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(The Hill)   Much like racial tolerance, sanity, and attractive people, red states are losing abortion access   (thehill.com) divider line
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yohohogreengiant [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 8:46:53 AM  
David O'Steen, former executive director of the National Right to Life Committee. "The pro-life movement doesn't want
[white] mothers to die."

ftfy, The sHill

Don't believe me? What's the maternal mortality rates broken down by race in red hell states?
 
Combustion [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 10:52:43 AM  

yohohogreengiant: David O'Steen, former executive director of the National Right to Life Committee. "The pro-life movement doesn't want
[white] mothers to die."

ftfy, The sHill

Don't believe me? What's the maternal mortality rates broken down by race in red hell states?


Then he concluded: "After that kid's born, we don't farking care, though."
 
SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 3:08:23 PM  

Combustion: Then he concluded: "After that kid's born, we don't farking care, though."



The GQP believes that life begins at conception and ends at birth.
 
Snapper Carr
2023-01-27 3:09:21 PM  
Poor people in red states are losing abortion access.

Senator Dumbfark can still put his mistress on a plane to California to get the little bastard vacuumed out.
 
4seasons85! [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 3:09:26 PM  
It dawned on me the other day that animals, including farm animals, have more rights when it comes to pregnancy complications then women in some states. Farmers will do what they can to preserve the cow if a calf is threatening the life of the mom. Women in these states are less than a cow.
 
AeAe
2023-01-27 3:14:30 PM  
A zygote has more rights than the mother.
 
odinsposse
2023-01-27 3:15:42 PM  
They want to drive sensible people out of their states so they can easily control that obedient bootlickers who remain.
 
Moroning [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 3:16:00 PM  

4seasons85!: It dawned on me the other day that animals, including farm animals, have more rights when it comes to pregnancy complications then women in some states. Farmers will do what they can to preserve the cow if a calf is threatening the life of the mom. Women in these states are less than a cow.


As a former ranch kid, the only area where the cow has it worse is there is no pain meds given to cows during or after C-sections.
 
groppet
2023-01-27 3:20:49 PM  
Well we are running out of people
 
Moroning [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 3:21:25 PM  

groppet: Well we are running out of people


**citation needed**
 
Fart_Machine
2023-01-27 3:22:47 PM  

AeAe: A zygote has more rights than the mother.


A corpse has more rights than the mother.
 
Bith Set Me Up
2023-01-27 3:23:03 PM  
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It isn't "red states vs. blue states" it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://jacobin.com/2023/01/abortion-economic-justice-personal-choice-reproductive-rights-working-class
 
flypusher713
2023-01-27 3:23:13 PM  

AeAe: A zygote has more rights than the mother.


Sometimes a hypothetical zygote has more rights, if the story about a woman with rheumatoid arthritis (and not pregnant) being denied her methotrexate prescription is accurate.
 
Samfucious [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 3:24:10 PM  
The biggest wtf of these backward conservative communities is that, not only do they not want to do anything to make their community an attractive place to be for anyone worth anything, but they actively fight to be regressive.

Then they look for any external scapegoat for why their community is shrinking, as nobody who grows up there wants to stay.
 
Samfucious [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 3:24:56 PM  

groppet: Well we are running out of people


Just how much soylent green do you think we're going to need?
 
Moroning [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 3:26:04 PM  

Samfucious: The biggest wtf of these backward conservative communities is that, not only do they not want to do anything to make their community an attractive place to be for anyone worth anything, but they actively fight to be regressive.

Then they look for any external scapegoat for why their community is shrinking, as nobody who grows up there wants to stay.


They hate.  They don't know how not to hate.
 
justanotherfarkinfarker
2023-01-27 3:30:52 PM  
Red states have no shortage of attractive people. They tend to be in the south and warm so they attract the young and sometimes dumb to beaches and college. Of course those are often the blue pockets if you view an election map. If it went straight numbers in an election not the bullshiat we have with electoral maps. Many wouldn't be red states with the whole land doesn't vote thing.
 
Thank You Black Jesus! [BareFark]
2023-01-27 3:32:47 PM  

AeAe: A zygote has more rights than the mother.


and a military grade machine gun more than either
 
dericwater [BareFark]
2023-01-27 3:33:10 PM  

4seasons85!: It dawned on me the other day that animals, including farm animals, have more rights when it comes to pregnancy complications then women in some states. Farmers will do what they can to preserve the cow if a calf is threatening the life of the mom. Women in these states are less than a cow.


AeAe: A zygote has more rights than the mother.


First, a cow has more rights. Now, a gote has more rights. Next, you're going to tell me that chicken eggs have more rights before the chicks hatch than women.
 
Weaver95
2023-01-27 3:35:36 PM  
Infant childbirth fatality rates are also hitting levels not seen in "first world" countries.

Essentially red states are 3rd world shiat holes.
 
Thank You Black Jesus! [BareFark]
2023-01-27 3:37:56 PM  

Samfucious: The biggest wtf of these backward conservative communities is that, not only do they not want to do anything to make their community an attractive place to be for anyone worth anything, but they actively fight to be regressive.

Then they look for any external scapegoat for why their community is shrinking, as nobody who grows up there wants to stay.


iT's cHeAp hErE  wHy fEr tHeY pAyIn sO mUcH iN dAnGoL' cAlIf0rNiA?

because it's worth literally *any* expenditure to not live in Sisterf&ck Holler to someone who enjoys new people and new experiences.  lord help you if you get on the wrong side of the gossip in a town of 400 people.
 
Dictatorial_Flair
2023-01-27 3:38:13 PM  
Maybe they should stop voting for farking Republicans.
 
Weaver95
2023-01-27 3:41:48 PM  

Dictatorial_Flair: Maybe they should stop voting for farking Republicans.


They did...the GOP just started stealing elections they knew they can't win legally or fairly.

This will just keep getting worse. It's clear that conservatives are done with democracy. They're going to start forcing women to wear monitoring and tracking gear next.
 
LarryDan43
2023-01-27 3:42:34 PM  
Yeah but they are getting way more poverty which means they can get more government funding to fight poverty in such a way that the funds go to rich people.
 
BitwiseShift
2023-01-27 3:46:14 PM  
Who needs the humanities or culture when AI will be running the red states soon.    Blue states will have a border crises with the unwashed and uneducated trying to climb the razor wire to gain entrance.
 
The Reverend Sam Hill [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 3:46:17 PM  

Thank You Black Jesus!: Samfucious: The biggest wtf of these backward conservative communities is that, not only do they not want to do anything to make their community an attractive place to be for anyone worth anything, but they actively fight to be regressive.

Then they look for any external scapegoat for why their community is shrinking, as nobody who grows up there wants to stay.

iT's cHeAp hErE  wHy fEr tHeY pAyIn sO mUcH iN dAnGoL' cAlIf0rNiA?

because it's worth literally *any* expenditure to not live in Sisterf&ck Holler to someone who enjoys new people and new experiences.  lord help you if you get on the wrong side of the gossip in a town of 400 people.


The Bible has some choice words about gossip.
 
mistahtom
2023-01-27 3:50:27 PM  
We are 31 weeks past this miscarriage of justice by SCOTUS.
 
oldfool
2023-01-27 4:01:27 PM  
Meat for the war machine!
 
KodosZardoz
2023-01-27 4:01:45 PM  
That's fine. Keep voting for republicans in those states. Keep doing it again and again until you actually learn.
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/and no I'm not saying don't vote. I'm just trying to make people learn to stop voting for fascists
 
kmgenesis23
2023-01-27 4:01:54 PM  

Snapper Carr: Poor people in red states are losing abortion access.

Senator Dumbfark can still put his mistress on a plane to California to get the little bastard vacuumed out.


Totally unworkable, but I would love to see some sort of push to prevent that kind of thing. Like ... Registered Republican from another state? Sorry. We reserve our abortion appointments for people who aren't part of the problem. Don't like it? Go back to your own state and vote accordingly to change things. In the meantime, enjoy the kid you clearly don't want to have.
 
recondite cetacean
2023-01-27 4:03:26 PM  

Moroning: groppet: Well we are running out of people

**citation needed**


You rang?uuuuuuoh shiat i did it again. Dammit.
 
jerryskid [recently expired TotalFark]
2023-01-27 4:11:42 PM  
I'm guessing that red states will continue to crank out sub-standard, meth/alcohol stunted vermin born to trailer trash single mothers knocked up by out of work wife beaters like they have been for the last century. Or 20 years after trailers were first manufactured.

But they've got jeebus in their hearts and vacuum in their brains.

Not that there is a stereotype when it seems to always be true.
 
hlehmann
2023-01-27 4:12:28 PM  
I got an email from my medical insurance provider, Blue Shield, yesterday stating that they will cover travel expenses if you need an abortion but live in one those backwards, garbage states that outlaw them.
That's pretty cool, I think.
 
Thank You Black Jesus! [BareFark]
2023-01-27 4:14:31 PM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: Thank You Black Jesus!: Samfucious: The biggest wtf of these backward conservative communities is that, not only do they not want to do anything to make their community an attractive place to be for anyone worth anything, but they actively fight to be regressive.

Then they look for any external scapegoat for why their community is shrinking, as nobody who grows up there wants to stay.

iT's cHeAp hErE  wHy fEr tHeY pAyIn sO mUcH iN dAnGoL' cAlIf0rNiA?

because it's worth literally *any* expenditure to not live in Sisterf&ck Holler to someone who enjoys new people and new experiences.  lord help you if you get on the wrong side of the gossip in a town of 400 people.

The Bible has some choice words about gossip.


yeah, well my dad says you're not a real Reverend
 
Smelly Pirate Hooker
2023-01-27 4:14:38 PM  
But her emails.
 
gadian
2023-01-27 4:18:54 PM  

hlehmann: I got an email from my medical insurance provider, Blue Shield, yesterday stating that they will cover travel expenses if you need an abortion but live in one those backwards, garbage states that outlaw them.
That's pretty cool, I think.


Sure, if you get it preapproved through their particular criteria within a specific amount of time with just the correct language and you've gone through the correct referral process.  You're still dealing with an insurance company.  Oh yeah, and the copays and deductibles and travel approval through specific vendors, etc.
 
SirGunslinger
2023-01-27 4:26:27 PM  

hlehmann: I got an email from my medical insurance provider, Blue Shield, yesterday stating that they will cover travel expenses if you need an abortion but live in one those backwards, garbage states that outlaw them.
That's pretty cool, I think.


Makes sense, from a medical payout view, day trip and an abortion is WAY cheaper than paying out for even a birth with no complications much less one that has any complications.

I am honestly surprised insurance companies haven't been actively lobbying for pro-choice policies for that alone.
 
Moroning [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 4:28:56 PM  

gadian: hlehmann: I got an email from my medical insurance provider, Blue Shield, yesterday stating that they will cover travel expenses if you need an abortion but live in one those backwards, garbage states that outlaw them.
That's pretty cool, I think.

Sure, if you get it preapproved through their particular criteria within a specific amount of time with just the correct language and you've gone through the correct referral process.  You're still dealing with an insurance company.  Oh yeah, and the copays and deductibles and travel approval through specific vendors, etc.


Yep.  Can't wait to hear stories about people getting denied cause they didn't get a referral/authorization before going out of state.  Or BCBS seeing the out of state and denng just cause they don't cover out of state.
 
404 page not found
2023-01-27 4:39:28 PM  
"A small but significant number of Americans know someone who has crossed state lines for an abortion, undergone a birth-control procedure or postponed getting pregnant in the months since the landmark ruling Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which negated a constitutional right to abortion after nearly half a century."

Are women really postponing pregnancy because they might not be able to abort it? I'm sure the pregnant dudes don't gaf lol
 
transporter_ii
2023-01-27 4:41:38 PM  
OK, we've got them now.

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Gyrfalcon [TotalFark]
2023-01-27 4:43:49 PM  

yohohogreengiant: David O'Steen, former executive director of the National Right to Life Committee. "The pro-life movement doesn't want
[white] mothers to die."

ftfy, The sHill

Don't believe me? What's the maternal mortality rates broken down by race in red hell states?


[shrug]

They're higher for black and Hispanic women, of course; but they're also higher for po' w'ite women; and higher for poor whites than for wealthy blacks and Hispanics. Oddly enough, the quality of healthcare available to the mother is what determines maternal and neonatal mortality over race; but you knew that.

What they want is for poor people to die; or rather, they want black people to die and don't care that it means losing lots of undesireable white people in the process. They're not really "our" kind of people, dear.
 
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier
2023-01-27 5:03:52 PM  

hlehmann: I got an email from my medical insurance provider, Blue Shield, yesterday stating that they will cover travel expenses if you need an abortion but live in one those backwards, garbage states that outlaw them.
That's pretty cool, I think.


Because insurance companies are math driven. Sometimes the math is cold, like approving more tests instead of treatment because Nanna's demographic has a 50% mortality rate in 6 months. Sometimes, the math happens to work out for justice, because a $400 plane ticket from Cincinnati to Boston, $200 in car rentals, and 3 nights in a $100 hotel are way cheaper than an untreated miscarriage that does permanent uteri damage costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in treatment and recovery.
 
Dictatorial_Flair
2023-01-27 5:07:43 PM  

Weaver95: Dictatorial_Flair: Maybe they should stop voting for farking Republicans.

They did...the GOP just started stealing elections they knew they can't win legally or fairly.

This will just keep getting worse. It's clear that conservatives are done with democracy. They're going to start forcing women to wear monitoring and tracking gear next.


In many of these places the elections are still not even close. I get that there's a ton of voter suppression and gerrymandering, but Rs still win by double digit percentages on a regular basis.
 
soze [OhFark]
2023-01-27 5:44:20 PM  

404 page not found: "A small but significant number of Americans know someone who has crossed state lines for an abortion, undergone a birth-control procedure or postponed getting pregnant in the months since the landmark ruling Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which negated a constitutional right to abortion after nearly half a century."

Are women really postponing pregnancy because they might not be able to abort it? I'm sure the pregnant dudes don't gaf lol


Because if you get pregnant, it's a risky kind of thing.  If you've got family history or other factors that makes it likely you'll hav ea high risk pregnancy, you might not want to take that chance if you know you won't have access to a procedure to put an end to the condition that may prove fatal or crippling to you.

Lots easier to get a dog.
 
404 page not found
2023-01-27 5:48:46 PM  

soze: 404 page not found: "A small but significant number of Americans know someone who has crossed state lines for an abortion, undergone a birth-control procedure or postponed getting pregnant in the months since the landmark ruling Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which negated a constitutional right to abortion after nearly half a century."

Are women really postponing pregnancy because they might not be able to abort it? I'm sure the pregnant dudes don't gaf lol

Because if you get pregnant, it's a risky kind of thing.  If you've got family history or other factors that makes it likely you'll hav ea high risk pregnancy, you might not want to take that chance if you know you won't have access to a procedure to put an end to the condition that may prove fatal or crippling to you.

Lots easier to get a dog.


Is it as potentially fatal for the pregnant men?
 
Lain the Wary
2023-01-27 6:22:40 PM  

404 page not found: Is it as potentially fatal for the pregnant men?


Trans men exist and can get pregnant. Don't be an ass about this.
 
Bonzo_1116
2023-01-27 6:56:40 PM  

LarryDan43: Yeah but they are getting way more poverty which means they can get more government funding to fight poverty in such a way that the funds go to rich people.


Those funds always eventually end up with rich people regardless of the political leanings of a place.  But in the red states the poor don't even get to touch the money once; it just gets funneled directly into "Christ-centered rehabilitation facilities" run by Buford T. Nepotism.  He's the governor's cousin, and he dang sure knows how to straighten those homeless teens right up!
 
Bonzo_1116
2023-01-27 7:07:49 PM  

404 page not found: "A small but significant number of Americans know someone who has crossed state lines for an abortion, undergone a birth-control procedure or postponed getting pregnant in the months since the landmark ruling Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which negated a constitutional right to abortion after nearly half a century."

Are women really postponing pregnancy because they might not be able to abort it? I'm sure the pregnant dudes don't gaf lol


Yeah, they are.  Mostly it's women who know they are in a high-risk catergory for having a borked pregnancy (genetic issues, using IVF, history of ectopic implantation, difficulties in maintaining a healthy fetus, etc etc etc) who would be thinking twice.  Conceiving a baby and carrying it all the way to term is not easy or "natural" for a sizeable fraction of women.  If I was looking to have a kid with those sorts of issues, I'd want to be in a state where getting a dying fetus out of my uterus before I go septic isn't an issue.

Before the advent of modern medicine, a pregnancy or delivery gone wrong was the #1 killer of women of child bearing age, by a big margin.  That's why you see all the ladies' tombstones in old fashioned cemeteries where age at death is like 25 yrs old, with a little teeny baby grave right next to them.
 
I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-27 7:39:31 PM  
They can move.

People move to escape shiat like this with nothing but the clothes on their back and no legal right to enter the country.

You can move to a blue state legally.

You choose to live under fascism.

Sucks to be you.
 
Jaws_Victim
2023-01-27 10:27:05 PM  
Sounds like if I'm willing to move, I have a chance of being the prettiest girl in the south!
 
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