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(NFL)   Don't worry, Niners fans. He suffered a torn UCL, but there's a Purdy good chance Brock will be back in time for a full blown QB controversy this summer   (nfl.com) divider line
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2023-01-31 9:42:14 AM  
Brace yourself, this WILL be the quarterback battle come training camp.
 
2023-01-31 9:46:14 AM  
He will be back right when Trey gets hurt
 
2023-01-31 10:03:51 AM  
I had to have surgery to release my ulnar nerve years ago... it was a f*cking b*tch beforehand. Could not even grab utensils to eat...

I have no idea what a complete tear is like. Man... I hope he can come back to full strength because in that system, with that team, he was looking fantastic.
 
2023-01-31 10:03:54 AM  
It's a year and a half injury if he gets surgery.  The doctors are recommending it.
 
2023-01-31 10:16:37 AM  
UCL. There's one I haven't injured.

Yet.
 
2023-01-31 10:39:28 AM  

mattgsx: Kornchex: It's a year and a half injury if he gets surgery.  The doctors are recommending it.

Purdy is seeking a second opinion, but the initial hope is he can undergo a repair -- not a reconstruction, commonly known as Tommy John surgery -- and will be ready for training camp.

If Purdy can have the UCL repaired and avoid reconstruction, the standard timeline for return is six months, giving him a chance to return near the start of 2023 training camp, per Pelissero.


Quoting whoopsie, but TFA states initial prognosis is a repair vs. full reconstruction.
 
2023-01-31 10:48:06 AM  
Well, he should have a pretty good career on the motivational speaker circuit.
 
2023-01-31 10:57:01 AM  
If Purdy can come back 100%, there's no controversy, he's the starter.

That's a big, big if.

Also, if he isn't back until mid-season and Lance looks good, that might change things.
 
2023-01-31 11:00:30 AM  
So he might get written off as too injured to continue to perform at the level of an NFL starting QB? Let's hope he ain't write back.
 
2023-01-31 11:04:27 AM  
Tommy John surgery usually means a year off from playing, unless the recovery time is different for football. Different arm motion for throwing a football than a baseball, but being able to grip the ball is what's important.
 
2023-01-31 11:05:54 AM  

kdawg7736: Brace yourself, this WILL be the quarterback battle come training camp.


I certainly hope so. The 49ers have done one thing pretty consistently for the last decade or so, and that is generate QB controversy.
 
2023-01-31 11:10:17 AM  
We're gonna wake up one morning and the headline's gonna be, "Tom Brady signs with the Niners."
 
2023-01-31 11:16:30 AM  

b0rg9: We're gonna wake up one morning and the headline's gonna be, "Tom Brady signs with the Niners."


"Sawdust filled-corpse of Tom Brady re-signs with the Belichik computer virus to take control of the remnants of the Northeastern wastelands" - Headline from 2167
 
2023-01-31 11:20:04 AM  
That's seriously a real bummer for a guy who seemed poised to be the number one for the Niners next season. I really hope it works out for him and that he can get it all fixed up and good to go in the shortest possible time frame.
 
2023-01-31 11:24:19 AM  

b0rg9: We're gonna wake up one morning and the headline's gonna be, "Tom Brady signs with the Niners."


Lance has no trade value and is injury prone
Jimmy gonna cost too much
Purdy, who had basically sealed the job, obv is a real shot to miss the season.

it is completely reasonable to see the 49ers making a run at Tom, or vice versa.  hometown boy aside, Brady isn't going to go to some 6-10 schlub team for what could be his final year.  The 49ers make perfect sense.
 
2023-01-31 11:25:06 AM  
Same problem the Eagles had a couple years ago, now both of those guys are gone.

Miami needs a replacement for Tua, who should retire early if he wants to know what his 30's are like. We have receivers, too. We'll take whoever SF casts off.
 
2023-01-31 11:26:10 AM  

rickythepenguin: b0rg9: We're gonna wake up one morning and the headline's gonna be, "Tom Brady signs with the Niners."

Lance has no trade value and is injury prone
Jimmy gonna cost too much
Purdy, who had basically sealed the job, obv is a real shot to miss the season.

it is completely reasonable to see the 49ers making a run at Tom, or vice versa.  hometown boy aside, Brady isn't going to go to some 6-10 schlub team for what could be his final year.  The 49ers make perfect sense.


It's really a question of recovery time. If Purdy is expected to be back for most of the season, I bet they stick with Lance and bring in a clipboard holder to back him up.

If Purdy's return is more of a question, Brady could happen.
 
2023-01-31 11:28:43 AM  

H31N0US: Miami needs a replacement for Tua, who should retire early if he wants to know what his 30's are like. We have receivers, too. We'll take whoever SF casts off.


yeah, that was pretty disturbing to hear, just what, 3-4 days ago, that he's still in the protocol.  You really gotta wonder what his people are telling him.  one more hit, and as you said, he won't remember his name in 5 years.
 
2023-01-31 11:32:04 AM  

germ78: Tommy John surgery usually means a year off from playing, unless the recovery time is different for football. Different arm motion for throwing a football than a baseball, but being able to grip the ball is what's important.


Sounds like they are hopeful it can be a simple repair vs a full reconstruction, which would put recovery at about 6 months.

If they have to do a full reconstruction, it would put him out of commission until 2024 for sure, assuming no complications or nerve damage.
 
2023-01-31 11:34:46 AM  

rickythepenguin: b0rg9: We're gonna wake up one morning and the headline's gonna be, "Tom Brady signs with the Niners."

Lance has no trade value and is injury prone
Jimmy gonna cost too much
Purdy, who had basically sealed the job, obv is a real shot to miss the season.

it is completely reasonable to see the 49ers making a run at Tom, or vice versa.  hometown boy aside, Brady isn't going to go to some 6-10 schlub team for what could be his final year.  The 49ers make perfect sense.


Jimmy is a UFA.
 
2023-01-31 11:35:30 AM  
Ouch! How the fark did he manage to play the rest of the game (after his backup got concussed)? He must've been in an absurd amount of pain. Personally, it would've been a hoot to see McCaffrey or Kyle whatever his name is play QB.

I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.
 
2023-01-31 11:38:54 AM  
For everyone ready to crown Purdy, I've got Derek Anderson right here.  The Niners haven't invested what they have in Lance to give up on him yet.  What this does do is tank the market even more for Jimmy Gesus, now that they really have no need for him as the designated clipboard holder.
 
2023-01-31 11:39:33 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Jimmy is a UFA.


Well the trade market's dead, then.
 
2023-01-31 11:39:50 AM  
That just sucks.  The kid has started what, 6 games?  The only upside I can think of is that the throwing mechanics for a QB and a pitcher are completely different so it might not make a huge impact on his play.
 
2023-01-31 11:40:05 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Jimmy is a UFA.


yeah, and he's gonna be too expensive and let's call it what it is, he hasn't really been all that great of a QB.  i mean yes, he's gone to the playoffs but it seems like its almost despite his play.  and he's got injury history too.

Lance.......I just don't know.  the most dangerous word in the NFL is "potential".  at some point you have to call a player who he is.  Lance got the benefit of "small sample size, lotta potential" but, he's shown us who is, to paraphrase Bill Parcells (who stole the quote from Maya ANgelou;  "once a player shows you who he is....don't argue with him.")

and I just can't see Shanahan hitching his wagon to Lance again.
 
2023-01-31 11:46:15 AM  

BrianGriffin: I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.


some dude was on Jim Rome show yesterday saying precisely that.  "has there even been a more unlucky coach than Shanahan?  every season he's been in Santa Clara, he loses his #1 QB.  then Sunday, he ends up playing the 4th string / emergency QB, who, no disrespect, looked like he had no idea how to run the offense.

"I'm not joking when I say this - i've seen people criticize Shanahan for those long huddles when they were down.  I really, really think, they were just making up plays in the huddle.  the QB didn't look like he knew what plays to run, and can you blame him?  It is just speculation, but, I wonder if they were playing sandlot football, drawing up plays on the fly."
 
2023-01-31 11:46:59 AM  

rickythepenguin: H31N0US: Miami needs a replacement for Tua, who should retire early if he wants to know what his 30's are like. We have receivers, too. We'll take whoever SF casts off.

yeah, that was pretty disturbing to hear, just what, 3-4 days ago, that he's still in the protocol.  You really gotta wonder what his people are telling him.  one more hit, and as you said, he won't remember his name in 5 years.


And here I thought Tua's weakness was gonna be the fact that both of his ankles had to be bolted back together before he left college. The guys body is a mess.
 
2023-01-31 11:54:18 AM  

rickythepenguin: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Jimmy is a UFA.

yeah, and he's gonna be too expensive and let's call it what it is, he hasn't really been all that great of a QB.  i mean yes, he's gone to the playoffs but it seems like its almost despite his play.  and he's got injury history too.

Lance.......I just don't know.  the most dangerous word in the NFL is "potential".  at some point you have to call a player who he is.  Lance got the benefit of "small sample size, lotta potential" but, he's shown us who is, to paraphrase Bill Parcells (who stole the quote from Maya ANgelou;  "once a player shows you who he is....don't argue with him.")

and I just can't see Shanahan hitching his wagon to Lance again.


Considering how well that worked with his dad and RGIII, I would tend to agree.

The good news is, SF has gone through so many starters the last few years, the league is littered with QBs who know the offense that are riding the bench on cheap backup contracts and wouldn't take much to get back.
 
2023-01-31 11:59:04 AM  

BrianGriffin: Ouch! How the fark did he manage to play the rest of the game (after his backup got concussed)? He must've been in an absurd amount of pain. Personally, it would've been a hoot to see McCaffrey or Kyle whatever his name is play QB.

I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.


I believe McCaffrey did take at least one snap.
 
2023-01-31 12:02:34 PM  

germ78: Tommy John surgery usually means a year off from playing, unless the recovery time is different for football. Different arm motion for throwing a football than a baseball, but being able to grip the ball is what's important.


Delhomme had Tommy John surgery about two years before his Very Bad Day, and there was a bit of his arm speed he never got back.  It led to some throws not having the necessary zip to thread the needle.
 
2023-01-31 12:06:58 PM  
As somebody who went to NDSU, I'm hoping Trey gets healthy, and doesn't get in his own head like Wentz did...
 
2023-01-31 12:12:27 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: The Niners haven't invested what they have in Lance to give up on him yet.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Fallacy_effect
 
2023-01-31 12:13:22 PM  

rickythepenguin: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Jimmy is a UFA.

yeah, and he's gonna be too expensive and let's call it what it is, he hasn't really been all that great of a QB.  i mean yes, he's gone to the playoffs but it seems like its almost despite his play.  and he's got injury history too.

Lance.......I just don't know.  the most dangerous word in the NFL is "potential".  at some point you have to call a player who he is.  Lance got the benefit of "small sample size, lotta potential" but, he's shown us who is, to paraphrase Bill Parcells (who stole the quote from Maya ANgelou;  "once a player shows you who he is....don't argue with him.")

and I just can't see Shanahan hitching his wagon to Lance again.


I don't think we've seen enough of Lance to know he can't play.

We may have seen enough of him to know he can't stay healthy.
 
2023-01-31 12:20:15 PM  
Cinderella story... and then midnight.

I hope that guy can battle back.
 
2023-01-31 12:21:12 PM  

Dafatone: rickythepenguin: b0rg9: We're gonna wake up one morning and the headline's gonna be, "Tom Brady signs with the Niners."

Lance has no trade value and is injury prone
Jimmy gonna cost too much
Purdy, who had basically sealed the job, obv is a real shot to miss the season.

it is completely reasonable to see the 49ers making a run at Tom, or vice versa.  hometown boy aside, Brady isn't going to go to some 6-10 schlub team for what could be his final year.  The 49ers make perfect sense.

It's really a question of recovery time. If Purdy is expected to be back for most of the season, I bet they stick with Lance and bring in a clipboard holder to back him up.

If Purdy's return is more of a question, Brady could happen.


Considering how many Brady backups have started for SF, this would make sense.
 
2023-01-31 12:23:09 PM  

The Smails Kid: BrianGriffin: Ouch! How the fark did he manage to play the rest of the game (after his backup got concussed)? He must've been in an absurd amount of pain. Personally, it would've been a hoot to see McCaffrey or Kyle whatever his name is play QB.

I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.

I believe McCaffrey did take at least one snap.


McCaffrey should have been the QB for the second half. Purdy couldn't throw, why not have a football player (a QB who can't throw isn't) on the field to help with blocking and confusing the defense? They still would have lost, but I don't understand trotting Purdy out there after it became clear he couldn't pass.
 
2023-01-31 12:37:54 PM  

rickythepenguin: b0rg9: We're gonna wake up one morning and the headline's gonna be, "Tom Brady signs with the Niners."

Lance has no trade value and is injury prone
Jimmy gonna cost too much
Purdy, who had basically sealed the job, obv is a real shot to miss the season.

it is completely reasonable to see the 49ers making a run at Tom, or vice versa.  hometown boy aside, Brady isn't going to go to some 6-10 schlub team for what could be his final year.  The 49ers make perfect sense.


Jimmy gonna cost too much but Brady isn't?

Brady may want to go to the 49ers but they shouldn't want him. He looked absolutely cooked by the end of this year
 
2023-01-31 12:43:51 PM  

youngandstupid: The Smails Kid: BrianGriffin: Ouch! How the fark did he manage to play the rest of the game (after his backup got concussed)? He must've been in an absurd amount of pain. Personally, it would've been a hoot to see McCaffrey or Kyle whatever his name is play QB.

I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.

I believe McCaffrey did take at least one snap.

McCaffrey should have been the QB for the second half. Purdy couldn't throw, why not have a football player (a QB who can't throw isn't) on the field to help with blocking and confusing the defense? They still would have lost, but I don't understand trotting Purdy out there after it became clear he couldn't pass.


McCaffrey didn't know the offensive play calls and protections as he hadn't had any practice reps for the week at the QB position. McCaffrey had prepared to be a Running Back and how the run the plays from that perspective. You can't just throw someone in the QB position who is a good athlete and hope for the best.  We saw that during the Covid year when the Broncos played a WR at quarterback and he had at least a practice or two at the QB position.

At least a crippled Purdy knew what play the coach was calling and how to run it from the QB position even if he couldn't throw the ball.  There was no way for San Francisco to win barring some miracle and Eagles implosion once their QBs went out.   Maybe McCaffrey could have gotten lucky, but he also would have probably absorbed more damage and have been at far more risk for bad plays (fumbles, sacks, tackles for loss) making the situation worse.
 
2023-01-31 12:44:18 PM  

mattgsx: Considering how many Brady backups have started for SF, this would make sense.


i read where it wouldn't be unreasonable to see Jimmy end up in Foxboro.

which would be amazing, if Brady ended up in Santa Clara.  ha.  the NFL would salivate at that SNF/MNF matchup.  He'll they'd make them play each other for all 17 games if they could!
 
2023-01-31 12:48:03 PM  

germ78: Tommy John surgery usually means a year off from playing, unless the recovery time is different for football. Different arm motion for throwing a football than a baseball, but being able to grip the ball is what's important.


I still can't process how a baseball player who needs TJ can still swing the bat with no restrictions/limitations.
 
2023-01-31 12:49:54 PM  

Daedalus27: youngandstupid: The Smails Kid: BrianGriffin: Ouch! How the fark did he manage to play the rest of the game (after his backup got concussed)? He must've been in an absurd amount of pain. Personally, it would've been a hoot to see McCaffrey or Kyle whatever his name is play QB.

I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.

I believe McCaffrey did take at least one snap.

McCaffrey should have been the QB for the second half. Purdy couldn't throw, why not have a football player (a QB who can't throw isn't) on the field to help with blocking and confusing the defense? They still would have lost, but I don't understand trotting Purdy out there after it became clear he couldn't pass.

McCaffrey didn't know the offensive play calls and protections as he hadn't had any practice reps for the week at the QB position. McCaffrey had prepared to be a Running Back and how the run the plays from that perspective. You can't just throw someone in the QB position who is a good athlete and hope for the best.  We saw that during the Covid year when the Broncos played a WR at quarterback and he had at least a practice or two at the QB position.

At least a crippled Purdy knew what play the coach was calling and how to run it from the QB position even if he couldn't throw the ball.  There was no way for San Francisco to win barring some miracle and Eagles implosion once their QBs went out.   Maybe McCaffrey could have gotten lucky, but he also would have probably absorbed more damage and have been at far more risk for bad plays (fumbles, sacks, tackles for loss) making the situation worse.


Hmmmm. Sounds legit. Thanks!

/not sarcasm
 
2023-01-31 1:09:01 PM  
better re-sign Jimmy G, stat
 
2023-01-31 1:20:37 PM  

rickythepenguin: BrianGriffin: I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.

some dude was on Jim Rome show yesterday saying precisely that.  "has there even been a more unlucky coach than Shanahan?  every season he's been in Santa Clara, he loses his #1 QB.  then Sunday, he ends up playing the 4th string / emergency QB, who, no disrespect, looked like he had no idea how to run the offense.

"I'm not joking when I say this - i've seen people criticize Shanahan for those long huddles when they were down.  I really, really think, they were just making up plays in the huddle.  the QB didn't look like he knew what plays to run, and can you blame him?  It is just speculation, but, I wonder if they were playing sandlot football, drawing up plays on the fly."


Counterpoint: How many teams expect to go on a 10-0 run with two playoff wins when your #1 and #2 QB go down and you suddenly find Mr. Irrelevant might be Tom Brady 2.0?  There are teams that have gone for decades in QB hell and SF stumbles into a good looking starter through sheer luck.  (And yeah, it was luck-Purdy would have been a top-7 pick, not 7th round if folks had a time machine for this season.  Nobody thought he was a starter.)

And it wasn't luck that made Shanahan put a backup tight end against the best pass rusher in the NFL.

/Hope Purdy recovers fully- he's got a lot of promise.
 
2023-01-31 1:21:58 PM  

Daedalus27: McCaffrey didn't know the offensive play calls and protections as he hadn't had any practice reps for the week at the QB position. McCaffrey had prepared to be a Running Back and how the run the plays from that perspective. You can't just throw someone in the QB position who is a good athlete and hope for the best.  We saw that during the Covid year when the Broncos played a WR at quarterback and he had at least a practice or two at the QB position.


Yeah, they really were in a no win situation at that point.  And I'm sure McCaffery got up to speed with the playbook once he was traded, but even so, he did come to the 49ers until the end of October.

I was at the game and remember watching Purdy warm up on the sideline after he initially went out.  Granted, I'm sure he wasn't using much arm strength but he didn't appear to be having difficulty throwing.  But obviously when they kept Johnson in, the injury to Purdy was serious.  Putting him back in after Johnson went down, I gotta think they were hoping he might be at least a threat for some dump off passes to at least have some of that part of the playbook available.
 
2023-01-31 1:22:42 PM  

youngandstupid: The Smails Kid: BrianGriffin: Ouch! How the fark did he manage to play the rest of the game (after his backup got concussed)? He must've been in an absurd amount of pain. Personally, it would've been a hoot to see McCaffrey or Kyle whatever his name is play QB.

I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.

I believe McCaffrey did take at least one snap.

McCaffrey should have been the QB for the second half. Purdy couldn't throw, why not have a football player (a QB who can't throw isn't) on the field to help with blocking and confusing the defense? They still would have lost, but I don't understand trotting Purdy out there after it became clear he couldn't pass.


My friend and I were making that same argument at the time. A QB that can't throw, with a torn wing that can't hang on to the ball when the other team targets it to rip the ball away, is only there to hand the ball off. He can't even run with it. Replace him with something useful, like a blocking back, or another tight end. Direct snap to McCaffrey. At least then it would have been 11 on 11.
 
2023-01-31 1:24:39 PM  

AntonChigger: rickythepenguin: H31N0US: Miami needs a replacement for Tua, who should retire early if he wants to know what his 30's are like. We have receivers, too. We'll take whoever SF casts off.

yeah, that was pretty disturbing to hear, just what, 3-4 days ago, that he's still in the protocol.  You really gotta wonder what his people are telling him.  one more hit, and as you said, he won't remember his name in 5 years.

And here I thought Tua's weakness was gonna be the fact that both of his ankles had to be bolted back together before he left college. The guys body is a mess.


You might have been right, sort of...he took a lot of hits that footwork might have prevented.

You know how some guys are able to stand in the pocket as the world collapses around them and somehow still be there in 3 seconds later to fire off 30 yards downfield (cough Marino cough)? That's all footwork. Bad ankles make that harder.

I'm no Joe Buck though, so take my theory with a grain of salt.
 
2023-01-31 1:31:19 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: rickythepenguin: BrianGriffin: I don't even like the 49ers but I felt terrible for them. Talk about being snakebit.

some dude was on Jim Rome show yesterday saying precisely that.  "has there even been a more unlucky coach than Shanahan?  every season he's been in Santa Clara, he loses his #1 QB.  then Sunday, he ends up playing the 4th string / emergency QB, who, no disrespect, looked like he had no idea how to run the offense.

"I'm not joking when I say this - i've seen people criticize Shanahan for those long huddles when they were down.  I really, really think, they were just making up plays in the huddle.  the QB didn't look like he knew what plays to run, and can you blame him?  It is just speculation, but, I wonder if they were playing sandlot football, drawing up plays on the fly."

Counterpoint: How many teams expect to go on a 10-0 run with two playoff wins when your #1 and #2 QB go down and you suddenly find Mr. Irrelevant might be Tom Brady 2.0?  There are teams that have gone for decades in QB hell and SF stumbles into a good looking starter through sheer luck.  (And yeah, it was luck-Purdy would have been a top-7 pick, not 7th round if folks had a time machine for this season.  Nobody thought he was a starter.)

And it wasn't luck that made Shanahan put a backup tight end against the best pass rusher in the NFL.

/Hope Purdy recovers fully- he's got a lot of promise.


You have a point but the best pass rusher in the NFL is on Shanahan's team.
 
2023-01-31 1:47:18 PM  

SuperChuck: Glockenspiel Hero: 

And it wasn't luck that made Shanahan put a backup tight end against the best pass rusher in the NFL.

You have a point but the best pass rusher in the NFL is on Shanahan's team.


0 sacks in 3 playoff games. Reddick has 3.5 in 2 games. And a strip sack. And a fumble recovery.
 
2023-01-31 1:58:27 PM  

youngandstupid: SuperChuck: Glockenspiel Hero: 

And it wasn't luck that made Shanahan put a backup tight end against the best pass rusher in the NFL.

You have a point but the best pass rusher in the NFL is on Shanahan's team.

0 sacks in 3 playoff games. Reddick has 3.5 in 2 games. And a strip sack. And a fumble recovery.


Heh- that's exactly what I was waiting for when I wrote that :^)

Parsons and Bosa get all the noise.  Reddick gets it done.
 
2023-01-31 2:13:39 PM  
Dafatone:

QB power draw up the middle until he gets hurt doesn't exactly make one injury prone. Especially since he was injured two years in a row the same way on the same play,

When Jimmy signed that back up contract it was only a matter of time before Kyle RGIII'd him to get his safety blanket back.

Kyle can't even manage a game as a coach let alone play call as a coordinator while being distracted as a coach. Especially when he relies on his dad Mike to help manage the organizational aspects of the team.

Kyle ain't the guy.
 
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