electricjebus: Gyrfalcon: F*ck that shiat. My gas bill was $450 last month because CA is subsidizing you motherf*ckers back east; but I'll be damned if I sit and shiver. I hope you're cold and miserable anyway, because I know it's a lot colder there than it is here.

Mine's never cracked $200 in Missouri.  On a sidenote, my last job was running a factory that made high quality/expensive insulation and I could take as much scrap product home with me as I wanted... It was perfectly good, just couldn't be sold for one reason or another.

And????? WTF did you end up doing? Giant Pink Insulation Jesus?? What?

I have been using my fireplace instead of the heater. Wood is 35$ a wheelbarrow load of oak at the the hinterland woodlots for oak or 13.99$ a sh*tty little box of oak from market. Two wheelbarrow loads is around 10 boxes.  I can get three solid days out of two wheelbarrows. Like 24/7 heat over the weekend. So like 300 on wood to save probably 400-450 on gas for around 100ish a month savings depending on how many little boxes I buy. I'm like a person who sees wood and thinks "Man. I could use that wood." Another benefit, I feel, is knowing exactly how much money is goes up in smoke and paying for that as I go. I f*cking hate dealing with wild 700$ bills. It happens August and September, no choice, because I run the A.C.

electricjebus: Por que tan serioso: electricjebus: Gyrfalcon: F*ck that shiat. My gas bill was $450 last month because CA is subsidizing you motherf*ckers back east; but I'll be damned if I sit and shiver. I hope you're cold and miserable anyway, because I know it's a lot colder there than it is here.

Mine's never cracked $200 in Missouri.  On a sidenote, my last job was running a factory that made high quality/expensive insulation and I could take as much scrap product home with me as I wanted... It was perfectly good, just couldn't be sold for one reason or another.

And????? WTF did you end up doing? Giant Pink Insulation Jesus?? What?

It was a spray foam insulation, we made a product that you could drill a small hole in the wall and slowly fill it up between the studs with insulation in layers then patch it up later.  R-8 per inch and acts as a moisture barrier as well as closing any gaps in the wall letting cold/hot air in.

For my basement I used our regular product, mostly intended for new construction, between the joists.  Really popular product in Canada and Nevada.  It was once popular in Russia, but they can't afford it anymore and I'm pretty sure they stopped doing business altogether there after the invasion of Ukraine.

Thank you! That's cool, though.

the money is in the banana stand: Por que tan serioso: I have been using my fireplace instead of the heater. Wood is 35$ a wheelbarrow load of oak at the the hinterland woodlots for oak or 13.99$ a sh*tty little box of oak from market. Two wheelbarrow loads is around 10 boxes.  I can get three solid days out of two wheelbarrows. Like 24/7 heat over the weekend. So like 300 on wood to save probably 400-450 on gas for around 100ish a month savings depending on how many little boxes I buy. I'm like a person who sees wood and thinks "Man. I could use that wood." Another benefit, I feel, is knowing exactly how much money is goes up in smoke and paying for that as I go. I f*cking hate dealing with wild 700$ bills. It happens August and September, no choice, because I run the A.C.

Lol what? The most I have ever paid for any energy bill per month was $225, and that was because I let my contract slip. Running my AC 24/7 during sweltering and humid summer months I barely hit over $150 a month.

So Cal utilities are high.

My utilities are normally around 250 a month.

For context it has been getting down to around 39ish here at night which may as well be the North Pole for us. Wisconsin people might even just put on a jacket.