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(NPR)   The US is at 3.96. That would be a great GPA, but it's a lousy GVD   (npr.org) divider line
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2023-01-24 9:17:17 PM  
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2023-01-24 9:19:00 PM  
Hey, we still beat Somalia:
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2023-01-24 9:20:11 PM  
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2023-01-24 9:20:53 PM  
Something something freedom is never free, and it probably won't happen to me, so people will bleed, for the tree of liberty
 
2023-01-24 9:22:20 PM  
Those are rookie numbers!
 
2023-01-24 9:22:31 PM  
WTF El Salvador?
Find a new hobby.
 
2023-01-24 9:23:12 PM  

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No government is safer than Republican government.

Next week, how Somalis achieved anarchist socialized medicine.
 
2023-01-24 9:23:33 PM  

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Okay, so we're doing great, ackshually.
 
2023-01-24 9:23:35 PM  
USA! USA! USA!
 
2023-01-24 9:24:50 PM  

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I imagine that list needs to be updated, because the 110,000 dead Russians in Ukraine last year should have put them in the top ten.  I mean, half the countries on that list are only on that list because they have ongoing wars in their country.
 
2023-01-24 9:25:54 PM  
My friend Becky did GVD once.
 
2023-01-24 9:26:07 PM  

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Better than Lesotho! USA! USA!
 
2023-01-24 9:27:03 PM  
Wild:
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With only one extreme outlier in each other continent (Philippines and Iraq), gun violence appears to be an America continent thing.

I guess gun availability is easy due to the USA producing and so freely trading them, combined with poverty and normal violence rates.

Every single country on the "highest rates worldwide" list is an American continent country:
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Really it kind of destroys the whole, "criminals will always get guns" thing, as the rest of the developed world makes it hard to get them, and so all the surrounding countries with high poverty and high violence just don't have a lot of gun deaths.
 
2023-01-24 9:28:48 PM  
Editor's note: This is the latest update of a story that NPR has run on several occasions after mass shooting events in the United States. It was last republished on May 24, 2022.

They may as well just republish this everyday.
 
2023-01-24 9:29:07 PM  
American exceptionalism at its most exceptional.
 
2023-01-24 9:30:25 PM  

dyhchong: Wild:
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With only one extreme outlier in each other continent (Philippines and Iraq), gun violence appears to be an America continent thing.

I guess gun availability is easy due to the USA producing and so freely trading them, combined with poverty and normal violence rates.

Every single country on the "highest rates worldwide" list is an American continent country:
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Really it kind of destroys the whole, "criminals will always get guns" thing, as the rest of the developed world makes it hard to get them, and so all the surrounding countries with high poverty and high violence just don't have a lot of gun deaths.


Most of the guns used in Latin American violence come from their freedom loving neighbors to the north.
 
2023-01-24 9:32:03 PM  
FTFA: "It is a little surprising that a country like ours should have this level of gun violence," Ali Mokdad, a professor of global health and epidemiology at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, told NPR. "If you compare us to other well-off countries, we really stand out."

REALLY?!  THAT SURPRISES YOU?! A country that glorifies and holds its military history in abject reverence and places the importance of uninhibited firearm ownership over the general welfare having such a high gun violence death score doesn't strike you as obvious?  What is it most of Europe and the well-off countries of east Asia have that the US doesn't?  This isn't a difficult logic problem to solve.
 
2023-01-24 9:32:09 PM  
/s
Gee, if only there was some difference between us and the countries that are WAY lower than us on this list. It sure is a mystery as to what that might be...
/s
 
2023-01-24 9:34:59 PM  

SumoJeb: WTF El Salvador?
Find a new hobby.


Looks like El Salvador could use some supernatural help. A savior, if you will.
 
2023-01-24 9:35:45 PM  

Gaythiest Elitist: SumoJeb: WTF El Salvador?
Find a new hobby.

Looks like El Salvador could use some supernatural help. A savior, if you will.


Was that not Bitcoin?

/I was sure it was going to be Bitcoin
 
2023-01-24 9:36:32 PM  

dyhchong: Wild:
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With only one extreme outlier in each other continent (Philippines and Iraq), gun violence appears to be an America continent thing.

I guess gun availability is easy due to the USA producing and so freely trading them, combined with poverty and normal violence rates.

Every single country on the "highest rates worldwide" list is an American continent country:
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Really it kind of destroys the whole, "criminals will always get guns" thing, as the rest of the developed world makes it hard to get them, and so all the surrounding countries with high poverty and high violence just don't have a lot of gun deaths.


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Bilston might want to rethink having Brazil in this poem.
 
2023-01-24 9:37:22 PM  
Surely those numbers are wrong, I've been assured that allowing good guys to own guns would solve this matter.
 
2023-01-24 9:38:50 PM  

dyhchong: Gaythiest Elitist: SumoJeb: WTF El Salvador?
Find a new hobby.

Looks like El Salvador could use some supernatural help. A savior, if you will.

Was that not Bitcoin?

/I was sure it was going to be Bitcoin


"HODL" and "Buy the dip" remarkably ineffective at stopping bullets.
 
2023-01-24 9:38:57 PM  
The US does not have a gun violence problem. It has a republican problem.
 
2023-01-24 9:39:47 PM  
My turn, I'll be that guy. Does this include suicide numbers?
 
2023-01-24 9:41:33 PM  

Subtonic: My turn, I'll be that guy. Does this include suicide numbers?


What guy? The guy who didn't read the article? Because it literally says whether it does or doesn't on every graph.
 
2023-01-24 9:43:40 PM  
I have heard several Republican politicians over the last few days tell me we don't have a gun problem so it can't possibly be that. /s
 
2023-01-24 9:44:15 PM  

Subtonic: My turn, I'll be that guy. Does this include suicide numbers?


You can help.
 
2023-01-24 9:46:17 PM  
I gave up hunting with guns so I sold my Bushmaster 30.06 and a couple of other rifles. I also sold off the one pistol I owned, a Walther (I liked James Bond.). The only one I have left in the US is a Mossberg shotgun for shooting skeet.

Guns should be heavily restricted. An inexpensive shotgun is good enough for home defense. Personally, I keep an aluminum bat around. Otherwise, in my opinion, if one wants to own a gun, they should be stored at the range. A militia hasn't been necessary since a standing military was organized. As for the government attempting to take your land, how many examples are there of rinky dink militias or cults coming out victorious against the military?
 
2023-01-24 9:47:33 PM  
At least we're not as bad as El Salvador, guys.

guys
 
2023-01-24 9:51:47 PM  

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fark's sake...

CRT being proven in real time.

Our country is a farking joke. We deserve the hell we will bring forth.

Giant Meteor, don't hit the planet. Just siphon off a shard or two to cleave this terrible nation of its foulest creatures.

I live in Nevada. We don't deserve existence.
 
2023-01-24 9:53:42 PM  

winedrinkingman: VisualiseThis: Hey, we still beat Somalia:
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I imagine that list needs to be updated, because the 110,000 dead Russians in Ukraine last year should have put them in the top ten.  I mean, half the countries on that list are only on that list because they have ongoing wars in their country.


"All charts exclude deaths in armed conflict and from accidents or self-harm. "

So no, none of the countries are only on the list because they have ongoing wars.
 
2023-01-24 9:54:42 PM  

jso2897: Subtonic: My turn, I'll be that guy. Does this include suicide numbers?

You can help.


Yep.  You're an asshole
 
2023-01-24 9:54:45 PM  

SiriusClown: VisualiseThis: Hey, we still beat Somalia:
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fark's sake...

CRT being proven in real time.

Our country is a farking joke. We deserve the hell we will bring forth.

Giant Meteor, don't hit the planet. Just siphon off a shard or two to cleave this terrible nation of its foulest creatures.

I live in Nevada. We don't deserve existence.


Then leave. If you're that horrified go. I've live in places I hated...and I moved.
 
2023-01-24 9:55:00 PM  
Could be a contributor to a lack of workers looking for jobs.
You have to know how to talk to a conservative.
 
2023-01-24 9:55:40 PM  
FTA: "It is a little surprising that a country like ours should have this level of gun violence," Ali Mokdad, a professor of global health and epidemiology at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation

Who the fark works in epidemiology and is this stupid? fire that motherfarker aned hire someone who had a single parent who took the bus. Fark off with that shiat.
 
2023-01-24 9:56:03 PM  
Let's not focus on the negative. What about all of the Vape/Smoke/CBD stores in every decaying strip mall, all of the people fighting for the unborn's right to someday visit those stores and our doctor to daredevil ratio.
 
2023-01-24 9:56:51 PM  
Too bad nothing can be done. Gun laws haven't stopped criminals so far, why would more? Come and take it. Shall not be infringed. Even take away suicides, gang violence, gun deaths and domestic violence.... there's really not a gun problem.
 
2023-01-24 9:57:13 PM  

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Wasn't Somalia on State's list of Avoid All Travel countries?
 
2023-01-24 9:57:53 PM  
Hey, it would only be a GVD of 0.07 if we only counted assault rifle deaths.
Fark has reiterated many times that only people killed by certain kinds of rifles matter, so if we take out the irrelevant 99.8% of people killed by handguns, we actually have the lowest gun violence numbers in the world!
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/Conversely, if you ban only assault rifles, again, and ignore handguns deaths, again, we still stay worse off than Somalia
 
2023-01-24 9:58:26 PM  

Noah_Tall: winedrinkingman: VisualiseThis: Hey, we still beat Somalia:
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I imagine that list needs to be updated, because the 110,000 dead Russians in Ukraine last year should have put them in the top ten.  I mean, half the countries on that list are only on that list because they have ongoing wars in their country.

"All charts exclude deaths in armed conflict and from accidents or self-harm. "

So no, none of the countries are only on the list because they have ongoing wars.


Wait so armed conflict is people shooting other people.
Self harm is shooting yourself
Accidents are the gun shooting itself.
If we exclude all three wouldn't the number have to be zero?
 
2023-01-24 9:59:50 PM  
The US has a shiathead problem.  A bunch of shiatheads who think they're bad ass when they use a gun to rob people, and a bunch oh shiatheads who think making it really hard to defend yourself against those shiatheads is a good idea.  Oh, and let's not forget the shiatheads who think the shiatheads who use guns to rob people are victims of society.
 
2023-01-24 10:00:34 PM  
Have Biden declare martial law and lock the nation down.  Then deploy the military to enforce the lockdown with lethal force.  Yes, it will make our number go up, temporarily.  Nuke the cities and states that declare themselves 2A sanctuary zones.  Start in a megacity and do a full confiscation of all guns, with full home searches.  Execute any gun hoarders that won't willingly turn over their guns.  When one city is done, seal it off and create a green zone of safety.  Nobody comes into the city without a full and invasive search.  Then expand to more cities.  Expanding the green zones. Continue the bombardment of the outlands if they don't give up the guns.  As the cities turn into safe zones, expand the home searches to the suburbs and outlands.

Gun problem solved.  Age of aquarius achieved.  I don't even need thanks.  Just knowing I helped create a utopia of light and love is thanks enough.
 
2023-01-24 10:01:41 PM  

Jeebus Saves: The US has a shiathead problem.  A bunch of shiatheads who think they're bad ass when they use a gun to rob people, and a bunch oh shiatheads who think making it really hard to defend yourself against those shiatheads is a good idea.  Oh, and let's not forget the shiatheads who think the shiatheads who use guns to rob people are victims of society.


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2023-01-24 10:05:23 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Jeebus Saves: The US has a shiathead problem.  A bunch of shiatheads who think they're bad ass when they use a gun to rob people, and a bunch oh shiatheads who think making it really hard to defend yourself against those shiatheads is a good idea.  Oh, and let's not forget the shiatheads who think the shiatheads who use guns to rob people are victims of society.

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Wont somebody think of the poor criminals!
 
2023-01-24 10:06:20 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Have Biden declare martial law and lock the nation down.  Then deploy the military to enforce the lockdown with lethal force.  Yes, it will make our number go up, temporarily.  Nuke the cities and states that declare themselves 2A sanctuary zones.  Start in a megacity and do a full confiscation of all guns, with full home searches.  Execute any gun hoarders that won't willingly turn over their guns.  When one city is done, seal it off and create a green zone of safety.  Nobody comes into the city without a full and invasive search.  Then expand to more cities.  Expanding the green zones. Continue the bombardment of the outlands if they don't give up the guns.  As the cities turn into safe zones, expand the home searches to the suburbs and outlands.

Gun problem solved.  Age of aquarius achieved.  I don't even need thanks.  Just knowing I helped create a utopia of light and love is thanks enough.


Party Foul. 15 yard penalty, Second down
Now, all gun control threads -eventually- wind up discussing violently ending democracy and any assent of the governed, installing an authoritarian regime and exterminating most of the populace for peace. BUT NOT ON THE FIRST PAGE.
Wait at least a few pages, and until we go through reeducation camps and mass executions before you get to nukes and genocide for nonviolence.
There is an order this is done in that must be respected.
/Now go sit in the corner and think about what you have done.
 
2023-01-24 10:08:06 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Have Biden declare martial law and lock the nation down.  Then deploy the military to enforce the lockdown with lethal force.  Yes, it will make our number go up, temporarily.  Nuke the cities and states that declare themselves 2A sanctuary zones.  Start in a megacity and do a full confiscation of all guns, with full home searches.  Execute any gun hoarders that won't willingly turn over their guns.  When one city is done, seal it off and create a green zone of safety.  Nobody comes into the city without a full and invasive search.  Then expand to more cities.  Expanding the green zones. Continue the bombardment of the outlands if they don't give up the guns.  As the cities turn into safe zones, expand the home searches to the suburbs and outlands.

Gun problem solved.  Age of aquarius achieved.  I don't even need thanks.  Just knowing I helped create a utopia of light and love is thanks enough.


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2023-01-24 10:08:15 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Have Biden declare martial law and lock the nation down.  Then deploy the military to enforce the lockdown with lethal force.  Yes, it will make our number go up, temporarily.  Nuke the cities and states that declare themselves 2A sanctuary zones.  Start in a megacity and do a full confiscation of all guns, with full home searches.  Execute any gun hoarders that won't willingly turn over their guns.  When one city is done, seal it off and create a green zone of safety.  Nobody comes into the city without a full and invasive search.  Then expand to more cities.  Expanding the green zones. Continue the bombardment of the outlands if they don't give up the guns.  As the cities turn into safe zones, expand the home searches to the suburbs and outlands.

Gun problem solved.  Age of aquarius achieved.  I don't even need thanks.  Just knowing I helped create a utopia of light and love is thanks enough.


Ok Mao.  Thanks for your input. Maybe you can call your plan 'Make America White, Suburban & Liberal'.
 
2023-01-24 10:08:16 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Red Shirt Blues: Jeebus Saves: The US has a shiathead problem.  A bunch of shiatheads who think they're bad ass when they use a gun to rob people, and a bunch oh shiatheads who think making it really hard to defend yourself against those shiatheads is a good idea.  Oh, and let's not forget the shiatheads who think the shiatheads who use guns to rob people are victims of society.

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Wont somebody think of the poor criminals!


It was more a play on your choice of nouns.
 
2023-01-24 10:08:20 PM  

Jeebus Saves: The US has a shiathead problem.  A bunch of shiatheads who think they're bad ass when they use a gun to rob people, and a bunch oh shiatheads who think making it really hard to defend yourself against those shiatheads is a good idea.  Oh, and let's not forget the shiatheads who think the shiatheads who use guns to rob people are victims of society.


That's true. shiatheads don't exist in any other country in the world.
 
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