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2023-01-28 1:23:29 AM  
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2023-01-28 4:40:52 AM  
You yourself might not support the Christofascist overthrowing of a democratic government.

But if you support a candidate who does, it is just as bad.
 
2023-01-28 5:16:44 AM  
Trump is a criminal con man.

That single fact outweighs any of the 'positions' he pretends to hold. If you supported him because you agree with what he said about immigration, you were still supporting a criminal.
 
2023-01-28 6:27:55 AM  
We seriously don't need studies for all this obvious sh*t. People treat politics like sports and cheer for their team even if they "accidentally" kill one of the cheerleaders in a meth-fueled rage.

More so GOP to the percentage of the party who do. It's most of them because right wing media and the crazy ones like Levin have demonized the left as those who will kill your children and eat your dog if they dare lower the price of your insulin or help you get a raise at work.

Willingly destroy themselves to feel included in a group.

You know, Raiders Fans.
 
2023-01-28 6:36:38 AM  
There are two primary political parties in this country.

One of them:
* Voted a criminal into office who got impeached twice, because he just can't stop breaking the law
* Gave us corrupt corrupt congresspeople who voted not to convict him, because party before country
* Showed open support for the terrorist insurrection he led that attempted to steal an election via mob rule
* Voted insurrection co-conspirators and fanatics into office, knowing of their guilt

I'll stop believing that republicans aren't abhorrent, anti-American fascists, when they stop voting like abhorrent, Anti-American fascists.
 
2023-01-28 7:20:47 AM  
"One of the most fascinating papers I've read for a long time"

Just how long has it taken for you to read it?
 
2023-01-28 7:52:00 AM  
Meanwhile, in Fact-Based World:

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2023-01-28 7:54:53 AM  
If you keep electing stupid and crazy, then yeah, folks are going to associate y'all with stupid and crazy.

Don't get mad that other people are paying the f*ck attention to your Reps and Senators. Or what their cheerleaders are cheering about. Right now, we have a situation where a major news outlet actively champions the absolutely most cruel and vicious interpretations of policy, and congratulates your representatives and their appointees for supporting cruelty in the extreme. Don't like that sh*t? Then turn off the television, step out the house, and look around you.

Conversely, if you listen to these folks, who complain that their political rivals eat babies and have pizza parlors as underage rape stations, then, again, the onus is still kind of on y'all for folks pointing that idiocy. Stop making stupid people famous. Stop electing stupid people.
 
2023-01-28 7:56:10 AM  
Is now as always

The corrupt manipulate

The just tolerate
 
2023-01-28 7:57:32 AM  

bloobeary: There are two primary political parties in this country.


There begins the problem.

And the closest thing to a viable third party - and I use that term loosely - is a party whose entire platform is about implementing anarcho-capitalism.
 
2023-01-28 7:59:34 AM  
All that is nice, but crazy people make good copy and that's the only thing holding up the news media these days, so the media no incentive to push normalcy or sanity.
 
2023-01-28 7:59:42 AM  
It has always been in the spirit of fair play in Ameristan, and strife is just borne out of little misunderstandings.

Yes, I fully agree that both sides are equally bad and are equally harmful in the ways they attempt to govern.

It's fully obvious that men like DeSantis, Trump and Gaetz have our best interests at heart and people like Greene and Boebert are just outliers.

And no, the current crop of leaders are certainly not a cabal of corrupt, fascist, traitorous attention seekers,
who would love to burn it all down at the behest of their plutocratic masters who would murder us all just to
save a few bucks in taxes.

I am just a misguided "yellow dog" Democrat, that's all.
 
2023-01-28 8:01:07 AM  
Water wet, Fox News somehow has a purple-haired person of indeterminate gender ready to demonize anything to the left of nationalist christian fascism.
 
2023-01-28 8:03:04 AM  
It's called "in-group/out-group" and people have been writing about for nearly two decades, if not longer.
 
2023-01-28 8:06:27 AM  

resident dystopian: It's fully obvious that men like DeSantis, Trump and Gaetz have our best interests at heart and people like Greene and Boebert are just outliers.


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2023-01-28 8:06:29 AM  

NewportBarGuy: We seriously don't need studies for all this obvious sh*t. People treat politics like sports and cheer for their team


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2023-01-28 8:06:51 AM  
Not interested in anyone's "both sides" bullshiat today
 
2023-01-28 8:08:02 AM  
Yeah this is how people are radicalized, how how they justify their extremism to themselves.

Its very rare for someone to believe that they are the bad guy.  Instead they become convinced that anything they do is not only justifiable but righteous due to what the other side is doing.

But what they think the other side is doing is propaganda that they were fed during the radicalization process.  And the best propaganda is to use the opposing extremists words against them.

And yes we have left wing radicals also.  They are the ones calling for the country to be split up and the unvaccinated to die.  These comments become effective right wing propaganda.
 
2023-01-28 8:08:17 AM  
When the crowd you run with and identify with start taking people's rights away, the people losing their rights might not care for people on team "fark you, I'm taking your rights away." farking shocking, I know.
 
2023-01-28 8:08:17 AM  
I'm no nazi, I just have dinner with nazis from time to time?
 
2023-01-28 8:09:13 AM  
Whatever positions they claim to hold, we know them by their actions.
 
2023-01-28 8:11:44 AM  
my BIL Greg is a dick.  always has been.  and i can't imagine we share mutual ideals around politics.
my sister used to be a bleeding heart who would bring unfortunate people home during the holidays.
she chose to be brainwashed by his endless hatred for 'the others'.
now, they see the world through a drinking straw.  forever afraid of realities.
i remain open to being wrong about my assumptions and some folks are lost to me.
 
2023-01-28 8:12:49 AM  
Funny, I'd think if they really didn't feel that way they wouldn't stay silent and keep voting for the worst farking people ever.
 
2023-01-28 8:17:12 AM  
Subby's logic isn't sound
 
2023-01-28 8:17:14 AM  

bostonguy: You yourself might not support the Christofascist overthrowing of a democratic government.

But if you support a candidate who does, it is just as bad.


Right. There's also who the "extreme fringe" is. For the GOP the "fringe" is the farking former POTUS, front runner for their next POTUS candidate, current House Speaker, well over half the elected House who supported overthrowing the US government not long ago, almost every talking head across conservative media, and something around half the most republicans who ran for office in the midterms a few months ago.

So maybe not all that fringe.
 
2023-01-28 8:26:40 AM  
"I, myself, am not a rapist. But I fully support putting rapists in charge of telling these women what they can do with their bodies."

Uhm... they're the same thing.
 
2023-01-28 8:26:45 AM  
Parisians hate everybody.  Oh, partisans.  Never mind.
 
2023-01-28 8:28:30 AM  

Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems: bloobeary: There are two primary political parties in this country.

There begins the problem.

And the closest thing to a viable third party - and I use that term loosely - is a party whose entire platform is about implementing anarcho-capitalism.


What's interesting is that looking at American history prior to 1860, there were only two truly independent third parties (the Anti-Masonic Party and the Liberty Party).  The rest were just splitters from the original Federalists or the original Anti-Federalists.

But the parties overall have followed two tracks.  It's interesting how the Federalists evolved into the Whigs, who evolved into the Republicans after Whig splitters broke off into splitter parties (American Party, Free Soil Party, Republican Party, Unionist Party) and combined back together into the Republicans.  The Federalists were conservative in outlook, and favored a political elite controlling the government and a strong centralized national government.

Meanwhile, the Anti-Federalists became the Democratic-Republicans became the Democrats.  With some splitters who either switched to the Whigs (National Republicans) or returned to the fold after a while (Nullifier Party).  The Anti-Federalists were non-conservative in outlook, and favored populism and a decentralized republic of powerful states.

And all it took to shake that up was slavery and regionalism.
 
2023-01-28 8:28:53 AM  
SomeAmerican:

name def checks out.
 
2023-01-28 8:29:45 AM  
Republicans not only have extremist aholes in their coalition but also give them leadership positions within the party structure, appoint them to cabinet posts, and elect them to key offices.

But BSAB, so vote republican.
 
2023-01-28 8:31:14 AM  
What a clever BSAB paper.
 
2023-01-28 8:31:36 AM  
The difference is that to parade out the insanity of the fringe left, you have to go digging on Twitter or Tumblr to find some rando with 20 followers whining about how white people liking something ruins it.

To parade out the insanity of the fringe right, you just have to turn on CSPAN or any national news channel.

The fringe doesn't represent the majority of either party, but only one side elected their fringe to be their mascots.
 
2023-01-28 8:36:39 AM  

Fast Moon: The difference is that to parade out the insanity of the fringe left, you have to go digging on Twitter or Tumblr to find some rando with 20 followers whining about how white people liking something ruins it.

To parade out the insanity of the fringe right, you just have to turn on CSPAN or any national news channel.

The fringe doesn't represent the majority of either party, but only one side elected their fringe to be their mascots.


This.
 
2023-01-28 8:37:12 AM  
In politics it doesn't matter what you say you're for or against, it matters what you DO. If you say you're for expanding healthcare but vote against it every chance you get, you are NOT for explaining healthcare (I'm looking at you Lieberman, you cock). If you say you're for protecting human life, but then abandon that life to suffer and die, you aren't protecting jack shiat.
 
2023-01-28 8:37:38 AM  

hubiestubert: Right now, we have a situation where a major news outlet actively champions the absolutely most cruel and vicious interpretations of policy, and congratulates your representatives and their appointees for supporting cruelty in the extreme.


I've come to the conclusion this is a two-way street.  Fox rarely reports convictions of January 6 rioters, let alone sentences; ie, the guy who just received 80 months for assaulting Brian Sicknick. When they do report they bury it where you can only find it by searching.

That's not because they're keeping the base ignorant, it's because the base doesn't want to hear.
 
2023-01-28 8:42:46 AM  
You know who ruined partisanship? Republicans, which is why they need to be destroyed.
 
2023-01-28 8:42:55 AM  

bostonguy: You yourself might not support the Christofascist overthrowing of a democratic government.

But if you support a candidate who does, it is just as bad.


Yeah, but the same could be said if you support a president who wants to make gas stoves safer.

So both sides really.

/s
 
2023-01-28 8:45:44 AM  
There is a reason for this, there is a multi-billion dollar industry that depends on us hating each other, and as a society as a whole we take their bait every time.
 
2023-01-28 8:47:27 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: You know who ruined partisanship? Republicans, which is why they need to be destroyed.


This, unironically. When it stopped being about "what should our tax rate be?" and turned into "Hey, let's throw this election and the rule of law out because our guy didn't win" it's no longer an issue of how reasonable people can disagree.
 
2023-01-28 8:48:17 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: You know who ruined partisanship? Republicans, which is why they need to be destroyed.


GOP delenda est
 
2023-01-28 8:49:45 AM  
Table, nazi, polite conversation.

And yes, I want to gay marry your aborted fetus.
 
2023-01-28 8:50:47 AM  
This whole thread could be appended to the study as "Exhibit 1."
 
2023-01-28 8:51:30 AM  

ChimpMitten: Table, nazi, polite conversation.

And yes, I want to gay marry your aborted fetus.


Woops, slipped a libertarian value in there with marrying a fetus.  The horseshoe is real.
 
2023-01-28 8:52:54 AM  

Shaggy_C: This whole thread could be appended to the study as "Exhibit 1."


You'll get over it, internet contrarian.
 
2023-01-28 8:59:09 AM  
 
2023-01-28 8:59:48 AM  

mtrac: hubiestubert: Right now, we have a situation where a major news outlet actively champions the absolutely most cruel and vicious interpretations of policy, and congratulates your representatives and their appointees for supporting cruelty in the extreme.

I've come to the conclusion this is a two-way street.  Fox rarely reports convictions of January 6 rioters, let alone sentences; ie, the guy who just received 80 months for assaulting Brian Sicknick. When they do report they bury it where you can only find it by searching.

That's not because they're keeping the base ignorant, it's because the base doesn't want to hear.


It can absolutely be both.
 
2023-01-28 9:00:12 AM  
Which is a real shame at the end of the day. If Democrats were one tenth as hyperliberal, "woke," and damn-near communist as people like to squawk about, shiat this might be a better place.

And yeah, if you vote for and in lockstep with a wanna-dictator for four years and turn a blind eye to an attempted coup, or support the campaign of the former, you support all of that. Own your farkin' vote. You didn't just shell out for a bumper sticker because you liked the color scheme.
 
2023-01-28 9:00:39 AM  
Yes, that holds for your side too.
 
2023-01-28 9:01:05 AM  

GhostOfSavageHenry: When the crowd you run with and identify with start taking people's rights away, the people losing their rights might not care for people on team "fark you, I'm taking your rights away." farking shocking, I know.


Hey look now, *I'm* not the bad guy. *I* don't want to take your rights away. I just voted for the person who does. That doesn't make me the bad guy!
 
2023-01-28 9:02:01 AM  
Or "Everyone I disagree with is literally a Nazi."

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