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WickerNipple [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 7:21:07 AM  
If you had an uninsured construction site where minors were able to do that level of damage you're really, really, really lucky one of them didn't hurt themselves in the process.
 
Man On A Mission [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 7:31:38 AM  
The DirtBag Brewing Company owner told "Fox & Friends First" Friday...

So, it never happened? F&F is basically the Daily Fall of television.
 
Redh8t [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 9:27:57 AM  
This kinda stinks.
Where's the expected Gofundme or the hard right GiveSendGo campaign?
 
Sasquach
2023-01-28 10:58:03 AM  
I really enjoy the "I'll probably never get..." stuff.....complaint about things that haven't happened yet.

Uninsured? You're a fool
Criminal proceedings? Hasn't happened yet.
Civil proceedings? Hasn't even tried yet

Holding a public pity party first? That's the ticket....maybe I'll get a bunch of free handouts and not have to do anything else...
 
OccamsWhiskers
2023-01-28 10:58:31 AM  
We were uninsured due to prior thefts and vandalism... at this point it's a total loss for me.

Any small-business startup faces long odds, but an owner with this level of risk management was probably going to find catastrophic failure with or without persistent vandalism.
 
Howling Fantods
2023-01-28 11:02:22 AM  
"the teens' parents have not come forward to take responsibility or offer help."

So sue them and stop whining about it.
 
keldaria
2023-01-28 11:04:40 AM  

Redh8t: This kinda stinks.
Where's the expected Gofundme or the hard right GiveSendGo campaign?


I'm skeptical too. It feels like not only is the damages over estimated but also that his insurance will probably pickup the cost while he also starts a gofundme campaign to cash in for enough to finish and get the place open. The entire story reads of opportunism and it entirely wouldn't surprise me if the kids smashed a few windows on the first day and once he found out his deductible was so high he might as well pay for the windows out of pocket which he couldn't afford after being soo outstretched on his budget already, he decided to commit insurance fraud and accuses the kids of coming back the next 3 days to destroy more and more. Like what farking kids opens up hydraulic lines to pour sand in.

If it comes out in the future he did the damage himself and scape goated the kids it wouldn't surprise me one bit because we've seen these story repeat over and over again, especially now that gofundme style campaigns have become a quick way to grift.
 
OhioUGrad
2023-01-28 11:10:03 AM  
Well, poor planning uninsured Reich-wing businessman, perhaps your bootstraps are edible.
 
deadsanta
2023-01-28 11:11:58 AM  

Howling Fantods: "the teens' parents have not come forward to take responsibility or offer help."

So sue them and stop whining about it.


The kind of people who have a gang of kids who do this sort of shiat?  Yeah, they don't have any money either.  And if this guy is broke, ain't no farking lawyer taking this case either.
 
Redh8t [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 11:24:36 AM  
Have a look at the photos.

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2023/01/100k-of-vandalism-done-to-southwest-michigan-brewery-under-construction.html

That wasn't gonna be anything but a barn.
Mr. Long may have dreamed of creating a brewery. But even without the vandalism, that shack was far from a construction site. The exterior wood sheeting is weathered silver. Judging by the grass, there hasn't been much movement around the site aside from the supposed kids.

And the damage to his 15 person van? That f*cker hasn't moved in two years, at least!
 
JustHereForThePics
2023-01-28 11:33:35 AM  

Sasquach: I really enjoy the "I'll probably never get..." stuff.....complaint about things that haven't happened yet.

Uninsured? You're a fool
Criminal proceedings? Hasn't happened yet.
Civil proceedings? Hasn't even tried yet

Holding a public pity party first? That's the ticket....maybe I'll get a bunch of free handouts and not have to do anything else...


Buddy of mine's teenaged (at the time) son was with friends who decided it would be cool to go into a construction site and do a bunch of damage. Breaking windows, putting bags of cement down toilets, etc. Son and friends were caught, they were hauled into court and ordered to pay $25k in restitution. My buddy had to take out a second to cover it, took him years to pay it off.

Confirming your point, there is a path to resolution.

Now, he's a responsible parent and had assets that could be leveraged.

What happens when that is not the case? I have no experience in the matter. I imagine you can't get blood from a turnip, but one should at least try.
 
SumoJeb [OhFark]
2023-01-28 11:37:17 AM  
I find it difficult to muster sympathy for the underinsured businessman.
I would have thought an alcohol vendor would be a bit more anal about risk management
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2023-01-28 11:39:32 AM  
It has taken him 10 years from finding the property to the building's current state? Find a construction company, because you're never going to get that sucker finished.
 
Bonzo_1116
2023-01-28 11:39:42 AM  

Howling Fantods: "the teens' parents have not come forward to take responsibility or offer help."

So sue them and stop whining about it.


This sort of thing is where the restorative justice movement has the right idea.  These little bastards are too young to get put in the slammer for life, but they are certainly old enough to attempt to fix at least part of what they did.  Me and my cousins used to do stupid shiat at construction sites when we were young, but it was pretty much limited to skateboarding on concrete housing slabs and stealing the flags off the poles around the new housing developments.   Not breaking out windows.   These kids are little assholes, and need correction before becoming fully fledged adult monsters.

And the parents need a beat down out in the woods.
 
SumoJeb [OhFark]
2023-01-28 11:46:38 AM  

Bonzo_1116: Howling Fantods: "the teens' parents have not come forward to take responsibility or offer help."

So sue them and stop whining about it.

This sort of thing is where the restorative justice movement has the right idea.  These little bastards are too young to get put in the slammer for life, but they are certainly old enough to attempt to fix at least part of what they did.  Me and my cousins used to do stupid shiat at construction sites when we were young, but it was pretty much limited to skateboarding on concrete housing slabs and stealing the flags off the poles around the new housing developments.   Not breaking out windows.   These kids are little assholes, and need correction before becoming fully fledged adult monsters.

And the parents need a beat down out in the woods.


We used to go into new home constructions before the finishing, flooring and drywall crews got in there and dump fake blood around and make fake satanic altars in the master bedrooms. I haven't heard any stories of people freaking out and moving after uncovering a pentagram spraypainted on the floor of their bedroom during renovations, yet.
 
Bonzo_1116
2023-01-28 11:50:00 AM  

SumoJeb: Bonzo_1116: Howling Fantods: "the teens' parents have not come forward to take responsibility or offer help."

So sue them and stop whining about it.

This sort of thing is where the restorative justice movement has the right idea.  These little bastards are too young to get put in the slammer for life, but they are certainly old enough to attempt to fix at least part of what they did.  Me and my cousins used to do stupid shiat at construction sites when we were young, but it was pretty much limited to skateboarding on concrete housing slabs and stealing the flags off the poles around the new housing developments.   Not breaking out windows.   These kids are little assholes, and need correction before becoming fully fledged adult monsters.

And the parents need a beat down out in the woods.

We used to go into new home constructions before the finishing, flooring and drywall crews got in there and dump fake blood around and make fake satanic altars in the master bedrooms. I haven't heard any stories of people freaking out and moving after uncovering a pentagram spraypainted on the floor of their bedroom during renovations, yet.


If I found a pentagram under my carpet I'd be thrilled!  It shows that at least one person cared enough to keep the ghosts from getting out of the ground.
 
BunkyBrewman [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 11:59:40 AM  

Redh8t: Have a look at the photos.

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2023/01/100k-of-vandalism-done-to-southwest-michigan-brewery-under-construction.html

That wasn't gonna be anything but a barn.
Mr. Long may have dreamed of creating a brewery. But even without the vandalism, that shack was far from a construction site. The exterior wood sheeting is weathered silver. Judging by the grass, there hasn't been much movement around the site aside from the supposed kids.

And the damage to his 15 person van? That f*cker hasn't moved in two years, at least!


After viewing those pictures you're right on the money.  There doesn't look to have been any work on that building for an extended amount of time.

From their Facebook page, it looks like they've been working on this construction since 2016.

https://www.facebook.com/DirtBagBrewingCompany/

Here are some pictures from October 2018

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ALSO it looks like their last post on Facebook was this picture from June 2019 and nothing until the vandalism claim from a few days ago.

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BunkyBrewman [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 12:04:23 PM  
Speaking as a wholly unqualified and unverified Total Fark Detective®, this should be investigated for insurance fraud. There doesn't seem to be any construction activity on the site from June 2019 until the vandalism claim in January 2023. (that's over 3 1/2 years if you're counting)
 
BunkyBrewman [TotalFark]
2023-01-28 12:05:28 PM  
Oops, I guess since there's no insurance, there's no insurance fraud.

my bad 😬
 
SumoJeb [OhFark]
2023-01-28 12:29:29 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Oops, I guess since there's no insurance, there's no insurance fraud.

my bad 😬


There are Gofundme scams, which is what I'm guessing this is going to materialize into.
 
hlehmann
2023-01-28 1:14:33 PM  

SumoJeb: Bonzo_1116: Howling Fantods: "the teens' parents have not come forward to take responsibility or offer help."

So sue them and stop whining about it.

This sort of thing is where the restorative justice movement has the right idea.  These little bastards are too young to get put in the slammer for life, but they are certainly old enough to attempt to fix at least part of what they did.  Me and my cousins used to do stupid shiat at construction sites when we were young, but it was pretty much limited to skateboarding on concrete housing slabs and stealing the flags off the poles around the new housing developments.   Not breaking out windows.   These kids are little assholes, and need correction before becoming fully fledged adult monsters.

And the parents need a beat down out in the woods.

We used to go into new home constructions before the finishing, flooring and drywall crews got in there and dump fake blood around and make fake satanic altars in the master bedrooms. I haven't heard any stories of people freaking out and moving after uncovering a pentagram spraypainted on the floor of their bedroom during renovations, yet.


The worst we ever did when I was a kid?  A house under construction, framed with a roof and heating ducts were all in place but no walls were covered yet.  We found a dead rabbit or squirrel or something and pushed it as far as we could into one of those ducts until it was out of sight.  Never heard if it later stunk up the place or if it's still in the same spot all mummified.
 
zez
2023-01-28 1:21:28 PM  
"The DirtBag Brewing Company owner"

Maybe if he wasn't such a dirtbag people would leave him alone
 
grimlock1972
2023-01-28 1:31:36 PM  

WickerNipple: If you had an uninsured construction site where minors were able to do that level of damage you're really, really, really lucky one of them didn't hurt themselves in the process.


This.

Also:

1. why the hell leave a 15 passenger van on a seemingly unattended construction site?

2. why the hell did you have not have at least one security guard on duty over night if you had such valuable stuff on site.

3. if you can id the kids you can go after the parents for the kid's actions.
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 2:49:58 PM  
That's extremely dedicated vandalism. Vandals usually do a thing or two and leave. This stuff looks like a total obliteration effort designed to send a message.
 
Get Rich or Try Dyin'
2023-01-28 3:06:29 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Speaking as a wholly unqualified and unverified Total Fark Detective®, this should be investigated for insurance fraud. There doesn't seem to be any construction activity on the site from June 2019 until the vandalism claim in January 2023. (that's over 3 1/2 years if you're counting)


Hard to fraud something you don't have.
 
germ78
2023-01-28 3:33:35 PM  

grimlock1972: 2. why the hell did you have not have at least one security guard on duty over night if you had such valuable stuff on site.


Or at the barest minimum, some sort of video surveillance system of the site.
 
germ78
2023-01-28 3:34:52 PM  

edmo: That's extremely dedicated vandalism. Vandals usually do a thing or two and leave. This stuff looks like a total obliteration effort designed to send a message.


The Ka-zoo cartel from Bell's Brewery is not to be trifled with.
 
baronbloodbath [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 3:52:07 PM  

WickerNipple: If you had an uninsured construction site where minors were able to do that level of damage you're really, really, really lucky one of them didn't hurt themselves in the process.


"No security system, no security guard. What's the worst that could happen?"
 
huma474
2023-01-28 4:29:36 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Redh8t: Have a look at the photos.

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2023/01/100k-of-vandalism-done-to-southwest-michigan-brewery-under-construction.html

That wasn't gonna be anything but a barn.
Mr. Long may have dreamed of creating a brewery. But even without the vandalism, that shack was far from a construction site. The exterior wood sheeting is weathered silver. Judging by the grass, there hasn't been much movement around the site aside from the supposed kids.

And the damage to his 15 person van? That f*cker hasn't moved in two years, at least!

After viewing those pictures you're right on the money.  There doesn't look to have been any work on that building for an extended amount of time.

From their Facebook page, it looks like they've been working on this construction since 2016.

https://www.facebook.com/DirtBagBrewingCompany/

Here are some pictures from October 2018

[Fark user image 850x478]

[Fark user image 850x478]

ALSO it looks like their last post on Facebook was this picture from June 2019 and nothing until the vandalism claim from a few days ago.

[Fark user image 850x478]


Insurance fraud detectors going off, but since he already tried that before and got his policy canceled he's just trying to get one last pity payout before walking away
 
Redh8t [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 4:32:31 PM  
Welp, the grift worked.
Their Gofundme is $86,000+ so far.

Looking forward to the follow-up..
 
chitownmike
2023-01-28 4:39:07 PM  

WickerNipple: If you had an uninsured construction site where minors were able to do that level of damage you're really, really, really lucky one of them didn't hurt themselves in the process.


Go one step further. If you have an uninsured site your building permit is not valid and any work done is illegal
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 8:30:13 PM  
Wow, looking at TFA the dude from Wheatus is looking rough these days...

Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag (Official Video)
Youtube FC3y9llDXuM
 
cousin-merle
2023-01-28 8:59:20 PM  

Redh8t: Have a look at the photos.

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2023/01/100k-of-vandalism-done-to-southwest-michigan-brewery-under-construction.html

That wasn't gonna be anything but a barn.
Mr. Long may have dreamed of creating a brewery. But even without the vandalism, that shack was far from a construction site. The exterior wood sheeting is weathered silver. Judging by the grass, there hasn't been much movement around the site aside from the supposed kids.

And the damage to his 15 person van? That f*cker hasn't moved in two years, at least!


The glass is on the outside! False flag just like Pelosi's husband!
 
cousin-merle
2023-01-28 9:00:17 PM  

JustHereForThePics: Sasquach: I really enjoy the "I'll probably never get..." stuff.....complaint about things that haven't happened yet.

Uninsured? You're a fool
Criminal proceedings? Hasn't happened yet.
Civil proceedings? Hasn't even tried yet

Holding a public pity party first? That's the ticket....maybe I'll get a bunch of free handouts and not have to do anything else...

Buddy of mine's teenaged (at the time) son was with friends who decided it would be cool to go into a construction site and do a bunch of damage. Breaking windows, putting bags of cement down toilets, etc. Son and friends were caught, they were hauled into court and ordered to pay $25k in restitution. My buddy had to take out a second to cover it, took him years to pay it off.

Confirming your point, there is a path to resolution.

Now, he's a responsible parent and had assets that could be leveraged.

What happens when that is not the case? I have no experience in the matter. I imagine you can't get blood from a turnip, but one should at least try.


When we used to sneak into places, we would just pee everywhere so that we would know that everyone in that building was in our toilet all the time.
 
kdawg7736 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-28 9:46:04 PM  
He lost his dream. Why all the hate just because this is from Fox News. We like beer on FARK, you know.
 
Spice Must Flow
2023-01-28 10:08:42 PM  
I've seen four breweries and a distillery, within a couple miles of where I live, close down since the pandemic started. Two of the breweries were getting ready to open, one opened late summer 2020 and stayed open nearly two years, and the other always looked almost ready to open the whole time, but now is getting emptied out. It's sad putting so much money into a project for so long, just to see it fail.

But those folks just got screwed by the pandemic, and this guy sounds like he ran out of gas long before that. It's sad, but that happens in the brewery world.
 
Bukharin
2023-01-28 11:17:24 PM  

WickerNipple: If you had an uninsured construction site where minors were able to do that level of damage you're really, really, really lucky one of them didn't hurt themselves in the process.


This is a horrific act, and completely undeserved by the victim. That said, if you are investing your entire life into something- insure it. No joke.
 
deadsanta
2023-01-29 10:12:37 AM  

BunkyBrewman: Speaking as a wholly unqualified and unverified Total Fark Detective®, this should be investigated for insurance fraud. There doesn't seem to be any construction activity on the site from June 2019 until the vandalism claim in January 2023. (that's over 3 1/2 years if you're counting)


Gee I wonder what farking happened in late 2019 that lasted for over 3 years and that might have had an adverse effect on someone trying to get financing or complete work at a job site?  HMM WHAT COULD THAT BE?!?

So yeah, I find these wacky accusations to be even more Fark than normal, because it seems like many farkers have a goddamn lacuna where their recollections of covid ought to be.  This is the most normal story of the last 3 years I've heard, and I have had my business close down for good and all as a result, and know about a dozen other people who've had similar events befall them, no insurance fraud required.
 
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