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SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 1:30:38 PM  
It appears to be working too.

Most people are paying little attention and non-maga people who pay attention are laughing at republicans. They have kidnapped red chief
 
Badmoodman [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 1:47:34 PM  
Look at those disrespectful slobs. In the Oval Office, one with no tie on, in the Oval Office


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Geeze, I miss those days.
 
Badmoodman [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 1:48:59 PM  

Badmoodman: Look at those disrespectful slobs. In the Oval Office, one with no tie on, in the Oval Office


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Geeze, I miss those days.



Umm, somehow I deleted, "the other with his feet up on the desk."

Arrggghh.
 
Hoban Washburne [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 1:59:42 PM  
There's an old saying in Tennessee.  Well it's an old saying in Texas.  I assume it's an old saying in Tennesse.  Fool me once shame on.... Shame on you........ Fool me won't get fooled again.
 
Unobtanium [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 2:05:09 PM  
"Here's the leader of the free world pounding on the table, being irresponsible, saying 'no, no, no, just raise the limit, make us spend more.' No. That's not how adults act," McCarthy told reporters at the Capitol last week.

No, the adults are the ones telling you "This is debt we already incurred. It's a result of reduced taxes and spending on stupid stuff like border walls, and F-35s.
 
sinner4ever
2023-01-29 2:05:48 PM  
This didn't age well.
MSNBC just announced that McCarthy has been invited to the White House on Wednesday to negotiate the debt ceiling.
 
yanceylebeef [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 2:23:53 PM  

sinner4ever: This didn't age well.
MSNBC just announced that McCarthy has been invited to the White House on Wednesday to negotiate the debt ceiling.


Biden: Raise it.
McCarthy: OK.
Negotiations over.
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 2:28:04 PM  
I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.
 
flamark [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 2:31:57 PM  

Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.


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Irving Maimway [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 2:32:37 PM  
I'm glad Biden is taking this approach.
 
enry [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 2:40:33 PM  

flamark: Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.

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Remember when we were concerned we were paying off the debt too fast?  Those were the days.
 
Xythero [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 3:46:53 PM  
So, why have it at all? During the lame duck some Dems in Congress saw the likelihood of Repubs crashing the economy and proposed eliminating the debt ceiling, and Biden rejected it saying that was irresponsible.  If we are just going to raise it automatically, keeping it serves no purpose except to offer Republicans a chance to plunge the world into a depression.  Just get rid of it, because one of these times Republicans aren't going to blink.
 
Notabunny [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 4:41:00 PM  
FTA   "It is possible we will eventually see House Republicans put forth a plan for dealing with both the debt limit and the spending problem."

Republicans will get that to you in about two weeks
 
CCNP
2023-01-29 4:42:49 PM  
Can't get fooled again.
 
Summoner101
2023-01-29 4:42:56 PM  

enry: flamark: Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.

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Remember when we were concerned we were paying off the debt too fast?  Those were the days.


If it's a Dimmycrat doin' it, it's wrong!
 
iheartscotch
2023-01-29 4:44:01 PM  
Fool me twice....we won't get fooled again....
 
soopey [OhFark]
2023-01-29 4:49:10 PM  

Hoban Washburne: There's an old saying in Tennessee.  Well it's an old saying in Texas.  I assume it's an old saying in Tennesse.  Fool me once shame on.... Shame on you........ Fool me won't get fooled again.


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Certainly wasn't fooled by that second shoe.
 
hugadarn [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 4:51:00 PM  

Notabunny: FTA   "It is possible we will eventually see House Republicans put forth a plan for dealing with both the debt limit and the spending problem."

Republicans will get that to you in about two weeks


I think it involves me paying an extra 30% on everything I purchase.
 
dsmith42 [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 4:57:38 PM  

enry: flamark: Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.

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Remember when we were concerned we were paying off the debt too fast?  Those were the days.


farking Greenspan. At least he doesn't show his face in public much anymore. I think he took the calls to "fark off" after he built the GFC bubble to heart. That or he is just senile now.
 
Karma Chameleon
2023-01-29 5:00:16 PM  
Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.
 
ansius
2023-01-29 5:03:54 PM  
And Hakeem Jeffries and Schumer are saying exactly the same thing.

The Dems seem united in just not playing this game.

If the GOP wants to crash the world economy, they're going to own it.

But they don't want to actually budget spending cuts. They don't want to do the hard work of finding and negotiating cuts that Schumer will pass in the Senate and that Biden will sign.

They just want to pass useless culture war bills and then run to Fox to grandstand about how the Dems won't vote for them.
 
DocUi
2023-01-29 5:11:36 PM  
JFC

The debt limit is to pay for what you bought you twats.  If you didn't want to pay for Trump you shouldn't have supported him with what he wanted to spend.  But you sure did waddle up to the tax cut trough when the time came to vote in more than 25% of the current US DEBT.

But now you don't want to pay for it?

Party of personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility and patriotism my fuzzy white ass.
 
Aquapope
2023-01-29 5:13:22 PM  

Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.


"I don't get the payment ceiling.  The US already incurred that debt.  Why are we putting a ceiling on the amount we pay but not on the amount we buy?"

That's the way you should phrase the question.  The total US debt is important, but the so-called debt ceiling isn't about that.
 
Ishkur [OhFark]
2023-01-29 5:13:50 PM  

Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.


It's not debt, it's just a record of money created.
 
jjorsett
2023-01-29 5:17:21 PM  
What would ensure "Never again" would be getting rid of the never-to-be-enforced fictional debt 'limit' completely. Noble experiment, but it came close to exploding and killing all the lab workers. Let's not keep giving it new opportunities.
 
farkitallletitend
2023-01-29 5:18:28 PM  

Ishkur: Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.

It's not debt, it's just a record of money created.


In that case why don't they just create a million dollars in everyone's bank account and call it a day.
 
TofuTheAlmighty [BareFark]
2023-01-29 5:19:27 PM  
The debt limit is inarguably unconstitutional. The executive branch cannot be legally required to both 1) spend money and 2) not spent money.
 
dryknife
2023-01-29 5:30:11 PM  

Hoban Washburne: There's an old saying in Tennessee.  Well it's an old saying in Texas.  I assume it's an old saying in Tennesse.  Fool me once shame on.... Shame on you........ Fool me won't get fooled again.


Very well put!

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jook
2023-01-29 5:35:54 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.


They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-01-29 5:41:26 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.


Or even abolished the debt ceiling entirely.

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Karma Chameleon
2023-01-29 5:41:49 PM  
jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-01-29 5:43:08 PM  

Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said


They're our elected officials, not gods.
 
RogermcAllen [OhFark]
2023-01-29 5:43:32 PM  

flamark: Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.

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That chart always pisses me off because it ignores the fact that the increase in Obama's first term was just accurate accounting for the things Bush swept under the rug.  Someone should make a real chart that looks something more like this with a big *:
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Subtonic
2023-01-29 5:48:48 PM  

Badmoodman: Badmoodman: Look at those disrespectful slobs. In the Oval Office, one with no tie on, in the Oval Office


[Fark user image 850x566]

Geeze, I miss those days.


Umm, somehow I deleted, "the other with his feet up on the desk."

Arrggghh.


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yakmans_dad
2023-01-29 5:49:07 PM  
Republicans control the House. Don't write the bills to spend money, but you have to pay for what you vote for. Don't ask Democrats to give you cover. Have the courage of your convictions. It's as simple as that.
 
mistahtom
2023-01-29 5:53:24 PM  
During the 1994 government shutdown, the oppressors distracted you with OJ SIMPSON
 
jook
2023-01-29 5:56:46 PM  

Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said


And none of what you said matters because they didn't have the votes in the Senate. You could've said "Democrats could have given everyone sex robots when they controlled congress" and it would have been equally valid (or maybe not, i don't think anyone's raised the sex robot issue in the Senate)
 
Ishkur [OhFark]
2023-01-29 5:58:11 PM  

farkitallletitend: Ishkur: Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.

It's not debt, it's just a record of money created.

In that case why don't they just create a million dollars in everyone's bank account and call it a day.


Because then the price of everything would go up a million dollars and it solves nothing.
 
quiotu
2023-01-29 6:03:07 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said

They're our elected officials, not gods.


Then why do you portray them having the power of gods when they don't do what you like?
 
tfresh [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 6:07:06 PM  

enry: flamark: Mugato: I don't get the debt ceiling. The US is like $30trillion in debt, what difference does it make at this point.

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Remember when we were concerned we were paying off the debt too fast?  Those were the days.


You mean the last time we put ANY money I to the debt in the 50s?

If you don't understand debt... well... you're probably on fark. 🤣
 
gameshowhost [OhFark]
2023-01-29 6:08:54 PM  
[GOP, for every single revenue problem ever]: 'We need to cut spending on useful programs. Not so much on the useless stuff.'
 
natazha [BareFark]
2023-01-29 6:09:08 PM  
The debt ceiling replaced Congress authorizing each bond issue by the United States Treasury by passing a legislative act that approved the issue and the amount.

Going back to that would only be worse. A rational* way forward: the budget process would automatically include the authorization to issue bonds as needed to cover the budget shortfall.

*Not a word that is ever seen in discussions about Congress.
 
Godwalk
2023-01-29 6:23:26 PM  
Get rid of the stupid damn rule. It's just like the filibuster rule. When their purpose is corrupted, delete the bastard.
 
Weatherkiss [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 6:31:58 PM  
It's funny how literally no other country has the debt ceiling hostage negotiation crisis every few years, but for some strange unexplainable reason America is beholden to having its debt taken hostage as a political norm.
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-01-29 6:32:12 PM  

quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said

They're our elected officials, not gods.

Then why do you portray them having the power of gods when they don't do what you like?


Apparently, any sufficiently-advanced governance is indistinguishable from magic to moderates.

Let's be honest: the problem *isn't* that they lacked the political power, it's that they lacked the willpower.

When the super-wealthy want something, it *immediately* gets done (see: Congress screwing over railway workers).

When ordinary people want something, suddenly they want to take their time with it or aren't any able to do it at all (see: the 13+ years without any minimum wage increases).
 
Zagloba
2023-01-29 6:43:18 PM  
The responsible solution is to amend the Federal Reserve Act to authorize the issuance of bonds sufficient to cover any authorized federal spending. But part of me wants the executive to slap its dick on the table and say that since Congress has written an absurd contradiction into the law ("pay these obligations, but also only pay them if the total outstanding bond face value is below such and such amount") and simply say they'll resolve the contradiction in the least harmful way possible.
 
quiotu
2023-01-29 6:45:58 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said

They're our elected officials, not gods.

Then why do you portray them having the power of gods when they don't do what you like?

Apparently, any sufficiently-advanced governance is indistinguishable from magic to moderates.

Let's be honest: the problem *isn't* that they lacked the political power, it's that they lacked the willpower.

When the super-wealthy want something, it *immediately* gets done (see: Congress screwing over railway workers).

When ordinary people want something, suddenly they want to take their time with it or aren't any able to do it at all (see: the 13+ years without any minimum wage increases).


You're not explaining how to fix this, whether it's their willpower or their power.

You have succeeded in being Captain Obvious once again. Do you have anything to share that everyone here doesn't already know?
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-01-29 6:54:57 PM  

quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said

They're our elected officials, not gods.

Then why do you portray them having the power of gods when they don't do what you like?

Apparently, any sufficiently-advanced governance is indistinguishable from magic to moderates.

Let's be honest: the problem *isn't* that they lacked the political power, it's that they lacked the willpower.

When the super-wealthy want something, it *immediately* gets done (see: Congress screwing over railway workers).

When ordinary people want something, suddenly they want to take their time with it or aren't any able to do it at all (see: the 13+ years without any minimum wage increases).

You're not explaining how to fix this, whether it's their willpower or their power.

You have succeeded in being Captain Obvious once again. Do you have anything to share that everyone here doesn't already know?


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"Let's see YOU do better!" isn't an accepted argument in any area.
 
quiotu
2023-01-29 6:58:38 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said

They're our elected officials, not gods.

Then why do you portray them having the power of gods when they don't do what you like?

Apparently, any sufficiently-advanced governance is indistinguishable from magic to moderates.

Let's be honest: the problem *isn't* that they lacked the political power, it's that they lacked the willpower.

When the super-wealthy want something, it *immediately* gets done (see: Congress screwing over railway workers).

When ordinary people want something, suddenly they want to take their time with it or aren't any able to do it at all (see: the 13+ years without any minimum wage increases).

You're not explaining how to fix this, whether it's their willpower or their power.

You have succeeded in being Captain Obvious once again. Do you have anything to share that everyone here doesn't already know?

[Fark user image image 598x488]

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"Let's see YOU do better!" isn't an accepted argument in any area.


It certainly isn't when you can't win.
 
UltimaCS
2023-01-29 7:07:54 PM  

quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: quiotu: Bith Set Me Up: Karma Chameleon: jook: Karma Chameleon: Democrats could've just raised it when they controlled congress.

They didn't so that you personally would be able to engage in your favorite pastime of arrogantly bashing Democrats for every perceived failing in the history of the world, so you really should be ecstatic.

None of what you said changes what I said

They're our elected officials, not gods.

Then why do you portray them having the power of gods when they don't do what you like?

Apparently, any sufficiently-advanced governance is indistinguishable from magic to moderates.

Let's be honest: the problem *isn't* that they lacked the political power, it's that they lacked the willpower.

When the super-wealthy want something, it *immediately* gets done (see: Congress screwing over railway workers).

When ordinary people want something, suddenly they want to take their time with it or aren't any able to do it at all (see: the 13+ years without any minimum wage increases).

You're not explaining how to fix this, whether it's their willpower or their power.

You have succeeded in being Captain Obvious once again. Do you have anything to share that everyone here doesn't already know?

[Fark user image image 598x488]

[Fark user image image 598x459]

"Let's see YOU do better!" isn't an accepted argument in any area.

It certainly isn't when you can't win.


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Republicans don't have any new ideas.
 
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