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2023-01-30 7:49:44 PM  
British Colombia.
 
2023-01-30 7:49:52 PM  
Time travel is a terrible idea
 
2023-01-30 7:51:01 PM  
DNRTFA

Its a start, and a sign that citizens are fed up with the draconian laws surrounding punishment.
 
2023-01-30 7:51:59 PM  
According to officials, police have been provided with infographics and photos illustrating what 2.5 grams of the decriminalized drugs might look like.


Cop math loves this.
 
2023-01-30 7:52:04 PM  
Seriously, if you can go to Mexico and get coke with real sugar in it, then why can't you go to Bolivia and get coke with real coke in it?

I doubt they use real kola nuts either.
 
2023-01-30 7:53:30 PM  
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So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.
 
2023-01-30 7:57:30 PM  

FnkyTwn: So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.


In Denmark the government provides illicit drugs for free to addicts. That way it's properly measured and verified to be safe, and sterile needles are supplied, along with an educated and trained nursing staff to dispense the drugs. It's not like Denmark is promoting people should just be junkies for the rest of their lives, but they're also not heartless barbarians who think anyone who does an illicit drug should just be thrown to the wolves.
 
2023-01-30 7:57:58 PM  
Rob Ford is smiling down from heaven after hearing this news.
 
2023-01-30 7:58:36 PM  

ImmutableTenderloin: DNRTFA

Its a start, and a sign that citizens are fed up with the draconian laws surrounding punishment.


There is a lot more politics going on. BC, similar to Hawaii in the US, is where some provinces have decided to give tickets to their most troublesome people to get them out of their jurisdictions. As a result, Vancouver and Victoria and Vancouver Island in particular, have been suffering from simply a mass, a mass of homeless junkies. And people in those places aren't heartless. When they see a mass of junkies, their heart goes out to want to help them.

I don't know that this is a reasonable step. Making it legal to roll up some crack on the sidewalk they were living on anyway doesn't seem like progressive politics to me. I'd rather something more assistive and less enabling.
 
2023-01-30 8:00:05 PM  
The Wizard of Id unavailable for comment.
 
2023-01-30 8:01:11 PM  
I would think that there is a significant overlap between meth addicts and Nazis.  I wonder if there is any attempt by these people to replicate whatever recipe Hitler was using at the time.

Not something I care to try and google.
 
2023-01-30 8:01:32 PM  

The Yattering: Time travel is a terrible idea


Safety not guaranteed.
Bring your own weapons.
 
2023-01-30 8:02:54 PM  

Weatherkiss: FnkyTwn: So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.

In Denmark the government provides illicit drugs for free to addicts. That way it's properly measured and verified to be safe, and sterile needles are supplied, along with an educated and trained nursing staff to dispense the drugs. It's not like Denmark is promoting people should just be junkies for the rest of their lives, but they're also not heartless barbarians who think anyone who does an illicit drug should just be thrown to the wolves.


I see where they provide "Fix Rooms" where you can do your drugs in front of a nurse. I'm not seeing where they give out free drugs.

"Although Denmark is generally a liberal society, drug use is illegal and laws are enforced." is from gov.uk
 
2023-01-30 8:03:00 PM  
Under the exemption, up to 2.5 grams of the following four drug types can be legally possessed:

Cocaine (crack and powder).
Methamphetamine.
MDMA.
Opioids (including heroin, fentanyl and morphine).


Yup, 2.5 grams of any one of those drugs can kill a toddler. If they can get their hands on Tide Pods, they will get their hands on fentanyl. I predict a holocaust of kids.
 
2023-01-30 8:07:00 PM  

Eat The Placenta: Under the exemption, up to 2.5 grams of the following four drug types can be legally possessed:

Cocaine (crack and powder).
Methamphetamine.
MDMA.
Opioids (including heroin, fentanyl and morphine).

Yup, 2.5 grams of any one of those drugs can kill a toddler. If they can get their hands on Tide Pods, they will get their hands on fentanyl. I predict a holocaust of kids.


Name checks out
 
2023-01-30 8:07:02 PM  

Eat The Placenta: Under the exemption, up to 2.5 grams of the following four drug types can be legally possessed:

Cocaine (crack and powder).
Methamphetamine.
MDMA.
Opioids (including heroin, fentanyl and morphine).

Yup, 2.5 grams of any one of those drugs can kill a toddler. If they can get their hands on Tide Pods, they will get their hands on fentanyl. I predict a holocaust of kids.


Yeah, that Tide Pod holocaust has certainly been a horror. If only people would think of the children and stop doing laundry!
 
2023-01-30 8:07:52 PM  
You know what else can kill kids?

Zombies.
 
2023-01-30 8:08:14 PM  

Eat The Placenta: Under the exemption, up to 2.5 grams of the following four drug types can be legally possessed:

Cocaine (crack and powder).
Methamphetamine.
MDMA.
Opioids (including heroin, fentanyl and morphine).

Yup, 2.5 grams of any one of those drugs can kill a toddler. If they can get their hands on Tide Pods, they will get their hands on fentanyl. I predict a holocaust of kids.


Fark handle checks ALL The way out.

Bravo.  No snark.  You get a Funny.
 
2023-01-30 8:08:38 PM  

The Brains: Eat The Placenta: Under the exemption, up to 2.5 grams of the following four drug types can be legally possessed:

Cocaine (crack and powder).
Methamphetamine.
MDMA.
Opioids (including heroin, fentanyl and morphine).

Yup, 2.5 grams of any one of those drugs can kill a toddler. If they can get their hands on Tide Pods, they will get their hands on fentanyl. I predict a holocaust of kids.

Name checks out


SONOFA....
 
2023-01-30 8:10:27 PM  

FnkyTwn: I see where they provide "Fix Rooms" where you can do your drugs in front of a nurse. I'm not seeing where they give out free drugs.


https://sciencenordic.com/anthropology-denmark-drugs/heroin-clinics-improve-addicts-lives/1371344
 
2023-01-30 8:10:47 PM  

FnkyTwn: [i.cbc.ca image 850x574]

So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.


And what does that exactly have to do with decriminalizing it?  Do you think the people who are wanting legal heavy drugs are particularly concerned with the long term consequences of their actions?
 
2023-01-30 8:14:49 PM  

neapoi: FnkyTwn: [i.cbc.ca image 850x574]

So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.

And what does that exactly have to do with decriminalizing it?  Do you think the people who are wanting legal heavy drugs are particularly concerned with the long term consequences of their actions?


No i'm concerned with addicting a whole new group of people. If you're on Heroin or Fentanyl you're already dead, it's just a matter of how much you cost us all in emergency life saving resources before you go.
 
2023-01-30 8:16:42 PM  
 
2023-01-30 8:19:49 PM  

Weatherkiss: British Colombia.


where we find the city of hongcouver
 
2023-01-30 8:23:43 PM  

FnkyTwn: [i.cbc.ca image 850x574]

So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.


True, but don't assume that leaving those drugs illegal has no cost. Much of the harm from those drugs is due to their illegality. Cartel/gang murder, torture and violence visited upon innocents all over the world. I'd rather the risk be limited to the person trying the drug, if possible.
 
2023-01-30 8:26:12 PM  

Weatherkiss: FnkyTwn: I see where they provide "Fix Rooms" where you can do your drugs in front of a nurse. I'm not seeing where they give out free drugs.

https://sciencenordic.com/anthropology-denmark-drugs/heroin-clinics-improve-addicts-lives/1371344


From that link:
"Heroin treatment isn't only a success story, however.
"The users are frustrated about having to show up at the clinic twice a day every day of the week, and that they're being monitored before, during and after treatment," says Johansen."


That's kinda funny.
 
2023-01-30 8:26:29 PM  
a) drug users will not call for help during o.d. for fear that they will be arrested or their stash taken.
b) applies more resources to catch the bigger fish in the drug trade.
c) allows beat cops to go after the other petty crimes that annoy the general public.
d) hopefully gets more people into treatment faster.
E) saves money by unclogging the justice system. (police, court, jail, and penitentiary)
 
2023-01-30 8:30:06 PM  

FnkyTwn: neapoi: FnkyTwn: [i.cbc.ca image 850x574]

So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.

And what does that exactly have to do with decriminalizing it?  Do you think the people who are wanting legal heavy drugs are particularly concerned with the long term consequences of their actions?

No i'm concerned with addicting a whole new group of people. If you're on Heroin or Fentanyl you're already dead, it's just a matter of how much you cost us all in emergency life saving resources before you go.


So, then double my taxes in the service of uplifting humanitarian programs.

And drag along the reactionaries kicking, cussing, and screaming.

Win-win.
 
2023-01-30 8:31:03 PM  

starsrift: ImmutableTenderloin: DNRTFA

Its a start, and a sign that citizens are fed up with the draconian laws surrounding punishment.

There is a lot more politics going on. BC, similar to Hawaii in the US, is where some provinces have decided to give tickets to their most troublesome people to get them out of their jurisdictions. As a result, Vancouver and Victoria and Vancouver Island in particular, have been suffering from simply a mass, a mass of homeless junkies. And people in those places aren't heartless. When they see a mass of junkies, their heart goes out to want to help them.

I don't know that this is a reasonable step. Making it legal to roll up some crack on the sidewalk they were living on anyway doesn't seem like progressive politics to me. I'd rather something more assistive and less enabling.


Nobody is shipping their homeless or addicts to BC. Full stop. Ridiculous.

Homeless and the addicted are going their on their own - for the warmer weather, the social services (which are lacking but are progressive in comparison to the rest of Canada), and of course the easy availability of drugs. Stop spreading lies.
 
2023-01-30 8:33:26 PM  

look! a robot!: a) drug users will not call for help during o.d. for fear that they will be arrested or their stash taken.
b) applies more resources to catch the bigger fish in the drug trade.
c) allows beat cops to go after the other petty crimes that annoy the general public.
d) hopefully gets more people into treatment faster.
E) saves money by unclogging the justice system. (police, court, jail, and penitentiary)


And what people don't farking get is that whatever is being done right now isn't working.  This also might not work.  And if it doesn't then deal with it.  Grown up shiat.  Like ffs, I don't know if it will work, I really farking well hope so.  At the end of the goddamn day are we going to support status quo?

I really do farking hope it works, there's some real hope out there and at times it's farking messy to go out and find it, and I hope that these people, (farkING PEOPLE GOD DAMMIT) are able to advance along as safely as possible, and maybe some of them will get farking better.  And maybe some won't.  And maybe some will at least be able to farking live out the LAST OF THEIR farkING DAYS with a modicum of humanity.

fark, now I'm really farking angry, not at you Robot, but just the farking shiatty farking shiat.

Where is my goddamn vape.... fark.
 
Juc
2023-01-30 8:34:52 PM  
worked out for Portugal. didn't expect it to, but it did.
BC might screw it up but it's not like it's unprecedented.
 
2023-01-30 8:36:17 PM  

slantsix: starsrift: ImmutableTenderloin: DNRTFA

Its a start, and a sign that citizens are fed up with the draconian laws surrounding punishment.

There is a lot more politics going on. BC, similar to Hawaii in the US, is where some provinces have decided to give tickets to their most troublesome people to get them out of their jurisdictions. As a result, Vancouver and Victoria and Vancouver Island in particular, have been suffering from simply a mass, a mass of homeless junkies. And people in those places aren't heartless. When they see a mass of junkies, their heart goes out to want to help them.

I don't know that this is a reasonable step. Making it legal to roll up some crack on the sidewalk they were living on anyway doesn't seem like progressive politics to me. I'd rather something more assistive and less enabling.

Nobody is shipping their homeless or addicts to BC. Full stop. Ridiculous.

Homeless and the addicted are going their on their own - for the warmer weather, the social services (which are lacking but are progressive in comparison to the rest of Canada), and of course the easy availability of drugs. Stop spreading lies.


https://vancouversun.com/news/metro/two-homeless-men-arrive-in-bc-thanks-to-one-way-bus-ticket-from-saskatchewan-social-services
 
2023-01-30 8:38:02 PM  

slantsix: starsrift: ImmutableTenderloin: DNRTFA

Its a start, and a sign that citizens are fed up with the draconian laws surrounding punishment.

There is a lot more politics going on. BC, similar to Hawaii in the US, is where some provinces have decided to give tickets to their most troublesome people to get them out of their jurisdictions. As a result, Vancouver and Victoria and Vancouver Island in particular, have been suffering from simply a mass, a mass of homeless junkies. And people in those places aren't heartless. When they see a mass of junkies, their heart goes out to want to help them.

I don't know that this is a reasonable step. Making it legal to roll up some crack on the sidewalk they were living on anyway doesn't seem like progressive politics to me. I'd rather something more assistive and less enabling.

Nobody is shipping their homeless or addicts to BC. Full stop. Ridiculous.

Homeless and the addicted are going their on their own - for the warmer weather, the social services (which are lacking but are progressive in comparison to the rest of Canada), and of course the easy availability of drugs. Stop spreading lies.


It was reported by the CBC.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/saskatchewan-buys-1-way-bus-tickets-to-b-c-for-homeless-men-1.3483429
 
2023-01-30 8:39:06 PM  

starsrift: BC is where some provinces have decided to give tickets to their most troublesome people to get them out of their jurisdictions.


Other provinces don't do that as much as you might think.

Homeless people migrate to the southwest corner of BC of their own accord because it's the only part of Canada that doesn't freeze in the winter. They come for the mild climate, not because the mayor of Montreal or Calgary gave them a bus ticket.
 
2023-01-30 8:43:40 PM  

Ishkur: starsrift: BC is where some provinces have decided to give tickets to their most troublesome people to get them out of their jurisdictions.

Other provinces don't do that as much as you might think.

Homeless people migrate to the southwest corner of BC of their own accord because it's the only part of Canada that doesn't freeze in the winter. They come for the mild climate, not because the mayor of Montreal or Calgary gave them a bus ticket.


it's a good indicator of the size and seriousness of the problem when there are tent camps north of PG in the winter.
 
2023-01-30 8:44:20 PM  
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You know this guy has a newsletter that people constantly sign up for...the meth users have signed up multiple times
 
2023-01-30 8:44:54 PM  
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2023-01-30 8:44:57 PM  

Ishkur: starsrift: BC is where some provinces have decided to give tickets to their most troublesome people to get them out of their jurisdictions.

Other provinces don't do that as much as you might think.

Homeless people migrate to the southwest corner of BC of their own accord because it's the only part of Canada that doesn't freeze in the winter. They come for the mild climate, not because the mayor of Montreal or Calgary gave them a bus ticket.


Regardless of how they arrive, the problem still exists. And the question of making it legal for them to do their drugs in public, instead of taking other, more rehabilitative measures, is still a question.

I'm not a big supporter of jail time for drug offenses. But that doesn't mean I don't want the RCMP to be able to do, well, anything. There has to be a middle ground somewhere.
 
2023-01-30 8:46:47 PM  
Speaking of cop math ... TFA says one can legally possess 2.5 grams, but the photo has them holding 3.5 grams, which is 1 gram over legal.
 
2023-01-30 8:47:21 PM  

SirMadness: FnkyTwn: neapoi: FnkyTwn: [i.cbc.ca image 850x574]

So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.

And what does that exactly have to do with decriminalizing it?  Do you think the people who are wanting legal heavy drugs are particularly concerned with the long term consequences of their actions?

No i'm concerned with addicting a whole new group of people. If you're on Heroin or Fentanyl you're already dead, it's just a matter of how much you cost us all in emergency life saving resources before you go.

So, then double my taxes in the service of uplifting humanitarian programs.

And drag along the reactionaries kicking, cussing, and screaming.

Win-win.


no one wakes up one day and says "i want to try heroin today" its such a slow roll to that... your programs that your taxes paid for to educate kids to "just say no" have failed... your taxes you paid for to arrest the way out of this problem has failed. Your demand for less taxes has taken away the programs for kids to keep them busy after school are gone. yada yada yada. legalize it, tax it, regulate it, and treat addiction as a medical issue and not a criminal one.
 
2023-01-30 8:50:04 PM  
I wonder if they have ever known anyone with a coke addiction?
 
2023-01-30 8:50:07 PM  

DocUi: look! a robot!: a) drug users will not call for help during o.d. for fear that they will be arrested or their stash taken.
b) applies more resources to catch the bigger fish in the drug trade.
c) allows beat cops to go after the other petty crimes that annoy the general public.
d) hopefully gets more people into treatment faster.
E) saves money by unclogging the justice system. (police, court, jail, and penitentiary)

And what people don't farking get is that whatever is being done right now isn't working.  This also might not work.  And if it doesn't then deal with it.  Grown up shiat.  Like ffs, I don't know if it will work, I really farking well hope so.  At the end of the goddamn day are we going to support status quo?

I really do farking hope it works, there's some real hope out there and at times it's farking messy to go out and find it, and I hope that these people, (farkING PEOPLE GOD DAMMIT) are able to advance along as safely as possible, and maybe some of them will get farking better.  And maybe some won't.  And maybe some will at least be able to farking live out the LAST OF THEIR farkING DAYS with a modicum of humanity.

fark, now I'm really farking angry, not at you Robot, but just the farking shiatty farking shiat.

Where is my goddamn vape.... fark.


i like this saying... "if you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you always got."
 
2023-01-30 9:04:12 PM  

FnkyTwn: [i.cbc.ca image 850x574]

So they want the government to test and verify their supply of heroin and fentanyl? I assume the government is going to have to sell it too?

I'm all for legalizing marijuana because it never should have been illegal in the first place, but trying heroin, meth or fentanyl just once has a good chance of killing you or addicting you till you die.


I can't imagine any country establishing a federal agency to verify the quality of drugs. If there is no testing, they are setting themselves up for some crank to commit mass murder


/fentanyl is a presscription drug regulated by the FDA in the US. It does not kill everyone who has it "just once"
//not advice to go try it, but don't believe every word the boys in blue peddle. More criminalization = more enforcement money
 
2023-01-30 9:06:17 PM  

SimonElectric: I can't imagine any country establishing a federal agency to verify the quality of drugs.


Are you American?
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2023-01-30 9:13:23 PM  
Like to point out "original recipe cocaine" aka "Peruvian Flake" is pretty much no longer available since ether supplies were cut off by the US government in December of 1986. It produces crystalline cocaine that is much stronger than the white powder cocaine made with kerosene or even worse gasoline. The "crystal" cocaine you get now is from pressure, not from the chemical process like it is with ether.

Citation for ether cut off in 1986: https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2001hg.pdf
 
2023-01-30 9:14:48 PM  

Turbo Cojones: I wonder if they have ever known anyone with a coke addiction?


Yeah. 2.5 grams of coke would last an hour. The problem is getting really high for an hour, and then an hour later you're jonesing for more. The addiction will make a person go commit crime to get more. I've done plenty of beer runners as an ex-alcoholic/drug addict. I'm sober today, but if I had access to legal drugs, I'm not sure I would be.
 
2023-01-30 9:16:26 PM  

look! a robot!: no one wakes up one day and says "i want to try heroin today" its such a slow roll to that...legalize it, tax it, regulate it, and treat addiction as a medical issue and not a criminal one.


And then wait for the Fentanyl to do its thing.
 
2023-01-30 9:23:34 PM  

Weatherkiss: This is probably a better link. Hundreds of drug addicts have the right to two free doses of heroin a day in Denmark.


I saw a film a few years ago, Scandinavian, takes place around Christmas time. It was a series of largely unrelated vignettes that show people's lives. There's a woman visiting a relative (parent?) who has Alzheimer's/dementia, a girl who is inappropriately touched (and rightfully expresses anger and rage about it), and one character is a drug addict who is having drugs administered to him under supervision. They give him a little gift before they send him on his way.

I love the film. I cannot for the life of me remember what it was called, and I can't seem to figure out how to find it online.
 
2023-01-30 9:24:21 PM  
I'm sure this new policy will lead to drug traffickers refusing to add Fentanyl to their narcotics out of a sense of duty to the public safety of B.C.
 
2023-01-30 9:41:20 PM  

anuran: Weatherkiss: British Colombia.

where we find the city of hongcouver


no such city exists
 
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