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(6ABC Philadelphia)   A Tractor-trailer passenger who died 35 years ago has finally been identified. Kids, call your folks tonight and let them know you're OK   (6abc.com) divider line
    More: Sad, DNA, Semi-trailer truck, Truck, Pennsylvania Turnpike, Linda Jean McClure of Indiana, Pennsylvania State Police, state police, forensic genetic genealogy DNA testing  
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2023-01-24 4:39:39 PM  
Tell them Large Marge sent you.
 
2023-01-24 4:41:58 PM  
McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

Hmmmmmm...
 
2023-01-24 5:33:30 PM  
State police said McClure's brother submitted a DNA sample for comparison and it confirmed she was the victim of the 1987 crash.

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2023-01-24 5:35:34 PM  

cretinbob: Tell them Large Marge sent you.


It was the worst accident I ever seen.
 
2023-01-24 5:53:26 PM  

Mentat: cretinbob: Tell them Large Marge sent you.

It was the worst accident I ever seen.


When they pulled the tractor-trailer passenger's body from the twisted, burning wreck...
 
2023-01-24 5:53:58 PM  
RIP
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2023-01-24 5:57:20 PM  
McClure's brother submitted a DNA sample

brother: welp, here you go (hands over sample), there's plenty more where that came from.

scientist:  get out.
 
2023-01-24 5:57:37 PM  
There have been a lot of John/Jane Does identified via DNA over the last year or so.  Some of the more famous have been Somerton Man (likely Carl "Charles" Webb, but not certain), The Boy In the Box (Joseph Augustus Zarelli), Opelika Jane Doe (Amore Wiggins) and The Lady of the Dunes (Ruth Marie Terry).
 
2023-01-24 6:03:14 PM  
So many unanswered questions. Maybe she ran away from home and decided to hitchhike with this guy after meeting him at a truck stop. I guess a darker possibility is that she was kidnapped and being held against her will.  And the accident killed them both.
 
2023-01-24 6:03:14 PM  
Sister of Troy, who you may remember
 
2023-01-24 6:05:58 PM  

GardenWeasel: McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

Hmmmmmm...


Sounds like maybe she was hooking and the family had given up on her. There aren't many scenarios where you get a Jane Doe in the passenger seat of a semi that don't involve something shady going on.
 
2023-01-24 6:06:50 PM  

GardenWeasel: McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

Hmmmmmm...


She would have been in her early twenties.  It is possible she had a relationship with the trucker, but if they were not married, and he was not supposed to have a passenger, and if she was estranged from her family it would go unnoticed.

Then again, it is also likely she was a young woman who had been disowned by idiot parents, for not living up to their strict morals, and had been forced to survive by riding around with strange men and doing certain favors for them for money.  Which is what happens to your daughter when you kick her out because you are upset about how she dresses, she more often than not turns out the thing that you thought your tough love parenting was gonna prevent.
 
2023-01-24 6:06:52 PM  

Mentat: cretinbob: Tell them Large Marge sent you.

It was the worst accident I ever seen.


It made a sound, like a garbage truck dropped off the Empire State building.
 
2023-01-24 6:09:27 PM  

noneyourbase: So many unanswered questions. Maybe she ran away from home and decided to hitchhike with this guy after meeting him at a truck stop. I guess a darker possibility is that she was kidnapped and being held against her will.  And the accident killed them both.


 with nothing reported her parents had already lost her long before and didn't think they'd ever see her again.
 
2023-01-24 6:13:54 PM  
Noteworthy that enough people have used these 'genealogy' services that the police are almost guaranteed to be able to trace any DNA sample.  Quite disturbing, but almost unremarked.
 
2023-01-24 6:14:52 PM  

geekbikerskum: There have been a lot of John/Jane Does identified via DNA over the last year or so.  Some of the more famous have been Somerton Man (likely Carl "Charles" Webb, but not certain), The Boy In the Box (Joseph Augustus Zarelli), Opelika Jane Doe (Amore Wiggins) and The Lady of the Dunes (Ruth Marie Terry).


Farking science, taking all the mystery out of life.
 
2023-01-24 6:16:58 PM  

winedrinkingman: likely she was a young woman who had been disowned by idiot parents, for not living up to their strict morals


Could be some religious BS she didn't want to join at home and her family easily cut her out of their life.
 
2023-01-24 6:19:21 PM  
> "We hope that this revelation provides long overdue comfort to Ms. McClure's family."

surely, right?

> Police contacted her family. They told investigators they last communicated with McClure in the late 1980s. McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

.... or maybe not.
 
2023-01-24 6:20:03 PM  
State police said authorities were able to immediately identify the truck driver as a California man,


that's it?  any criminal stuff?
 
2023-01-24 6:22:45 PM  

geekbikerskum: There have been a lot of John/Jane Does identified via DNA over the last year or so.  Some of the more famous have been Somerton Man (likely Carl "Charles" Webb, but not certain), The Boy In the Box (Joseph Augustus Zarelli), Opelika Jane Doe (Amore Wiggins) and The Lady of the Dunes (Ruth Marie Terry).


There have, but this "forensic genetic genealogy" seems like it has a whole bucket of trouble potential behind it.
 
2023-01-24 6:23:54 PM  

mrmopar5287: winedrinkingman: likely she was a young woman who had been disowned by idiot parents, for not living up to their strict morals

Could be some religious BS she didn't want to join at home and her family easily cut her out of their life.


Or because of her own choices, despite the parents best efforts.
 
2023-01-24 6:27:21 PM  
That answers one question, and creates a bunch more sad questions.
 
2023-01-24 6:29:42 PM  

mrmopar5287: winedrinkingman: likely she was a young woman who had been disowned by idiot parents, for not living up to their strict morals

Could be some religious BS she didn't want to join at home and her family easily cut her out of their life.


That is the most common scenario with run away girls, that and when they run away from abuse, and the parents don't report, because they don't want the abuse being exposed by a police investigation.  Often these go together, because religion, and the shame that it teaches, are powerful tools for abusers to control their victims and keep them from reporting.  

Having talked to abusers, I don't think most of them even think of it as manipulation.  They think it is them turning to the Lord to make them better parents, God totally understands when they occasionally mess up and do something terrible, but that is really the daughter's fault, in their minds, because she was the one who was tempting them, or some other nonsense variation.
 
2023-01-24 6:35:15 PM  

mrmopar5287: Could be some religious BS she didn't want to join at home and her family easily cut her out of their life.


I suspect they mentally cut her out long before she left home.  I think it's telling that the only photograph the State Police had of her to give to the news media was from when she was 13.  Who doesn't take a bunch of photos of their kid during their high school years?
 
2023-01-24 6:37:00 PM  

hlehmann: Mentat: cretinbob: Tell them Large Marge sent you.

It was the worst accident I ever seen.

It made a sound, like a garbage truck dropped off the Empire State building.


And when they pulled the driver's body from the twisted, burning wreck. It looked like this...
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2023-01-24 6:37:55 PM  

mrmopar5287: winedrinkingman: likely she was a young woman who had been disowned by idiot parents, for not living up to their strict morals

Could be some religious BS she didn't want to join at home and her family easily cut her out of their life.


Is there an echo in here??
 
2023-01-24 6:42:22 PM  
How badly do you have to be mistreating/abusing your kid not to report them missing at 13.
 
2023-01-24 6:45:07 PM  
She was around 25 when it happened. Could have been that she wasn't in contact with her biological family when she died, for one reason or another. Not too surprising given that she was apparently traveling around with truckers and/or hitchhiking. Her family could have figured she'd started a new life elsewhere, and wasn't interested in contacting them, so they didn't have any reason to report her missing.
 
2023-01-24 6:48:51 PM  

Inertiaman: How badly do you have to be mistreating/abusing your kid not to report them missing at 13.

Along with their findings, state police provided one photo of Linda McClure from a 1975 yearbook, when she was approximately 13 years old.


She was 13 in 1975. In 1987 she would have been around 25.
 
2023-01-24 7:02:48 PM  

Inertiaman: How badly do you have to be mistreating/abusing your kid not to report them missing at 13.


Some people just run away. People weren't connected to machines back then either, they were independent.
 
2023-01-24 7:04:23 PM  
Way of the Road...
Way of the Road, Bubs....
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2023-01-24 7:07:45 PM  

GardenWeasel: McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

Hmmmmmm...


Looks like they did not give AF.
 
2023-01-24 7:16:47 PM  

jsmilky: State police said authorities were able to immediately identify the truck driver as a California man,

that's it?  any criminal stuff?


Aw, it's not like every California Trucker's slamming a severed breast on the watch commander's desk...

https://greensboro.com/truckers-story-is-break-in-unsolved-murders-the-california-man-who-handed-over-a-severed/article_e83b0bc1-0383-508f-877c-5e88953bf5a0.html
 
2023-01-24 7:32:42 PM  
The woman has been identified as Linda Jean McClure of Indiana, Pennsylvania.

Split the difference and bury her in Ohio.
 
2023-01-24 7:41:06 PM  
Pennsylvania Turnpike CEO Mark Compton. "We hope that this revelation provides long overdue comfort to Ms. McClure's family."

I don't expect they got much comfort from Aunty Linda going from "I hope she's happy in her life out there" to "died in a fireball in '87".
 
2023-01-24 7:45:19 PM  
Phantom 309
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2023-01-24 7:46:28 PM  
My family would actually report me missing but okay.
 
2023-01-24 7:50:33 PM  

FlyingJ: jsmilky: State police said authorities were able to immediately identify the truck driver as a California man,

that's it?  any criminal stuff?

Aw, it's not like every California Trucker's slamming a severed breast on the watch commander's desk...

https://greensboro.com/truckers-story-is-break-in-unsolved-murders-the-california-man-who-handed-over-a-severed/article_e83b0bc1-0383-508f-877c-5e88953bf5a0.html


Name checks out.
 
2023-01-24 8:45:11 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: The woman has been identified as Linda Jean McClure of Indiana, Pennsylvania.

Split the difference and bury her in Ohio.


The woman was already burned alive. Now you want to condemn her eternal soul to Hell?
 
2023-01-24 9:22:04 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: The woman has been identified as Linda Jean McClure of Indiana, Pennsylvania.

Split the difference and bury her in Ohio.


That's where I went to college!

The name of the town is indeed extremely annoying because it confuses everyone.
 
2023-01-24 9:33:06 PM  

GardenWeasel: McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

Hmmmmmm...


Great family there ...
 
2023-01-24 9:43:28 PM  
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2023-01-24 9:48:22 PM  
"He called and said he was okay and that was the last we ever heard from him."

Perfect, subby, solves everything.

/My CIA-wannabe father would have air tagged every goddam thing he could have.  The invasion of privacy stories I can tell horrify people, thank dog I was an adult before the internet was a thing.
 
2023-01-24 10:20:38 PM  

thealgorerhythm: GardenWeasel: McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

Hmmmmmm...

Great family there ...


They said they had talked to her in the late 80s, and she died in late 87 at 26 years old.  Could have been a shiatty family, could have been they tried everything for years and finally let her go. I've seen both situations.
 
2023-01-24 10:33:37 PM  

gameshowhost: My family would actually report me missing but okay.


There family may have. There was no centralized system then, no computers, no internet. People who went missing are why those kinds of systems were built when the capability became available. The world then is not the way it is now, and the way it is now is not how it will be in the future.
 
2023-01-24 10:34:05 PM  
that's if she had family, Parents both could have been dead
 
2023-01-24 10:49:38 PM  

austerity101: Madman drummers bummers: The woman has been identified as Linda Jean McClure of Indiana, Pennsylvania.

Split the difference and bury her in Ohio.

That's where I went to college!

The name of the town is indeed extremely annoying because it confuses everyone.


That's what, an hour and a quarter, hour and a half from California?  Couple hours from Edinboro, in the other direction?  Fortunately, IUP (not to be confused with IUPUI) didn't get sucked into "PennWest" along with CUP and EUP.

/"PennWest California" isn't any clearer geographically than "California University of Pennsylvania" was, really.
 
2023-01-25 12:01:16 AM  

Inertiaman: How badly do you have to be mistreating/abusing your kid not to report them missing at 13.


You didn't read the article, did you?


GardenWeasel: McClure was never reported missing to law enforcement, according to state police.

Hmmmmmm...


I don't want to disrespect the dead or anything, but let me spell it out for you. She was probably a drug addict and a hooker who frequented truck stops...ie, a "lot lizard" and they had likely kicked her out because of the difficulties of living with someone who constantly wants to steal everything you own and pawn it.

It's pretty common with people like this where you lose contact and everyone is kind of somewhat relieved to be free of them.

It sucks that she died in such a horrible way, but OTOH she was already headed down a spiral long before that. The driver was probably intoxicated or on drugs which is why the accident happened. Dying young likely saved her from a lifetime of pain.
 
2023-01-25 12:01:43 AM  

ekdikeo4: geekbikerskum: There have been a lot of John/Jane Does identified via DNA over the last year or so.  Some of the more famous have been Somerton Man (likely Carl "Charles" Webb, but not certain), The Boy In the Box (Joseph Augustus Zarelli), Opelika Jane Doe (Amore Wiggins) and The Lady of the Dunes (Ruth Marie Terry).

There have, but this "forensic genetic genealogy" seems like it has a whole bucket of trouble potential behind it.


I'm not 100% sure what you mean by forensic genetic genealogy, but Im uncomfortable with a lot of the DNA stuff happens these days.

if you haven't got symptoms, or you're not in a high risk group, or it's not part of some national screening programme... you don't need any tests.  even if there's nothing wrong with you, there will always be something that's out of range, and then what you gonna do?

any results/feedback will also be oversimplified, and the average person has no understanding of genetics at all.   it's rare that a physiological trait is controlled by a single gene, it's usually suite[s] of genes, interacting in complex ways, and interacting with environmental factors.

friend of mine had genetic testing done re weight loss (more money than sense), and the advice she was given, or how she's interpreted results, is so utterly flawed I can't bear to hear about it.
 
2023-01-25 12:02:42 AM  
A whole lot of people in this thread gotta lay off the true crime. She was a passenger in the truck: maybe dating, maybe a working girl, maybe a hitchhiker. Not everything has to be a creepy fantasy of crime.
 
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