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(The Hollywood Reporter)   The streaming wars result in another merger, to be called Showmount+ or Paratime. Yes, shows are getting the axe as a result   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line
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Mugato [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 9:08:48 PM  
I was just going through Showtime today actually. I watched both Dexters so they don't really have anything anyway.
 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-30 9:43:29 PM  
So what will happen to the Star Trek franchise on Paramount+ then? Or are they going to Fark that all up?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 9:53:22 PM  

AirForceVet: So what will happen to the Star Trek franchise on Paramount+ then? Or are they going to Fark that all up?


It's being merged with a reboot of "Shameless", starring Jonathan Frakes as Frank Gallagher, patriarch of a family from the south side of Chenga.
 
Lsherm [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 9:57:52 PM  
Let the Right One In and AmericanGiglio weren't very good, so they aren't canceling the good stuff just yet. Showtime has a lot of shiat shows, they have plenty to cut.
 
grokca [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 10:42:37 PM  
Mounttime
 
Squid_for_Brains [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 12:32:55 AM  

AirForceVet: So what will happen to the Star Trek franchise on Paramount+ then? Or are they going to Fark that all up?


I'd be investing in hard copies of anything you're particularly fond of. The new business model appears to be "burn it all down and collect the insurance money."
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 12:56:31 AM  
I should just go back to ordering shiat ala carte via Amazon streaming. No subscription streaming service has enough interesting content to enjoy something good more than twice a week, and that doesn't make Netflix or HBOmax cost effective.
 
karl2025
2023-01-31 1:40:58 AM  
If they burn down Lower Decks, I riot.
 
Representative of the unwashed masses
2023-01-31 1:47:25 AM  
So more Yellowstone universe shows? Sweet. Actually make that pretty much any Taylor Sheridan show at this point. Tulsa King is highly entertaining.
 
ZMugg [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 2:12:10 AM  
I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?
 
Zombie DJ
2023-01-31 2:12:34 AM  
They should take ALL the streaming services and make, like, one big service.
Call it, I don't know, cable or something.
 
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo
2023-01-31 2:27:47 AM  
All these old-line media companies freaked out when covid closed the theaters, so all of a sudden everybody had to have their own streaming service.  Now comes the inevitable culling because there were never going to be enough customers willing to support so much mediocre to bad content.  If you're not Disney, or Amazon, or Netflix, you're probably looking to merge with somebody by now.
 
Stud Gerbil
2023-01-31 2:35:06 AM  
Last season of Picard starts directly.   We will find out the answers to two vital questions:
1) Why tf did they bring back Wesley and make him even more obnoxious?
b) How did Guinan open a bar at 10 Forward Street before she ever set foot on the Enterprise?
 
Mad_Radhu
2023-01-31 2:40:19 AM  
They'd better keep The Circus. It's my favorite political documentary series.

Steve Bannon Says "Kari Lake Is The Future" | The Circus | SHOWTIME
Youtube TLpIBSxQHvs
 
TedCruz'sCrazyDad
2023-01-31 2:43:00 AM  

Stud Gerbil: Last season of Picard starts directly.   We will find out the answers to two vital questions:
1) Why tf did they bring back Wesley and make him even more obnoxious?
b) How did Guinan open a bar at 10 Forward Street before she ever set foot on the Enterprise?


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carnifex2005
2023-01-31 2:53:29 AM  

ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?


Netflix has won the streaming wars. They can spend much more money on projects and they are actually making profits now unlike all the other streaming services. Eventually these services will close up and start selling their inventory to Netflix like in the good old days.
 
bingethinker [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 3:56:46 AM  
"Showmount" sounds like a porno company.
 
Bennie Crabtree
2023-01-31 4:47:55 AM  

ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?


the mouse devours all
 
PartTimeBuddha [OhFark]
2023-01-31 5:01:14 AM  

bingethinker: "Showmount" sounds like a porno company.


"Mountshow", surely?
 
stoli n coke
2023-01-31 5:19:30 AM  

carnifex2005: ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?

Netflix has won the streaming wars. They can spend much more money on projects and they are actually making profits now unlike all the other streaming services. Eventually these services will close up and start selling their inventory to Netflix like in the good old days.


Netflix just cancelled the release of two of their movies and are hoping to sell them off to another distributor. Add to that some recent show cancellations and their sudden fixation on stopping password sharing, you might be declaring victory a tad early.
 
Omnidirectional Punching
2023-01-31 5:28:47 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?

the mouse devours all


Nah. They're extremely careful about their properties.

We're at the stage too where smaller providers can still exist for niche audiences. Streaming is morphing into the TV network provider space and I think will eventually replace linear TV altogether. And we've already got entries in a few ways for companies to logically bundle your services. Next will be more forays into streaming service bundle discounts. And then we have cable TV all over again, but now with your local ISP fending off national bundle providers.
 
mistahtom
2023-01-31 5:32:37 AM  
Streaming entertainment is stupid.
 
Omnidirectional Punching
2023-01-31 5:40:34 AM  

stoli n coke: carnifex2005: ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?

Netflix has won the streaming wars. They can spend much more money on projects and they are actually making profits now unlike all the other streaming services. Eventually these services will close up and start selling their inventory to Netflix like in the good old days.

Netflix just cancelled the release of two of their movies and are hoping to sell them off to another distributor. Add to that some recent show cancellations and their sudden fixation on stopping password sharing, you might be declaring victory a tad early.


I agree. I think Netflix is in a very precarious position. They over-expanded into crap content and their only metrics appear to be release date binging and new subs on a show release date. Along with cancelling well-loved shows without conclusions, they've shown no comprehension of how to sustain long-term subscribers. HBO is currently shooting themselves in the foot in the same way but they at least have a much more substantial library of concluded series and better quality movies.

Disney (+Hulu), Apple, along with a lot of niche streamers and even Peacock, are steadily building libraries with stuff people will revisit, and make them better and better value propositions for new subs as time goes on. Netflix is fast losing clout in comparison, and their money grubbing overreach is going to be the last straw for a lot people that won't bother coming back for more than a month at a time to finish out Stranger Things and Wednesday, and then they'll be done.
 
Omnidirectional Punching
2023-01-31 5:41:02 AM  

mistahtom: Streaming entertainment is stupid.


Your face is stupid.
 
shpritz
2023-01-31 5:41:49 AM  

bingethinker: "Showmount" sounds like a porno company.


Or a dressage team.
 
mistahtom
2023-01-31 5:44:37 AM  

Zombie DJ: They should take ALL the streaming services and make, like, one big service.
Call it, I don't know, cable or something.


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erik-k [OhFark]
2023-01-31 5:51:30 AM  

Stud Gerbil: Last season of Picard starts directly.   We will find out the answers to two vital questions:
1) Why tf did they bring back Wesley and make him even more obnoxious?
b) How did Guinan open a bar at 10 Forward Street before she ever set foot on the Enterprise?


B: Because the brains running Picard may well honest to God not understand that "10 forward" refers to the fact that it was at the front of the ship on deck 10 and wasn't a catchy name Guinan remembered from 350 years ago. A minor element on the endless list of what they don't know about the ethos, ideals and lore of Star Trek, and about storytelling in general.

Some dipshiat who, like showrunner Kurtzmann (to quote his own words), "doesn't care about Star Trek" saw it after skimming "Guinan" on wikipedia for 40 seconds and we get another Pakled-level 'memberberry.

"Do you remember ten forward? Look! We remember ten forward! This is a clever reference! We are smart writers!"
 
qorkfiend [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 6:07:43 AM  

Omnidirectional Punching: stoli n coke: carnifex2005: ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?

Netflix has won the streaming wars. They can spend much more money on projects and they are actually making profits now unlike all the other streaming services. Eventually these services will close up and start selling their inventory to Netflix like in the good old days.

Netflix just cancelled the release of two of their movies and are hoping to sell them off to another distributor. Add to that some recent show cancellations and their sudden fixation on stopping password sharing, you might be declaring victory a tad early.

I agree. I think Netflix is in a very precarious position. They over-expanded into crap content and their only metrics appear to be release date binging and new subs on a show release date. Along with cancelling well-loved shows without conclusions, they've shown no comprehension of how to sustain long-term subscribers. HBO is currently shooting themselves in the foot in the same way but they at least have a much more substantial library of concluded series and better quality movies.

Disney (+Hulu), Apple, along with a lot of niche streamers and even Peacock, are steadily building libraries with stuff people will revisit, and make them better and better value propositions for new subs as time goes on. Netflix is fast losing clout in comparison, and their money grubbing overreach is going to be the last straw for a lot people that won't bother coming back for more than a month at a time to finish out Stranger Things and Wednesday, and then they'll be done.


That's always been Netflix's problem - their original smashing success was in delivery, and that was only going to last until that first round of licensing agreements expired when everyone realized they can do it themselves.

Though to their credit Netflix figured that out and started shoveling money towards original content, but even if they strike gold once or twice they simply don't have the time to catch up to, say, Disney's well-known century-old library containing some of the most iconic films in history.
 
PartTimeBuddha [OhFark]
2023-01-31 6:20:41 AM  

Omnidirectional Punching: mistahtom: Streaming entertainment is stupid.

Your face is stupid.


Your eyes are misspent!
 
Vacation Bible School
2023-01-31 7:15:57 AM  

grokca: Mounttime


Skinimax is part of this deal?
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-01-31 7:23:13 AM  

Omnidirectional Punching: They over-expanded into crap content and their only metrics appear to be release date binging and new subs on a show release date. Along with cancelling well-loved shows without conclusions, they've shown no comprehension of how to sustain long-term subscribers.


I don't get the problem with "crap content", though.  It's not like they're an OTA TV channel and can only broadcast one show at a time.  It's not like they can't segregate content in their interface.  They could have a huge library of 'crap' but have it in a different category you have to search separately.

I'm also similarly confused with their inability to figure out that binging was a great way to convince people to make the leap from cable to streaming... but that it wasn't a sustainable model.  Nor is it the best way to generate content people watch.  A show has to be pretty damn good before I'll remember it after a 12 month or longer absence.  A monthly release and a 12 episode year as the standard means more average shows can keep your subscribers interested.

I do blame them for the cancellation problem, though it's rare that anyone has done that properly.  Every show should have a proper wrap-up built into the initial budget, like "first and last" when renting an apartment.  And every writer should have a plan for using that budget to close out their show on a season's notice - even if it means all you get is an extra one hour movie or something.
 
bluorangefyre [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-31 7:26:01 AM  
All I know is that I'd better keep my $5.99 plan to get my local CBS affiliate.  It's why I haven't made the switch to the Showtime bundle.  If I did just to remind myself how weird Twin Peaks Season 3 was, I couldn't go back to that cheap of a plan.
 
snowshovel
2023-01-31 7:44:49 AM  

Omnidirectional Punching: stoli n coke: carnifex2005: ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?

Netflix has won the streaming wars. They can spend much more money on projects and they are actually making profits now unlike all the other streaming services. Eventually these services will close up and start selling their inventory to Netflix like in the good old days.

Netflix just cancelled the release of two of their movies and are hoping to sell them off to another distributor. Add to that some recent show cancellations and their sudden fixation on stopping password sharing, you might be declaring victory a tad early.

I agree. I think Netflix is in a very precarious position. They over-expanded into crap content and their only metrics appear to be release date binging and new subs on a show release date. Along with cancelling well-loved shows without conclusions, they've shown no comprehension of how to sustain long-term subscribers. HBO is currently shooting themselves in the foot in the same way but they at least have a much more substantial library of concluded series and better quality movies.

Disney (+Hulu), Apple, along with a lot of niche streamers and even Peacock, are steadily building libraries with stuff people will revisit, and make them better and better value propositions for new subs as time goes on. Netflix is fast losing clout in comparison, and their money grubbing overreach is going to be the last straw for a lot people that won't bother coming back for more than a month at a time to finish out Stranger Things and Wednesday, and then they'll be done.


The cancelling of "well-loved shows" is a myth.  It's only well-loved because a bunch of fans found each other on the internet and formed an over-sized voice.

The most popular show on TV, streaming or otherwise, is Yellowstone. But you never read about it on the internet, fark never has a thread about it, because it's core viewers are old enough to fall outside of the generation that says "I need to talk on the internet about THIS episode".
 
jake3988 [OhFark]
2023-01-31 7:54:07 AM  
Uh, moronmitter, Paramount global owns both services.  This is just officially combining the services into one.  This is not one company gobbling up the other and firing everyone in sight like WBD.

Less separate services is a GOOD thing.

Course, it will likely mean the price of Paramount+ goes up, but it will mean that you'll automatically get showtime as part of it.  And showtime has a LOT of good shows.

/Been wanting to watch the Dexter revival since it came out.  Now I'll have the opportunity.
 
jake3988 [OhFark]
2023-01-31 7:58:34 AM  

snowshovel: The cancelling of "well-loved shows" is a myth.  It's only well-loved because a bunch of fans found each other on the internet and formed an over-sized voice.

The most popular show on TV, streaming or otherwise, is Yellowstone. But you never read about it on the internet, fark never has a thread about it, because it's core viewers are old enough to fall outside of the generation that says "I need to talk on the internet about THIS episode".


There's a thread every other day on Fark about how it's supposedly 'right wing propaganda'.  It's talked about plenty here.  I see it talked about everywhere.  It's had 2 spinoffs and I believe there's plans for more.  They managed to get two huge A-list actors to star in one of them (Plus Kevin Costner in the flagship show)

I have zero desire to ever watch any of them (maybe 1923 just for Harrison Ford) but let's not pretend that Yellowstone isn't literally everywhere in sight.
 
CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 8:06:24 AM  
I'm watching Season 2 of "Your Honor" on Showtime.  I was surprised they decided to continue the story, and it feels like the show agrees, since it seems to be meandering and just fallout from Season 1, but I'm curious to see where it goes.  Also can't wait for Yellowjackets to return.
 
Der_Lex
2023-01-31 8:25:03 AM  
It's already like this in (parts of) Europe. They launched a new streamer called SkyShowtime here last year which has content from Universal, Dreamworks, Sky, Peacock, Nickelodeon, Showtime, Paramount and Paramount+.

Of course, because of old licensing deals not all shows are on there yet. For example, Strange New Worlds is on SkyShowtime, but Lower Decks isn't, because Amazon still had the international licensing for that.
 
Omnivorous [BareFark]
2023-01-31 8:29:34 AM  
ZombieDJ: They should take ALL the streaming services and make, like, one big service.

They could call it Blockbuster.
 
tricycleracer
2023-01-31 8:59:32 AM  
There should be one unified streaming service that covers the entire Spectrum of content.  That's the next Frontier.

A streamer that truly Casts Communications.  Some sort of Comcast.
 
djslowdive [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 9:10:20 AM  

CarnySaur: I'm watching Season 2 of "Your Honor" on Showtime.  I was surprised they decided to continue the story, and it feels like the show agrees, since it seems to be meandering and just fallout from Season 1, but I'm curious to see where it goes.  Also can't wait for Yellowjackets to return.


Yellowjackets is awesome.
 
F. Denton [TotalFark]
2023-01-31 9:14:40 AM  
Looking forward to Carrie Matheson chasing down Section 31
 
Nick-c137
2023-01-31 9:37:07 AM  

carnifex2005: ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?

Netflix has won the streaming wars. They can spend much more money on projects and they are actually making profits now unlike all the other streaming services. Eventually these services will close up and start selling their inventory to Netflix like in the good old days.


Netflix sucks. The occasional show I want to watch from them isn't worth paying 10-15 a month for, so I just watch any of that stuff on less than legal streaming sites. Hulu has an option to bundle disney so I get both for like 20 a month. Much better use of money than Netflix. Plus they aren't flipping out about sharing passwords.
 
Optimus Primate [OhFark]
2023-01-31 9:39:07 AM  
Consolidation is the name of the game.

Showtime...haha...now there's name I haven't heard in a long time.
 
Snotnose
2023-01-31 9:49:34 AM  

Mugato: I was just going through Showtime today actually. I watched both Dexters so they don't really have anything anyway.


I just finished Ray Donovan last week, it was pretty good.  Not having much luck finding something else to binge.
 
twistedsteel5252
2023-01-31 9:51:50 AM  
Have them add CBS to that pile of shiat while they're at it
 
punkwrestler
2023-01-31 10:09:05 AM  

Omnidirectional Punching: stoli n coke: carnifex2005: ZMugg: I wonder who will end up being the "Taco Bell" of the streaming wars?

Netflix has won the streaming wars. They can spend much more money on projects and they are actually making profits now unlike all the other streaming services. Eventually these services will close up and start selling their inventory to Netflix like in the good old days.

Netflix just cancelled the release of two of their movies and are hoping to sell them off to another distributor. Add to that some recent show cancellations and their sudden fixation on stopping password sharing, you might be declaring victory a tad early.

I agree. I think Netflix is in a very precarious position. They over-expanded into crap content and their only metrics appear to be release date binging and new subs on a show release date. Along with cancelling well-loved shows without conclusions, they've shown no comprehension of how to sustain long-term subscribers. HBO is currently shooting themselves in the foot in the same way but they at least have a much more substantial library of concluded series and better quality movies.

Disney (+Hulu), Apple, along with a lot of niche streamers and even Peacock, are steadily building libraries with stuff people will revisit, and make them better and better value propositions for new subs as time goes on. Netflix is fast losing clout in comparison, and their money grubbing overreach is going to be the last straw for a lot people that won't bother coming back for more than a month at a time to finish out Stranger Things and Wednesday, and then they'll be done.


It's also weird that no one at Netflix understands that people went there for the content they can't see on network TV, and if they keep canceling all their unique shows to create regular tv show, they will lose a lot of subscribers.
 
punkwrestler
2023-01-31 10:13:26 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Omnidirectional Punching: They over-expanded into crap content and their only metrics appear to be release date binging and new subs on a show release date. Along with cancelling well-loved shows without conclusions, they've shown no comprehension of how to sustain long-term subscribers.

I don't get the problem with "crap content", though.  It's not like they're an OTA TV channel and can only broadcast one show at a time.  It's not like they can't segregate content in their interface.  They could have a huge library of 'crap' but have it in a different category you have to search separately.

I'm also similarly confused with their inability to figure out that binging was a great way to convince people to make the leap from cable to streaming... but that it wasn't a sustainable model.  Nor is it the best way to generate content people watch.  A show has to be pretty damn good before I'll remember it after a 12 month or longer absence.  A monthly release and a 12 episode year as the standard means more average shows can keep your subscribers interested.

I do blame them for the cancellation problem, though it's rare that anyone has done that properly.  Every show should have a proper wrap-up built into the initial budget, like "first and last" when renting an apartment.  And every writer should have a plan for using that budget to close out their show on a season's notice - even if it means all you get is an extra one hour movie or something.


They already killed 1899, one of their better shows, which left you guessing.
 
Jim from Saint Paul
2023-01-31 10:17:45 AM  
Sure hope this means I get more softcore porn with my Paramount+ membership.
 
blackminded
2023-01-31 10:23:39 AM  

djslowdive: CarnySaur: I'm watching Season 2 of "Your Honor" on Showtime.  I was surprised they decided to continue the story, and it feels like the show agrees, since it seems to be meandering and just fallout from Season 1, but I'm curious to see where it goes.  Also can't wait for Yellowjackets to return.

Yellowjackets is awesome.


I'm a misogynist so I haven't tried Yellowjackets. Is there anything there to enjoy for someone who fundamentally hates women, particularly strong powerful women? This is important in all of my choices of entertainment.

/does a white man save them all at some point?
 
blackminded
2023-01-31 10:24:57 AM  

Snotnose: I just finished Ray Donovan last week, it was pretty good.  Not having much luck finding something else to binge.


I binged Ray Donovan and I think I quit partway through the last season. I couldn't do the movie. Is it ever not just constant trauma that leaves you needing a shower afterward?
 
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