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(Consequence)   Rick Rubin explains why Paul McCartney is the best of all bassists. Seems like a dead argument to me   (consequence.net) divider line
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Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste
2023-01-30 9:55:00 PM  
Primus - Tommy The Cat (Official Music Video)
Youtube r4OhIU-PmB8


Les Claypool, for example, exists...

C'mon, Rick, don't be stupid. Probably wants to steal some Beatles thing and is buttering him up.
 
Straight Outta Wells Branch [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 10:19:07 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: [YouTube video: Primus - Tommy The Cat (Official Music Video)]

Les Claypool, for example, exists...

C'mon, Rick, don't be stupid. Probably wants to steal some Beatles thing and is buttering him up.


Ehh...nobody disputes that Les Claypool is a great bassist, but Primus' songs are terrible. I know that's the joke, but I find Primus to be unlistenable noodling all for the sake of noodling.

In terms of overall technical talent, Claypool wins going away. But if I'm starting a band & I want someone to hold down the groove or enhance the melodies, I'll take John Paul Jones and McCartney every time.
 
Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste
2023-01-30 10:43:26 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: [YouTube video: Primus - Tommy The Cat (Official Music Video)]

Les Claypool, for example, exists...

C'mon, Rick, don't be stupid. Probably wants to steal some Beatles thing and is buttering him up.

Ehh...nobody disputes that Les Claypool is a great bassist, but Primus' songs are terrible. I know that's the joke, but I find Primus to be unlistenable noodling all for the sake of noodling.

In terms of overall technical talent, Claypool wins going away. But if I'm starting a band & I want someone to hold down the groove or enhance the melodies, I'll take John Paul Jones and McCartney every time.


No one cares if you like Primus.
 
Sgygus [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 10:59:20 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Primus' songs are terrible


You got that right.
 
lostsatellite
2023-01-30 11:01:22 PM  
paul inverted roots in a way rock/beat band bassists hadn't, and he made countermelodies instead of just hammering root-fives. he also wrote some novel modulations that became bedrocks of pop songwriting afterwards. even other giants like elton john and billy joel owe the man their careers for his musical inventions. actual genius.
 
madgonad [OhFark]
2023-01-30 11:02:36 PM  
I might put Sting and Waters up with Paul based upon their contributions to music.
 
Yeast No 7
2023-01-30 11:05:28 PM  
Right, what's all this, then?

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Billy Liar
2023-01-30 11:09:00 PM  
Walk On
Youtube 0UXz879tCdQ
 
ZMugg [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 11:09:37 PM  

lostsatellite: paul inverted roots in a way rock/beat band bassists hadn't, and he made countermelodies instead of just hammering root-fives. he also wrote some novel modulations that became bedrocks of pop songwriting afterwards. even other giants like elton john and billy joel owe the man their careers for his musical inventions. actual genius.


Tom Gray (The Country Gentlemen and The Seldom Scene) was the same.
 
Myk-House of El [BareFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-30 11:11:36 PM  
One thing I'll say about the Rock Band games is you start to learn a lot more about what's going on in songs when you're paying attention to your part.  What I'll say as a viola player who's used to playing harmony and rhythm parts, Sir Paul's playing has a great flow to it. Logical, melodic but still doing its job.  It'd be easy to not notice if you aren't looking for it.
 
Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 11:18:38 PM  
Drive My Car (Remastered 2009)
Youtube kfSQkZuIx84

My favorite McCartney bass line.
 
10Speed
2023-01-30 11:31:49 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: [YouTube video: Primus - Tommy The Cat (Official Music Video)]

Les Claypool, for example, exists...

C'mon, Rick, don't be stupid. Probably wants to steal some Beatles thing and is buttering him up.

Ehh...nobody disputes that Les Claypool is a great bassist, but Primus' songs are terrible. I know that's the joke, but I find Primus to be unlistenable noodling all for the sake of noodling.

In terms of overall technical talent, Claypool wins going away. But if I'm starting a band & I want someone to hold down the groove or enhance the melodies, I'll take John Paul Jones and McCartney every time.


I mean, that's why Claypool had to team up with a Beatles scion to finally have a project that writes actual songs (The Lennon Claypool Delirium).

Look up McCartney's isolated bass lines, and you will hear what an inventive player he is. He comes out of the James Jamerson school; listen to his isolated track and you wouldn't even know what song it is, even though you've heard it 1,000 times. But damn if it doesn't create an essential building block of the song.

Yes, I know some moron will cite Daytripper or Taxman in an attempt to make a contrarian point. Don't bother, moron.
 
sex_and_drugs_for_ian [BareFark]
2023-01-30 11:33:12 PM  
My favorite Beatles bass isolated with my favorite Beatles drums:

The Beatles - Rain (Isolated Bass and Drums)
Youtube oUq-l81pZ3c
 
10Speed
2023-01-30 11:35:15 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Straight Outta Wells Branch: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: [YouTube video: Primus - Tommy The Cat (Official Music Video)]

Les Claypool, for example, exists...

C'mon, Rick, don't be stupid. Probably wants to steal some Beatles thing and is buttering him up.

Ehh...nobody disputes that Les Claypool is a great bassist, but Primus' songs are terrible. I know that's the joke, but I find Primus to be unlistenable noodling all for the sake of noodling.

In terms of overall technical talent, Claypool wins going away. But if I'm starting a band & I want someone to hold down the groove or enhance the melodies, I'll take John Paul Jones and McCartney every time.

No one cares if you like Primus.


Nobody cares if you do, either. But this guy knows music and how bass players fit into it. Do you?
 
10Speed
2023-01-30 11:38:34 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: My favorite Beatles bass isolated with my favorite Beatles drums:

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Have you checked out the original instrumental track? It's crazy, it's like twice the speed. What an amazing recording feat.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 11:39:08 PM  
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Rick Rubin as Bad Santa
 
ZMugg [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 11:46:59 PM  
Another:
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cretinbob [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 1:41:46 AM  
The wrong Beatle got shot
 
pacmanner
2023-01-31 1:45:19 AM  

Myk-House of El: One thing I'll say about the Rock Band games is you start to learn a lot more about what's going on in songs when you're paying attention to your part.  What I'll say as a viola player who's used to playing harmony and rhythm parts, Sir Paul's playing has a great flow to it. Logical, melodic but still doing its job.  It'd be easy to not notice if you aren't looking for it.


This is especially true playing Rocksmith. Started learning bass partially using this and you get a better understanding of how the bass is used in compositions. I have a few Beatles songs I got from Custom Forge and they are fun to play on Rocksmith.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 2:51:51 AM  

cretinbob: The wrong Beatle got shot


What are you even doing; dude?
 
Rage Against the Thorazine [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 2:58:18 AM  
But I was assured by Fark that Geddy Lee is the best bass player ever. BEST EVER.
 
mengelji [OhFark]
2023-01-31 3:52:04 AM  
Mr. Entwhistle?  Paging Mr. Entwhistle -
 
Garza and the Supermutants [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 4:09:59 AM  

mengelji: Mr. Entwhistle?  Paging Mr. Entwhistle -


Unfortunately what happened in Vegas is staying there. There's also John Paul Jones, who is still around.

Led Zep-Lemon Song-1969
Youtube 2f6T4DZG9yg
 
Pointy Tail of Satan
2023-01-31 4:25:45 AM  
Ask any famous bass player though who they consider the "best" bass player, and I will bet that a large number of them would pick Jaco Pastorius.
 
mengelji [OhFark]
2023-01-31 4:39:16 AM  
Sir Paul wishes he could play like Jack Cassidy...
Jorma Kaukonen & Jack Casady - hesitation blues
Youtube 77-vQJtbFas
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-01-31 4:41:59 AM  

cretinbob: The wrong Beatle got shot


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LewDux [OhFark]
2023-01-31 4:44:24 AM  
Paul McCartney & Rick Rubin Listen To CANNIBAL CORPSE
Youtube I3M9iYfdDzo
 
LewDux [OhFark]
2023-01-31 4:48:20 AM  

Billy Liar: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/0UXz879tCdQ]


Nah, before Paul there was nothing
 
stoli n coke
2023-01-31 5:21:46 AM  

433: cretinbob: The wrong Beatle got shot

What are you even doing; dude?


Trying to show that he's edgy and kewl.
 
Nana's Vibrator
2023-01-31 6:05:59 AM  

stoli n coke: 433: cretinbob: The wrong Beatle got shot

What are you even doing; dude?

Trying to show that he's edgy and kewl.


Nah, he just really hates Ringo.  He has a blog about it.
 
Marcos P
2023-01-31 6:39:58 AM  
Sorry Rick but no

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burber
2023-01-31 8:17:59 AM  
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NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 8:56:41 AM  

Sgygus: Straight Outta Wells Branch: Primus' songs are terrible

You got that right.


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EyeballKid
2023-01-31 9:24:07 AM  
Well, if one of the most overhyped producers ever with relatively little to show for it says so...
 
cretinbob [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 9:34:00 AM  

433: cretinbob: The wrong Beatle got shot

What are you even doing; dude?


Expressing an unpopular opinion that I understand many people will take too literally, because people take shiat too literally.
He's overrated.
 
pacmanner
2023-01-31 10:05:39 AM  
I've been looking for a new bass for the past couple weeks and this thread pushed me over the edge. Just bought a Schecter SGR C4. It's their least expensive bass at 340 euros and I couldn't pass it up. Can't freakin wait.

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DecemberNitro
2023-01-31 10:56:08 AM  

pacmanner: I've been looking for a new bass for the past couple weeks and this thread pushed me over the edge. Just bought a Schecter SGR C4. It's their least expensive bass at 340 euros and I couldn't pass it up. Can't freakin wait.

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Hell yeah looks nice! I'm waiting on a new guitar myself. The anticipation of New Gear Day is an incredible drug.
 
Barricaded Gunman
2023-01-31 11:07:39 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Ask any famous bass player though who they consider the "best" bass player, and I will bet that a large number of them would pick Jaco Pastorius.


The bladerunner guy who murdered his girlfriend plays bass, too?
 
Mithraic_bullshiat
2023-01-31 11:15:56 AM  
Earth, Wind & Fire's Verdine White does it for me.

Contemporary popular music has replaced a a human being with sensibility, the bass player, with an out-of-balance washing machine: thud...thudthudthud.

I get the appeal: that's one less dude to pay, plus a Whirlpool knows its place in the mix, never has a really cool idea, and as a bonus you get clean clothes at the end. A tidy bit of multitasking, if you ask me.

None of these things are guaranteed if you have a Paul McCartney in the studio.
 
ZaxTrax [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 11:51:58 AM  
There might be some truth to this if Tony Levin didn't exist. Or Carol Kaye,
 
tokinGLX
2023-01-31 11:56:43 AM  
davie504 has left the chat
 
Hawk24
2023-01-31 11:59:54 AM  
So many great McCartney bass lines to choose from, but this one has to be among his very best. Such an inventive counter melody that still serves the song well.

The Beatles - Something (Isolated Bass)
Youtube tIoqyGkMHKw
 
dereksmalls
2023-01-31 1:17:06 PM  
Allman Bros. bus had Dear Prudence playing.
Allen Woody; the bass player is not playing with the band.
Band; that's Paul farking McCartney
Allen; yeah, but he's not playing with the band
 
lostsatellite
2023-01-31 1:51:10 PM  

cretinbob: 433: cretinbob: The wrong Beatle got shot

What are you even doing; dude?

Expressing an unpopular opinion that I understand many people will take too literally, because people take shiat too literally.
He's overrated.


How the f would you know? 'Overrated' is term used exclusively by gatekeeping douches with zero experience in whatever they're talking about. Other people like stuff you don't, and somehow they're the problem? Get farked.
 
pacmanner
2023-01-31 2:19:49 PM  

DecemberNitro: pacmanner: I've been looking for a new bass for the past couple weeks and this thread pushed me over the edge. Just bought a Schecter SGR C4. It's their least expensive bass at 340 euros and I couldn't pass it up. Can't freakin wait.

[Fark user image 700x229]

Hell yeah looks nice! I'm waiting on a new guitar myself. The anticipation of New Gear Day is an incredible drug.


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Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 2:26:07 PM  
Elvis Costello - Veronica
Youtube g-rF4COOd9c

Paul McCartney on Hofner Bass.
 
54n71460
2023-01-31 2:40:20 PM  
Keith is no slouch

https://youtu.be/ztVeSXfgb2w
 
snowybunting [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 2:54:08 PM  
I don't know how you say any one person is the "best", there's way too many different types of bass playing to make a stand on any one person. I really like Jaco, and for fusion-type music he is way up there. I also really like Stanley Clarke, Les Claypool,Charles Mingus and Chris Squire. I would say they are all of those guys could be considered the best bassist for their type of music.

Paul McCartney was the best bass player the Beatles could have ever had.
 
Windswept and Interesting
2023-01-31 3:16:10 PM  
Who cares what Rick Rubin thinks?
 
Eddie Hazel's E string
2023-01-31 3:31:06 PM  

Windswept and Interesting: Who cares what Rick Rubin thinks?


Why wouldn't we at least listen to his opinion? He's an iconic record producer who has worked with dozens of artists in several different genres. It's not like he's speaking out of turn.
 
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