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Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 9:46:03 AM  
Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.
 
sorceror [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 9:54:03 AM  
"Two members of the city's fire department who were part of Nichols' "initial patient care" have also been relieved of duty, according to a department spokesperson."

I wish I could be surprised by that.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 9:56:54 AM  
ACAB

/that first A is important
 
Poopspasm
2023-01-27 10:04:12 AM  
"It's so bad, republicans will masturbate to it."
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-01-27 10:04:52 AM  
They're basically acknowledging that burning everything down is the proper response and begging people to not do what any community would do when a politically untouchable organization sends agents out to kill people.
 
meat0918 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 10:05:55 AM  
I misread that as "define humanity" and was like, wow that's some depressing honesty
 
kindms
2023-01-27 10:06:05 AM  
this is going to be really bad.
 
Subtonic
2023-01-27 10:06:33 AM  
"Please do not riot when you see this shiat."
 
gilgigamesh
2023-01-27 10:06:38 AM  

Gubbo: ACAB

/that first A is important


Yep.

It's a point people often miss: it's the race of the victim that matters. Not the race of the cops. Black cops can be as bad or worse than their white colleagues.
 
LineNoise [OhFark]
2023-01-27 10:06:38 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.


Honestly, i think the video is going to be JUST THAT BAD where you can't even find a strawman breaking it down to say "well what if......". Their union, the rest of the force, etc has hung these guys out to dry, when you would have at least expected a "This is obviously not racially motivated, and is caused by gaps in training" or something
 
DoganSquirrelSlayer
2023-01-27 10:06:42 AM  
The video is a very good demonstration of the effect that relatively peaceful protest for police reform has had.
 
mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:06:51 AM  
Subby here. My dad has been on a non-stop rant about wanting to know "if this guy was a criminal," because in his mind he's already settled on the victim being a N-BONG and deserving the beating.

I wanted to know what the guy did that police considered to be "reckless driving" as stated in their reason for stopping him. It was said police pulled him over for reckless driving, there was a "confrontation," he fled from them on foot, and when they caught him there was another "confrontation." Following his arrest they took him to the hospital and he was apparently already dead at that point and just put on life support for the family to later pull the plug.

The charges are interesting: charges of aggravated kidnapping are included. The DA explained it as police basically having zero reason to detain him in the first place (making it kidnapping) and then they injured him (making it aggravated).

Rumors now are that the first "confrontation" was him arguing with police about why they pulled him over. Sounds like he was stopped for zero reason.

I want to see patrol car camera video for what police claim was the "reckless driving." I want to see if it was something like he signaled a turn 98 feet before instead of the required 100 feet before.
 
Teddy Brosevelt
2023-01-27 10:06:53 AM  
It's gonna be a rough weekend in Memphis.
 
stevenboof [OhFark]
2023-01-27 10:07:13 AM  
I want to know who thought, "Hey, Friday night is a great time to release this."  And no, not that one Farker...
 
Hugh2d2
2023-01-27 10:07:22 AM  
Possible that he's not familiar with humans.
 
Iowan73
2023-01-27 10:07:31 AM  

kindms: this is going to be really bad.


When they fire and charge the officers before the tape comes out, you know it's going to be next-level horrifying.
 
Somaticasual [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:07:46 AM  
And that's just from the Police....
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-01-27 10:07:56 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.


You aren't the only one that is too cynical.  We've all been trained by reality to expect the same thing.  Were these officers white, this department would be going to the mat to protect them.  They would still be employed.  They would never be arrested.  We all know it.
 
Fooshards
2023-01-27 10:08:27 AM  
For what it is worth, at least this time the PD has had the presence of mind to fire all the officers and press charges - instead of file some bullshiat report and give the cops desk jobs a county over.

Consequences are an important part of reform - peers need to see consequences be dealt out and followed through with.
 
Another Government Employee
2023-01-27 10:08:42 AM  
It sounds like these guys make Chauvin look like a saint.
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:08:45 AM  
With Days Like This
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State of emergency called for Atlanta area. Protesters. It seems vandals also take this opportunity to create havoc giving the protesters a bad rap.
 
EyeballKid
2023-01-27 10:09:17 AM  
Good thing we didn't defund the police, huh?
 
LyleJohn
2023-01-27 10:09:23 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.


I'm just relieved I'm not the only one who thought this.
 
Marcos P
2023-01-27 10:09:51 AM  
Real bad shiat man.
 
odinsposse
2023-01-27 10:09:58 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.


I for one would be more tempted to make "police culture is broken due to a lack of strong role models" jokes.
 
Tyrone Slothrop [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:09:59 AM  
On the contrary, racist bastards in positions in power is very human, and very American.
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 10:10:10 AM  

Poopspasm: "It's so bad, republicans will masturbate to it."


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mrmopar5287 [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:10:21 AM  

stevenboof: I want to know who thought, "Hey, Friday night is a great time to release this."


They're expecting massive disruptions so they are at least pushing the initial rioting out of the standard work week.
 
gilgigamesh
2023-01-27 10:10:23 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: They're basically acknowledging that burning everything down is the proper response and begging people to not do what any community would do when a politically untouchable organization sends agents out to kill people.


Burning shiat down is the response when cops get away with it. It's not random and pointless rage, its frustration at the lack of justice.

These cops were fired and arrested and will spend the rest of their lives in prison. Right wingers would have you believe that won't matter, people will riot anyway because they are animals looking for an excuse. It isn't going to happen, because that's not why people riot.
 
OtherLittleGuy [BareFark]
2023-01-27 10:10:45 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.


Thread(s). I'm just waiting to see what the overaction of police/law enforcement/personal state guard *koff*Florida*koff* is going to be.
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-01-27 10:11:18 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: They're basically acknowledging that burning everything down is the proper response and begging people to not do what any community would do when a politically untouchable organization sends agents out to kill people.


And hoping that no one notices that they treated Black police officers the way they should treat White police officers that do the same goddamn thing.
 
kindms
2023-01-27 10:11:25 AM  

stevenboof: I want to know who thought, "Hey, Friday night is a great time to release this."  And no, not that one Farker...


6 pm after rush hour and before a planned protest can take shape. They are basically letting anyone who doesnt need to be in Memphis a chance to get the hell out before all hell breaks loose

and they are hoping it being done on a friday evening will do something to lessen the response
 
DarkSoulNoHope
2023-01-27 10:11:28 AM  

Poopspasm: "It's so bad, republicans will masturbate to it."


Yep, they even bring along the police officer who murdered a black person to a restaurant to show everything to the group and the patrons: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/footage-breonna-taylors-shooting-shown-kentucky-restaurant-rcna66748
 
ChrisDe
2023-01-27 10:11:31 AM  
Any chance they can release the footage ten minutes before a thunderstorm rolls through town? Other than that, prepare for the worst. This one sounds exceptionally bad.
 
Ker_Thwap [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 10:11:34 AM  

meat0918: I misread that as "define humanity" and was like, wow that's some depressing honesty


I didn't misread it, but merely substituted it.  It's basically calling the black cops subhuman, which is nothing new from our protect and servers.

Sadly, this behavior is all too human.  Power corrupts and all that.
 
professionalenabler
2023-01-27 10:11:36 AM  
https://www.theonion.com/police-urge-calm-in-light-of-unspeakable-evil-they-comm-1850036255
Police Urge Calm In Light Of Unspeakable Evil They Committed
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MEMPHIS, TN-In an attempt to quell public outrage over the upcoming release of body-cam footage showing the deadly beating of Tyre Nichols by five of its officers, the Memphis Police Department continued to urge calm Thursday in light of the unspeakable evil they had committed. "I understand that this heinous atrocity beyond the comprehension of anyone with a shred of basic human decency might be upsetting to some, but we are asking everyone to please maintain their composure," said police chief Cerelyn Davis, explaining that while it was regrettable that officers were mercilessly slaughtering innocents in the streets with complete disregard for their humanity, it was no excuse for causing a big commotion. "This barbaric instance of malice and savagery need not inspire uproar. I pray that cooler heads prevail during this time of unending death and misery being inflicted upon the powerless masses." Davis went on to insist that any sign of unrest would only give the forces of unconscionable evil an excuse to impose even more wanton suffering on those who have no choice but to endure it.
 
wingedkat [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:11:36 AM  
I really don't want to see the beating itself.  I mean, a man died.  I know it was awful.

Unless some of the cops were trying to restrain the others or something (and I assume not considering that they were all fired) I just don't see how three minutes of beating a man to death will be useful to anyone.

What I want to see is what led up to the beating.  How did a traffic stop turn into a beating?  How many chances to let it go or deescalate were missed? How can we change procedure and training to find a different outcome?
 
Greil
2023-01-27 10:11:36 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.


You saw the hospital photo, right? I don't think skin color would have made a difference to the other cops this time, it's clear the video is very, very bad even without seeing it.
 
EyeballKid
2023-01-27 10:11:47 AM  
Remember, go to the rich parts of town to riot.
 
Smidge204
2023-01-27 10:12:17 AM  

Gubbo: ACAB

/that first A is important


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skyotter
2023-01-27 10:12:20 AM  
The silence from their police union is very telling.
 
GoldSpider
2023-01-27 10:12:39 AM  
Cross-posted in Main/Politics.  Buckle up!
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-01-27 10:13:04 AM  

Greil: You saw the hospital photo, right? I don't think skin color would have made a difference to the other cops this time, it's clear the video is very, very bad even without seeing it.


The point is that White police officers would have received the full support of their union, department, local, county and state government.
 
HotWingConspiracy
2023-01-27 10:13:04 AM  

gilgigamesh: HotWingConspiracy: They're basically acknowledging that burning everything down is the proper response and begging people to not do what any community would do when a politically untouchable organization sends agents out to kill people.

Burning shiat down is the response when cops get away with it. It's not random and pointless rage, its frustration at the lack of justice.


This is a complete lack of justice. 

These cops were fired and arrested and will spend the rest of their lives in prison. Right wingers would have you believe that won't matter, people will riot anyway because they are animals looking for an excuse. It isn't going to happen, because that's not why people riot.

Maybe
 
Jeebus Saves
2023-01-27 10:13:20 AM  

LyleJohn: Pocket Ninja: Here's the point where I'd like to be able to select "save game," back up to the point right before this happened, and swap all five of the officers who murdered this man with white officers. Then, press play and see where things stand at this point with that alternate scenario in place. I'm specifically wondering whether:

A) All five officers would have been as quickly fired.
B) All five officers would have been as quickly charged with as serious charges.
C) There wouldn't have been vastly more resistance toward releasing the tape.

Ah, but I guess I'm just too cynical. Never mind, this is all clearly an indication that police reform is working as intended.

I'm just relieved I'm not the only one who thought this.


White cops get away with everything.

Some of you need to see a therapist.
 
iron_city_ap
2023-01-27 10:13:34 AM  
Adios, Memphis. Hopefully Kyle Rittenhouse shows up to protect a car dealership.
 
JimmyTheHutt
2023-01-27 10:13:53 AM  

skyotter: The silence from their police union is very telling.


They are the wrong color for their Union to protect them.

Not that it should, but the police Union would be pulling out all the stops if the officers had been White.
 
ChimpMitten
2023-01-27 10:13:55 AM  
Kyle Rittenhouse seen booking a flight to Memphis for a previously scheduled vacation.
 
Trocadero
2023-01-27 10:13:56 AM  

gilgigamesh: These cops were fired and arrested and will spend the rest of their lives in prison.


I was 9 years old when the Rodney King tape came out, and I'll never trust the court system the rest of my days.
 
Tyrone Slothrop [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:14:16 AM  

EyeballKid: Good thing we didn't defund the police, huh?


"Look, if we want to stop police violence, we need to give police more money, not less."

This message brought to you by Joe Biden
 
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