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brokenbiscuits [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 9:33:30 AM  
The WordPress admin interface is "simply bad", Ric Romero reports from Silicon Valley

FTFY, smitty.

/ Proof
 
Somaticasual [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 9:56:11 AM  
I mean, he's right in a few senses:
1. Wordpress needs a built-in framework for plugin options that actually looks decent. Every plugin basically has to reinvent the wheel just to get a nice options panel in place.
2. WordPress needs a better visual editor. *NOT* gutenberg. They literally picked a plugin that was still in early development to adopt for the new UI - out of all the options they had that were more refined. Someone on the WP core team must have had some unfair sway in that.

However, WP is still easily the most widely-adapted CMS out there. Case in point: The author themselves built their plugin for it. The minor issues it has as a CMS can be worked on.

//WP dev for 12 years+
 
labman [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 10:12:34 AM  
I don't think it's awful.  the price is certainly right...
 
Wine Sipping Elitist [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 10:25:33 AM  
WordPress lol wow

I think I made some e-commerce plugins for that beast
 
Ishkur [OhFark]
2023-01-30 10:48:15 AM  
I love how bad WordPress is.

I love how bad every WYSIWIG web editor is.

If it weren't for shiatty website building apps, I'd never have a job.
 
T.rex
2023-01-30 3:08:30 PM  

Ishkur: I love how bad WordPress is.

I love how bad every WYSIWIG web editor is.

If it weren't for shiatty website building apps, I'd never have a job.


So are you saying, you build from scratch? 100% from code?  I don't think i believe you.
 
dyhchong
2023-01-30 3:30:15 PM  
Absolutely.

WordPress will always have its place, though. Free or low cost websites that look like websites from people with little to no experience.

Sure they run like arse, and everything is extremely frustratingly slow. But they're a great place to start for people on a tight budget. Or for cheap developers to build something that everyday people can self-manage.

I run an app server cluster and jesus christ WordPress is a nightmare if you want to run it across multiple servers.

/currently switching over to Magento from WooCommerce
//I wish I had the time to finish my own CMS
 
bostonguy [TotalFark]
2023-01-30 4:12:24 PM  
An open question from someone who has run various marketing websites.

If you don't like Wordpress (or the newer Elementor framework that runs on Wordpress) in theory, what is the alternative in the real world for companies -- especially startups and small businesses -- that cannot afford expensive, custom-built websites?
 
dyhchong
2023-01-30 4:22:45 PM  

bostonguy: An open question from someone who has run various marketing websites.

If you don't like Wordpress (or the newer Elementor framework that runs on Wordpress) in theory, what is the alternative in the real world for companies -- especially startups and small businesses -- that cannot afford expensive, custom-built websites?


Article points our Wix, and there's Shopify. I've never used Wix, but Shopify isn't cheap for babies first eCommerce site, and you're quite locked in.

I wouldn't suggest that WordPress is a villain or to be avoided like, say, Adobe Flash, but it's the first rung on the ladder.

if your business/website is growing, you can afford something more expensive down the line, but there's nothing wrong with never leaving WordPress if your business never grows and you get a visitor/sale here or there.
 
Ishkur [OhFark]
2023-01-30 5:51:53 PM  

T.rex: Ishkur: I love how bad WordPress is.

I love how bad every WYSIWIG web editor is.

If it weren't for shiatty website building apps, I'd never have a job.

So are you saying, you build from scratch? 100% from code?  I don't think i believe you.


Only my own sites.

But most of my job entails coding custom solutions and additional functionality for various CMS' that the client requires and can't find in any existing plugin or widget (or that they don't know how to get it working).
 
T.rex
2023-01-31 12:03:28 PM  

Ishkur: T.rex: Ishkur: I love how bad WordPress is.

I love how bad every WYSIWIG web editor is.

If it weren't for shiatty website building apps, I'd never have a job.

So are you saying, you build from scratch? 100% from code?  I don't think i believe you.

Only my own sites.

But most of my job entails coding custom solutions and additional functionality for various CMS' that the client requires and can't find in any existing plugin or widget (or that they don't know how to get it working).


Fair enough.  I don't do it professionally, but my perception is that it would be hard to beat Dreamweaver in WYSIWIG.   

WordPress, i find it cumbersome to hide/mask the inherent blog nature of it all... I once found a really great template i loved that was unbelievably customizable, but then WordPress ceased supporting it, citing it had a security concern.
 
Ishkur [OhFark]
2023-01-31 12:17:00 PM  

T.rex: Fair enough. I don't do it professionally, but my perception is that it would be hard to beat Dreamweaver in WYSIWIG.


You can't make my music guide in Dreamweaver.
 
T.rex
2023-01-31 12:26:00 PM  

Ishkur: T.rex: Fair enough. I don't do it professionally, but my perception is that it would be hard to beat Dreamweaver in WYSIWIG.

You can't make my music guide in Dreamweaver.


I'm checking your site out now... pretty amazing.
 
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