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(Leicester Mercury)   Meat lover gives honest opinion after going plant-based for Veganuary   (leicestermercury.co.uk) divider line
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640 clicks; posted to Food » on 31 Jan 2023 at 11:41 PM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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olorin604
2023-01-31 11:42:50 PM  
Willing to go vegetarian, vegan is a hard no.
 
Be polite walk on the right
2023-01-31 11:52:51 PM  
My food sh*ts on your food.

/meatatarean
 
TwowheelinTim [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 12:38:50 AM  

olorin604: Willing to go vegetarian, vegan is a hard no.


I had a friend who was dabbling in the vegan world and she tried to drag me into it by cooking me a vegan dinner one evening. It tasted fine and was wholly satiating, but when I read some of the *extensive* ingredients lists on the packages of what she was serving I realized this crap is just more highly processed junk food. F*ck that sh*t.
 
olrasputin
2023-02-01 12:42:08 AM  
Didn't make it to the punchline because I closed the tab at the part where they hit up TikTok and YouTube for primary research on ways to get enough protein while lifting weights...

Because obviously when one wants to test out a radically different diet for a month, it's best to change a few other major variables at the same time.
 
drjekel_mrhyde
2023-02-01 3:10:34 AM  
Did they lose the weight?
 
FriarReb98 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-02-01 3:41:19 AM  

TwowheelinTim: olorin604: Willing to go vegetarian, vegan is a hard no.

I had a friend who was dabbling in the vegan world and she tried to drag me into it by cooking me a vegan dinner one evening. It tasted fine and was wholly satiating, but when I read some of the *extensive* ingredients lists on the packages of what she was serving I realized this crap is just more highly processed junk food. F*ck that sh*t.


Good to know. Makes me feel better about dismissing soy-based foods out of hand just because my kidneys are REALLY good at turning the oxalates in beans into kidney stones.
 
aerojockey [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 4:06:32 AM  
FTFA: test of my mental toughness

If your idea of mental toughness is eating fake meat for a month, you have a really weak mind.

For a real challenge that befits your mental fortitude, try playing Minesweeper on Medium.
 
aerojockey [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 4:19:36 AM  

TwowheelinTim: olorin604: Willing to go vegetarian, vegan is a hard no.

I had a friend who was dabbling in the vegan world and she tried to drag me into it by cooking me a vegan dinner one evening. It tasted fine and was wholly satiating, but when I read some of the *extensive* ingredients lists on the packages of what she was serving I realized this crap is just more highly processed junk food. F*ck that sh*t.


I actually wonder if something like an 80% vegan diet (like 4 out of 5 meals) is psychologically easier to manage and keep healthy.  I have a vegan friend who eats a lot of fake meat and fake cheese and fake dairy.  As far as I can tell she doesn't ever eat, like, vegetables.  Or even pasta.  (In fairness, she is vegan more for animal welfare reasons than health reasons.  Still.)

I feel like once you've decided that fake meat is in, your perspective is likely to be "I'm good", and you'll make no effort to eat actual healthy things.

Whenever I am in the mood for a vegan or vegetarian meal, I'll make something based on vegetables or beans.  Often a salad, vegan chili is another fave.  I do that maybe 1 out 15 meals, but I wouldn't have too much trouble upping that to 3 out of 5 or so.  (The hard part would be coming to terms with how boring it is to cook vegetables.)  Long as I know I'm not done with meat and dairy forever it's easy to eschew it for the majority of meals.
 
Oneiros [OhFark]
2023-02-01 6:49:14 AM  

aerojockey: I actually wonder if something like an 80% vegan diet (like 4 out of 5 meals) is psychologically easier to manage and keep healthy.  I have a vegan friend who eats a lot of fake meat and fake cheese and fake dairy.  As far as I can tell she doesn't ever eat, like, vegetables.  Or even pasta.  (In fairness, she is vegan more for animal welfare reasons than health reasons.  Still.)

I feel like once you've decided that fake meat is in, your perspective is likely to be "I'm good", and you'll make no effort to eat actual healthy things.

Whenever I am in the mood for a vegan or vegetarian meal, I'll make something based on vegetables or beans.  Often a salad, vegan chili is another fave.  I do that maybe 1 out 15 meals, but I wouldn't have too much trouble upping that to 3 out of 5 or so.  (The hard part would be coming to terms with how boring it is to cook vegetables.)  Long as I know I'm not done with meat and dairy forever it's easy to eschew it for the majority of meals.


Mark Bittman (NYT food writer) was pushing his 'VB6' diet... "vegan before 6pm".  Basically, vegan breakfast and lunch, then you could eat whatever for dinner.  He had a couple of books on it, I think.

My most difficult part would be giving up eggs.  I use flax when baking cookies, but they're just damned useful.  I even use coconut milk when making French toast, but I'm not going to bean water.  I like beans, but I don't want my French toast tasting like them.

/although, I have been eating fewer eggs with the stupid prices lately
//also did most of the Friday cooking for my neighbors during Lent
///they were the Catholic ones, but also the ones who complained about the lack of meat
////made a lot of stir-fries.  And pasta primavera.  And paella type dishes with edamame
 
kittyhas1000legs [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 7:20:56 AM  
I don't mind vegan food so long as it's honest about what it is. Curry, soups, stir fry, salads, etc are all good, but highly processed extruded protein paste with hydrolyzed whatever just doesn't seem appealing to me.

What's worse is listening to evangelical vegans like my in-laws. My FIL once actually told my wife that she hadn't "seen the light".
 
saywhonow
2023-02-01 8:54:10 AM  
If someone is vegan and does CrossFit, which one do you think they have to announce to you first?
 
Chainsaw Turd Elf
2023-02-01 10:51:33 AM  
I stopped eating any meat/dairy, besides occasionally fish and eggs in November 2021, due to my high cholesterol, high blood pressure and bouts o' the gouts. I rarely eat fake meat. I may use the fake cheese sometimes. I eat well and diverse dishes, but I enjoy cooking. I get my protein from beans, tofu/soy, chickpeas and lentils. Chickpeas and lentils make surprisingly good meat substitutes. I use soy curls as a chicken substitute in pot pies and chick'n n dumplings, which are both amazing - the key is to hydrate them in Better than Bullion not-chicken broth. I use TVP or Textured Vegetable Protein, basically soy flour, to make my own burger patties. For those, you want to make them pretty thin because they are really dense. Stir Fry is a staple with the one fake meat we eat regularly being Trader Joe's vegan Beef Bulgogi. I use cookbooks from America's Text Kitchen, The Minimalist Baker and Thee Burger Dude. Tonight, I am making potato enchiladas which are super good. We do keep some frozen plant based pizzas and other store bought snacks in the freezer for when I'm feeling lazy. in conclusion, if you decide to try plant based, you really need to get the various Better than Bouillon vegan bases - chicken, beef and vegetable.
 
SoCalChris
2023-02-01 11:20:16 AM  
I enjoy a lot of vegetarian items, and am happy to have the option there. For example, the Beyond Taco from Del Taco is great, I much prefer it over one of their regular tacos. Or mushroom burgers. Or even tofu.

But for the love of god, don't try to make it look and taste like meat. It's not. It never will be. Just enjoy it for what it is and let it be its own thing.
 
luna1580 [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:34:48 AM  

olrasputin: Didn't make it to the punchline because I closed the tab at the part where they hit up TikTok and YouTube for primary research on ways to get enough protein while lifting weights...

Because obviously when one wants to test out a radically different diet for a month, it's best to change a few other major variables at the same time.


we found another british CLAIRE?
 
cocozilla
2023-02-01 11:40:00 AM  
I just tried making meatballs using the impossible Burger ground beef and they actually tasted really good. And I used garden crumbles for my lasagna. Vegetarian is actually pretty easy and doable. I can make some really good vegan food but giving up cheese is pretty much impossible for me.
 
Oneiros [OhFark]
2023-02-01 11:41:18 AM  

luna1580: olrasputin: Didn't make it to the punchline because I closed the tab at the part where they hit up TikTok and YouTube for primary research on ways to get enough protein while lifting weights...

Because obviously when one wants to test out a radically different diet for a month, it's best to change a few other major variables at the same time.

we found another british CLAIRE?


There was no mention of vegan Mayo that I saw.

I didn't make it to the end, though
 
luna1580 [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 11:46:45 AM  

Oneiros: luna1580: olrasputin: Didn't make it to the punchline because I closed the tab at the part where they hit up TikTok and YouTube for primary research on ways to get enough protein while lifting weights...

Because obviously when one wants to test out a radically different diet for a month, it's best to change a few other major variables at the same time.

we found another british CLAIRE?

There was no mention of vegan Mayo that I saw.

I didn't make it to the end, though


well it's a female powerlifter who loved noshing on fake meat batter dipped sausages......perhaps she dipped them in vegan mayo but merely thought that went without saying?

also, doesn't 120g of protein/day seem extremely high? even if one is lifting "very heavy weights"?
 
olrasputin
2023-02-01 12:31:33 PM  

Oneiros: luna1580: olrasputin: Didn't make it to the punchline because I closed the tab at the part where they hit up TikTok and YouTube for primary research on ways to get enough protein while lifting weights...

Because obviously when one wants to test out a radically different diet for a month, it's best to change a few other major variables at the same time.

we found another british CLAIRE?

There was no mention of vegan Mayo that I saw.

I didn't make it to the end, though


Maybe the vegan mayo was implied. Brits can be subtle like that.

/shrug
 
talkyournonsense
2023-02-01 12:38:43 PM  

luna1580: Oneiros: luna1580: olrasputin: Didn't make it to the punchline because I closed the tab at the part where they hit up TikTok and YouTube for primary research on ways to get enough protein while lifting weights...

Because obviously when one wants to test out a radically different diet for a month, it's best to change a few other major variables at the same time.

we found another british CLAIRE?

There was no mention of vegan Mayo that I saw.

I didn't make it to the end, though

well it's a female powerlifter who loved noshing on fake meat batter dipped sausages......perhaps she dipped them in vegan mayo but merely thought that went without saying?

also, doesn't 120g of protein/day seem extremely high? even if one is lifting "very heavy weights"?


It's .65-1 gram of protein for every pound a person weighs depending on the exercise. So if she weights over 120 that is the correct amount of protein for recomposition or muscle building.

(I power lifted with a personal trainer for 2 years, he is also a competitive power lifter and strong man, this was his advice and it is easily verifiable online)
 
luna1580 [TotalFark]
2023-02-01 12:42:09 PM  

talkyournonsense: luna1580: Oneiros: luna1580: olrasputin: Didn't make it to the punchline because I closed the tab at the part where they hit up TikTok and YouTube for primary research on ways to get enough protein while lifting weights...

Because obviously when one wants to test out a radically different diet for a month, it's best to change a few other major variables at the same time.

we found another british CLAIRE?

There was no mention of vegan Mayo that I saw.

I didn't make it to the end, though

well it's a female powerlifter who loved noshing on fake meat batter dipped sausages......perhaps she dipped them in vegan mayo but merely thought that went without saying?

also, doesn't 120g of protein/day seem extremely high? even if one is lifting "very heavy weights"?

It's .65-1 gram of protein for every pound a person weighs depending on the exercise. So if she weights over 120 that is the correct amount of protein for recomposition or muscle building.

(I power lifted with a personal trainer for 2 years, he is also a competitive power lifter and strong man, this was his advice and it is easily verifiable online)


thank you for explaining the ratios.
 
Oneiros [OhFark]
2023-02-01 12:51:46 PM  

luna1580: also, doesn't 120g of protein/day seem extremely high? even if one is lifting "very heavy weights"?


This calculator says no:

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/calpro.htm

... but I didn't check to see if they were also trying to sell me supplements
 
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