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August11 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 7:06:28 AM  
Here's a summary of TFA: if you go to a fine dining establishment, don't order the poor-people dishes.
 
blacknite [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 7:33:21 AM  

August11: Here's a summary of TFA: if you go to a fine dining establishment, don't order the poor-people dishes.


this.  except screw your expectations article, i love bread.
 
HugeMistake [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 7:38:12 AM  
The first one on the list is called "anchoring" and it is a technique widely used by marketers. It works because most of us have no idea how much a fine wine is "worth" so our brain goes "if the top-priced one is worth $50 a glass, this other one at $20 a glass must be reasonable".
 
August11 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 8:20:37 AM  

blacknite: August11: Here's a summary of TFA: if you go to a fine dining establishment, don't order the poor-people dishes.

this.  except screw your expectations article, i love bread.


Yeah the article is stupid in so many ways.

If you order lobster Mac and cheese at a fine restaurant, you are either a cretinous slob or a personal-finance buffoon.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 10:30:54 AM  
What the actual?  They're ordering food based on the quantity of a certain ingredient?  This is the same person that steals restaurant silverware.
 
Unobtanium [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 10:47:26 AM  
"Expensive" Such as McDonalds?
 
HeathenHealer [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 11:10:37 AM  
Well I didn't see chicken tenders on that list so I'm good.
 
Dallymo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 11:17:15 AM  
A version of this story was originally published on October 16, 2022. It has been updated to include new information.

New shiat came to light about shrimp cocktail?
 
Man On A Mission [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 11:19:01 AM  

Dallymo: A version of this story was originally published on October 16, 2022. It has been updated to include new information.

New shiat came to light about shrimp cocktail?


The Shrimp Cocktail Institute has been involved in some cutting edge research. They've made a number of vital cocktail sauce breakthroughs just in the past few months.
 
Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 11:32:57 AM  
I always ask them to prove they've got a Michelin star by showing me their tire selection.
 
bifster [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 12:46:52 PM  

HugeMistake: The first one on the list is called "anchoring" and it is a technique widely used by marketers. It works because most of us have no idea how much a fine wine is "worth" so our brain goes "if the top-priced one is worth $50 a glass, this other one at $20 a glass must be reasonable".



Anchoring is a key negotiation skill for sales. Been in sales all my life starting at Xerox & their extensive sales training. Taken several negotiation training courses as well.

'Customers similar sizes to you paid $XXX' - wait for reaction from customer 'we can't afford that'. Respond with 'let me see what I can do'. It always starts at the high side of reasonable & it is a great way to help determine what their budget is or if they have a budget.

Also happens with contractors - 'did a roofing job last week that was similar in size & it cost $XXX.... that's too much!....'

They do it because it works.
 
Dallymo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 12:53:38 PM  

Man On A Mission: Dallymo: A version of this story was originally published on October 16, 2022. It has been updated to include new information.

New shiat came to light about shrimp cocktail?

The Shrimp Cocktail Institute has been involved in some cutting edge research. They've made a number of vital cocktail sauce breakthroughs just in the past few months.


They're doing God's work.

I do love shrimp cocktail, though, mostly for the time when my kid was in third grade and we got upgraded to first class on a long flight and they served him shrimp cocktail, and he turned to me, just beaming, and said, "We should fly first class every time!"
 
Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste
2023-01-28 1:14:54 PM  
1. I love charcuterie/cheese boards but they're wildly expensive for what you get.
2. I love mushrooms and mushroom flavor but can't stand truffles. Good way to zonk your food and ruin the flavor.
3. Kobe died three years ago. We should stop eating his flesh.
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 1:38:13 PM  
If I go to a high-end place its more likely I am simply having an appetizer and cocktail in the lounge rather than a full meal. Since lobster mac and cheese pairs well with cocktails I enjoy I must disagree with TFA on that. The only time I have been disappointed having that combination was at a place at an airport that tried to appear high-end but seemed to simply be microwaving pre-prepared stuff instead of running a full kitchen.
 
austerity101
2023-01-28 1:52:26 PM  
However, Gunderson said it's OK to order ice cream if it's sourced from a local ice cream parlor or if the restaurant makes its own ice cream.

If I'm at an expensive restaurant, I would expect one of those to be the case. Why wouldn't it be?
 
Brandi Morgan
2023-01-28 1:57:21 PM  
1. I love charcuterie/cheese boards but they're wildly expensive for what you get.

Expensive, but probably cheaper than trying to recreate at home.  If you have 4 or 5 meats, 4 or 5 cheeses and olives, condiments, crackers, etc it's going to cost a lot more that what you'd pay at a resturant.
 
stamped human bacon
2023-01-28 2:06:29 PM  
Under-done steaks, like that one.
/ducks and covers
 
Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist
2023-01-28 2:06:52 PM  
With authentic Kobe, I can't get past the notes of helicopter.
 
Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist
2023-01-28 2:10:44 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: 1. I love charcuterie/cheese boards but they're wildly expensive for what you get.
2. I love mushrooms and mushroom flavor but can't stand truffles. Good way to zonk your food and ruin the flavor.
3. Kobe died three years ago. We should stop eating his flesh.


*shakes tiny fist rotary*
 
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu
2023-01-28 2:13:09 PM  
As I read through the items this just seemed to be saying "don't eat at overpriced clichéd steakhouses."  Then of course the last two items were steak.
 
Axeofjudgement
2023-01-28 2:14:11 PM  
Lemme guess bread and carbs
 
tjsands1118
2023-01-28 2:19:07 PM  

August11: blacknite: August11: Here's a summary of TFA: if you go to a fine dining establishment, don't order the poor-people dishes.

this.  except screw your expectations article, i love bread.

Yeah the article is stupid in so many ways.

If you order lobster Mac and cheese at a fine restaurant, you are either a cretinous slob or a personal-finance buffoon.


My friend work at the local Hilton restaurant, brought us left over lobster mac & cheese, tasty enough, but apparently it's just the left over lobster bisque mixed with pasta and cheese for $32 (2009 prices).
 
Axeofjudgement
2023-01-28 2:22:24 PM  
Well got a few of those bullet points right. Gunderson sounds like a pretentious douche.

I like steak. Sometimes I want really good steak. I don't need some masterful showcase of the chefs skills and unusual ingredients, if Sometimes that's fun. Sometimes, often, I want a good quality hunk of red meat lightly seasoned that showcases a delicious animal.

But yeah if I want fish and chips I'm finding a pub, not going to fine dining.
 
natazha [BareFark]
2023-01-28 2:24:25 PM  
Wagyu beef - suet with meat flakes.
 
Axeofjudgement
2023-01-28 2:24:32 PM  

tjsands1118: August11: blacknite: August11: Here's a summary of TFA: if you go to a fine dining establishment, don't order the poor-people dishes.

this.  except screw your expectations article, i love bread.

Yeah the article is stupid in so many ways.

If you order lobster Mac and cheese at a fine restaurant, you are either a cretinous slob or a personal-finance buffoon.

My friend work at the local Hilton restaurant, brought us left over lobster mac & cheese, tasty enough, but apparently it's just the left over lobster bisque mixed with pasta and cheese for $32 (2009 prices).


The garden Inn in nolins actually had a pretty decent seafood pasta. Stayed there a few times, and while it doesn't touch on the real stuff in Nolins sometimes you just want to go to the hotel and have a few beers, eat and crash out.

Overly expensive? Yes. Adequate? Sure. Per diem? Don't care.

Garden inns also used to have an ok black bean burger.
 
Axeofjudgement
2023-01-28 2:30:16 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: 1. I love charcuterie/cheese boards but they're wildly expensive for what you get.
2. I love mushrooms and mushroom flavor but can't stand truffles. Good way to zonk your food and ruin the flavor.
3. Kobe died three years ago. We should stop eating his flesh.

*shakes tiny fist rotary*


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abhorrent1
2023-01-28 2:51:28 PM  
NEWS FLASH! High priced restaurants are overpriced.  Also, I've never been to a restaurant that charges for, or you have to order bread.
 
August11 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 3:25:34 PM  

tjsands1118: August11: blacknite: August11: Here's a summary of TFA: if you go to a fine dining establishment, don't order the poor-people dishes.

this.  except screw your expectations article, i love bread.

Yeah the article is stupid in so many ways.

If you order lobster Mac and cheese at a fine restaurant, you are either a cretinous slob or a personal-finance buffoon.

My friend work at the local Hilton restaurant, brought us left over lobster mac & cheese, tasty enough, but apparently it's just the left over lobster bisque mixed with pasta and cheese for $32 (2009 prices).


Sounds about right.
 
Tarl3k
2023-01-28 3:31:16 PM  
Spoiler alert:  If you're eating at high-end restaurants, you're paying too much for the food, and you're just paying for the experience.  If you're okay with that, knock yourself out.  Otherwise, find a good hole in the wall place if you want good food...
 
433 [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 3:32:31 PM  
That article absolutely belongs on that website.

My most least liked part were the eat that suggestions, as if they are reasonable things to be asking a waiter that far into the game.
 
Gough
2023-01-28 3:32:51 PM  
I liked one of the alternatives to ordering a charcuterie board:  shop local.  I think I can count the number of local providers on one hand...with a closed fist.
 
Axeofjudgement
2023-01-28 3:46:38 PM  

Tarl3k: Spoiler alert:  If you're eating at high-end restaurants, you're paying too much for the food, and you're just paying for the experience.  If you're okay with that, knock yourself out.  Otherwise, find a good hole in the wall place if you want good food...


Brazilian steak house... you can make your money worth the experience
 
eyeq360 [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 3:51:29 PM  

HugeMistake: The first one on the list is called "anchoring" and it is a technique widely used by marketers. It works because most of us have no idea how much a fine wine is "worth" so our brain goes "if the top-priced one is worth $50 a glass, this other one at $20 a glass must be reasonable".


Same thing with salespeople steering you to the kost
 
eyeq360 [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 3:56:31 PM  

HugeMistake: The first one on the list is called "anchoring" and it is a technique widely used by marketers. It works because most of us have no idea how much a fine wine is "worth" so our brain goes "if the top-priced one is worth $50 a glass, this other one at $20 a glass must be reasonable".


It's also why salespeople will take you the most expensive item and not the cheapest one. They send you to the cheapest one and you're not likely to spend much more than that. They send you to the most expensive one, you're going to opt for a less-expensive one and it's still likely more than you intended to spend.
 
Tailspin Tommy
2023-01-28 3:58:43 PM  
Why would anybody pay attention to someone who thinks that it takes some special magical chef skills to cook a farking a duck breast or some fish?
 
Tarl3k
2023-01-28 4:03:54 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Tarl3k: Spoiler alert:  If you're eating at high-end restaurants, you're paying too much for the food, and you're just paying for the experience.  If you're okay with that, knock yourself out.  Otherwise, find a good hole in the wall place if you want good food...

Brazilian steak house... you can make your money worth the experience


Totally agree, but that's not the fine dining that this article is talking about.  I can rail against fine dining for days, and this article highlights a lot of the reasons why. :)
 
Axeofjudgement
2023-01-28 4:06:01 PM  

Tarl3k: Axeofjudgement: Tarl3k: Spoiler alert:  If you're eating at high-end restaurants, you're paying too much for the food, and you're just paying for the experience.  If you're okay with that, knock yourself out.  Otherwise, find a good hole in the wall place if you want good food...

Brazilian steak house... you can make your money worth the experience

Totally agree, but that's not the fine dining that this article is talking about.  I can rail against fine dining for days, and this article highlights a lot of the reasons why. :)


Absolutely. Sorry that was me being in complete agreement with you.

I'm not 100% "fine dining" would let Me in the door these days
 
leeksfromchichis [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 4:31:05 PM  

blacknite: August11: Here's a summary of TFA: if you go to a fine dining establishment, don't order the poor-people dishes.

this.  except screw your expectations article, i love bread.


Bread is great, but expensive at restaurants.  Go to a breadstraunt.
 
RogermcAllen [OhFark]
2023-01-28 4:35:19 PM  

HugeMistake: The first one on the list is called "anchoring" and it is a technique widely used by marketers. It works because most of us have no idea how much a fine wine is "worth" so our brain goes "if the top-priced one is worth $50 a glass, this other one at $20 a glass must be reasonable".


Anchoring is a much better word, because Decoy actually puts out good wines at a good price.  The Decoy wine is often a very good choice.
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whatshisname [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 4:49:31 PM  
Do restaurants still serve shrimp cocktail? It's peak 70's.
 
Gough
2023-01-28 4:52:42 PM  

abhorrent1: NEWS FLASH! High priced restaurants are overpriced.  Also, I've never been to a restaurant that charges for, or you have to order bread.


I take it you haven't dined much outside The States.
 
ReapTheChaos
2023-01-28 4:55:47 PM  
If you're worried about the value of the food then you're in the wrong place. The people who eat at those places have more money than they know what to do with. They aren't there for the food, they're there for the atmosphere, experience, privacy and anonymity that a place like that offers.
 
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu
2023-01-28 4:58:35 PM  

Tarl3k: Spoiler alert:  If you're eating at high-end restaurants, you're paying too much for the food, and you're just paying for the experience.  If you're okay with that, knock yourself out.  Otherwise, find a good hole in the wall place if you want good food...


Disagree.  Of course there's a good share of pretentious gimmicky stuff in fine dining, but there are plenty of legit places with excellent food.  And that food takes a ton of work and time to prepare.

Conversely there are just as many hole in the wall places with food that's mediocre or worse.
 
Winterlight [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 5:10:55 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Tarl3k: Spoiler alert:  If you're eating at high-end restaurants, you're paying too much for the food, and you're just paying for the experience.  If you're okay with that, knock yourself out.  Otherwise, find a good hole in the wall place if you want good food...

Brazilian steak house... you can make your money worth the experience


I attend a local conference every year where the group (30+ strong) all go to the local Brazilian steakhouse. We call it "getting the meat sweats". And it's worth every penny.
 
Jake Havechek [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 5:19:22 PM  
Screw that bougie crap.  Get me a beer and a burger.
 
zerkalo
2023-01-28 5:27:42 PM  

Unobtanium: "Expensive" Such as McDonalds?


No. We're talking food served on actual plates. Like Old Country Buffet
 
Calehedron
2023-01-28 5:36:26 PM  

Winterlight: Axeofjudgement: Tarl3k: Spoiler alert:  If you're eating at high-end restaurants, you're paying too much for the food, and you're just paying for the experience.  If you're okay with that, knock yourself out.  Otherwise, find a good hole in the wall place if you want good food...

Brazilian steak house... you can make your money worth the experience

I attend a local conference every year where the group (30+ strong) all go to the local Brazilian steakhouse. We call it "getting the meat sweats". And it's worth every penny.


The first one I ever went to was in Scottsdale in 2006. My wife and I were out for Bike Week right after we moved to AZ and it was close to the bar (walking) we were hanging at. No menu, no prices. Great food that ended up a bit over $100 for the lunch. Found another place in Chandler later that was much more reasonable. Lunch was $15 for meats, rice, and black beans or $25 for open grazing on everything.

I have no issues with veggies but the Brazilian style of dining was made for my carnivorous side.
 
abhorrent1
2023-01-28 5:54:39 PM  

Gough: abhorrent1: NEWS FLASH! High priced restaurants are overpriced.  Also, I've never been to a restaurant that charges for, or you have to order bread.

I take it you haven't dined much outside The States.


Well, in Cancun once, but we never left the resort so....
 
Valter
2023-01-28 5:58:05 PM  

bifster: Also happens with contractors - 'did a roofing job last week that was similar in size & it cost $XXX.... that's too much!....'


I don't trust contractors at all. I had a really small job that a guy wanted a thousand bucks for and I just flat out said absolutely not. Somehow I got in touch with an honest dude who did it for just a hair under a hundred (and even that was probably a bit much for the job but whatever). The first dude had the gall to show up unannounced and offer to do it for 500.

Job's done, bro.

/second dude did a really good job at it
 
Axeofjudgement
2023-01-28 6:03:03 PM  

Valter: bifster: Also happens with contractors - 'did a roofing job last week that was similar in size & it cost $XXX.... that's too much!....'

I don't trust contractors at all. I had a really small job that a guy wanted a thousand bucks for and I just flat out said absolutely not. Somehow I got in touch with an honest dude who did it for just a hair under a hundred (and even that was probably a bit much for the job but whatever). The first dude had the gall to show up unannounced and offer to do it for 500.

Job's done, bro.

/second dude did a really good job at it


Hey as a contractor.

If I do shiat on the side I'm asking for my ot rate and cost of materials.

If you hire a shiatty contractor and he farks it up I'm just walking away immediately cause I don't want the headache of unfarking someone's fark up of a fark up.

Happens a lot.
 
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