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(Forbes)   AP: please stop using the word "the" in front of disadvantaged folks, such as "the poor", or "the mentally disabled", and "the French"   (forbes.com) divider line
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1896 clicks; posted to Main » on 27 Jan 2023 at 3:21 PM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2023-01-27 2:25:20 PM  
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2023-01-27 2:57:34 PM  
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2023-01-27 2:58:47 PM  
Is your name Kate L Turabian or Chicago? No? Then kindly fark the off.
 
2023-01-27 3:23:08 PM  
I guess "The Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys" is right out.
 
2023-01-27 3:23:22 PM  
Bart unavailable for comment.
 
2023-01-27 3:24:21 PM  
And don't call people "homeless", call them "unhoused", which means the same thing but apparently makes us feel better.

And don't even get me started on people who use "Latinx"
 
2023-01-27 3:24:49 PM  
The AP must be attention starved again.
 
2023-01-27 3:25:54 PM  
Would like a word.

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2023-01-27 3:27:07 PM  
Wow, I thought that was a terrible joke by Subby. How the fark did AP do that?
 
2023-01-27 3:27:59 PM  
So...don't call them:

The the poor, the the French, or the the Fark Left?

Ok, I can respect that.
 
2023-01-27 3:28:32 PM  
The funny.
 
2023-01-27 3:29:20 PM  

dywed88: Wow, I thought that was a terrible joke by Subby. How the fark did AP do that?


Yeah, how dare they lump French people in with the college educated! Bastards!
 
2023-01-27 3:29:39 PM  
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2023-01-27 3:29:53 PM  

SurelyShirley: Would like a word.

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Highway 101?  How is that relevant?
 
2023-01-27 3:29:54 PM  
Fine.

Le French.

Happy now?
 
2023-01-27 3:30:00 PM  
THE Associated Press
 
2023-01-27 3:30:25 PM  
It's not the ATM machine it's just a ATM machine.
 
2023-01-27 3:30:47 PM  
Or should that be les French?
 
2023-01-27 3:31:01 PM  
Subby repeats himself.....
 
2023-01-27 3:31:19 PM  
Walker:

It's not unhoused, it's undomiciled.

There's a difference!
 
2023-01-27 3:31:33 PM  
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This can get complicated...
 
2023-01-27 3:31:33 PM  

Walker: And don't call people "homeless", call them "unhoused", which means the same thing but apparently makes us feel better.


Here's what bothers me about language,  the term "homeless problem". The problem isn't the homeless part. This reduces people to a problem. The real problem is that people are suffering on the streets with no place to live.
Well I guess it's a problem if you're a rich tech-bro that has to see the suffering going on and they just won't go away. Uncomfortable!
 
2023-01-27 3:32:21 PM  

Ravage: SurelyShirley: Would like a word.

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Highway 101?  How is that relevant?


In California, they put "the" in front of highway numbers for some reason. Instead of Highway 101, they call it The 101 (or The PCH)
 
2023-01-27 3:32:54 PM  
Bring me your hungry, your tired, your French...
 
2023-01-27 3:33:22 PM  
The Dutch
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2023-01-27 3:33:31 PM  

Ravage: SurelyShirley: Would like a word.

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Highway 101?  How is that relevant?


In Southern California it is.  Elsewhere, not so much.

/The 101
 
2023-01-27 3:33:36 PM  

genner: It's not the ATM machine it's just a ATM machine.


This means something completely different in the porn community.

Always use the indefinite article a dildo, never your dildo.
 
2023-01-27 3:33:38 PM  
My parents had this game. I never understood it. It's French


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2023-01-27 3:36:32 PM  
That's interesting...in that when one refers to the French language in French, it is Français. If one refers to the nation of France in French, it is La France. If one is referring to the people of France in French it is Les Français.

/ It's probably not the word itself so much as it is the intent behind the word. THE French as a phrase seems...reductive.
 
2023-01-27 3:36:43 PM  

basscomm: Ravage: SurelyShirley: Would like a word.

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Highway 101?  How is that relevant?

In California, they put "the" in front of highway numbers for some reason. Instead of Highway 101, they call it The 101 (or The PCH)


In most of the country, state routes could have the same number as Federal highways.  So, people need to be specific and say things like "state route 101" or "highway 101" (or more commonly, "Interstate 5").

In Southern California, there are a lot of freeways.  Some are Federal highways; some are just state ones.  But no numbers are duplicated because California is smart like that, to prevent confusion.  And nobody cares which it is legally.  So, "The 101".

/in Northern California, same deal, but they drop the "the"
 
2023-01-27 3:37:07 PM  

steklo: My parents had this game. I never understood it. It's French


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1000 miles.
 
2023-01-27 3:37:22 PM  

steklo: My parents had this game. I never understood it. It's French


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My extended family used to (or maybe still do? Haven't seen those people in ages) play a card game they called "cloten," or something. As far as I'm aware it's somewhat similar to euchre.

I've tried playing a few times but I could never get a grip on the rules. It seemed like they were changing constantly. Like Calvinball, the Card Game.

Anyways. That's my cool inscrutable family card game story, bro.
 
2023-01-27 3:37:32 PM  
Shut, the fark, up.
 
2023-01-27 3:42:10 PM  

steklo: My parents had this game. I never understood it. It's French


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Mille bornes (literally "mile terminals") refers to milestones in France, which confuses me since France went metric in 1795. Shouldn't it be kilometer-stones? But that just sounds dumb. Who the hell wants to say "kilometer-stones" or whatever French for that is? Obviously France shouldn't have switched to metric!

/ milestones date to Roman times
 
2023-01-27 3:42:57 PM  
Russians really have a hurdle when it comes to THE Definite Pronoun.  It tortures them.
 
2023-01-27 3:43:22 PM  

Shostie: Like Calvinball, the Card Game.


I miss Calvin and Hobbes.

It was the only reason I bought a newspaper from 1985 to 1995.
 
2023-01-27 3:43:38 PM  
OK, When you attach the article "the" to any person or group of people you are dehumanizing them.

You are calling them a thing, "the poor" also "the rich,"the beautiful", "The Few, The Proud, The Marines" and/or "Let me tell about the Negro."

But (what AP doesn't get) is that sometimes that's appropriate. In a conversion about economics, "the rich" and "the poor" aren't discussed as human beings with feelings (granted they are) they are elements in an equation.

But then again there is no room for nuance in the 21st Century.
 
2023-01-27 3:45:43 PM  

Walker: And don't call people "homeless", call them "unhoused", which means the same thing but apparently makes us feel better.

And don't even get me started on people who use "Latinx"


Mummies are now "embalmed persons" which I guess differentiates them from a doorstop.
 
2023-01-27 3:46:06 PM  

patrick767: milestones date to Roman times


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See this road? I think it was one of the first paved roads in Italy. SS1 The Aurella.

I had an accident on it, here right in front of the Agip gas station between Livorno and Pisa. Crashed my car into the middle tree.

I figured it was best to aim for the tree and not a gas pump.
 
2023-01-27 3:47:58 PM  
Of course the French would want others to quit.
 
2023-01-27 3:48:13 PM  
Everything is Proper Noun in singular form.

I rode Bicycle this morning and then went to Donut Shop to have Bearclaw and Latte. They have Mask Policy, but I refuse to wear Mask because of Freedom. I asked to speak to Manager. Manager was very rude. I am being Cancel.
 
2023-01-27 3:51:18 PM  

Walker: And don't call people "homeless", call them "unhoused", which means the same thing but apparently makes us feel better.

And don't even get me started on people who use "Latinx"


People experiencing homelessness.

Unhoused still attaches the situation to them.  They are unhoused.  It makes it part of them, and not something happening to them.

You wouldn't say "the raped".  People who have experienced rape.
 
2023-01-27 3:52:12 PM  
I'm still on Fark mainly just to see what I Have A Bo Burnham GIF For That posts in threads like this.
 
2023-01-27 3:53:20 PM  

steklo: patrick767: milestones date to Roman times

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See this road? I think it was one of the first paved roads in Italy. SS1 The Aurella.

I had an accident on it, here right in front of the Agip gas station between Livorno and Pisa. Crashed my car into the middle tree.

I figured it was best to aim for the tree and not a gas pump.


Ugh, I hate the Aurella. Worst idea for salads ever.
 
2023-01-27 3:53:32 PM  

brainlordmesomorph: is that sometimes that's appropriate.


Which is why they wrote "often dehumanizing".

But then again there is no room for reading text before talking about text in the 21st Century
 
2023-01-27 3:54:12 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: Shut, the fark, up.


I Lol.
 
2023-01-27 3:55:51 PM  

Walker: And don't even get me started on people who use "Latinx"


I can't figure how to pronounce it:  Latin-ex?, La-tinks? Pronounce the X as "ch"?
 
2023-01-27 3:56:03 PM  
What about ...

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damnit!
 
2023-01-27 3:57:54 PM  

djfitz: Here's what bothers me about language,  the term "homeless problem". The problem isn't the homeless part. This reduces people to a problem. The real problem is that people are suffering on the streets with no place to live.


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2023-01-27 4:01:19 PM  

patrick767: steklo: My parents had this game. I never understood it. It's French


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Mille bornes (literally "mile terminals") refers to milestones in France, which confuses me since France went metric in 1795. Shouldn't it be kilometer-stones? But that just sounds dumb. Who the hell wants to say "kilometer-stones" or whatever French for that is? Obviously France shouldn't have switched to metric!

/ milestones date to Roman times


In French, "mile" with a single L means "mile". "Mille" with two Ls means "a thousand", so it actually means "A thousand terminals".
 
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