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(The Direct)   Kevin Feige reveals the second main goal of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. (Number one being making a shait-load of money, of course)   (thedirect.com) divider line
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I Have A Bo Burnham GIF For That [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 8:46:18 PM  
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mjbok
2023-01-28 11:34:56 PM  
Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 11:37:33 PM  

mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.


Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.
 
mjbok
2023-01-28 11:39:23 PM  

EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.


Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 12:11:51 AM  

mjbok: EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.

Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.


No, that's technically true too. You'd never seen a movie before on Endgame's scale. Whether Endgame's particular scale was greater or lesser than the scale of any other movie is irrelevant. Only Endgame matched the scale of Endgame.

/I can do this all day.
 
6nome
2023-01-29 12:41:13 AM  
How much money a movie makes determines how good of a movie it is.
 
Concrete Donkey
2023-01-29 12:44:23 AM  
EdgeRunner:

No, that's technically true too. You'd never seen a movie before on Endgame's scale. Whether Endgame's particular scale was greater or lesser than the scale of any other movie is irrelevant. Only Endgame matched the scale of Endgame.


Prove that your statement is true
 
nytmare
2023-01-29 12:58:05 AM  
To wrap it up and give other action/adventure movie series a chance to exist.
 
6nome
2023-01-29 1:04:57 AM  

EdgeRunner: mjbok: EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.

Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.

No, that's technically true too. You'd never seen a movie before on Endgame's scale. Whether Endgame's particular scale was greater or lesser than the scale of any other movie is irrelevant. Only Endgame matched the scale of Endgame.

/I can do this all day.


So in other words - Endgame was as unique as Hot Tub Time Machine 2?
 
Alphax
2023-01-29 4:35:50 AM  
I never heard of The Direct, but it seems my work filters don't want to let it through.

On the other hand, I saw this.  I dunno how trustworthy it is, either.

Marvel Fans Forever
·
The past, present & the future...
Infinity Saga - Thanos
Multiverse Saga - Kang the Conqueror
Timeless Saga - Doctor Doom
Eternity Saga - Galactus
#MarvelCinematicUniverse

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It may be fan speculation.
 
Capo Del Bandito
2023-01-29 5:28:57 AM  

I Have A Bo Burnham GIF For That: [Fark user image 448x252] [View Full Size image _x_]


Gods damned do you always encapsulate the feeling with a gif. I want to adopt babies with you.
 
LL316
2023-01-29 6:38:31 AM  
FWIW - Watching Love and Thunder and then finally seeing Aquaman made me dislike Eternals a lot less.
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 7:03:36 AM  

Concrete Donkey: EdgeRunner:

No, that's technically true too. You'd never seen a movie before on Endgame's scale. Whether Endgame's particular scale was greater or lesser than the scale of any other movie is irrelevant. Only Endgame matched the scale of Endgame.


Prove that your statement is true


Endgame = Endgame.
Other movies = other movies.
Other movies ≠ Endgame.

Now your turn. Can you prove the above is false?
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 9:21:39 AM  
Well it was sort of the high point of the Marvel universe. After Endgame, almost all the movies are about the "B team"

/Ant Man and Guardians of the galaxy excepted
 
Magnus Eisengrim
2023-01-29 9:35:33 AM  

Mugato: Well it was sort of the high point of the Marvel universe. After Endgame, almost all the movies are about the "B team"

/Ant Man and Guardians of the galaxy excepted


The problem isn't that the new movies are about the "B" team. Guardians of the Galaxy showed that this could work extremely well.

The problem is that the new movies are being produced by the "D" team. It's like they held a meeting and said "OK, we're about to start Phase 4. Everyone with talent please leave the room; your services are no longer required".
 
thornhill
2023-01-29 9:56:28 AM  

Mugato: Well it was sort of the high point of the Marvel universe. After Endgame, almost all the movies are about the "B team"

/Ant Man and Guardians of the galaxy excepted


And it doesn't seem like they're bringing in new actors who can sustain the franchise for the next 5 to 10 years - it feels like they're in this treading-water phase, squeezing as much life as they can get out of "legacy" actors who probably should call their current or next movie the last, like Rudd and Hemsworth.
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-01-29 10:32:47 AM  

thornhill: Mugato: Well it was sort of the high point of the Marvel universe. After Endgame, almost all the movies are about the "B team"

/Ant Man and Guardians of the galaxy excepted

And it doesn't seem like they're bringing in new actors who can sustain the franchise for the next 5 to 10 years - it feels like they're in this treading-water phase, squeezing as much life as they can get out of "legacy" actors who probably should call their current or next movie the last, like Rudd and Hemsworth.


The problem is, I think, that audiences want "more of the same, only better".  We want to feel how we felt about that first Iron Man movie.  And we think we need another Iron Man movie to do that, with RDJ in the role.  Character and story progression make this impossible to do more than a handful of times, and that's before you start worrying about the actors getting too old for it.

Then there's the issue of escalating stakes... they always want to make things bigger.  You know what?  At some point you're saving the universe and there's just nothing more to do.  It's a dead end strategy.

For an eternal series, you have to stick to the basics, let your characters get permanently killed or age out, and keep a lid on the escalation issue.  The stories have to stay small enough to make sense - when you have interplanetary armies attacking, yet expect your audience to see one small group of people fight for the good guys... sorry, but the big Wakanda fight looked really dumb.  It just doesn't work.
 
Veloram
2023-01-29 11:04:38 AM  

Alphax: I never heard of The Direct, but it seems my work filters don't want to let it through.

On the other hand, I saw this.  I dunno how trustworthy it is, either.

Marvel Fans Forever
·
The past, present & the future...
Infinity Saga - Thanos
Multiverse Saga - Kang the Conqueror
Timeless Saga - Doctor Doom
Eternity Saga - Galactus
#MarvelCinematicUniverse

[Fark user image 850x566]

It may be fan speculation.


Infinity, Timeless, Eternity... sounds more like a commercial for diamonds than a setup for comic book characters
 
Noah_Tall
2023-01-29 11:10:35 AM  

nytmare: To wrap it up and give other action/adventure movie series a chance to exist.


There were well over 100 action movies released in 2022.  3 of them were Marvel movies.

Now go scream Anheuser-Busch that they need to stop selling Bud Light so that other drinks have a chance to exist.
 
Mentat [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 1:33:33 PM  

thornhill: And it doesn't seem like they're bringing in new actors who can sustain the franchise for the next 5 to 10 years - it feels like they're in this treading-water phase, squeezing as much life as they can get out of "legacy" actors who probably should call their current or next movie the last, like Rudd and Hemsworth.


My guess is they'll do a soft reboot after Secret Wars and start bringing all of the old characters back with new actors.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 1:35:11 PM  

Veloram: Alphax: I never heard of The Direct, but it seems my work filters don't want to let it through.

On the other hand, I saw this.  I dunno how trustworthy it is, either.

Marvel Fans Forever
·
The past, present & the future...
Infinity Saga - Thanos
Multiverse Saga - Kang the Conqueror
Timeless Saga - Doctor Doom
Eternity Saga - Galactus
#MarvelCinematicUniverse

[Fark user image 850x566]

It may be fan speculation.

Infinity, Timeless, Eternity... sounds more like a commercial for diamonds than a setup for comic book characters


All I know is I wish I'd peed first.
 
bostonguy [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 3:12:04 PM  

mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?


Probably the best time I'll ever have in a cinema was during the rings sequence right as the final battle was beginning*. Everyone stood up in the cinema and was cheering. (Here's someone's footage.) It was amazing.

But Endgame was the climax. Everything before built up to it. Everything since then is epilogue and can never bring back that magic. For me, the MCU is pretty much over.

* Even the audience cheering during the beginning of Star Wars: Episode 7 was not that big.
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2023-01-29 3:22:42 PM  

bostonguy: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

Probably the best time I'll ever have in a cinema was during the rings sequence right as the final battle was beginning*. Everyone stood up in the cinema and was cheering. (Here's someone's footage.) It was amazing.

But Endgame was the climax. Everything before built up to it. Everything since then is epilogue and can never bring back that magic. For me, the MCU is pretty much over.

* Even the audience cheering during the beginning of Star Wars: Episode 7 was not that big.


I hate people who farking cheer during movies.
 
bostonguy [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 3:24:08 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: bostonguy: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

Probably the best time I'll ever have in a cinema was during the rings sequence right as the final battle was beginning*. Everyone stood up in the cinema and was cheering. (Here's someone's footage.) It was amazing.

But Endgame was the climax. Everything before built up to it. Everything since then is epilogue and can never bring back that magic. For me, the MCU is pretty much over.

* Even the audience cheering during the beginning of Star Wars: Episode 7 was not that big.

I hate people who farking cheer during movies.


In general, yes. But that scene was amazing.
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2023-01-29 3:26:50 PM  

bostonguy: DeathByGeekSquad: bostonguy: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

Probably the best time I'll ever have in a cinema was during the rings sequence right as the final battle was beginning*. Everyone stood up in the cinema and was cheering. (Here's someone's footage.) It was amazing.

But Endgame was the climax. Everything before built up to it. Everything since then is epilogue and can never bring back that magic. For me, the MCU is pretty much over.

* Even the audience cheering during the beginning of Star Wars: Episode 7 was not that big.

I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

In general, yes. But that scene was amazing.


No, to me it was about people wanting to make the scene about them and their need for a collective celebration, rather than being absorbed in the moment provided by the film.  It doesn't need a cheer track, and the cheering detracts from the power of the moment.
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 3:28:32 PM  

bostonguy: Everyone stood up in the cinema and was cheering. (Here's someone's footage.) It was amazing.


I never got that. Who are they cheering, the projectionist?
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 3:28:45 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I hate people who farking cheer during movies.


If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.
 
bostonguy [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 3:36:07 PM  

Mugato: bostonguy: Everyone stood up in the cinema and was cheering. (Here's someone's footage.) It was amazing.

I never got that. Who are they cheering, the projectionist?


Have you never cried at a movie? Laughed? It's a human reaction.

EdgeRunner:

If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.

THIS.
 
covfefe [TotalFark]
2023-01-29 3:46:18 PM  

EdgeRunner: DeathByGeekSquad: I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.


People used to applaud if they liked the movie and not if they didn't, so the theater could decide if it was good enough to keep showing. This was before Socialism.
 
Gnaglor
2023-01-29 3:53:26 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: I Have A Bo Burnham GIF For That: [Fark user image 448x252] [View Full Size image _x_]

Gods damned do you always encapsulate the feeling with a gif. I want to adopt babies with you.


You know that's actually Bo Burnham and he makes gifs specifically for the Fark threads he posts in, right?
 
paulleah
2023-01-29 5:41:27 PM  

mjbok: EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.

Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.


I don't think I had ever seen a buildup like that.
i loved it.

Of course, I love movies more than I like to complain. So your mileage may vary.
 
mjbok
2023-01-29 5:46:19 PM  

paulleah: mjbok: EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.

Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.

I don't think I had ever seen a buildup like that.
i loved it.

Of course, I love movies more than I like to complain. So your mileage may vary.


The movie (and the series) was and incredible achievement, but god did they drag that ending out.
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 6:01:01 PM  

mjbok: paulleah: mjbok: EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.

Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.

I don't think I had ever seen a buildup like that.
i loved it.

Of course, I love movies more than I like to complain. So your mileage may vary.

The movie (and the series) was and incredible achievement, but god did they drag that ending out.


After a decade-long lead up, they were entitled to indulge themselves a little. Besides, as ridiculous as the entire final battle was, it was also the best live action representation of two-page comic book splash art that anyone's ever done.
 
lilplatinum
2023-01-29 6:04:58 PM  

EdgeRunner: DeathByGeekSquad: I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.


It's exemplary of the worst thing about going to the movies.  Other people
 
ReaverZ
2023-01-29 6:50:58 PM  

Magnus Eisengrim: Mugato: Well it was sort of the high point of the Marvel universe. After Endgame, almost all the movies are about the "B team"

/Ant Man and Guardians of the galaxy excepted

The problem isn't that the new movies are about the "B" team. Guardians of the Galaxy showed that this could work extremely well.

The problem is that the new movies are being produced by the "D" team. It's like they held a meeting and said "OK, we're about to start Phase 4. Everyone with talent please leave the room; your services are no longer required".


I would say the issue is they are trying to make the movies like a TV, with back door pilots for the next spin off. Usually two spin offs, one for the next new character or one to connect to the next crossover movie. This means there are 3 plots going on, and they are being given almost equal weight. It distracts from the main plot, ie the story. It doesn't work. The phase 1-3 movies worked because they were focused on one story and threw in at the end or the macguffin was part of the expanded universe. This makes a focused tight movie, those are good. Terminator 1+2, Alien, Aliens, Predator, Star Wars, Titanic, Laurence of Arabia, Hero, Kung Fu Hustle, Infernal Affairs, Ghost in the Shell, tell tight single stories.

Expansive, multi plot stories work on TV because you have more time.
 
ReaverZ
2023-01-29 6:52:42 PM  

mjbok: paulleah: mjbok: EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.

Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.

I don't think I had ever seen a buildup like that.
i loved it.

Of course, I love movies more than I like to complain. So your mileage may vary.

The movie (and the series) was and incredible achievement, but god did they drag that ending out.


it was long but it was needed to wrap the series. Not like Lord of the Rings which would not end!!
 
mjbok
2023-01-29 6:54:51 PM  

ReaverZ: it was long but it was needed to wrap the series. Not like Lord of the Rings which would not end!!


That is exactly how I saw the end of this phase, just like LOTR.  So much navel gazing and cinematic masturbation about Stark's death.
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 7:33:28 PM  

lilplatinum: EdgeRunner: DeathByGeekSquad: I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.

It's exemplary of the worst thing about going to the movies.  Other people


So don't go. Problem solved.
 
brigid_fitch
2023-01-29 8:15:12 PM  
As an old-school comic-fan, the wife of a comic book writer, and a female, Marvel can keep bringing us more heroines.  She-Hulk & Wandavision hit it out of the park for me (I was always a fan of them & have even cosplayed both).  They've come a long way from leaving Black Widow out of the Avenger toys but still have a long way to go.  I know I've got a long wait for Jean Grey, but they can bring in Dazzler (X-Men Dazzler, not Disco-era Dazzler), Spider-Woman, Mockingbird, Magik--any of them could have their own movie or show.
 
Noah_Tall
2023-01-29 8:15:54 PM  

ReaverZ: mjbok: paulleah: mjbok: EdgeRunner: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

It wasn't even the best MCU film.

Nothing else entertained like Endgame, because technically Endgame is the only movie that could entertain like Endgame. Other movies could only entertain like themselves.

Actually the quote was "Avengers: Endgame was a spectacle on a scale never before seen" which is not true either.

I don't think I had ever seen a buildup like that.
i loved it.

Of course, I love movies more than I like to complain. So your mileage may vary.

The movie (and the series) was and incredible achievement, but god did they drag that ending out.

it was long but it was needed to wrap the series. Not like Lord of the Rings which would not end!!


It ended. like 5 times in a row.
 
Noah_Tall
2023-01-29 8:20:51 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: bostonguy: DeathByGeekSquad: bostonguy: mjbok: Endgame entertained like nothing else before it?

Probably the best time I'll ever have in a cinema was during the rings sequence right as the final battle was beginning*. Everyone stood up in the cinema and was cheering. (Here's someone's footage.) It was amazing.

But Endgame was the climax. Everything before built up to it. Everything since then is epilogue and can never bring back that magic. For me, the MCU is pretty much over.

* Even the audience cheering during the beginning of Star Wars: Episode 7 was not that big.

I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

In general, yes. But that scene was amazing.

No, to me it was about people wanting to make the scene about them and their need for a collective celebration, rather than being absorbed in the moment provided by the film.  It doesn't need a cheer track, and the cheering detracts from the power of the moment.


That depends.  First time through yes. Either quietly exclaim to yourself (like the "yes!" I whispered when we first saw Cap with the hammer) or STFU because otherwise you drown out important dialogue.  But if you are at a showing where everybody has seen it multiple times go ahead and cheer. Make it a group experience.
 
lilplatinum
2023-01-29 9:24:23 PM  

EdgeRunner: lilplatinum: EdgeRunner: DeathByGeekSquad: I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.

It's exemplary of the worst thing about going to the movies.  Other people

So don't go. Problem solved.


Or other people could just be not clap at people who can't hear them clapping.  And stop using their phones.  And dress better.  And stop being fat and chewing with their mouth open.
 
TDWCom29
2023-01-29 9:28:14 PM  

lilplatinum: EdgeRunner: lilplatinum: EdgeRunner: DeathByGeekSquad: I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.

It's exemplary of the worst thing about going to the movies.  Other people

So don't go. Problem solved.

Or other people could just be not clap at people who can't hear them clapping.  And stop using their phones.  And dress better.  And stop being fat and chewing with their mouth open.


And why don't people just sit down at concerts?
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-29 9:38:49 PM  

lilplatinum: EdgeRunner: lilplatinum: EdgeRunner: DeathByGeekSquad: I hate people who farking cheer during movies.

If it's an honest reaction and not obnoxiously over the top, that's one of the things people (okay, other people) enjoy about the movies. The spontaneous crowd response.

It's exemplary of the worst thing about going to the movies.  Other people

So don't go. Problem solved.

Or other people could just be not clap at people who can't hear them clapping.  And stop using their phones.  And dress better.  And stop being fat and chewing with their mouth open.


When people cheer on a game they're watching on TV, it must absolutely challenge your entire worldview.
 
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