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(NBC Montana)   Western Montana residents will have to travel to Idaho to catch their deaths over a plate of unevenly cooked hashbrowns   (nbcmontana.com) divider line
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2023-01-26 3:37:27 PM  
Nah, the Western is still open.
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2023-01-26 4:45:49 PM  
is this what we're reduced to

restaurant closings from a place i'll never even stop to piss in
 
2023-01-26 4:47:51 PM  
Montana did that.
 
2023-01-26 4:50:43 PM  
Didn't know they had Waffle Houses up north.

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2023-01-26 4:50:55 PM  

moothemagiccow: is this what we're reduced to

restaurant closings from a place i'll never even stop to piss in



You won't now.
 
2023-01-26 4:51:30 PM  

moothemagiccow: is this what we're reduced to

restaurant closings from a place i'll never even stop to piss in


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2023-01-26 4:51:36 PM  
You know what line you never hear at Denny's?  "Look at that pretty waitress!"

/ducks and runs
 
2023-01-26 4:52:11 PM  
[googles minimum wage]

$9.95 per hour and there is no tipped minimum wage, so the servers are restaurants must be paid $9.95 an hour and then all the tips.
 
2023-01-26 4:52:44 PM  
That headline reminds me of a trip to Honkey Crate years ago.  I had a craving for their big ol' perfect pancakes.  I got 3 tiny things like I'd expect from McD's and they were cooked to three different levels of doneness.  Undercooked, properly cooked, and burnt.  I complained (which I rarely do because I don't want spit in my food) and the manager acted like he was doing me a favor by firing me an "extra" pancake.  It was undercooked on one side and burnt on the other.  FFS, how strung out do you have to be to not be able to cook pancakes?   That was the day I learned my city has a good Cracker Barrel and a bad Cracker Barrel.
 
2023-01-26 4:55:42 PM  
Subby you can't catch your death!

Everyone knows you wake up dead!
 
2023-01-26 4:56:26 PM  

jtown: That headline reminds me of a trip to Honkey Crate years ago...



Cracker, please. The preferred nomenclature is "Honky Bucket".
 
2023-01-26 4:56:32 PM  

BunchaRubes: You know what line you never hear at Denny's?  "Look at that pretty waitress!"

/ducks and runs


Ate breakfast once at Bob's Big Boy and our waitress had blue hair.

This was before the Simpsons was on tv.
 
2023-01-26 4:57:21 PM  
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2023-01-26 5:01:07 PM  

steklo: Didn't know they had Waffle Houses up north.

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The actual geographic oddity is Illinois. You'd think a state with bunch of interstates that stretches a good distance between Missouri and Indiana (both with a good sprinkling of WH restaurants) would have quite a few Waffle Houses all the way north, south, east, and west. Turns out there is only 2 in the entire state.

Maybe West Virginia is more odd, because the map shows a bunch outside but not in WV?

Seems like New Mexico should have more on the east-west corridor.
 
2023-01-26 5:01:58 PM  
"People don't want to work"

No. People are sick of being exploited.
 
2023-01-26 5:05:00 PM  

little big man: Nah, the Western is still open.
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A friend of mine is a Montana grad...will have to ask him about that place.
 
2023-01-26 5:05:31 PM  
"due to a staffing shortage."

We offered them slave wages, but nobody wanted to be a slave.
 
2023-01-26 5:06:18 PM  

steklo: Didn't know they had Waffle Houses up north.

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I wish we did...especially here in Washington.

/Was at a Denny's this past Sunday at 3am.
//It was a freak show.
///Like walking into the Mos Eisley cantina.
 
2023-01-26 5:10:52 PM  
Denny's is where we went when 4Bs was full.
 
2023-01-26 5:11:12 PM  
"The popular chain restaurant Red Robin located within Missoula's Southgate Mall closed in November due to a staffing shortage."

Pay them a living wage, dumbass.
 
2023-01-26 5:11:18 PM  
Closed due to staffing shortage.  Poor baby, no one wants to work for you anymore.  I bet you could collect a decent staff and management team if you paid more and/or were just a better person to work for.
 
2023-01-26 5:14:52 PM  
This kinda goes with my observation in the other Montana thread where I said (from talking to a recent ex-resident of Montana) that people in Montana hate outsiders and are openly hostile to them.

I asked her if they have some hideous secret to hide, like they're all in a Cthulu-type cult. She said it wouldn't surprise her.

I guess people don't want to move to a state full of assholes run by assholes so they can get underpaid by chain restaurants and abused by the customers.
 
2023-01-26 5:15:09 PM  

leeksfromchichis: "due to a staffing shortage."

We offered them slave wages, but nobody wanted to be a slave.


This. There are at least two other breakfast-type places within a mile of Denny's and they're always full and almost always have enough staff. Meanwhile, there was never anyone in Denny's and when you asked for a table, they'd tell you it was at least an hour wait for food.
 
2023-01-26 5:15:27 PM  
"The popular chain restaurant Red Robin located within Missoula's Southgate Mall closed in November due to a staffing shortage management's unwillingness to pay a competitive wage."

Fixed.
 
2023-01-26 5:18:57 PM  

Floki: "The popular chain restaurant Red Robin located within Missoula's Southgate Mall closed in November due to a staffing shortage."


I heard a rumor that Red Robin closed because someone ODed on meth in the back room, but I heard it maybe 4th hand, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.
 
2023-01-26 5:19:26 PM  
Maybe people are tired of living in Montana.
 
2023-01-26 5:20:33 PM  
Closed due to a staffing shortage.  Did you ask former employees why they left?  Have you tried to find out why people don't want to work for you? Then you can try to correct the problem or just close permanently.
 
2023-01-26 5:21:28 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Maybe people are tired of living in Montana.


I'd be more inclined to say it's because many people's rents increased by about 50% in the past year. We know several people who were caught completely off-guard and had to move away.
 
2023-01-26 5:21:51 PM  

moothemagiccow: is this what we're reduced to

restaurant closings from a place i'll never even stop to piss in


Which is the secret ingredient in the special sauce
 
2023-01-26 5:24:07 PM  
Maybe they all ran off and became dental floss tycoons.
 
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2023-01-26 5:24:26 PM  
Does Montana even have enough people to staff 3 business and still have some for customers?
 
2023-01-26 5:25:09 PM  

BunchaRubes: You know what line you never hear at Denny's?  "Look at that pretty waitress!"

/ducks and runs


Well, I always thought Steven was rather handsome:

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And yeah, the owners are probably complaining about how people just don't want to work anymore. Without realizing that people do, in fact, want to work. And they want to make money. They just don't want to work for you, because they can't actually make money based on the shiat wages you're paying them.
 
2023-01-26 5:27:23 PM  
If I'm in western Montana I'm a happy man because that means I'm close to Glacier National Park.

What a magnificent place it is.
 
2023-01-26 5:29:26 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Maybe people are tired of living in Montana.


Other parts of Montana, absolutely.  Missoula and Bozeman, nah, there's a dozen semi-retired/semi-remote techies from California or Seattle moving in every day and saying "3 beds, $700,000?  That's cheap!" and pricing out anyone who would work at Denny's.
 
2023-01-26 5:29:34 PM  
Perhaps this isn't as accurate anymore

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2023-01-26 5:31:03 PM  

Dadoo: I heard a rumor that Red Robin closed because someone ODed on meth in the back room


When does that close some place? My sister is a Walgreens manager. Some guy ODed on heroin in her bathroom. She didn't even have to remove the body - the paramedics showed up and carted him out for her (but they fake pumping air into his lungs was just for show, because he was in there for a while and was dead dead). They didn't even close down the front register or photo or pharmacy.
 
2023-01-26 5:33:04 PM  

gadian: Closed due to staffing shortage.  Poor baby, no one wants to work for you anymore.  I bet you could collect a decent staff and management team if you paid more and/or were just a better person to work for.


😆 you expect people to wait to make back their investment? That is nuts. People want monthly payments of 9& 1/4th percent.  Gezzz man.
 
2023-01-26 5:33:28 PM  

The_Sponge: steklo: Didn't know they had Waffle Houses up north.

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I wish we did...especially here in Washington.

/Was at a Denny's this past Sunday at 3am.
//It was a freak show.
///Like walking into the Mos Eisley cantina.


BTW....the Denny's was in Portland, and lived up to the "Keep Portland Weird" motto.
 
2023-01-26 5:34:26 PM  

Daedalus27: Perhaps this isn't as accurate anymore

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It is still accurate because Russia SUCKS.
 
2023-01-26 5:34:38 PM  

jmr61: If I'm in western Montana I'm a happy man because that means I'm close to Glacier National Park.

What a magnificent place it is.


Shhhhh. No it isn't. Nothing to see there, you'd be bored and annoyed. Well probably annoyed.

But Glacier is a bucket list place. Make the effort and you won't be disappointed. NOW, that ticketed entry program they run? The NPS can go fark itself in the ear with a stuffed squirrel. You don't limit access to public lands you pieces of shiat.
 
2023-01-26 5:35:55 PM  

Dadoo: Floki: "The popular chain restaurant Red Robin located within Missoula's Southgate Mall closed in November due to a staffing shortage."

I heard a rumor that Red Robin closed because someone ODed on meth in the back room, but I heard it maybe 4th hand, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.


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2023-01-26 5:36:53 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: This kinda goes with my observation in the other Montana thread where I said (from talking to a recent ex-resident of Montana) that people in Montana hate outsiders and are openly hostile to them.

I asked her if they have some hideous secret to hide, like they're all in a Cthulu-type cult. She said it wouldn't surprise her.

I guess people don't want to move to a state full of assholes run by assholes so they can get underpaid by chain restaurants and abused by the customers.


I went to a town outside of Billings for work a few times. After work, I went to a bar, and the people weren't outright hostile, but I stuck out like a sore thumb and I could tell they didn't really want me there.

They softened up a bit when it was clear that I was just passing through and wasn't some prick from Seattle who wanted to buy a vanity ranch or whatever.
 
2023-01-26 5:40:49 PM  
My local Dennys still has the O.G. cocktail lounge. Actually not a bad spot to get a drink if I'm being honest. Says more about the town then it does the Dennys.
 
2023-01-26 5:50:09 PM  

NINEv2: jmr61: If I'm in western Montana I'm a happy man because that means I'm close to Glacier National Park.

What a magnificent place it is.

Shhhhh. No it isn't. Nothing to see there, you'd be bored and annoyed. Well probably annoyed.

But Glacier is a bucket list place. Make the effort and you won't be disappointed. NOW, that ticketed entry program they run? The NPS can go fark itself in the ear with a stuffed squirrel. You don't limit access to public lands you pieces of shiat.



the water is a god-awful toilet water blue color, it's too cold, there are bears and vicious mountain goats, and if you go too far, you're in Canada, fark that!
 
2023-01-26 5:50:52 PM  

TheSubjunctive: Gyrfalcon: Maybe people are tired of living in Montana.

Other parts of Montana, absolutely.  Missoula and Bozeman, nah, there's a dozen semi-retired/semi-remote techies from California or Seattle moving in every day and saying "3 beds, $700,000?  That's cheap!" and pricing out anyone who would work at Denny's.


Yeah, Bozeman is ridiculous. The stupidity spilled over into Livingston too. Mores the pity.
 
2023-01-26 5:53:22 PM  
We're dealing with the "video game" generation now. They expect instant gratification for doing the bare minimum nothing.

And no, they do not want to work. They want the money.

Case in point: at the newspaper I work for, one of the (now-former) dock workers (where the bundles are stacked for the bundle-haulers to pick up), would sit at one of the tables and play video games on his phone, as the bundles would come out the chute. He'd write a couple things on the "officially unofficial" clipboard, then go right back to his video game, instead of stacking the bundles, and making up the "key bundles" as he was supposed to.

The bundle-haulers, and out-of-town express drivers, have a hard enough job taking the bundles to their respective drop sites before deadline. With our distribution of around 40K-plus papers, having one person fucking around ON THE DOCK means someone could get hurt, papers could potentially be late, we could potentially miss deadline, etc. Those of us who pick up at the dock aren't being paid to do his fucking job. We simply DO NOT HAVE THE TIME for some 18-20-year old fuckoff to finish his fucking Candy Crush Saga when he's got 200-300 or more 25-count bundles coming out the goddamn chute every 10 minutes...and *that's* on a slow night.
 
2023-01-26 6:03:31 PM  

kb7rky: We're dealing with the "video game" generation now. They expect instant gratification for doing the bare minimum nothing.

And no, they do not want to work. They want the money.


Huh.  Sounds like you've got just the one employee you take issue with.  Seems easy enough to solve.
 
2023-01-26 6:15:19 PM  

NINEv2: TheSubjunctive: Gyrfalcon: Maybe people are tired of living in Montana.
Other parts of Montana, absolutely.  Missoula and Bozeman, nah, there's a dozen semi-retired/semi-remote techies from California or Seattle moving in every day and saying "3 beds, $700,000?  That's cheap!" and pricing out anyone who would work at Denny's.
Yeah, Bozeman is ridiculous. The stupidity spilled over into Livingston too. Mores the pity.


The Subarus keep getting bigger and bigger. Then they put the racks on top..
LOOK AT MY THULE RACK.  I spend so much time outdoors, i keep skis, four hats, $1000 binoculars, a snowboard, a kayak, my bike, my cattle dog, hiking boots, climbing equipment, a sleeping bag, and bear spray in my car AT ALL TIMES.
And my guitar.  I can't play guitar at all, but now that I'm in Montana and away from all those city distractions, I hope to have a little country music career.  I'm pretty soulful.
 
2023-01-26 6:17:45 PM  

kb7rky: Case in point: at the newspaper I work for...


I think I might see part of your problem.
 
2023-01-26 6:45:28 PM  
Restaurant near me closed up recently due to staffing shortages...

And since I work for the same company I know for a fact they were only short-staffed because they only schedule the employees 25 hours a week. That's the max they can get, that way they can fill in up to 7 extra hours as needed weekly, and the company still doesn't have to pay for benefits. They had more than enough willing employees if they threw out that rule and let the staff be full time.

And nearly the whole industry works this way. At least around here.
 
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