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(Guardian)   JFC, have these people no shame? Liz Truss stages a comeback with "It's not my policies that were wrong, it was the lack of public support that was wrong". How do they still even exist outside the penalty box...Rupert?   (theguardian.com) divider line
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TaDu [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 8:11:52 AM  
Lack of shame is a prerequisite for contemporary conservatism.
 
August11 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 8:17:48 AM  
Acolytes of all the above believe their leaders' visions have been betrayed by someone or other in one way or another, when the reality is they were undone by such trifles as "the voters", "reality" and "the consequences of their own actions".

I am reminded to throw The Guardian some money.
 
gaslight [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 8:18:34 AM  
Good column. Thanks for posting it, subby.
 
Mangoose [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 8:51:19 AM  
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quiotu
2023-01-29 9:52:09 AM  
Britain is proof that someone trying to flee conservatives is fooling themselves.

Some places are worse than others, but you're never finding the paradise where they don't exist.

So maybe stop being a coward and start trying to find ways to help your home, instead of being desperate to escape it.
 
Snapper Carr
2023-01-29 9:52:14 AM  
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Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 9:55:05 AM  
Must be something in the water. Like polonium.
 
Phaedrus the Vague [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 9:55:23 AM  
Quite why this is the default narrative of UK public life is unclear, other than the fact the scorched-earth mess of it all has to be blamed on someone other than the people who just happened to be holding a blowtorch in the Westminster area at the time.

That's a good burn.
 
Olthoi
2023-01-29 9:56:15 AM  
Ah yes, the blame game. Conservatives are incapable of being wrong.
 
Bungles
2023-01-29 9:57:53 AM  

gaslight: Good column. Thanks for posting it, subby.


Marina Hyde is a national treasure, and the sole thing remaining in The Guardian that's a guaranteed informative (and hilarious) read.

The slow rotting of The Guardian over the last decade is a tragedy.
 
New Rising Sun
2023-01-29 10:01:43 AM  
In 2017, Nigel Farage explained that if he didn't get his perfect, shiftingly defined version of Brexit, he would "don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the frontlines"

That image is certainly worth a solid "L-O-L".   Also, would the 'frontlines' of Brexit really require khaki? I guess if he's purely going to hang out at the Brexit frontline in Gibraltar, but since they don't seem to give a damn about what Gibraltar wants that'd be surprising.
 
ukexpat
2023-01-29 10:07:03 AM  

Bungles: gaslight: Good column. Thanks for posting it, subby.

Marina Hyde is a national treasure, and the sole thing remaining in The Guardian that's a guaranteed informative (and hilarious) read.

The slow rotting of The Guardian over the last decade is a tragedy.


Her columns are always a good read.
 
Jeebus Saves
2023-01-29 10:10:21 AM  

Olthoi: Ah yes, the blame game. Conservatives are incapable of being wrong.


Yea, that's just a conservative problem.  Defunding the police is a great idea, it's the people that are wrong.
 
pehvbot [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 10:15:25 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Must be something in the water. Like polonium.


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There is lots of natural fluoride in the drinking water.  Just saying
 
thealgorerhythm
2023-01-29 10:18:31 AM  
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The lettuce had better policies and more gravitas. It's just facts.
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 10:18:33 AM  
Could the be heroes, not even one day.
 
no1curr [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 10:18:43 AM  
"Public support" is basically a polticiaboss (the public) giving you a performance evaluation, and you're being told your work stinks

Might be time to remind politicians who they should be working for. I'm thinking time to roll out the pillory and some rotten fruit
 
anuran
2023-01-29 10:18:56 AM  
Ye gawds. Russ Jones' The Week in Tory is actually understated
 
no1curr [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 10:19:20 AM  

no1curr: "Public support" is basically a poltician's boss (the public) giving them a performance evaluation, and being told their work stinks

Might be time to remind politicians who they should be working for. I'm thinking time to roll out the pillory and some rotten fruit


Fixed

//farking fat fingers
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 10:19:30 AM  
Could they be heroes, not even one day.

FTFM
 
Gergesa
2023-01-29 10:20:43 AM  
Having failed to get backing from her colleagues, the markets, business, the Bank of England, the public and experts from the Institute for Fiscal Studies and beyond, Liz was arguably a full six infinity stones short of a gauntlet.

I think they are trying a bit too hard with the metaphors to sound witty.
 
Aardvark Inc.
2023-01-29 10:23:33 AM  
"JFC, have these people no shame?"

No. No they do not. On a related note, here's Chumbawamba with a little muse on vacuous politicos...

Mouthful of Shit
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cefm
2023-01-29 10:24:13 AM  
What a buffoon. Not really sure which Tory I'm talking about. Not sure it matters.
 
Uncle Bester
2023-01-29 10:28:48 AM  

Gergesa: Having failed to get backing from her colleagues, the markets, business, the Bank of England, the public and experts from the Institute for Fiscal Studies and beyond, Liz was arguably a full six infinity stones short of a gauntlet.

I think they are trying a bit too hard with the metaphors to sound witty.


I disagree.
I love this.
And I'm stealing it.
 
Olthoi
2023-01-29 10:39:12 AM  

Jeebus Saves: Olthoi: Ah yes, the blame game. Conservatives are incapable of being wrong.

Yea, that's just a conservative problem.  Defunding the police is a great idea, it's the people that are wrong.


Defunding the police is a great idea. We need a new social service that answers 90% of the calls police get, staffed with social workers that do not carry guns.
 
Shamwow
2023-01-29 10:42:42 AM  
I see religious idiot is here to cover for conservative stupidity and incompetence. If anyone wonders why so many conmen, liars, fraudsters, thieves, rapists, molesters, and delusional idiots become conservative politicians is they know they will have people willing to "save" them from their actions.

Congratulations on ensuring evil, incompetence, stupidity, hatred, and anger grow. Jeebus is willing to excuse anyone as long as it continues his false belief that non conservatives are the bad people.
 
Guntram Shatterhand [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 10:43:47 AM  
Truss never did her history:  Dubya had the same thing attempted a few times after Obama got elected where a few idiots tried to reclaim his era to make him look better in hindsight.  And all of them were quickly shot down, abandoned, and forgotten.  I think they even tried to do the same during the very early Trump days (with the 'That was some crazy shiat' quote) but that was quickly forgotten about as any mention of his eight years of destruction also brings up the question 'why did we get involved in Iraq again' and was once again conveniently forgotten about.

The increasingly-mistitled 'Conservatism' can only be failed, never fail, and anybody who makes it looks as stupid as it truly is is sent to the political null folder.   And the common escape of hiding low until 'making a comeback' that they hope that sticks never works.  Truss is a loser, just like Dubya and his father, and will now be conveniently forgotten about.
 
Jeebus Saves
2023-01-29 10:45:30 AM  

Shamwow: I see religious idiot is here to cover for conservative stupidity and incompetence. If anyone wonders why so many conmen, liars, fraudsters, thieves, rapists, molesters, and delusional idiots become conservative politicians is they know they will have people willing to "save" them from their actions.

Congratulations on ensuring evil, incompetence, stupidity, hatred, and anger grow. Jeebus is willing to excuse anyone as long as it continues his false belief that non conservatives are the bad people.


You're all bad people.  The faster you come to terms with that, the better off you are.
 
UltimaCS
2023-01-29 10:56:52 AM  

quiotu: Britain is proof that someone trying to flee conservatives is fooling themselves.

Some places are worse than others, but you're never finding the paradise where they don't exist.

So maybe stop being a coward and start trying to find ways to help your home, instead of being desperate to escape it.


Nobody is quite as brave as Centrists with other people's lives.
 
thealgorerhythm
2023-01-29 11:01:06 AM  

2wolves: Could the be heroes, not even one day.


They could be herpes, forever and ever.
 
lostsatellite
2023-01-29 11:06:00 AM  

Jeebus Saves: Olthoi: Ah yes, the blame game. Conservatives are incapable of being wrong.

Yea, that's just a conservative problem.  Defunding the police is a great idea, it's the people that are wrong.


So it's not state security forces systematically terrorizing, beating and executing minorities for petty misdemeanors? And it's not the people calling for them to be defunded? Not sure you thought this through, but that's kind of the definition of 'reactionary.' Try less hard.
 
UndeadPoetsSociety
2023-01-29 11:11:27 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: The increasingly-mistitled 'Conservatism' can only be failed, never fail, and anybody who makes it looks as stupid as it truly is is sent to the political null folder.   And the common escape of hiding low until 'making a comeback' that they hope that sticks never works.  Truss is a loser, just like Dubya and his father, and will now be conveniently forgotten about.


What's mistitled about it? This is what conservatism is and always has been
 
gunther_bumpass
2023-01-29 11:37:21 AM  
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Jairzinho
2023-01-29 11:38:36 AM  

Olthoi: Ah yes, the blame game. Conservatives are incapable of being wrong.


Oh, they have proved time and again that they are very capable of being wrong. What they are incapable of doing is admitting that they are wrong.
 
wozzeck
2023-01-29 11:42:57 AM  
Can I posit a thought? Americans have a very poor understanding of the UK. After getting rid of the poorly toothed kingdom in that dustup of the 1770s, we know them only from their cultural exports. We therefore do not understand that the vast majority of that country/kingdom/commonwealth whatever the fark it is are, for the most part, a bunch of farking idiots inhabiting the rotting corpse of a former empire. They are not Pink Floyd, Doctor Who, Joy Division/New Order/ Britpop/the music of the classic three of the Beatles, the Who and the Rolling Stones, and reruns of Penelope Keith comedies. It is, rather, exactly the blighted island of shiat and morons the Sex Pistols warned us about.
 
padraig
2023-01-29 11:54:32 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Truss never did her history:  Dubya had the same thing attempted a few times after Obama got elected where a few idiots tried to reclaim his era to make him look better in hindsight.  And all of them were quickly shot down, abandoned, and forgotten.  I think they even tried to do the same during the very early Trump days (with the 'That was some crazy shiat' quote) but that was quickly forgotten about as any mention of his eight years of destruction also brings up the question 'why did we get involved in Iraq again' and was once again conveniently forgotten about.

The increasingly-mistitled 'Conservatism' can only be failed, never fail, and anybody who makes it looks as stupid as it truly is is sent to the political null folder.   And the common escape of hiding low until 'making a comeback' that they hope that sticks never works.  Truss is a loser, just like Dubya and his father, and will now be conveniently forgotten about.


The conservatives also got a healthy dose of reality check after Thatcher's death. The way their idea of a national funeral got smacked so hard, punctured the narrative they created that she was a beloved public figure.
 
covalesj
2023-01-29 11:55:01 AM  
I mean, she partially has a point... 'popular' is not always 'the best answer, ie: right'.  You can sell a lot shart by making in popular.  Look at Trump.  And look at Global Warming policy.
 
Zenith
2023-01-29 12:04:30 PM  
Look at it this way the more morons like Truss and Bozo attempt to rehabilitate themselves the more they stay in the the public eye and remind everyone how farking useless the tories are and it's for the best to vote for another party.
 
SirGunslinger
2023-01-29 12:14:03 PM  
They believe i Democracy in the same way they believe in Jesus.
 
Telephone Sanitizer Second Class
2023-01-29 12:14:31 PM  
I, for one, am impressed with how Liz Truss has managed to combine the gravitas of Boris Johnson with the raw sexuality of Margaret Thatcher.
 
SirGunslinger
2023-01-29 12:16:22 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Shamwow: I see religious idiot is here to cover for conservative stupidity and incompetence. If anyone wonders why so many conmen, liars, fraudsters, thieves, rapists, molesters, and delusional idiots become conservative politicians is they know they will have people willing to "save" them from their actions.

Congratulations on ensuring evil, incompetence, stupidity, hatred, and anger grow. Jeebus is willing to excuse anyone as long as it continues his false belief that non conservatives are the bad people.

You're all bad people.  The faster you come to terms with that, the better off you are.


If you think everyone is an asshole then that means you are the asshole.
 
SirGunslinger
2023-01-29 12:18:42 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Olthoi: Ah yes, the blame game. Conservatives are incapable of being wrong.

Yea, that's just a conservative problem.  Defunding the police is a great idea, it's the people that are wrong.


Well we have been defunding the house education for decades and you haven't given a shiat; teachers contribute far more to society than cops do.
 
quiotu
2023-01-29 12:19:45 PM  
UltimaCS: quiotu: Britain is proof that someone trying to flee conservatives is fooling themselves.

Some places are worse than others, but you're never finding the paradise where they don't exist.

So maybe stop being a coward and start trying to find ways to help your home, instead of being desperate to escape it.

Nobody is quite as brave as Centrists with other people's lives.

Why did you change the subject?
 
quiotu
2023-01-29 12:23:04 PM  

UltimaCS: quiotu: Britain is proof that someone trying to flee conservatives is fooling themselves.

Some places are worse than others, but you're never finding the paradise where they don't exist.

So maybe stop being a coward and start trying to find ways to help your home, instead of being desperate to escape it.

Nobody is quite as brave as Centrists with other people's lives.


The article, and the thread, are about conservatives.

Are you threadjacking? I know speaking of Centrists is basically Fauxgressive Tourette Syndrome, but that wasn't even a good threadjack.

That was garbage, step your game up.
 
DrD'isInfotainment [OhFark]
2023-01-29 12:48:55 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: I, for one, am impressed with how Liz Truss has managed to combine the gravitas of Boris Johnson with the raw sexuality of Margaret Thatcher.


and the pallor of Teresa May
 
Blathering Idjut
2023-01-29 12:53:54 PM  
Being a conservative is actually really appealing.

You get to go through life without any sense of self-doubt or guilt, certainly you don't have to care about anyone else unless they're in your immediate family circle and then only just barely.  

You always have the answers in front of you without having to do any of that annoying reading, or studying or research. The answers to everything in life are presented in 15-minute increments during your favorite cable news program.

No issue is complicated.  If it's too complex to understand without really informing yourself on it then it's written off as not a real issue, or fake news.  Everything else that's a problem in your life can be blamed on other people, or a group of other people.

You can be an expert on anything - the economy, immigration, geopolitics, immunology just by sitting on the toilet while looking at your phone.

You don't have to build or create anything.  You just have to destroy the work of others, or society in general.  Crushing the sandcastle is always more fun than building the thing in the first place.

There's no ennui, worry or wonder about your place in the universe or worry about the future of humankind.  Just you, you, you and you have all of the answers.  

Being a conservative means you have answers for everything while bearing responsibility for nothing at the same time. You never have to live with consequences of bad decisions because you're never wrong.  It's actually kind of a glorious way to get through life.
 
DeathByGeekSquad [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 1:00:52 PM  

TaDu: Lack of shame is a prerequisite for contemporary conservatism.


Find a politician with credible shame.  I'll wait.
 
anuran
2023-01-29 1:17:06 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: TaDu: Lack of shame is a prerequisite for contemporary conservatism.

Find a politician with credible shame.  I'll wait.


Katie Hill
 
Blathering Idjut
2023-01-29 1:17:37 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: TaDu: Lack of shame is a prerequisite for contemporary conservatism.

Find a politician with credible shame.  I'll wait.


You didn't even have time to grab a soda.

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anuran
2023-01-29 1:20:57 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: TaDu: Lack of shame is a prerequisite for contemporary conservatism.

Find a politician with credible shame.  I'll wait.


Earl Warren
Robert Byrd
 
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