.
 
hubiestubert [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 8:10:33 AM  
So, their clever plan is to overhaul their schools in the same way that they've overhauled local government and their ability to respond to emergencies? Man, losing accreditation is a heckuva way to make a point, but hey, I'm sure that neighboring states' schools will be happy to take the overflow of students who might want actual careers.

I mean, we get it. Y'all are upset that your entire economy is based on trade with OTHER states and tourism, and y'all are beholden to the Fed for a lot of stuff, and this is a way to 'take back' a bit of control, but have y'all ever considered that maybe, just maybe, that systems were in place for a reason?

Y'all fear that immigrants are going to sully your sweet shores, with their funny ideas, but y'all have been inviting them to come on down since air conditioning made the state livable. Remember the sh*thole you were before that? Just mangroves and swamp, with stretches of fishing and swaths of land no one wanted to touch. Immigrants built your state, from other countries and other states. Heck, it took a Harvard scientist to show how to make stone crabs edible. You hate the Outside, yet, your entire real estate market is based around luring seniors and developers in for short term investment--either by pump and dump or just dying in their own condos because they're old--so you NEED new blood coming in all the time.

You want the alienated and xenophobic, and the dumb ass racist votes. We get that. They are a valuable resource in that they are reliable for gleaning every last sweet red cent from them, and maybe even going out to steal a bit more to give you them too. But there is only so far that investing in idiocy can go. At some point, you will have to actually govern and lead, and if you're leading a bunch of morons who can't keep their drawers up, then how in the heck are you supposed to face actual educated people with actual experience in markets that aren't heavily protected?

You want to live in a fishbowl. It's scary out there. But then again, your population keeps DYING because you want to recruit the most disposable of populations, then you need to replace them from somewhere. I mean, if you want to keep hiring folks from outside to do the hard stuff, we'll take your money, but at some point you might want to look to your own futures, beyond just ripping off the dumb asses and painfully gullible ignoramuses.
 
Greil
2023-02-01 8:13:54 AM  

Aquapope: "...with the idea of overhauling the liberal arts college in Sarasota into a more conservative-leaning institution."

Imagine being a gay black kid just starting your second semester at that school.  You barely have a handle on being at college in general, and now you find out the school is providing cover for any kind of harassment, persecution, even violence that comes your way for the next 3+ years.  Do you dig in and tough it out, or run for your life.  That's an awesome decision to have to make at 18.


In fairness, that's not all that different from choosing a major at 18, if we measure by experience vs impact.
 
qorkfiend
2023-02-01 8:14:45 AM  

Greil: Aquapope: "...with the idea of overhauling the liberal arts college in Sarasota into a more conservative-leaning institution."

Imagine being a gay black kid just starting your second semester at that school.  You barely have a handle on being at college in general, and now you find out the school is providing cover for any kind of harassment, persecution, even violence that comes your way for the next 3+ years.  Do you dig in and tough it out, or run for your life.  That's an awesome decision to have to make at 18.

In fairness, that's not all that different from choosing a major at 18, if we measure by experience vs impact.


Or choosing a college at all in the first place.

Also, transfers are a thing that happens all the time.
 
Marcos P
2023-02-01 8:15:11 AM  
"the new mandates from the DeSantis administration to model the school as a "Hillsdale of the South" in reference to the private conservative religious "classical" college in Michigan."

*barf*
 
karnal
2023-02-01 8:15:32 AM  
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Farkonaut
2023-02-01 8:16:49 AM  
DeSantis, Public Enemy #1
 
TabASlotB
2023-02-01 8:17:59 AM  
Those saying these schools will risk losing accreditation, don't count on it. Their model, Hillsdale College, is accredited. They'll form shop if they have to. And don't be surprised if they pull a Rand Paul and make their own accreditation body (with blackjack and hookers) if it goes sideways.
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-02-01 8:20:01 AM  
Karens have taken over the college, and they demand straight white male students only be enrolled who will be singing Jesus' praise each classroom as they learn in class the "evils" of people who have a different skin color and/or tout the Republican Party line because they got mad on people calling them out on how horrible people that they are.
 
Farkonaut
2023-02-01 8:22:13 AM  

Marcos P: "the new mandates from the DeSantis administration to model the school as a "Hillsdale of the South" in reference to the private conservative religious "classical" college in Michigan."

*barf*


....Hillsdale isn't even a well known christian school up here.. That's Cornerstone University and Aquinas those are the schools for the fundies around here.
 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 8:22:17 AM  
Trustee Matthew Spalding, a constitutional government professor and vice president at Hillsdale College's D.C. campus who was appointed by DeSantis. "It's not a takeover - it's a renewal."


Oh, so a Third Reich, if you will?

Hillsdale College... F*cking telling you, that place in the incubator for hate and the destruction of America.
 
To Wish Impossible Things
2023-02-01 8:22:32 AM  
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Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems
2023-02-01 8:22:52 AM  
I know people who attended New College. There's nothing "conservative" about it. The curriculum and style of teaching were deliberately different and trying to be new and progressive, and I don't mean pronouns and gender studies.

If you're going to change that just shut the university down and send the kids to a normal university like UCF or USF; it will no longer have any reason to exist.
 
BeesNuts
2023-02-01 8:23:08 AM  

qorkfiend: Aquapope: "...with the idea of overhauling the liberal arts college in Sarasota into a more conservative-leaning institution."

Imagine being a gay black kid just starting your second semester at that school.  You barely have a handle on being at college in general, and now you find out the school is providing cover for any kind of harassment, persecution, even violence that comes your way for the next 3+ years.  Do you dig in and tough it out, or run for your life.  That's an awesome decision to have to make at 18.

It's a very easy decision to make.


Beat feet, obviously, right?  Where to?  With what money?  To what job?  Is the kid supposed to easily decide that it is better to be *homeless* and give up their college education, at least in the short term, than attempt to endure abuse?

I'm not sure that's an easy choice for full grown adults in the majority.  People stay with crappy jobs for DECADES, after all.

I'm sure it sounds easy to you.
 
dogdaze
2023-02-01 8:23:18 AM  
It's payback to places and people that conservatives have not been able to touch until now.
 
Tax Boy
2023-02-01 8:24:26 AM  

unixpro: I weep for the children of Florida.


They knew what they were getting into when they chose to be born there. I say let 'em crash.
 
sinko swimo
2023-02-01 8:24:56 AM  

unixpro: I weep for the children of Florida.  These schools are in danger of losing their national accreditation.  Without that, a degree from a Florida college or university will be about as useful as a degree from Drump U., but those will be the only schools they can get into with their New and Improved high school curriculum.

The Boomers must be so proud.  Of themselves.


I was with you until you brought up "Boomers". Up a u ass.

The reality is attendance will become a thing of the past. Today's young people are not foolish.
 
karnal
2023-02-01 8:26:40 AM  

Tax Boy: unixpro: I weep for the children of Florida.

They knew what they were getting into when they chose to be born there. I say let 'em crash.


I've heard the same said about California.
 
GoldSpider
2023-02-01 8:29:02 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: GoldSpider: "Tuesday's meeting was met with apprehension from dozens of students and parents who protested what they called a "hostile takeover" at New College."

Don't protest, leave.  Vote with your dollars.  It's that simple.

There's no point in going to a different part of the Florida system, and most are probably paying in-state tuition. Not to mention that the unusual system makes a transfer tricky.

It's a good little school and it's sad to see it get farked like this, but it isn't exactly the kind of place where everyone can just pick up their trust funds and fark off to California on a semester's notice.

That said, I would imagine they're going to find it harder to attract good students once the conversion therapy really takes hold.


It's the only way they're going to be heard though.  I'm in regular contact with our chancellor; enrollments are the only language the college leadership is going to hear.
 
Russell_Secord
2023-02-01 8:29:03 AM  
All it takes is a few of the right kind of donors to endow a few of the right kind of chairs. They especially like the kind who teach trickle-down economics and climate-change denial science. It's even easier in a state where the government already underfunds the schools.
 
Someone Else's Alt [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 8:29:54 AM  

Spiritual Pagan: So when does the cross burning start?


Uh, you this is Florida right? The cross burning never stopped.

Up toward panhandle we have one of the only still openly operating Klan chapters, we have 7 Proud Boy chapters, America First, League of the South, Patriot Front, Storm Front, Skinhead Nation etc.

Like most places in the states, the racism and bigotry never stopped in 1964/1968, they just got better at using code around non members of their hate groups.
 
Rann Xerox [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 8:29:55 AM  

qorkfiend: Greil: Aquapope: "...with the idea of overhauling the liberal arts college in Sarasota into a more conservative-leaning institution."

Imagine being a gay black kid just starting your second semester at that school.  You barely have a handle on being at college in general, and now you find out the school is providing cover for any kind of harassment, persecution, even violence that comes your way for the next 3+ years.  Do you dig in and tough it out, or run for your life.  That's an awesome decision to have to make at 18.

In fairness, that's not all that different from choosing a major at 18, if we measure by experience vs impact.

Or choosing a college at all in the first place.

Also, transfers are a thing that happens all the time.


Out of curiosity, I should generate a report of first-year and transfers from Florida applying for the Fall 2023 term.

/Works at a university
 
Farkonaut
2023-02-01 8:30:00 AM  
Imagining this sad sweaty shiat-heel red faced in anger over the fact that people don't want to be self centered selfish assholes that perpetuate hate and a system that preys on the weak and powerless.

What a piece of shiat.
What a Coont.
 
GoldSpider
2023-02-01 8:30:30 AM  

jntaylor63: FL farker here, my last kid graduates High School in 3 years.  Guess its time to start saving even MORE to send her out of state.

/It's getting harder and harder to FL in this state.


Have you considered becoming a resident of another state?  Difficulty:  "Deep South", I get it...
 
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