CCNP: The media was not wrong about there being obvious Trump collusion with Russia.

It just proves that the Teflon Don is an international criminal mastermind, which is why there is never enough evidence to bring criminal charges against him.

Or maybe the FBI and the IRS are staffed wholly by incompetent morons.

No, the media was entirely wrong about Trump collusion with Russia.  The ties between the Clinton campaign and the debunked Steele Dossier are public now, the Twitter Files have been exposing how complicit social media companies were 100% compliant with FBI and CIA diktats, Mueller's investigation was a wet fart, etc etc.

Not to say there wasn't a ton of other crimes that Trump was absolutely guilty of that should have been investigated, but once they glommed onto the Russiagate nonsense all that other stuff was abandoned or went to the back pages.


The Steele dossier: A reckoning | CNN Politics

The central allegations, that Trump conspired with the Kremlin to win the 2016 election and that Russia had compromising information on him, were given a veneer of credibility because they originated from a retired British spy, Christopher Steele, who had a solid reputation...

...But five years later, the credibility of the dossier has significantly diminished.

A series of investigations and lawsuits have discredited many of its central allegations and exposed the unreliability of Steele's sources. They also raise serious questions about the political underpinnings of some key explosive claims about Trump by shedding new light on the involvement of some well-connected Democrats in the dossier, and separate efforts to prod the FBIto investigate ties between Trump's campaign and Russia

These revelations have triggered a reckoning around the Steele dossier, particularly in the wake of two recent indictments secured by John Durham, the special counsel appointed during the Trump administration to investigate the FBI's Russia probe. Durham alleges that Steele's primary source, a US-based foreign policy analyst, repeatedly lied to the FBI about where he got his information.

To be clear, multiple US government inquiries uncovered dozens of contacts between Trump campaign associates and Russians, which have since been acknowledged. The candidate himself and his closest advisers even welcomed the Kremlin's interference in the election. Still, none of it added up to the collusion suggested in Steele's memos.

Legitimate questions are now being raised about the dossier - how it was used by Democrats as a political weapon against Trump, how it was handled by the FBI and US intelligence agencies, and how it was portrayed in the mainstream media.

Trump swiftly rejected Steele's claims and said a "group of opponents ... put that crap together." Nearly five years later, it's clearer than ever that he wasn't too far off about the origins of the dossier.

NuclearPenguins: jethroe: No, the media was entirely wrong about Trump collusion with Russia.

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Anything else you wish to lie about?

Oh god, not you again, with the gifs and the pics and the dumb questions.  Look it up yourself.  I could find you countless links to articles but why bother when you'll ignore them and respond with a gif.  I started you off with a CNN article, you can take it from there.

I love how your idea is that it's still real, though.  Because if Trump did collude and Russia controls him and the NSA and the FBI somehow didn't prevent a known Russian asset from becoming PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES then they literally didn't prevent the most important thing they are tasked with preventing.  And hell, he's running again.

So if you're right, then the intelligence agencies are filled with absolute idiots who couldn't somehow prevent a foreign agent from taking the highest office in the land.

But you're not right, so don't worry about that.

Cokezeroinacan: Kangaroo_Ralph: The media prints what the Democrat swamp and their CIA tells them to print. They are complicit. There are very few actual journalists left.

I'd bet good money the people you consider to be an actual journalist, and the people Jethroe consider to be an actual journalist, are the exact same people.

Ok let's do this.  I pick Chris Hedges.  Before that, the dearly departed Robert Fisk.  Now you.

Cokezeroinacan: jethroe: Cokezeroinacan: Kangaroo_Ralph: The media prints what the Democrat swamp and their CIA tells them to print. They are complicit. There are very few actual journalists left.

I'd bet good money the people you consider to be an actual journalist, and the people Jethroe consider to be an actual journalist, are the exact same people.

Ok let's do this.  I pick Chris Hedges.  Before that, the dearly departed Robert Fisk.  Now you.

I'm guessing your friend kangaroo would pick the same.

Exciting.

oa330_man: jethroe:
No, the media was entirely wrong about Trump collusion with Russia.  The ties between the Clinton campaign and the debunked Steele Dossier are public now, the Twitter Files have been exposing how complicit social media companies were 100% compliant with FBI and CIA diktats, Mueller's investigation was a wet fart, etc etc.

Not to say there wasn't a ton of other crimes that Trump was absolutely guilty of that should have been investigated, but once they glommed onto the Russiagate nonsense all that other stuff was abandoned or went to the back pages.


The Steele dossier: A reckoning | CNN Politics

The central allegations, that Trump conspired with the Kremlin to win the 2016 election and that Russia had compromising information on him, were given a veneer of credibility because they originated from a retired British spy, Christopher Steele, who had a solid reputation...

...But five years later, the credibility of the dossier has significantly diminished.

A series of investigations and lawsuits have discredited many of its central allegations and exposed the unreliability of Steele's sources. They also raise serious questions about the political underpinnings of some key explosive claims about Trump by shedding new light on the involvement of some well-connected Democrats in the dossier, and separate efforts to prod the FBIto investigate ties between Trump's campaign and Russia

These revelations have triggered a reckoning around the Steele dossier, particularly in the wake of two recent indictments secured by John Durham, the special counsel appointed during the Trump administration to investigate the FBI's Russia probe. Durham alleges that Steele's p ...

You've posted this before, were asked to provide an example and your example disproved your statement.

At this point, anybody still touting the "OMG RUSSIA OWNS TRUMP" line after all these years should be ignored or made fun of.  Guess which I'm picking?