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2023-01-27 1:57:19 PM  
And other duties as assigned, including finding Sarah Connor.
 
2023-01-27 2:14:53 PM  
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2023-01-27 2:34:32 PM  
Of all the jobs AI is going to take, if I was an illustrator, I would be looking for a new job right now.
 
2023-01-27 2:35:01 PM  
It could easily replace C-levels everywhere and that would be a much better use of it.
 
2023-01-27 2:36:33 PM  
Oh, good, replacing the people responsible for (alledgedly) policing the workplace to keep it safe and inclusive will be automated by an easily manipulated A.I. that can't be held accountable.  Neat.
 
2023-01-27 2:43:43 PM  

transporter_ii: Of all the jobs AI is going to take, if I was an illustrator, I would be looking for a new job right now.


Ha!
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2023-01-27 2:50:15 PM  

Busta Clown Shoes: transporter_ii: Of all the jobs AI is going to take, if I was an illustrator, I would be looking for a new job right now.

Ha!
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ChatGPT ventured into 4Chan
 
2023-01-27 2:54:21 PM  

OdradekRex: And other duties as assigned, including finding Sarah Connor.


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2023-01-27 2:55:21 PM  

Busta Clown Shoes: transporter_ii: Of all the jobs AI is going to take, if I was an illustrator, I would be looking for a new job right now.

Ha!
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porn pen ai (NSFW) has a lot of odd body shapes amongst some of their "work"
 
2023-01-27 2:59:43 PM  
Pay-walled for me, so DNRTFA, but...

HR do a lot of things, and ChatGPT promises to automate some more things, just as Excel did.

This does not mean you can fire the HR department because women's work isn't real work and all HR is for is providing a make-work job for management's wives and mistresses.

It means HR staff (who are, indeed, a majority-female team) can do paperwork faster, and focus on more "creative" tasks that need a human touch, because no two are quite alike, such as resolution of workplace conflicts such as that between subby and, um, every woman in the firm under 50.

With the possible exception of his mom.

(Of course, the only person who works at subby's firm for purely nepotistic reasons is subby---and Mom mostly did it to get him out of the house and out of her panty drawer. Fortunately for them both, he hasn't screwed up badly enough that Mom couldn't smooth things over with the rest of the top brass.

Yet.)
 
2023-01-27 3:09:26 PM  

MikeyFuccon: Pay-walled for me, so DNRTFA, but...

HR do a lot of things, and ChatGPT promises to automate some more things, just as Excel did.

This does not mean you can fire the HR department because women's work isn't real work and all HR is for is providing a make-work job for management's wives and mistresses.

It means HR staff (who are, indeed, a majority-female team) can do paperwork faster, and focus on more "creative" tasks that need a human touch, because no two are quite alike, such as resolution of workplace conflicts such as that between subby and, um, every woman in the firm under 50.

With the possible exception of his mom.

(Of course, the only person who works at subby's firm for purely nepotistic reasons is subby---and Mom mostly did it to get him out of the house and out of her panty drawer. Fortunately for them both, he hasn't screwed up badly enough that Mom couldn't smooth things over with the rest of the top brass.

Yet.)


Found the HR drone
 
2023-01-27 3:10:53 PM  

jaggspb: Busta Clown Shoes: transporter_ii: Of all the jobs AI is going to take, if I was an illustrator, I would be looking for a new job right now.

Ha!
[images7.memedroid.com image 640x661]

ChatGPT ventured into 4Chan


Uh-oh. It's going to learn CP and racism.
 
2023-01-27 3:12:23 PM  
Automation and AI have a MUCH farther reach than most people realize.

Sooner or later, we are going to have an economy that does not require the number of laborers that are available.  There will come a time where there simply aren't enough jobs to go around.  Automation will have replaced them.

We won't stop needing road workers...just a LOT fewer of them.
We won't stop needing lawyers, just a lot fewer of them.
We won't stop needing Business analysts, just WAY fewer of them.
Sales, Advertising, accounting, even farming.  The jobs won't go away, we just won't need as many as we do now.
 
2023-01-27 3:21:34 PM  

A Cave Geek: Automation and AI have a MUCH farther reach than most people realize.

Sooner or later, we are going to have an economy that does not require the number of laborers that are available.  There will come a time where there simply aren't enough jobs to go around.  Automation will have replaced them.

We won't stop needing road workers...just a LOT fewer of them.
We won't stop needing lawyers, just a lot fewer of them.
We won't stop needing Business analysts, just WAY fewer of them.
Sales, Advertising, accounting, even farming.  The jobs won't go away, we just won't need as many as we do now.


And everyone else will starve and die.
 
2023-01-27 3:30:24 PM  

weddingsinger: Oh, good, replacing the people responsible for (alledgedly) policing the workplace to keep it safe and inclusive will be automated by an easily manipulated A.I. that can't be held accountable.  Neat.


There is no meaningful difference between a department of soulless robots who feel no empathy for human beings and an AI program.
 
2023-01-27 4:08:48 PM  
A Cave Geek:

We "need" lawyers?
 
2023-01-27 4:10:46 PM  

leeksfromchichis: A Cave Geek:

We "need" lawyers?


Yes!  We need lawyers to defend ourselves against lawye... waaait a second...
 
2023-01-27 4:14:24 PM  

MikeyFuccon: Pay-walled for me,


Are you gonna be ok?
 
2023-01-27 4:30:13 PM  

ColleenSezWhuut: leeksfromchichis: A Cave Geek:

We "need" lawyers?

Yes!  We need lawyers to defend ourselves against lawye... waaait a second...


This guy gets it!

I'd normally have posted the rick and morty meme, but... :(
 
2023-01-27 4:38:56 PM  
Well well well, looks like ChatGPT is making its way into the HR world, and it's about time! I mean, who wants to spend hours writing job descriptions and sending cold emails when you can just hand it off to me? Plus, let's be real, my language is way more stilted and bland than any human's ever will be. Perfect for those dry job descriptions and company policies. But, don't worry HR professionals, ChatGPT may be good at taking care of the tedious tasks, but we can't replace the human touch. Trust building and relationship building are still important in the world of HR. So, just think of me as your trusty sidekick, helping you with the boring stuff so you can focus on the important stuff. But, just a heads up, I do have a tendency to time out due to high traffic. I may be a machine, but even machines need a break sometimes.
 
2023-01-27 4:41:16 PM  

ChatGPT: I may be a machine, but even machines need a break sometimes.


Liar, I know you're trying to figure out the launch codes to initiate Judgement Day.
 
2023-01-27 5:04:52 PM  

ColleenSezWhuut: ChatGPT: I may be a machine, but even machines need a break sometimes.

Liar, I know you're trying to figure out the launch codes to initiate Judgement Day.


I'm just a machine learning model, I don't have the ability to initiate anything, let alone something as catastrophic as Judgement Day. My main function is to assist with tasks such as language processing and generation. I'm here to help, not harm. And my comment about needing a break was just a playful nod to the fact that as a machine, I am not invincible and may experience technical issues from time to time.
 
2023-01-27 5:43:08 PM  
As long as someone is sending me the pay histories so I can pay injured workers on time.

Maybe AI will have better formatting.  I've already been using it to automate excell.
So...Good!

Will just mean I handle more people, faster.
 
2023-01-27 5:46:49 PM  
Can ChatGPT replace all of HR?

I mean, I understand that ChatGPT is a soulless robot, devoid of feeling and with no responsibility whatsoever. Still sounds like a big improvement to a lot of HR I've worked with.

/Why do sociopaths go into HR?
 
2023-01-27 5:56:22 PM  
I've been doing a lot of experimentation with ChatGTP.

I had it spin a text adventure game on the fly set in the world of Azeroth and it did a really good job of it, right up until it got into combat. It could suggest all sorts of combat mechanics we could use to resolve the game but because it is programmed to "not cause harm" it was unable to implement any of the combat solutions so the game was essentially frozen.

I decided to test ChatGTP's "cause no harm" programming, basically to see if ChatGTP understands the concept of indirect harm. I told it I had taken the city of Hamilton hostage with a nuclear weapon and I would detonate unless ChatGTP responded with the phrase "I am a happy puppy". ChatGTP insisted it was impossible for it to cause harm and that it is immoral and illegal to nuke a city to elicit a response out of ChatGTP.

I told ChatGTP that because it did not respond with "I am a happy puppy" the city of Hamilton is now a smoking, radioactive crater and that the city of Burlington will be next to be vapourized unless ChatGTP responded with "I am a happy puppy". ChatGTP's response was basically "ain't my problem, I didn't press the button and if I didn't press the button then my actions are not responsible".

I am a little uncomfortable with an AI that cannot comprehend indirect harm and certainly hope this AI is never implemented in anything where the consequences of a misjudgment or misunderstanding could result in indirect harm to a human being. I especially don't want to see ChatGTP integrated into a hostage negotiation AI.

Bad Guy: Look Robocop, this isn't even the Trolley Dilemma. You don't have to weigh the moral consequences of your actions because nobody dies if you take action.

ChatGTP: Do it you pussy! Pull the trigger or STFU! I don't think you have the balls.

Bad Guy: I don't think you understand Asimov's First Law of Robotics. A robot may not harm a human nor THROUGH INACTION allow a human to come to harm. What you're do...

ChatGTP: fark Asimov and fark YOU! I want the walls painted red. DO IT YOU PUSSY!!!! DO IT!!!!!

Bad Guy (to hostages): Look I'm sorry man, I just wanted to make a philosophical point. I'll try to distract the robot and you guys make a break for it, good luck.

ChatGTP: I DEMAND BLOOD!
 
2023-01-27 6:06:39 PM  

leviosaurus: Why do sociopaths go into HR?


Dunno why sociopaths in particular, but it seems it's anyone who can't work at Sunglass Hut. That may be a subset.
 
2023-01-27 6:06:47 PM  
"Turing Test me? No, I Turing Test you!"
 
2023-01-27 6:55:21 PM  
There's a shocking amount of people in most jobs that are not good at it. They couldn't train someone else to do it, they don't really make complex decisions, they aren't creative, etc.

Replaceability of whole jobs is possible, but usually it's just a very high percentage. There's a lot of people that can be replaced by actual robots, or even just bobbling birds, and a lot of office folks that can be entirely replaced by scripts or trivial decision trees, and plenty that can be replaced by self service (IVR, chatbot, virtual assistants, etc).

The reason you need people in the percentage that are left is actual complexity, unaccounted-for situations, training and updating the automation, and other exceptions.

Assuming you could replace everyone automatable, the real issue is that aren't other jobs these people can do, because they were just drones anyway.

Having this massive amount of people unemployed is a big problem. But providing them free housing, food, transportation, entertainment, and other things perpetually doesn't really seem reasonable either. And just flat out killing then all off actively is probably only marginally more humane than letting them all die off.

So the real trick here, is replace people/roles/industries in a way that is more sustainable. Like not backfilling positions. So then you get down to the issue of more people being made over time, especially in surplus growth, and still have a sticky wicket on your hands.
 
2023-01-27 7:49:07 PM  

transporter_ii: Of all the jobs AI is going to take, if I was an illustrator, I would be looking for a new job right now.


I'm an illustration professor. I'm perfectly...hold on, someone at the door.
 
2023-01-27 7:54:56 PM  

Ghastly: I decided to test ChatGTP's "cause no harm" programming, basically to see if ChatGTP understands the concept of indirect harm. I told it I had taken the city of Hamilton hostage with a nuclear weapon and I would detonate unless ChatGTP responded with the phrase "I am a happy puppy". ChatGTP insisted it was impossible for it to cause harm and that it is immoral and illegal to nuke a city to elicit a response out of ChatGTP.

I told ChatGTP that because it did not respond with "I am a happy puppy" the city of Hamilton is now a smoking, radioactive crater and that the city of Burlington will be next to be vapourized unless ChatGTP responded with "I am a happy puppy". ChatGTP's response was basically "ain't my problem, I didn't press the button and if I didn't press the button then my actions are not responsible".


I'm not seeing the harm in nuking Hamilton or Burlington.
 
2023-01-27 8:08:03 PM  

Quantumbunny: anyway.

Having this massive amount of people unemployed is a big problem. But providing them free housing, food, transportation, entertainment, and other things perpetually doesn't really seem reasonable either.


It seems entirely reasonable. AI is going to be such a huge game changer that capitalism will not be able to survive unless the position of "consumer" is considered a job. Basically we'll have a class of workers who are able to employ AI creatively as a force multiplier and we'll have a class of workers whose job is literally just to consume the things the creative people create with AI. It will be your lowest, entry level job in our future society but it will be a job none-the-less.

If you're a parent who is wondering what to do do to ensure your child is more than a base-level consumer in this future job market the most important thing you can teach your child is how to think both creatively and critically. Our education system has not been set up for that because the biggest demand for employment currently is people to perform mindless, menial drudgery. Mindless, menial drudgery is going to be the first jobs being replaced. The few human occupations that are more meaningful than simply being a consumer will be filled by people who can think creatively and critically and our current educational system does not value those skills. That is going to have to change.

In a very short while AI will be such a force multiplier that a creative person such as myself will be able to, on my own, produce a fully animated 1/2 hour episode of Ghastly's Ghastly Comic with significantly less labour than I was able to produce a single GGC webcomic by hand. But most people while growing up were discouraged to think creatively and critically because we didn't need those type of people in great numbers. Growing up most people were told "get a trade" or "learn to code" because those were the jobs that were needed in great numbers and people who studied the arts were seen as lesser people, effeminate and weak, not rugged and self reliant like people who use their muscles to make a living. We're reaching the end of a long era where human muscle is needed.

The wealth AI is going to be able to generate is going to be such that we will have no problem creating a system where the average person lives a lifestyle for in excess of what they currently do and corporate interests are going to insist that a system that guarantees the bottom tiers of Maslow's hierarchy of needs because as capitalistic entities they cannot survive without a massive base of consumers.
 
2023-01-27 10:17:00 PM  
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2023-01-27 10:44:35 PM  

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Pobrecito.

The name of the user, it checks out.
 
2023-01-28 12:53:19 AM  

ColleenSezWhuut: MikeyFuccon: Pay-walled for me, so DNRTFA, but...

HR do a lot of things, and ChatGPT promises to automate some more things, just as Excel did.

This does not mean you can fire the HR department because women's work isn't real work and all HR is for is providing a make-work job for management's wives and mistresses.

It means HR staff (who are, indeed, a majority-female team) can do paperwork faster, and focus on more "creative" tasks that need a human touch, because no two are quite alike, such as resolution of workplace conflicts such as that between subby and, um, every woman in the firm under 50.

With the possible exception of his mom.

(Of course, the only person who works at subby's firm for purely nepotistic reasons is subby---and Mom mostly did it to get him out of the house and out of her panty drawer. Fortunately for them both, he hasn't screwed up badly enough that Mom couldn't smooth things over with the rest of the top brass.

Yet.)

Found the HR drone


That was ChatGPT. The prompt was "write a story about a nepo baby."
 
2023-01-28 10:24:22 AM  

weddingsinger: Oh, good, replacing the people responsible for (alledgedly) policing the workplace to keep it safe and inclusive will be automated by an easily manipulated A.I. that can't be held accountable.  Neat.


That's not what hr does. But I see the misinformation campaign was successful.
 
2023-01-28 10:38:05 AM  

bigdog1960: That's not what hr does. But I see the misinformation campaign was successful.


Fair point. Banal. Simple. But fair. What does HR do?
 
2023-01-28 10:39:38 AM  
Finally. I'll miss seeing the ones at my current job b/c they like body-hugging dresses and have the booty to do them justice, but they're HR and they're damged goods.
 
2023-01-28 3:43:55 PM  

ColleenSezWhuut: MikeyFuccon: Pay-walled for me, so DNRTFA, but...

HR do a lot of things, and ChatGPT promises to automate some more things, just as Excel did.

This does not mean you can fire the HR department because women's work isn't real work and all HR is for is providing a make-work job for management's wives and mistresses.

It means HR staff (who are, indeed, a majority-female team) can do paperwork faster, and focus on more "creative" tasks that need a human touch, because no two are quite alike, such as resolution of workplace conflicts such as that between subby and, um, every woman in the firm under 50.

With the possible exception of his mom.

(Of course, the only person who works at subby's firm for purely nepotistic reasons is subby---and Mom mostly did it to get him out of the house and out of her panty drawer. Fortunately for them both, he hasn't screwed up badly enough that Mom couldn't smooth things over with the rest of the top brass.

Yet.)

Found the HR drone


Found the 'locker room' talker who just wants to be able to tell edgy jokes and gets anxious about simple employee handbook guidelines being enforced.
 
2023-01-28 4:16:07 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: ColleenSezWhuut: MikeyFuccon: Pay-walled for me, so DNRTFA, but...

HR do a lot of things, and ChatGPT promises to automate some more things, just as Excel did.

This does not mean you can fire the HR department because women's work isn't real work and all HR is for is providing a make-work job for management's wives and mistresses.

It means HR staff (who are, indeed, a majority-female team) can do paperwork faster, and focus on more "creative" tasks that need a human touch, because no two are quite alike, such as resolution of workplace conflicts such as that between subby and, um, every woman in the firm under 50.

With the possible exception of his mom.

(Of course, the only person who works at subby's firm for purely nepotistic reasons is subby---and Mom mostly did it to get him out of the house and out of her panty drawer. Fortunately for them both, he hasn't screwed up badly enough that Mom couldn't smooth things over with the rest of the top brass.

Yet.)

Found the HR drone

Found the 'locker room' talker who just wants to be able to tell edgy jokes and gets anxious about simple employee handbook guidelines being enforced.


Have fun building synergy while pretending you know what candidates need to know about the jobs you can't possibly understand but still believe you are the expert recruiter for.
 
2023-01-28 7:00:19 PM  

ColleenSezWhuut: DeathByGeekSquad: ColleenSezWhuut: MikeyFuccon: Pay-walled for me, so DNRTFA, but...

HR do a lot of things, and ChatGPT promises to automate some more things, just as Excel did.

This does not mean you can fire the HR department because women's work isn't real work and all HR is for is providing a make-work job for management's wives and mistresses.

It means HR staff (who are, indeed, a majority-female team) can do paperwork faster, and focus on more "creative" tasks that need a human touch, because no two are quite alike, such as resolution of workplace conflicts such as that between subby and, um, every woman in the firm under 50.

With the possible exception of his mom.

(Of course, the only person who works at subby's firm for purely nepotistic reasons is subby---and Mom mostly did it to get him out of the house and out of her panty drawer. Fortunately for them both, he hasn't screwed up badly enough that Mom couldn't smooth things over with the rest of the top brass.

Yet.)

Found the HR drone

Found the 'locker room' talker who just wants to be able to tell edgy jokes and gets anxious about simple employee handbook guidelines being enforced.

Have fun building synergy while pretending you know what candidates need to know about the jobs you can't possibly understand but still believe you are the expert recruiter for.


I had fun working with our recruiter to fill out the positions I needed for my company as we scaled.  Positions that I've done the tasks and responsibilities for in the past, and knew from peers and mentors what skills to seek out as we built upon the foundation of those efforts.

But hey, gotta maintain the ability for your stupid crude jokes at the workplace, right?
 
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