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RaceDTruck [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 8:40:27 PM  
Gluing the heads onto bolts is some shady stuff, particularly on a nuclear submarine.
 
Archie Goodwin
2023-01-31 11:10:24 PM  
High time the RN brought back Rum, Sodomy and The Lash.
 
Creepy Lurker Guy [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 11:12:42 PM  

Archie Goodwin: High time the RN brought back Rum, Sodomy and The Lash.


I don't see how that would have helped in this case.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2023-01-31 11:12:52 PM  
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Nicholas D. Wolfwood [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 11:15:07 PM  
Admiral Hyman Rickover would Plotz.  And then order some keelhaulings.  And I would be cheering him on.

Yes, I know it was a British Sub.  I don't think that would matter to Rickover.  Anyone screwing around and cutting corners when it came to Naval Nuclear Power was on his shiat list - Permanently.

Guilty parties were contractors working for Babcock, formerly Babcock and Wilcox, which I believe is at its roots an American company, and which I believe works on US Navy nuclear power as well.

US Navy chain of command should be having long and uncomfortable talks with Babcock's management.  And reviewing everything they've touched for the last year or two.
 
Vlad_the_Inaner
2023-01-31 11:15:14 PM  
If you are going to make a bodge repair job, do it right

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/ there, I fixed it!
 
Archie Goodwin
2023-01-31 11:17:35 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: Archie Goodwin: High time the RN brought back Rum, Sodomy and The Lash.

I don't see how that would have helped in this case.


Fear of the lash might have caused the workers to do the job right.

A submarine is not a place to half-ass things.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2023-01-31 11:18:58 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Guilty parties were contractors working for Babcock, formerly Babcock and Wilcox, which I believe is at its roots an American company, and which I believe works on US Navy nuclear power as well.


Yep and traded on the NYSE under the ticker BW
 
IRestoreFurniture
2023-01-31 11:21:49 PM  

Archie Goodwin: Creepy Lurker Guy: Archie Goodwin: High time the RN brought back Rum, Sodomy and The Lash.

I don't see how that would have helped in this case.

Fear of the lash might have caused the workers to do the job right.

A submarine is not a place to half-ass things.


Honestly, most things should never be half assed.  Anything where half assing means potential death or serious destruction, that goes without saying.

What the actual fark were these people thinking?
 
Manfred J. Hattan
2023-01-31 11:24:05 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Guilty parties were contractors working for Babcock, formerly Babcock and Wilcox, which I believe is at its roots an American company, and which I believe works on US Navy nuclear power as well.

Yep and traded on the NYSE under the ticker BW


Different company. This is Babcock, the UK-based contractor: https://www.babcockinternational.com/investors/  BBA.L, or BCKIF for the unsponsored ADR.
 
trappedspirit
2023-01-31 11:25:32 PM  
Given enough time the problem would have been self correcting.
 
IRestoreFurniture
2023-01-31 11:27:03 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: If you are going to make a bodge repair job, do it right

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/ there, I fixed it!


Welp...CSB time.  I once sheared the head off the bolt that held on the thermostat cover on my 2004 accord due to cross threading (Different metal of bolt vs engine block)  Instead of ignoring it and gluing the head back on, which would have resulted in a huge issue, there was just enough of the bolt sticking out that I was able to grab it with a pair of vice grips and reverse the stud out.

I then had to drill and re tap the housing, but it was repaired correctly, which is more than I can say for these assclowns who were doing work on a nuclear submarine.
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-01-31 11:28:01 PM  
World's Worst (submarine captain) - Whose Line UK
Youtube k4u5xJ4r41A
 
IRestoreFurniture
2023-01-31 11:31:02 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: Vlad_the_Inaner: If you are going to make a bodge repair job, do it right

[i.ebayimg.com image 850x637]
/ there, I fixed it!

Welp...CSB time.  I once sheared the head off the bolt that held on the thermostat cover on my 2004 accord due to cross threading (Different metal of bolt vs engine block)  Instead of ignoring it and gluing the head back on, which would have resulted in a huge issue, there was just enough of the bolt sticking out that I was able to grab it with a pair of vice grips and reverse the stud out.

I then had to drill and re tap the housing, but it was repaired correctly, which is more than I can say for these assclowns who were doing work on a nuclear submarine.


*civic.  Not like it matters.  But it matters to my OCD brain.
 
baron von doodle [OhFark]
2023-01-31 11:33:27 PM  
I like how specific they were. "The reactor would not have exploded."
 
Mr. Shabooboo
2023-01-31 11:37:12 PM  

Archie Goodwin: High time the RN brought back Rum, Sodomy and The Lash.


Some sailors pay good money for those things...in part or all...
 
The Dog Ate My Homework
2023-01-31 11:37:12 PM  
I honestly had no idea the Royal Navy had Trident submarines. I learned something today.
 
olorin604
2023-01-31 11:38:58 PM  
Idiots, should have used 1000 mph tape.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2023-01-31 11:42:37 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: Red Shirt Blues: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Guilty parties were contractors working for Babcock, formerly Babcock and Wilcox, which I believe is at its roots an American company, and which I believe works on US Navy nuclear power as well.

Yep and traded on the NYSE under the ticker BW

Different company. This is Babcock, the UK-based contractor: https://www.babcockinternational.com/investors/  BBA.L, or BCKIF for the unsponsored ADR.


I stand corrected. I had assumed it was the old boiler manufacturer.
 
keldaria
2023-01-31 11:45:29 PM  

baron von doodle: I like how specific they were. "The reactor would not have exploded."


Sounds like the bolts were just to hold insulation onto a cooling pipe. Not likely a critical risk of disaster, but regardless you don't fark with submarines let alone nuclear reactors on submarines. It's dodgy shiat like that which makes you wonder what else was repaired in such a farked up manner.
 
Manfred J. Hattan
2023-01-31 11:46:59 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Manfred J. Hattan: Red Shirt Blues: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Guilty parties were contractors working for Babcock, formerly Babcock and Wilcox, which I believe is at its roots an American company, and which I believe works on US Navy nuclear power as well.

Yep and traded on the NYSE under the ticker BW

Different company. This is Babcock, the UK-based contractor: https://www.babcockinternational.com/investors/  BBA.L, or BCKIF for the unsponsored ADR.

I stand corrected. I had assumed it was the old boiler manufacturer.


Believe it or not, that's yet a separate company, called BWX Technologies. That's the old Babcock and Wilcox, but they spun the name off with the non-nuclear businesses a few years ago.
 
Gough
2023-01-31 11:47:51 PM  

olorin604: Idiots, should have used 1000 mph tape.


Don't the Brits have access to EB Green??
 
Creepy Lurker Guy [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 11:48:11 PM  

Archie Goodwin: Creepy Lurker Guy: Archie Goodwin: High time the RN brought back Rum, Sodomy and The Lash.

I don't see how that would have helped in this case.

Fear of the lash might have caused the workers to do the job right.

A submarine is not a place to half-ass things.


True, but the rum and sodomy would have cancelled that out.
 
baxterdog
2023-01-31 11:50:09 PM  
Slightly off topic but I seriously dislike the phrase, "easiest way." You'll hear it a lot in making things, especially when you have four or more people involved. IMO, the easiest way is rarely the most appropriate way while the most expensive is not either. The balance of cost, within spec, and capability are the criteria, and that balance defines the job.

There's never enough money to do it right the first time but there's always money to fix it later. (Sign seen in a supervisor's office years ago)
 
Creepy Lurker Guy [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 11:50:20 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: That's the old Babcock and Wilcox, but they spun the name off with the non-nuclear businesses a few years ago.


Babcock & Wilcox made the reactor for NS Savannah.  A few weeks ago, the reactor was removed and is now buried in Utah.
 
Mr. Shabooboo
2023-01-31 11:52:53 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Manfred J. Hattan: Red Shirt Blues: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Guilty parties were contractors working for Babcock, formerly Babcock and Wilcox, which I believe is at its roots an American company, and which I believe works on US Navy nuclear power as well.

Yep and traded on the NYSE under the ticker BW

Different company. This is Babcock, the UK-based contractor: https://www.babcockinternational.com/investors/  BBA.L, or BCKIF for the unsponsored ADR.

I stand corrected. I had assumed it was the old boiler manufacturer.


Username checks out...
 
Craw Fu
2023-01-31 11:58:02 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: I honestly had no idea the Royal Navy had Trident submarines. I learned something today.


I forwarded this article to my brother who is a civil servant working for the US Navy and his Weeners was that this was a Vangard class sub, not Trident class.  He also said that despite his lack of knowledge of Royal Navy procedures, he still finds this stoey. very unlikly.
 
IRestoreFurniture
2023-01-31 11:59:12 PM  

Craw Fu: The Dog Ate My Homework: I honestly had no idea the Royal Navy had Trident submarines. I learned something today.

I forwarded this article to my brother who is a civil servant working for the US Navy and his Weeners was that this was a Vangard class sub, not Trident class.  He also said that despite his lack of knowledge of Royal Navy procedures, he still finds this stoey. very unlikly.


Well, it's the sun so now I doubt the existence of both nuclear power and submarines.
 
I Hate You 2
2023-01-31 11:59:54 PM  
Are the contractors Russian?!
 
Craw Fu
2023-02-01 12:06:23 AM  

IRestoreFurniture: Craw Fu: The Dog Ate My Homework: I honestly had no idea the Royal Navy had Trident submarines. I learned something today.

I forwarded this article to my brother who is a civil servant working for the US Navy and his Weeners was that this was a Vangard class sub, not Trident class.  He also said that despite his lack of knowledge of Royal Navy procedures, he still finds this stoey. very unlikly.

Well, it's the sun so now I doubt the existence of both nuclear power and submarines.


Wikipedia lists Vanguard class subs as part of the Trident program, so maybe the article is technically correct.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard-class_submarine
 
sex_and_drugs_for_ian [BareFark]
2023-02-01 12:11:47 AM  
...sheared off through over-tightening
.

Is that even possible with a proper torque wrench?
 
Creepy Lurker Guy [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 12:16:07 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: ...sheared off through over-tightening
.

Is that even possible with a proper torque wrench?


No, but I suspect that the problem was that they didn't use a proper torque wrench.
 
keldaria
2023-02-01 12:18:05 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: ...sheared off through over-tightening
.

Is that even possible with a proper torque wrench?


Yes, if you are using the tool improperly or if you are using cheap materials...

I'm not sure either of those explanations make this less problematic than some idiot cranking down on it with an impact wrench.
 
wildcardjack
2023-02-01 12:23:17 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: Manfred J. Hattan: Red Shirt Blues: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Guilty parties were contractors working for Babcock, formerly Babcock and Wilcox, which I believe is at its roots an American company, and which I believe works on US Navy nuclear power as well.

Yep and traded on the NYSE under the ticker BW

Different company. This is Babcock, the UK-based contractor: https://www.babcockinternational.com/investors/  BBA.L, or BCKIF for the unsponsored ADR.

I stand corrected. I had assumed it was the old boiler manufacturer.


Everything outside the nuclear pressure system is pretty much stock steam equipment.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2023-02-01 12:25:27 AM  

keldaria: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: ...sheared off through over-tightening
.

Is that even possible with a proper torque wrench?

Yes, if you are using the tool improperly or if you are using cheap materials...

I'm not sure either of those explanations make this less problematic than some idiot cranking down on it with an impact wrench.


Hey, it was Friday at 4:30......who wants to look for tools when we're sneaking out early in 15 minutes?
 
baron von doodle [OhFark]
2023-02-01 12:26:38 AM  

keldaria: baron von doodle: I like how specific they were. "The reactor would not have exploded."

Sounds like the bolts were just to hold insulation onto a cooling pipe. Not likely a critical risk of disaster, but regardless you don't fark with submarines let alone nuclear reactors on submarines. It's dodgy shiat like that which makes you wonder what else was repaired in such a farked up manner.


I meant that nuclear reactors don't tend to explode regardless.
 
dobro
2023-02-01 12:32:37 AM  
"bodged"???
 
Archie Goodwin
2023-02-01 12:36:48 AM  

dobro: "bodged"???

verb

INFORMAL - BRITISH

make or repair (something) badly or clumsily.
 
Lady J [recently expired TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 12:42:53 AM  

Archie Goodwin: dobro: "bodged"???

verb INFORMAL - BRITISH

make or repair (something) badly or clumsily.


or just generally half ass something

dodgy building company or similar often referred to as Bodge & Leggit
 
SumoJeb [OhFark]
2023-02-01 12:43:32 AM  
at least use jb weld
 
sex_and_drugs_for_ian [BareFark]
2023-02-01 12:46:30 AM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: ...sheared off through over-tightening
.

Is that even possible with a proper torque wrench?

No, but I suspect that the problem was that they didn't use a proper torque wrench.


I'm not an adherent of using torque wrenches, generally, but this wasn't a '72 Camaro they were working on, ffs.
 
mistahtom
2023-02-01 12:47:56 AM  
Oh Sun, you're so there.

/SeemsLegit
 
SeaMan Stainz
2023-02-01 1:06:26 AM  
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Yoeman
2023-02-01 1:22:54 AM  
I was a wrench on J52's back in my USMC days (jet powerplants). If I had attempted some half-assed repairs like that, ANYWHERE on one of them, I would have ended up in the brig, and probably with a dishonorable discharge. This is absolutely mind boggling. This sounds like a very high level repair/maintenance facility, wow, just wow....
 
MythDragon
2023-02-01 1:27:57 AM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: Archie Goodwin: High time the RN brought back Rum, Sodomy and The Lash.

I don't see how that would have helped in this case.


I don't see how it would have hurt...
 
mr_fulano
2023-02-01 1:43:02 AM  
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Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 1:53:36 AM  
A Navy source said he was furious Babcock, one of the UK's biggest defence contractors, failed to come clean with the Navy.

If contractors half-assing stuff and lying about it makes him angry, dude is in for a career spent in paroxysms of rage.
 
leeksfromchichis [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 2:03:44 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: A Navy source said he was furious Babcock, one of the UK's biggest defence contractors, failed to come clean with the Navy.

If contractors half-assing stuff and lying about it makes him angry, dude is in for a career spent in paroxysms of rage.


You kinda half to be in a constant state of rage to be a sailor.  The sea, she scary
 
jackandwater
2023-02-01 3:32:55 AM  
Avon, ohio...duct tape capital of the world.  It is west of Cleveland.  My friend calls it (duct tape) West Virginia Chrome.
 
kb7rky
2023-02-01 4:35:28 AM  
Duct Tape - 100MPH Tape - Flex Tape - Gorilla Tape

Duct Tape/100MPH Tape - For when it moves, and it shouldn't. Also great for patching bullet holes in aircraft.

Flex Tape - Essentially silicone sealer with a duct tape carrier. Damn good stuff.

Gorilla Tape - Sticks to everything, except what it's supposed to.
 
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