Pay me and pay for the stadium that I want built to house my shiatty football team so I can over charge all you assholes for tickets and beer and soda and food and still have a shiatty team.

But tell me more how having a system that doesn't relegate or financially punish the worst teams is somehow the best option.

the1hatman: saywhonow: But tell me more how having a system that doesn't relegate or financially punish the worst teams is somehow the best option.

As it pertains to American football? Yes this is the best option. Or more accurately, the only realistic option here.

1. No one in the US is going to invest the billions of dollars needed to purchase a franchise or on stadium construction if there is even a chance that 1, or even a few, seasons' worth of poor performance could drastically devalue said investment.
2. Where are you going to relegate losing NFL franchises to, the NCAA? The CFL?

People need to stop acting like there is a direct correlation between European soccer and the NFL. Different sports, markets, culture, financial requirements and feeder systems entirely. You can't copy and paste the structure from one to another. It's like trying to splice reptile DNA into a palm tree.

This has nothing to do with European soccer. This has everything to do with a money making model that has zero negatives. You don't have to produce a good team. Just having a team means you can do whatever you want because otherwise "fark you. Pay me or we'll go to socal". This team was the worst in the division. A division that has the Vikings and the Lions. Now, I'll concede that both had at least marginally average seasons, but the point is this team is able to make financial demands of the state and city or else they'll take their team somewhere else. And the we're bottom of their division. One of two teams who tied for last place in the whole league. And they want tax breaks or else. They shouldn't be in the league at all and the fact that you don't have to perform as a farking organization but can still make demands with threats of leaving is the dumbest farking system we could have built. It would have made more sense to just have city owned and run teams.

UNC_Samurai: saywhonow: the1hatman: saywhonow: But tell me more how having a system that doesn't relegate or financially punish the worst teams is somehow the best option.

As it pertains to American football? Yes this is the best option. Or more accurately, the only realistic option here.

1. No one in the US is going to invest the billions of dollars needed to purchase a franchise or on stadium construction if there is even a chance that 1, or even a few, seasons' worth of poor performance could drastically devalue said investment.
2. Where are you going to relegate losing NFL franchises to, the NCAA? The CFL?

People need to stop acting like there is a direct correlation between European soccer and the NFL. Different sports, markets, culture, financial requirements and feeder systems entirely. You can't copy and paste the structure from one to another. It's like trying to splice reptile DNA into a palm tree.

This has nothing to do with European soccer. This has everything to do with a money making model that has zero negatives. You don't have to produce a good team. Just having a team means you can do whatever you want because otherwise "fark you. Pay me or we'll go to socal". This team was the worst in the division. A division that has the Vikings and the Lions. Now, I'll concede that both had at least marginally average seasons, but the point is this team is able to make financial demands of the state and city or else they'll take their team somewhere else. And the we're bottom of their division. One of two teams who tied for last place in the whole league. And they want tax breaks or else. They shouldn't be in the league at all and the fact that you don't have to perform as a farking organization but can still make demands with threats of leaving is the dumbest farking system we could have built. It would have made more sense to just have city owned and run teams.

It has everything to do with the structure of association football versus North American sports leagues.  We have a franchise model, where the league exists because owners pay a fee to have a team in a specific league.

There's no "American Football Association" that oversees the sport at multiple levels. And the NFL/its owners would never in a million years agree to a system where they get kicked out of the big money-making tier.  So relegation and the apparatus that would allow it to exist are a non-starter.

Fair point. We need to collectively agree as a country that we're not going to pay for football team's stadiums anymore. No tax breaks or kickbacks or whatever. Like no. No tax break or whatever for you. Call their bluff. Or if it's not a bluff, let them go. fark it. They'll grift somewhere else. I am geographically a lions supporter, but the best thing that could happen would be for them to leave. For all parties.