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(The Takeout)   I know it may seem Impossible to believe, almost Beyond belief, but it turns out consumers really don't like fake meat   (thetakeout.com) divider line
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560 clicks; posted to Food » on 29 Jan 2023 at 11:14 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2023-01-29 9:26:52 AM  
1. If you want to eat more healthily, just eat more actual vegetables.

2. Don't eat vegetables cooked in oil and grease and packed with salt and other preservatives.
 
2023-01-29 9:34:26 AM  
I like the impossible burger.
 
2023-01-29 9:37:22 AM  

Irving Maimway: I like the impossible burger.


So do my wife & I.
 
2023-01-29 9:41:07 AM  
I was looking at that stuff in the grocery store last night, because I was in the freezer section to get blueberries for my morning oatmeal.  That fake meat stuff is expensive.  A lot of money for just one serving, and not a very large serving either.  It doesn't seem worth it, especially when a pack of hog rectum kielbasa in the refrigerated section is half the price for twice the amount of food product.

Admittedly, that grocery store is more expensive than Walmart, but that is because it is a local grocery store and not an international conglomerate run by oligarchs.  But I am sure Walmart's fake meat is also more expensive than real meat.

But something I noticed as well.  Things like apple and potato sausage (with no meat) predate the trend of mushroom-based fake meat, and those older apple and potato sausages are priced decently and taste good.  Maybe don't use so much soybean and mushroom in your fake meat?  Meatlovers don't mind apple and potato sausages because apples and potatoes are still good.  But soybeans and mushrooms, not so much.
 
2023-01-29 9:55:03 AM  

Irving Maimway: I like the impossible burger.


growinthings: Irving Maimway: I like the impossible burger.

So do my wife & I.


Due to a medical condition, Mrs Farkie had to make some major dietary changes, including eliminating almost all red meat, so I've been incorporating plant-based versions where they work well for a given meal.

Impossible makes great taco filling.  It also grills nicely, and unlike Beyond, doesn't have a weird processed aftertaste.

If you're going to use it in chili, however, I would recommend seasoning and adding it during the last 15 minutes, rather than letting it cook for a couple hours, because it disintegrates pretty quickly.

As for pricing, it's generally $1 more a pound than 97% lean ground beef, and sometimes even less if they're blowing out stale inventory.
 
2023-01-29 9:58:57 AM  
And it's possible to eat healthy meatless meals without using things full of preservatives.  I tend to just dump stuff into the crockpot to see how it turns out, and I have noticed that chickpeas and lentils taste good and can work instead of meat.  Just ordinary dried chickpeas and lentils in those bulk bags.

And breakfast is rolled oats, frozen blueberries, and chopped walnuts.  But for my flavor vanity, I also add some brown sugar, which admittedly is a fairly heavily processed product even though it does not have those preservatives.  But that is it.

The Impossible and Beyond stuff isn't catered to people who normally eat healthy.  It is for people who like junk food, but want to eat allegedly healthy junk food.
 
2023-01-29 10:05:35 AM  
The Impossible Whopper tastes better when you add cheese and bacon to it
 
2023-01-29 10:25:51 AM  
Impossible is a little better than Beyond for burgers in my experience.  Probably a great thing if you're going meatless for whatever reason but still want meat-like experiences in your meals.  I could go either way and would pick up Impossible patties on sale, but at full price it's not enticing enough.
 
2023-01-29 10:59:54 AM  
I was at Sam's last weekend and a vegetable based chicken nugget sampler was out.  It was tasty and the texture was good.  So, I swing by the freezer case to check out the price.  Yikes!  Back to bulk packs of chicken and home chunking for nuggets.

Even buying local grown chickens with no additives is cheaper than buying plant based, loaded with processed chemicals, stuff.
 
2023-01-29 11:01:33 AM  
I'm waiting for lab-grown meat to become commercially viable. All the meat that tastes like meat without the "killing animals" part is the best of all worlds. Veggie "meat" is just not satisfying. And this coming from someone who likes veggies.
 
2023-01-29 11:09:32 AM  

Winterlight: I'm waiting for lab-grown meat to become commercially viable. All the meat that tastes like meat without the "killing animals" part is the best of all worlds. Veggie "meat" is just not satisfying. And this coming from someone who likes veggies.


Soylent Green is people.
 
2023-01-29 11:16:38 AM  

GardenWeasel: Soylent Green is people.


OMG SPOILERS
 
2023-01-29 11:22:47 AM  
Fake chicken is OK in a pinch. I've never found a fake beef or pork product I much care for.

Just go straight to the beans if you are wanting to go meatless for a bit.
 
2023-01-29 11:25:30 AM  
Lol no one in this thread knows what a preservative actually is. There's no preservatives in these products. Which is why they are sold frozen and when refrigerated, they have a shelf life of a week. You know, like real meat.

Beyond products are way too overseasoned and Impossible's solution to texture is bad. Neither are much better than a garden burger. The problem is using vegan protein which is still at least 5 years (probably 10) from being as clean tasting as whey.
 
2023-01-29 11:31:12 AM  
Eh, it's not bad. I don't need to performatively consume
 
2023-01-29 11:31:47 AM  

NM Volunteer: I was looking at that stuff in the grocery store last night, because I was in the freezer section to get blueberries for my morning oatmeal.  That fake meat stuff is expensive.  A lot of money for just one serving, and not a very large serving either.  It doesn't seem worth it, especially when a pack of hog rectum kielbasa in the refrigerated section is half the price for twice the amount of food product.

Admittedly, that grocery store is more expensive than Walmart, but that is because it is a local grocery store and not an international conglomerate run by oligarchs.  But I am sure Walmart's fake meat is also more expensive than real meat.

But something I noticed as well.  Things like apple and potato sausage (with no meat) predate the trend of mushroom-based fake meat, and those older apple and potato sausages are priced decently and taste good.  Maybe don't use so much soybean and mushroom in your fake meat?  Meatlovers don't mind apple and potato sausages because apples and potatoes are still good.  But soybeans and mushrooms, not so much.


You've clearly never had good versions of either.
 
2023-01-29 11:32:54 AM  
Winterlight: I'm waiting for lab-grown meat to become commercially viable. All the meat that tastes like meat without the "killing animals" part is the best of all worlds. Veggie "meat" is just not satisfying. And this coming from someone who likes veggies.

But how do I get stronger without consuming the souls of the fallen?
 
2023-01-29 11:36:28 AM  
I like it just fine especially since, unlike real meat, it doesn't put me in the emergency room. Even if it didn't hurt like hell, I can't afford the hospital bills.
 
2023-01-29 11:39:08 AM  

portnoyd: Lol no one in this thread knows what a preservative actually is. There's no preservatives in these products.


You are aware that salt is a preservative, yes? And they have plenty of salt in their products.
 
2023-01-29 11:44:59 AM  

GardenWeasel: Winterlight: I'm waiting for lab-grown meat to become commercially viable. All the meat that tastes like meat without the "killing animals" part is the best of all worlds. Veggie "meat" is just not satisfying. And this coming from someone who likes veggies.

Soylent Green is people.


They SAY it's mint chocolate.

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/I still can't believe the developers chose this name for a meal-replacement product.
 
2023-01-29 11:47:27 AM  

guinsu: NM Volunteer: I was looking at that stuff in the grocery store last night, because I was in the freezer section to get blueberries for my morning oatmeal.  That fake meat stuff is expensive.  A lot of money for just one serving, and not a very large serving either.  It doesn't seem worth it, especially when a pack of hog rectum kielbasa in the refrigerated section is half the price for twice the amount of food product.

Admittedly, that grocery store is more expensive than Walmart, but that is because it is a local grocery store and not an international conglomerate run by oligarchs.  But I am sure Walmart's fake meat is also more expensive than real meat.

But something I noticed as well.  Things like apple and potato sausage (with no meat) predate the trend of mushroom-based fake meat, and those older apple and potato sausages are priced decently and taste good.  Maybe don't use so much soybean and mushroom in your fake meat?  Meatlovers don't mind apple and potato sausages because apples and potatoes are still good.  But soybeans and mushrooms, not so much.

You've clearly never had good versions of either.


I lack the will and the money to buy good versions of either.

Besides, too much soybean gives me explosive diarrhea.
 
2023-01-29 12:04:33 PM  
Husband is vegetarian; I'll only buy Impossible or Beyond if they're on sale. Quorn and Gardein tend to be our meatless staples; texture, smell, and taste are better, especially the Quorn.
 
2023-01-29 12:10:11 PM  
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2023-01-29 12:20:58 PM  
Beyond Beef works well in chili or meatloaf. Any meal that requires ground beef really.
 
2023-01-29 12:24:05 PM  

NM Volunteer: I was looking at that stuff in the grocery store last night, because I was in the freezer section to get blueberries for my morning oatmeal.  That fake meat stuff is expensive.  A lot of money for just one serving, and not a very large serving either.  It doesn't seem worth it, especially when a pack of hog rectum kielbasa in the refrigerated section is half the price for twice the amount of food product.

Admittedly, that grocery store is more expensive than Walmart, but that is because it is a local grocery store and not an international conglomerate run by oligarchs.  But I am sure Walmart's fake meat is also more expensive than real meat.

But something I noticed as well.  Things like apple and potato sausage (with no meat) predate the trend of mushroom-based fake meat, and those older apple and potato sausages are priced decently and taste good.  Maybe don't use so much soybean and mushroom in your fake meat?  Meatlovers don't mind apple and potato sausages because apples and potatoes are still good.  But soybeans and mushrooms, not so much.


Mushrooms are awesome. And soybeans give us soy sauce and miso.
 
2023-01-29 12:29:50 PM  

bostonguy: 2. Don't eat vegetables cooked in oil and grease and packed with salt and other preservatives.


I mean, I'm masochistic. But that's just farking sick.
 
2023-01-29 12:34:21 PM  

azn_firebug: Husband is vegetarian; I'll only buy Impossible or Beyond if they're on sale. Quorn and Gardein tend to be our meatless staples; texture, smell, and taste are better, especially the Quorn.


Preach it!
Their burgers and chick'n chunks rock!
 
2023-01-29 1:26:49 PM  
It's good. But the taste reminds me of the cheap frozen patties.  So it should cost less. 🤷‍♂
 
2023-01-29 1:31:50 PM  

azn_firebug: Husband is vegetarian; I'll only buy Impossible or Beyond if they're on sale. Quorn and Gardein tend to be our meatless staples; texture, smell, and taste are better, especially the Quorn.


Daughter is mostly vegetarian. She will eat products with eggs and dairy in them. We use Quorn and Gardein for her. The Gardein ground "beef" works well in tacos, pasta sauce, and chili. I'm not as fond of the Quorn "chicken" products.

My wife and I still eat real meat, and our daughter doesn't object. We try to find restaurants that have vegetarian stuff available. Sadly, many just put an Impossible Burger on the menu and call it good.
 
2023-01-29 1:43:56 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: miso


Man something reminded me this stuff exists recently and I remembered making miso soup years and years ago but it just didn't stick for some reason... decided to give it another whirl and see what happens.  Man I am in love, kinda mad at the world for forgetting about it all these years.  I nearly always have tofu and dried shiatakes around these days so it's a no-brainer to keep a tub of miso around too.
 
2023-01-29 3:47:40 PM  
Beans and rice, kids.  Not fake meat.

In my poor-as-spit youth, I'd make a big pot of brown rice and throw in some adzuki beans. Walla. Complete protein.  If I made enough, it would last 3 days.
 
2023-01-29 4:00:59 PM  

yakmans_dad: Beans and rice, kids.  Not fake meat.

In my poor-as-spit youth, I'd make a big pot of brown rice and throw in some adzuki beans. Walla. Complete protein.  If I made enough, it would last 3 days.


How I survived my poorer days. Beans and rice and potatoes. As long as you have a bottle of hot sauce you can make it through
 
2023-01-29 8:36:49 PM  
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2023-01-29 8:37:39 PM  
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2023-01-29 9:44:53 PM  

middleoftheday: Tyrone Slothrop: miso

Man something reminded me this stuff exists recently and I remembered making miso soup years and years ago but it just didn't stick for some reason... decided to give it another whirl and see what happens.  Man I am in love, kinda mad at the world for forgetting about it all these years.  I nearly always have tofu and dried shiatakes around these days so it's a no-brainer to keep a tub of miso around too.


also consider
- gochujang (hot pepper paste)
- doenjang (miso + garlic, mushroom, mirin, ...)
- ssamjang (doenjang + gochujang)

I often use ssamjang in places I'd ordinarily use miso, but that's just me.
 
2023-01-30 10:28:32 AM  
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2023-01-30 10:33:56 AM  

bostonguy: 1. If you want to eat more healthily, just eat more actual vegetables.
2. Don't eat vegetables cooked in oil and grease and packed with salt and other preservatives.


Impossible Foods isn't marketing their product as a healthier alternative to meat.  They're marketing it as an ethically and environmentally friendlier alternative to meat.

/ also, add me to the list of people above who like Impossible burgers
 
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