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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Note To Microsoft: Constantly threatening to increase subscription fees and hardware prices while allowing hedge funds to fire thousands of your employees for kicks makes consumers not want to buy your stuff   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line
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Flowery Twats
2023-01-26 3:27:52 PM  
Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.
 
we_want_a_shrubbery
2023-01-26 3:30:29 PM  
Far be it from me to defend a large and corporationy corporation... but didn't MS hire ~50k last year? So over a 2 year span (checks math) their headcount is still +40k?

Also, PC game pass is the shiznit. Access to soooooo many games for $10/month. I've actually noticed a marked decline in my personal Steam usage.

Couldn't really care less about the XBOX itself, but all things being equal, I do hope it succeeds in some respect so there are lots of better looking PC ports to choose from.

Does Nintendo or Sony offer an equivalent of the Game Pass? There are a few Sony exclusives that I would like to try, but I'm not going to shell out a bunch of money (again) for a console that rarely if ever gets used.
 
born_yesterday [TotalFark]
2023-01-26 3:39:15 PM  
Microsoft office: $100 a year for the rest of my life seems a bit much.
 
moothemagiccow
2023-01-26 3:48:11 PM  

Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.


Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.
 
NuclearPenguins [TotalFark]
2023-01-26 3:50:31 PM  

moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.


This is about gaming. No one thinks about Apple when discussing gaming.
 
Puglio
2023-01-26 3:57:47 PM  

we_want_a_shrubbery: Does Nintendo or Sony offer an equivalent of the Game Pass? There are a few Sony exclusives that I would like to try, but I'm not going to shell out a bunch of money (again) for a console that rarely if ever gets used.


Last I heard, Sony was offering a gamepass equivalent but wasn't putting any games on it that people actually wanted to play.

As far as exclusives, it seems they sometimes eventually make their way to PC. Detroit: Become Human and Heavy Rain did. The Last of Us is getting ported in March.
 
madgonad [OhFark]
2023-01-26 4:04:23 PM  

moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.


Yeah, you are forced to buy it for compatibility with the apps you want to run.

Nobody chooses Microsoft. It is inflicted on them.
 
E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease
2023-01-26 4:14:43 PM  
Nobody chooses Microsoft. It is inflicted on them.

Well, I run OS/2, so there
 
Baloo Uriza
2023-01-26 4:20:28 PM  

Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.


Sometimes it's a choice.  But remember, your IT guy's biggest deliverable is likely billable hours.  In which case, Windows is a perfectly endless well of job security!
 
Karma Chameleon
2023-01-26 4:21:40 PM  
I'm a Linux man so I use Azure
 
Baloo Uriza
2023-01-26 4:22:25 PM  

born_yesterday: Microsoft office: $100 a year for the rest of my life seems a bit much.


LibreOffice has your back.  And is more compatible with older Microsoft Office and Works than current Microsoft Office.  And Microsoft Office can open and save OpenDocument Format.  So not really losing anything by switching.
 
Mikey1969 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-26 4:25:54 PM  
Yeah, totally "for kicks", that's why we didn't have other mass layoffs, just Microsoft. Not IBM, Spotify, Google, Goldman Sachs, Meta, Snapchat, Peloton, Specialized, etc.

Nope, just Microsoft. They're so MEAN!! How can they announce layoffs when absolutely nobody else is?
 
Baloo Uriza
2023-01-26 4:30:20 PM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, totally "for kicks", that's why we didn't have other mass layoffs, just Microsoft. Not IBM, Spotify, Google, Goldman Sachs, Meta, Snapchat, Peloton, Specialized, etc.

Nope, just Microsoft. They're so MEAN!! How can they announce layoffs when absolutely nobody else is?


Is IBM still in business? What do they even do anymore?
 
PvtStash
2023-01-26 4:31:25 PM  
well J. Clara Chan that's a lot of words to suggest xbox customers are just mad at MS.

Surely the slacking sales of a 100% superfluous pastime toy is unrelated to the insane rising costs of food, shelter and water. Right? This is all just related to the way MS behaves as a business, right?
 
Flowery Twats
2023-01-26 4:36:33 PM  

moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.


That's one...:-)

Everyone I know, who could afford to, is running Apple gear. Daughter runs a Windows system for gaming, but Apple for everything else.
 
Flowery Twats
2023-01-26 4:39:05 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Mikey1969: Yeah, totally "for kicks", that's why we didn't have other mass layoffs, just Microsoft. Not IBM, Spotify, Google, Goldman Sachs, Meta, Snapchat, Peloton, Specialized, etc.

Nope, just Microsoft. They're so MEAN!! How can they announce layoffs when absolutely nobody else is?

Is IBM still in business? What do they even do anymore?


Consulting.
If you can't be part of the solution, there's good money to be made prolonging the problem.
 
Iczer
2023-01-26 4:41:35 PM  
Doesn't help they've got the stupidest names for their console for sale... Sony has the PS4, the PS4 Pro, and the PS4 Slim. Microsoft has the Xbox One X, the Series X, and the Series S. The hell are the last two even supposed to mean to the layman?
 
Flowery Twats
2023-01-26 4:42:46 PM  

Baloo Uriza: born_yesterday: Microsoft office: $100 a year for the rest of my life seems a bit much.

LibreOffice has your back.  And is more compatible with older Microsoft Office and Works than current Microsoft Office.  And Microsoft Office can open and save OpenDocument Format.  So not really losing anything by switching.


I have been pleasantly surprised when I have opened some work documents in LibreOffice. And, yes, I am forced to use Win10 on my work laptop.
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-01-26 4:47:53 PM  
Linux - if you're just checking email and browsing the web - is now past the point where anyone who is willing to put a small amount of effort into adapting to the differences can download and try it out.  And Libre Office does well enough as an MS Office substitute as well.

That's got to be 90% of home users, right?  And while I haven't tried it myself yet, my understanding is that Steam works on it to a high degree now too.

But people who aren't techy are just going to keep whatever came with the computer.  They don't see the price, and if they did... at time of purchase they don't want to worry about an OS install   As long as pretty much every assembled PC you buy comes with Windows pre-installed, Windows will be where the market is at.
 
UberNeuman
2023-01-26 4:55:20 PM  
Newsflash: Microsoft is a company that plans on making money and recouping the cost spent hawking Xbox and GamePass and buying game studios.  Just because some of you get wet in the pants over GamePass doesn't mean Microsoft is your best friend ever.
 
leeksfromchichis [TotalFark]
2023-01-26 4:57:43 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Mikey1969: Yeah, totally "for kicks", that's why we didn't have other mass layoffs, just Microsoft. Not IBM, Spotify, Google, Goldman Sachs, Meta, Snapchat, Peloton, Specialized, etc.

Nope, just Microsoft. They're so MEAN!! How can they announce layoffs when absolutely nobody else is?

Is IBM still in business? What do they even do anymore?


IBM is bigger than ever.

Irritable Bowel Man!

He shiats the kick out of criminals.
 
NuclearPenguins [TotalFark]
2023-01-26 5:01:19 PM  

Flowery Twats: moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.

That's one...:-)

Everyone I know, who could afford to, is running Apple gear. Daughter runs a Windows system for gaming, but Apple for everything else.


The old adage still holds true. Fools and their money, etc.
 
Dromaeosaur
2023-01-26 5:07:02 PM  

madgonad: moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.

Yeah, you are forced to buy it for compatibility with the apps you want to run.

Nobody chooses Microsoft. It is inflicted on them.


I choose it. I do .NET, android and web development. I can run all that on a Mac using Parallels or some other emulation software, but I hate their hardware, the price point is insane for the specs you get, and their UI is donkey balls. I could do some of that on Linux, but I don't have the time or the patience, and the few interactions I've had with what they call a community have been...not great.

/It's a tool.
//Do you dorks get at each other's throats over what brand of miter saw you use?
 
Intrepid00 [TotalFark]
2023-01-26 5:07:13 PM  
In this thread delusional neckbeards and let them eat cake apple users.
 
mongbiohazard
2023-01-26 5:21:59 PM  

Baloo Uriza: born_yesterday: Microsoft office: $100 a year for the rest of my life seems a bit much.

LibreOffice has your back.  And is more compatible with older Microsoft Office and Works than current Microsoft Office.  And Microsoft Office can open and save OpenDocument Format.  So not really losing anything by switching.


Or you can go here:
https://consogame.com/software

That's where I bought my legit key for the whole MS Office suite for like $20 or something. I think they're OEM licenses.
 
Sofakinbd [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-26 5:22:15 PM  

we_want_a_shrubbery: Far be it from me to defend a large and corporationy corporation... but didn't MS hire ~50k last year? So over a 2 year span (checks math) their headcount is still +40k?

Also, PC game pass is the shiznit. Access to soooooo many games for $10/month. I've actually noticed a marked decline in my personal Steam usage.


Would you say you are running out of Steam?
 
readymix
2023-01-26 5:30:18 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Linux - if you're just checking email and browsing the web - is now past the point where anyone who is willing to put a small amount of effort into adapting to the differences can download and try it out.  And Libre Office does well enough as an MS Office substitute as well.

That's got to be 90% of home users, right?  And while I haven't tried it myself yet, my understanding is that Steam works on it to a high degree now too.

But people who aren't techy are just going to keep whatever came with the computer.  They don't see the price, and if they did... at time of purchase they don't want to worry about an OS install   As long as pretty much every assembled PC you buy comes with Windows pre-installed, Windows will be where the market is at.


As someone who has 6+ gaming or gaming-capable PCs running Linux + Steam + Proton, I can confirm that it has come a looooooong way.  I only have two personal devices running Windows (in my home office alone I have like 30 network attached computing devices), an old 2016 Razer Blade laptop that has been recently replaced, still running Windows because Razer's shiatty drivers are required for it to operate, and they only work on Windows.  And I have a couple VMs running Windows Server 2019 as Active Directory domain controllers because I use them to test stuff for work.  Everything else is running some flavor of Linux, usually Ubuntu because it tends to just work in 99% of scenarios.
I know there is some issues with games that use Epic's online services/EAC trash and it treats Linux compatibility layers like they are exploits or something, and you end up banned from online play in those games.  But I usually avoid anything related to Epic and block their domains via pi-hole anyway, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything in that regard.  Overall, the Linux gaming experience has gotten good enough that I haven't had to even consider installing Windows in a dual-boot scenario to play something that I want to play.  Plus, there are so many PC games out there right now that if you can't find something fun to play that works on Steam+Proton, you're not looking hard enough.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to Satisfactory because I'm about to unlock Tier 7, and the factory must grow.
 
Beerguy [TotalFark]
2023-01-26 5:34:20 PM  
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RyansPrivates
2023-01-26 5:38:23 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Mikey1969: Yeah, totally "for kicks", that's why we didn't have other mass layoffs, just Microsoft. Not IBM, Spotify, Google, Goldman Sachs, Meta, Snapchat, Peloton, Specialized, etc.

Nope, just Microsoft. They're so MEAN!! How can they announce layoffs when absolutely nobody else is?

Is IBM still in business? What do they even do anymore?


IBM is still in the top 50 of the fortune 500. They do exceedingly boring IT shiat. Which has worked out just fine for them.
 
mongbiohazard
2023-01-26 5:44:37 PM  

moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.


Instinctively I want to hate Windows, but I dislike the other OS's more. Even outside of being experienced on it, it just usually makes logical sense to me how to perform most tasks. I like the choices in regard to hardware and software choices in the Windows environment. I like the UI.

Linux has its advantages - certainly technologically. I've got one Linux adjacent system (Unraid) and I mostly love it. It's kinda amazing how you can just type the right magic words into the console and complex shiat just happens all on its own. But therein lies the rub - if you don't know the right magic words it can be a real challenge to figure out what to do. And online resources can be difficult too, sometimes they're out of date or etc.. That and there's so many distros of actual Linux it can be confusing for the newcomer. The community is a mixture of really helpful and really NOT helpful. If you're an experienced Linux user it is clearly the best, but for normal mortals........ you got a lot of learnin' to do.

But every now and then something with that system goes wrong and the journey to fix it is either - super easy, barely an inconvenience or a serious problem. Not a lot of in between in my experience.

AppleOS? Fark that. I hate it. It's so simplified I have difficulty navigating dirt basic tasks, while other more complex things are a breeze. And it doesn't have the flexibility/customizability of Windows. Plus I use my PC for gaming. And I build all my own PC's... so... Hard pass.

In the end... I kinda do actually like Windows.

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RyansPrivates
2023-01-26 5:46:08 PM  

madgonad: moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.

Yeah, you are forced to buy it for compatibility with the apps you want to run.

Nobody chooses Microsoft. It is inflicted on them.


I choose them for certain things. You can pry VS Code from my cold dead hands. My work laptop is a Macbook Pro and I love it, but my gaming rig/desktop is Windows.

I don't even play many games on it since I got the Steam Deck, though. I do, my coding and 3d printer design work on it. Most of the time at home I write stuff in Python, but I do so in the WSL (Ubuntu). I build a whole VOD transcode pipeline using python. I rip DVDs and Blu Rays, transcode, fix metadata, and upload to my Plex server in basically one fell swoop per disk.
 
blackminded
2023-01-26 6:05:58 PM  

readymix: Unsung_Hero: Linux - if you're just checking email and browsing the web - is now past the point where anyone who is willing to put a small amount of effort into adapting to the differences can download and try it out.  And Libre Office does well enough as an MS Office substitute as well.

That's got to be 90% of home users, right?  And while I haven't tried it myself yet, my understanding is that Steam works on it to a high degree now too.

But people who aren't techy are just going to keep whatever came with the computer.  They don't see the price, and if they did... at time of purchase they don't want to worry about an OS install   As long as pretty much every assembled PC you buy comes with Windows pre-installed, Windows will be where the market is at.

As someone who has 6+ gaming or gaming-capable PCs running Linux + Steam + Proton, I can confirm that it has come a looooooong way.  I only have two personal devices running Windows (in my home office alone I have like 30 network attached computing devices), an old 2016 Razer Blade laptop that has been recently replaced, still running Windows because Razer's shiatty drivers are required for it to operate, and they only work on Windows.  And I have a couple VMs running Windows Server 2019 as Active Directory domain controllers because I use them to test stuff for work.  Everything else is running some flavor of Linux, usually Ubuntu because it tends to just work in 99% of scenarios.
I know there is some issues with games that use Epic's online services/EAC trash and it treats Linux compatibility layers like they are exploits or something, and you end up banned from online play in those games.  But I usually avoid anything related to Epic and block their domains via pi-hole anyway, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything in that regard.  Overall, the Linux gaming experience has gotten good enough that I haven't had to even consider installing Windows in a dual-boot scenario to play something that I want to play.  Plus, there are so many PC games out there right now that if you can't find something fun to play that works on Steam+Proton, you're not looking hard enough.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to Satisfactory because I'm about to unlock Tier 7, and the factory must grow.


Does your utility company suspect you of running a grow operation with all the power you're drawing with that setup?
 
NathanAllen
2023-01-26 6:06:51 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Linux - if you're just checking email and browsing the web - is now past the point where anyone who is willing to put a small amount of effort into adapting to the differences can download and try it out.  And Libre Office does well enough as an MS Office substitute as well.

That's got to be 90% of home users, right?  And while I haven't tried it myself yet, my understanding is that Steam works on it to a high degree now too.

But people who aren't techy are just going to keep whatever came with the computer.  They don't see the price, and if they did... at time of purchase they don't want to worry about an OS install   As long as pretty much every assembled PC you buy comes with Windows pre-installed, Windows will be where the market is at.


How in the heck has Libre Office not been sued out of existence?
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-01-26 6:11:37 PM  

blackminded: Does your utility company suspect you of running a grow operation with all the power you're drawing with that setup?


My VM host keeps my office warmer than the rest of the house, and then I have my workstation, then my wife and kid each have a computer, and each 'television' in our home has a media center attached.

It's a fraction of what even a tiny grow op would use.
 
basscomm
2023-01-26 6:11:40 PM  

NathanAllen: Unsung_Hero: Linux - if you're just checking email and browsing the web - is now past the point where anyone who is willing to put a small amount of effort into adapting to the differences can download and try it out.  And Libre Office does well enough as an MS Office substitute as well.

That's got to be 90% of home users, right?  And while I haven't tried it myself yet, my understanding is that Steam works on it to a high degree now too.

But people who aren't techy are just going to keep whatever came with the computer.  They don't see the price, and if they did... at time of purchase they don't want to worry about an OS install   As long as pretty much every assembled PC you buy comes with Windows pre-installed, Windows will be where the market is at.

How in the heck has Libre Office not been sued out of existence?


Sued by whom and for what?
 
NathanAllen
2023-01-26 6:25:29 PM  

basscomm: NathanAllen: Unsung_Hero: Linux - if you're just checking email and browsing the web - is now past the point where anyone who is willing to put a small amount of effort into adapting to the differences can download and try it out.  And Libre Office does well enough as an MS Office substitute as well.

That's got to be 90% of home users, right?  And while I haven't tried it myself yet, my understanding is that Steam works on it to a high degree now too.

But people who aren't techy are just going to keep whatever came with the computer.  They don't see the price, and if they did... at time of purchase they don't want to worry about an OS install   As long as pretty much every assembled PC you buy comes with Windows pre-installed, Windows will be where the market is at.

How in the heck has Libre Office not been sued out of existence?

Sued by whom and for what?


Microsoft.

For their branding.
 
Flowery Twats
2023-01-26 6:27:10 PM  
I use Windows at work and Linux (Mint MATE) at home. Not a lot of difference as far as I can tell. Yeah, Linux f's up everynniw and then, nad there's some learning involved in getting it upright again, but nothing I can't Google or work around.

Frankly, Linux today, doesn't suck any worse than Windows, and hasn't for a few years.

What I like about Linux, and what drives me nuts about Windows, is that I have control with Linux, and Microsoft controls Windows. Even when you "turn off" updates, MS still seems to be able to mess up your system, disable apps or change how they work. And, there's no going back. Linux gives me the option to keep things the way they are.

But that's me. Linux isn't for everyone, but I have yet to meet someone who uses Windows by choice rather than acceptance that there's no better option for them.
 
somedude210 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-26 6:27:14 PM  

Flowery Twats: moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.

That's one...:-)

Everyone I know, who could afford to, is running Apple gear. Daughter runs a Windows system for gaming, but Apple for everything else.


Honestly, Windows Phone was the best smartphone OS I've ever seen/used. It was sad to see them discontinue support for it. Android leaves a lot to be desired in comparison and Apple's OSes have never been my cup of tea.

If given the choice of Windows or whatever Apple is offering, I'll stick with windows. All my shiat works with it and I can tinker with it to my heart's content
 
Severaux
2023-01-26 6:35:24 PM  
Makes absolute sense that their revenue dropped last quarter because of layoffs that happened last week.

Total sense.
 
DeathByGeekSquad
2023-01-26 6:52:37 PM  
Fark Layoff Brigade is still grasping at straws it seems.
 
Zik-Zak
2023-01-26 7:14:51 PM  

mongbiohazard: In the end... I kinda do actually like Windows.


For gaming, I miss Windows (I have an old laptop running Win7, but it's on its last legs which is why I'm afraid to use it). Mainly because I have some old CD-ROM and DVD-ROM games that I would like to return to. Rise of Nations, SimCity 4, Civ3, WH40K: Dawn of War, and Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom, to name a few.

And although LibreOffice is just great beyond the price, there are some little things for me that made more of a difference than I thought it would. I'm not adept enough yet to get Impress to behave the way I like because I'm too used to PowerPoint, and Zotero (sometimes) does strange things when I'm putting citations in an *.odt file. Oh well - I got R and RStudio working in it, which is nice. Also, OpenTTD makes me smile. Also, I appreciate just how snappy Linux Mint MATE feels, especially compared to my office's work computer running Win10 (11?) with a LOT OF FARKING BLOAT.

Still: Linux Mint for work, Windows 7 for play.

/so anyway what about the article?
 
Dromaeosaur
2023-01-26 8:23:13 PM  

somedude210: Flowery Twats: moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.

That's one...:-)

Everyone I know, who could afford to, is running Apple gear. Daughter runs a Windows system for gaming, but Apple for everything else.

Honestly, Windows Phone was the best smartphone OS I've ever seen/used. It was sad to see them discontinue support for it. Android leaves a lot to be desired in comparison and Apple's OSes have never been my cup of tea.

If given the choice of Windows or whatever Apple is offering, I'll stick with windows. All my shiat works with it and I can tinker with it to my heart's content


I miss my Windows Phone.
 
Chemlight Battery
2023-01-26 8:23:48 PM  

Flowery Twats: Linux f's up everynniw and then, nad there's some learning involved


I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there might be some user error involved.
 
Dromaeosaur
2023-01-26 8:27:16 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Flowery Twats: Linux f's up everynniw and then, nad there's some learning involved

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there might be some user error involved.


If Linux hopes to ever compete, they need to account for folks who occasionally miss the home keys.
 
RyansPrivates
2023-01-26 8:28:08 PM  

NathanAllen: basscomm: NathanAllen: Unsung_Hero: Linux - if you're just checking email and browsing the web - is now past the point where anyone who is willing to put a small amount of effort into adapting to the differences can download and try it out.  And Libre Office does well enough as an MS Office substitute as well.

That's got to be 90% of home users, right?  And while I haven't tried it myself yet, my understanding is that Steam works on it to a high degree now too.

But people who aren't techy are just going to keep whatever came with the computer.  They don't see the price, and if they did... at time of purchase they don't want to worry about an OS install   As long as pretty much every assembled PC you buy comes with Windows pre-installed, Windows will be where the market is at.

How in the heck has Libre Office not been sued out of existence?

Sued by whom and for what?

Microsoft.

For their branding.


The word "Office" isn't something that MS can claim a trademark onf. "Microsoft Office", "MS Office", "Office 365"...sure, but someone calling a suite of productivity programs "offfice" isn't protected. Lotus had one back in the day.  Word Perfect has one currently, and there was a Wordperfect Office (e-mail) that lead to "Groupwise" from Novell.
 
somedude210 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-26 8:29:08 PM  

Dromaeosaur: somedude210: Flowery Twats: moothemagiccow: Flowery Twats: Microsoft needs to remember that nobody chooses to buy their OS. It's either the default or they are forced to buy it for compatibility, never a choice.

Hey Linux beard, do you think apple is some kind of niche, indie brand? Their laptops and desktops are in stock at every store. People aren't clueless, they know what they're buying.

People buy computers with Windows on purpose. I'm one of them.

That's one...:-)

Everyone I know, who could afford to, is running Apple gear. Daughter runs a Windows system for gaming, but Apple for everything else.

Honestly, Windows Phone was the best smartphone OS I've ever seen/used. It was sad to see them discontinue support for it. Android leaves a lot to be desired in comparison and Apple's OSes have never been my cup of tea.

If given the choice of Windows or whatever Apple is offering, I'll stick with windows. All my shiat works with it and I can tinker with it to my heart's content

I miss my Windows Phone.


Such a good phone OS. Shame the app store never took off for it
 
Baloo Uriza
2023-01-26 9:08:54 PM  

Flowery Twats: Baloo Uriza: Mikey1969: Yeah, totally "for kicks", that's why we didn't have other mass layoffs, just Microsoft. Not IBM, Spotify, Google, Goldman Sachs, Meta, Snapchat, Peloton, Specialized, etc.

Nope, just Microsoft. They're so MEAN!! How can they announce layoffs when absolutely nobody else is?

Is IBM still in business? What do they even do anymore?

Consulting.
If you can't be part of the solution, there's good money to be made prolonging the problem.


I could have sworn they sold that part of the business to NTT and HCL.
 
Baloo Uriza
2023-01-26 9:12:52 PM  

Flowery Twats: Baloo Uriza: born_yesterday: Microsoft office: $100 a year for the rest of my life seems a bit much.

LibreOffice has your back.  And is more compatible with older Microsoft Office and Works than current Microsoft Office.  And Microsoft Office can open and save OpenDocument Format.  So not really losing anything by switching.

I have been pleasantly surprised when I have opened some work documents in LibreOffice. And, yes, I am forced to use Win10 on my work laptop.


I don't even bother converting documents anymore.  Whatever created it is going to be the format for that file from then on out.  This has a tendency to be OpenDocument Format for the most part, since I've had four jobs that used Star/Open/LibreOffice primarily, and only two that used Microsoft Office, three if you count high school internships, since 1996.
 
Excelsior
2023-01-26 9:23:02 PM  
In other news, people can only spend their money once, and with rising inflation and stagnating wages "entertainment" spending like the xbox tends to be the first thing people cut from their budget.
 
Jim_Callahan
2023-01-26 10:51:18 PM  
Sooooo... nothing happened that might have temporarily increased the profitability of video games in the last couple of years, subby?  Nothing that might be tapering off and reducing demand more recently that might reduce the income of a megacorporation's gaming division?

Nothing whatsoever comes to mind?  No other forces that might impact what consumers are spending on entertainment media?

NathanAllen: Microsoft.

For their branding.



... LibreOffice's branding is a weird ugly "sheet of paper with a corner cut off" thing that infects their entire user interface like some sort of horrible graphic design zombie virus.

Wait, are you under the impression that MS owns the fundamental concept of an Office / Enterprise software package in general?  Because those have existed since long before Microsoft existed; for obvious reasons they were one of the first non-specialist software produced.  HP, the company that's the origin of basically all of Apple and Microsoft's "original" ideas in the 1980s/90s, had one before they largely got out of PC-type devices, for instance.
 
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