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(WRIC Richmond)   Nuke plant to replace emergency sirens with mobile alerts. So if you don't have a mobile phone, but screaming people with melting flesh are fleeing past you, just ask them if anything's wrong   (wric.com) divider line
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2023-01-24 4:24:39 PM  
If you can hear the siren, it's too late anyhow.


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2023-01-24 4:28:06 PM  
"Important message from your local nuclear power plant

It's too late to update your wills.

Thank you.

Local Nuclear Power Plant Press Office"
 
2023-01-24 4:35:20 PM  
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2023-01-24 5:26:31 PM  
That's pretty how it is across country for all "Sirens"
It's not the nuke plants doing this....they'll still have Klaxons on property.

But just like Tornado, "Weather Events".... the entire country is moving away from Klaxon's on poles.

About 9 years ago they put a Klaxon on a pole for emergency alerts eminent domain area by our property, it's like 20 feet past the 'road way' shoulder.
Then about 3 years ago...they stopped all EM alerts with sirens. All Text, Or Weather Alert Radios. (they'd supply with a Weather Alert Radio for free)
Since then, They haven't tested, turned it out, removed it...it's an eye sore.
I thought about chopping the pole and harvesting the solar panels and batteries....but that would probably be a Very Bad Idea.
 
2023-01-24 5:41:07 PM  

coffeetime: If you can hear the siren, it's too late anyhow.


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2023-01-24 5:42:47 PM  
Well, I think they should probably do both. Some people may have alerts turned off on their phone, or their phone is off. Or they just don't have a mobile phone. An alert would be nice to let people know it's just a test, because you can actually tell people if it's a real emergency or a test, but sirens should still be in place.

Or they should just always test them at the exact same time every time they do it. Where I live, there are tornado sirens, and they test them every week, at noon on Saturday. So when it goes off, you know that it's a test, and you get used to it. Although a few years ago I was talking to a woman at work who had moved to the area from a non-tornado prone area, and she said it freaked her out the first time she heard it.

And that's good, a tornado siren should freak you out, especially if it goes off outside of the designated time.
 
2023-01-24 5:43:00 PM  

optikeye: That's pretty how it is across country for all "Sirens"
It's not the nuke plants doing this....they'll still have Klaxons on property.

But just like Tornado, "Weather Events".... the entire country is moving away from Klaxon's on poles.

About 9 years ago they put a Klaxon on a pole for emergency alerts eminent domain area by our property, it's like 20 feet past the 'road way' shoulder.
Then about 3 years ago...they stopped all EM alerts with sirens. All Text, Or Weather Alert Radios. (they'd supply with a Weather Alert Radio for free)
Since then, They haven't tested, turned it out, removed it...it's an eye sore.
I thought about chopping the pole and harvesting the solar panels and batteries....but that would probably be a Very Bad Idea.


Hence... Space Forceeeee!

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Screw all you nerds with your pocket computers talking to your grandparents on the spacebookgrams.
 
2023-01-24 5:43:03 PM  
There are probably more deaf people than there are people without mobile phones.
 
2023-01-24 5:44:46 PM  
Well its a good thing that electronic devices never malfunction when exposed to ionizing radiation sources.
 
2023-01-24 5:47:14 PM  
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2023-01-24 5:47:47 PM  

Vern: Well, I think they should probably do both. Some people may have alerts turned off on their phone, or their phone is off. Or they just don't have a mobile phone. An alert would be nice to let people know it's just a test, because you can actually tell people if it's a real emergency or a test, but sirens should still be in place.

Or they should just always test them at the exact same time every time they do it. Where I live, there are tornado sirens, and they test them every week, at noon on Saturday. So when it goes off, you know that it's a test, and you get used to it. Although a few years ago I was talking to a woman at work who had moved to the area from a non-tornado prone area, and she said it freaked her out the first time she heard it.

And that's good, a tornado siren should freak you out, especially if it goes off outside of the designated time.


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They named a beer after it here.

Honestly, I get more concerned when they don't test.
 
2023-01-24 5:48:18 PM  
How do we differentiate it from the twice daily mass shooting alerts?
 
2023-01-24 5:48:53 PM  
*people in a panic, skin melting and steaming, as they're running past you*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

"Excuse me...is there a problem?"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

"Is it bad?"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

*points to growing mushroom cloud in the distance*

"Is that what's wrong?"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

"Huh...must be something wrong at the nuclear plant, then. Okay, thanks!"

*ded*
 
2023-01-24 5:50:18 PM  
So forgetting to charge your phone is now a capital offense?
 
2023-01-24 5:51:51 PM  
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2023-01-24 5:52:06 PM  
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2023-01-24 5:57:57 PM  
Silly subby, it's not melting flesh to be concerned about, it's about excreting your intestines as they slough off internally.
 
2023-01-24 6:03:34 PM  
This was sent in error a year or two ago, not quite the Hawaii missile attack error but still caused some butt clenching.

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2023-01-24 6:06:25 PM  
Considering that America's most "dangerous" nuclear accident released little enough radiation to be statistical noise to background, I suspect this is more than sufficient warning. Maybe just code it with banana equivalent doses so the screaming fear mongers are stuck saying "we're all effectively eating a dozen extra bananas this year" and therefore look as ridiculous as they actually are.
 
2023-01-24 6:11:35 PM  

thealgorerhythm: How do we differentiate it from the twice daily mass shooting alerts?


Instead of vibrating your battery melts through the phone and burns you
 
2023-01-24 6:22:45 PM  

I'm Mr. Meeseeks!: thealgorerhythm: How do we differentiate it from the twice daily mass shooting alerts?

Instead of vibrating your battery melts through the phone and burns you


If that doesn't get your attention, nothing will.
 
2023-01-24 6:26:03 PM  
And if that fails...

BLACKWATCH PLAID.
 
2023-01-24 6:28:19 PM  

Boojum2k: Considering that America's most "dangerous" nuclear accident released little enough radiation to be statistical noise to background, I suspect this is more than sufficient warning. Maybe just code it with banana equivalent doses so the screaming fear mongers are stuck saying "we're all effectively eating a dozen extra bananas this year" and therefore look as ridiculous as they actually are.


SL-1 killed 3 people.  One of them was even pinned to the ceiling with a control rod.  According to one of my Nuke E professors there was some speculation that it was a murder suicide as there was some evidence of infidelity and the guy that got pinned to the ceiling pulled the control rod out way further than he was supposed to.

It's the only time an American reactor, that wasn't a bomb, has gone prompt critical.
 
2023-01-24 6:29:59 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Well its a good thing that electronic devices never malfunction when exposed to ionizing radiation sources.


If there's that much airborne radiation, you'll also notice the metallic taste on your tongue.

Also probably the massive explosion from the direction of the plant and all that.
 
2023-01-24 6:39:03 PM  
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2023-01-24 6:51:37 PM  

Vern: Well, I think they should probably do both. Some people may have alerts turned off on their phone, or their phone is off. Or they just don't have a mobile phone. An alert would be nice to let people know it's just a test, because you can actually tell people if it's a real emergency or a test, but sirens should still be in place.

Or they should just always test them at the exact same time every time they do it. Where I live, there are tornado sirens, and they test them every week, at noon on Saturday. So when it goes off, you know that it's a test, and you get used to it. Although a few years ago I was talking to a woman at work who had moved to the area from a non-tornado prone area, and she said it freaked her out the first time she heard it.

And that's good, a tornado siren should freak you out, especially if it goes off outside of the designated time.


They test ours every first Saturday of the month at 1pm, I always freak the kids out by asking them, "what would we do if a tornado happened right now!" lol
 
2023-01-24 6:57:40 PM  

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2023-01-24 7:09:07 PM  

electricjebus: Boojum2k: Considering that America's most "dangerous" nuclear accident released little enough radiation to be statistical noise to background, I suspect this is more than sufficient warning. Maybe just code it with banana equivalent doses so the screaming fear mongers are stuck saying "we're all effectively eating a dozen extra bananas this year" and therefore look as ridiculous as they actually are.

SL-1 killed 3 people.  One of them was even pinned to the ceiling with a control rod.  According to one of my Nuke E professors there was some speculation that it was a murder suicide as there was some evidence of infidelity and the guy that got pinned to the ceiling pulled the control rod out way further than he was supposed to.

It's the only time an American reactor, that wasn't a bomb, has gone prompt critical.


Unintentionally prompt supercritical.

There are many research reactors that can go prompt supercritical safely.

The SL-1 love triangle was popularized in the 80s and there could be some truth to it, but the bigger is down to how the fuel was made and tested. The cladding bonding of the fuel was very shoddy and would warp and swell and even break off and clog channels.

The control rods got stuck on more than one occasion and were documented doing so. It's easy to see that a high worth rod got stuck and the operator went in to loosen it and pulled out more than a dollars worth and that's all she wrote.
 
2023-01-24 7:22:17 PM  
I live about 25 miles from a nuke plant.  Too far to hear the sirens but well within the GTFO zone.
 
2023-01-24 7:23:04 PM  

electricjebus: Boojum2k: Considering that America's most "dangerous" nuclear accident released little enough radiation to be statistical noise to background, I suspect this is more than sufficient warning. Maybe just code it with banana equivalent doses so the screaming fear mongers are stuck saying "we're all effectively eating a dozen extra bananas this year" and therefore look as ridiculous as they actually are.

SL-1 killed 3 people.  One of them was even pinned to the ceiling with a control rod.  According to one of my Nuke E professors there was some speculation that it was a murder suicide as there was some evidence of infidelity and the guy that got pinned to the ceiling pulled the control rod out way further than he was supposed to.

It's the only time an American reactor, that wasn't a bomb, has gone prompt critical.


The SL-1 story was a part of my training while training at the Naval Reactor Facility in the Idaho National Laboratory.
 
2023-01-24 7:26:07 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: I live about 25 miles from a nuke plant.  Too far to hear the sirens but well within the GTFO zone.


Do the prevailing winds blow any potential badness away from you, or toward you?
 
2023-01-24 7:29:22 PM  

Boojum2k: Considering that America's most "dangerous" nuclear accident released little enough radiation to be statistical noise to background, I suspect this is more than sufficient warning. Maybe just code it with banana equivalent doses so the screaming fear mongers are stuck saying "we're all effectively eating a dozen extra bananas this year" and therefore look as ridiculous as they actually are.


You're right.
There should just be a cell phone alert put out to all nuclear power investors that their billions of dollars are about to disappear because Homer threw the wrong switch, replaced by billions in liability costs for the clean-up.
 
2023-01-24 7:37:31 PM  

thealgorerhythm: How do we differentiate it from the twice daily mass shooting alerts?


Your power doesn't go out right before a mass shooting alert.

/ offer only valid if you get your power from North Anna
 
2023-01-24 7:39:57 PM  
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2023-01-24 7:49:37 PM  

I'm Mr. Meeseeks!: Unintentionally prompt supercritical.

There are many research reactors that can go prompt supercritical safely.

The SL-1 love triangle was popularized in the 80s and there could be some truth to it, but the bigger is down to how the fuel was made and tested. The cladding bonding of the fuel was very shoddy and would warp and swell and even break off and clog channels.

The control rods got stuck on more than one occasion and were documented doing so. It's easy to see that a high worth rod got stuck and the operator went in to loosen it and pulled out more than a dollars worth and that's all she wrote.


Yeah, the early designs were sloppy to say the least.  Which is pretty much true of any new technology.
 
2023-01-24 7:54:09 PM  

electricjebus: I'm Mr. Meeseeks!: Unintentionally prompt supercritical.

There are many research reactors that can go prompt supercritical safely.

The SL-1 love triangle was popularized in the 80s and there could be some truth to it, but the bigger is down to how the fuel was made and tested. The cladding bonding of the fuel was very shoddy and would warp and swell and even break off and clog channels.

The control rods got stuck on more than one occasion and were documented doing so. It's easy to see that a high worth rod got stuck and the operator went in to loosen it and pulled out more than a dollars worth and that's all she wrote.

Yeah, the early designs were sloppy to say the least.  Which is pretty much true of any new technology.


It didnt help that the contractor building the reactor changed during construction and operations were handed over to less experienced crews for training before the accident.
 
2023-01-24 8:03:12 PM  

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2023-01-24 8:10:30 PM  
I like how they put unlikely in scare quotes.   Because really we need to be very afraid of nuclear energy so that we keep slowly killing ourselves with coal.
 
2023-01-24 8:25:00 PM  
Awesome tag line.
 
2023-01-24 8:27:50 PM  
That's better.
Those sirens would have been horrible noise pollution.
And they can send out the alarms in phases so'z there isn't a panic.
Group A is first, then everyone else.
 
2023-01-24 8:31:17 PM  

Boojum2k: Considering that America's most "dangerous" nuclear accident released little enough radiation to be statistical noise to background, I suspect this is more than sufficient warning. Maybe just code it with banana equivalent doses so the screaming fear mongers are stuck saying "we're all effectively eating a dozen extra bananas this year" and therefore look as ridiculous as they actually are.


Baneberry would like a word
 
2023-01-24 8:35:30 PM  

darthaegis: That's better.
Those sirens would have been horrible noise pollution.
And they can send out the alarms in phases so'z there isn't a panic.
Group A is first, then everyone else.


A: rich people
B: Android phones
C: iPhones
 
2023-01-24 8:43:04 PM  

I'm Mr. Meeseeks!: Silly subby, it's not melting flesh to be concerned about, it's about excreting your intestines as they slough off internally.


B-b-b-but ivermectin?
 
2023-01-24 10:06:28 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: darthaegis: That's better.
Those sirens would have been horrible noise pollution.
And they can send out the alarms in phases so'z there isn't a panic.
Group A is first, then everyone else.

A: rich people
B: Android phones
C: iPhones


As an Android user I'm ok with this.
 
2023-01-24 10:25:05 PM  
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2023-01-25 12:28:36 AM  
Or they could just do like Windscale and have the warning always on. When it goes quiet, you should worry.

Also, always amazes me how few people know about it.

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2023-01-25 3:52:09 AM  
As someone who lives within the kill radius of a nuclear plant, I can tell you that the siren is there so that you can hear it above everything else, even in the middle of a dead sleep, even in the middle of a thunderstorm.  If you turn off your phone, you're dead.  If you forget to charge your battery, you're dead.  If the 5g network has lag that day, you're dead.  If you live out in a cell phone dead zone, you're dead.

The sirens are there for a huge number of reasons, first and foremost being A LOUD PHYSICAL WARNING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO KEEP YOU ALIVE.  Unless they're giving up on keeping you alive...then you are perfectly justified in moving away and/or doing all sorts of NIMBY tactics to prevent any nuclear plant from being built near you.  It's stupid shiat like this that prevents us from getting off fossil fuels - the nuclear plant operators give even less of a fark about you and your safety than fossil fuel companies do.
 
2023-01-25 4:26:02 AM  
NCSB: I worked at an industrial facility that was a large user of cyanide. It was three years after the plant got up and running before someone noticed that the alarm indicating the overhead crane was moving sounded exactly the same as the cyanide gas detector alarm.
 
2023-01-25 6:21:35 AM  

Snoopys_Root_Beer_Dealer: As someone who lives within the kill radius of a nuclear plant, I can tell you that the siren is there so that you can hear it above everything else, even in the middle of a dead sleep, even in the middle of a thunderstorm.  If you turn off your phone, you're dead.  If you forget to charge your battery, you're dead.  If the 5g network has lag that day, you're dead.  If you live out in a cell phone dead zone, you're dead.


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2023-01-25 9:41:27 AM  

NoGods: NCSB: I worked at an industrial facility that was a large user of cyanide. It was three years after the plant got up and running before someone noticed that the alarm indicating the overhead crane was moving sounded exactly the same as the cyanide gas detector alarm.


...so are you saying it took y'all three years to set off the cyanide gas detector?
...or are you saying you didn't use the overhead crane at all for the first 3 years?
 
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