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(Kotaku)   Source code breach at Riot Games leads to extortion demand threatening the release of new cheat systems for League of Legends. Riot Games refuses, knowing that would be like dumping a bucket of sand in the Sahara   (kotaku.com) divider line
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2023-01-24 8:24:52 PM  
> While no player data or personal information had been taken

That they are both aware of and will admit to.

I guarantee they didn't just hop into their systems and steal the source code, then give up if they didn't find actual user info.
 
2023-01-24 8:28:30 PM  
Literally the only exposure I have to LoL is a kinda-funny mockumentary show about an esports group that plays it. Apparently it's pretty big though.
 
2023-01-24 8:33:31 PM  
Could some college kid spend a few weekends optimizing the code and releasing objectively better versions?

Could someone turn those into games or is there too much monetization logic to find actual game code?
 
2023-01-24 9:39:39 PM  
This was how the original system of ranking employees on a 1 to 5 scale was supposed to work. The five to ten percent on the wrong tail of the bell curve were to be let go to encourage the others not to shirk.

Of course, unscrupulous managers quickly learned that they could reward bootlickers with 5's and vertebrates with 1's, regardless of their productivity. Merely lazy managers gave everyone the same score unless someone had screwed up on a scale impossible for the managers to ignore (i.e. impossible for the managers' managers to ignore).

I mean, managers could write a detailed report on each minion's performance for HR's file, but even if they had the time to do that, how much do they really know about what their minions got done this year?

Usually, the manager will wind up delegating the reports to the minions in the form of "self-assessments," and accept them with few changes unless the minion'd recollection of events is completely different from the manager's. Of course, no minion is his right mind will admit to meriting a 1.
 
2023-01-24 9:41:12 PM  

MikeyFuccon: This was how the original system of ranking employees on a 1 to 5 scale was supposed to work. The five to ten percent on the wrong tail of the bell curve were to be let go to encourage the others not to shirk.

Of course, unscrupulous managers quickly learned that they could reward bootlickers with 5's and vertebrates with 1's, regardless of their productivity. Merely lazy managers gave everyone the same score unless someone had screwed up on a scale impossible for the managers to ignore (i.e. impossible for the managers' managers to ignore).

I mean, managers could write a detailed report on each minion's performance for HR's file, but even if they had the time to do that, how much do they really know about what their minions got done this year?

Usually, the manager will wind up delegating the reports to the minions in the form of "self-assessments," and accept them with few changes unless the minion'd recollection of events is completely different from the manager's. Of course, no minion is his right mind will admit to meriting a 1.


Sorry, wrong thread.
 
2023-01-24 9:46:27 PM  

ekdikeo4: > While no player data or personal information had been taken

That they are both aware of and will admit to.

I guarantee they didn't just hop into their systems and steal the source code, then give up if they didn't find actual user info.


User/Account data and actual game code work are not going to be in the same place at all.  For one thing, you wouldn't want constant connection from the outside bouncing in and out of a server you're doing production coding on.  Makes no sense organizationally, security-wise, or even day to day working convenience-wise
 
2023-01-24 10:34:50 PM  
Stopped playing League of Legends nearly 10 years ago. Read they released a support character (role I usually took) for the first time in years and checked in for one weekend in 2015.

Don't miss it at all. Majority of players had delusions of grandeur that they were pro players being held back by all their teammates.

Or were Brazilians trolling everyone by suiciding and typing jajajajaja.

I think LoL lost it when they banned this guy from making troll videos making fun of their nasal voiced geek promoting new characters.

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Youtube cGLROijkLHg
 
2023-01-24 10:45:00 PM  
Eh, wake me when someone tries to make a League Classic server again

Quantumbunny: Could some college kid spend a few weekends optimizing the code and releasing objectively better versions?

Could someone turn those into games or is there too much monetization logic to find actual game code?


No real need. MOBAs aren't really a new thing nor is the gameplay loop itself really copywritten. League's problem has always been their precarious balance (or lack thereof) and bizarre need to fark with perfectly playable existing characters and change them up to make more "exciting/impactful" gameplay, or in the case of (at least) Aatrox, effectively deleting them and using the name/body for a completely different character
 
2023-01-25 12:49:40 AM  
I'll admit that creating a video game for the sole purpose of acting as a hype reel for a TV show was a bit much but you can't argue with the results:

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2023-01-25 5:42:08 AM  

ekdikeo4: > While no player data or personal information had been taken

That they are both aware of and will admit to.

I guarantee they didn't just hop into their systems and steal the source code, then give up if they didn't find actual user info.


As mentioned, developers that work on the game (and have access to its source code) almost never have access to customer data, certainly not at a company as large as Riot.  They are completely separate systems managed entirely differently.
 
2023-01-25 11:16:08 AM  
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2023-01-25 11:59:37 AM  

baron von doodle: I'll admit that creating a video game for the sole purpose of acting as a hype reel for a TV show was a bit much but you can't argue with the results:

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It is a weird edge case of sometimes that shiat comes out pretty good.  Whoever they have handling the media side of things makes pretty good choices in who they have make what, musically and show-wise

/good in this case assumes their target audience
//which isn't me - but even I gotta admit it doesn't suck
///shrug
 
2023-01-25 1:23:05 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: I'll admit that creating a video game for the sole purpose of acting as a hype reel for a TV show was a bit much but you can't argue with the results:

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It is a weird edge case of sometimes that shiat comes out pretty good.  Whoever they have handling the media side of things makes pretty good choices in who they have make what, musically and show-wise

/good in this case assumes their target audience
//which isn't me - but even I gotta admit it doesn't suck
///shrug


Very early on Riot tried to have an evolving story that would affect the game as a whole since the original concept was that the game itself was an in-universe alternative to War between the various nations and used to resolve conflicts and disputes, on top of the Summoner concept, that You the player (as the Summoner) controlled the champion in the game. That got real messy real fast as they realized doing anything at all interesting or permanent with a champion (like killing them) meant removing them from the game and pissing off paying customers, so shiat kind of floated around in a kind of stasis for a few years before they finally released an animated short that straight up killed like 3/4s of the champions that appeared in it and basically said "fark it, the game you play no longer means anything in terms of the universe, Summoners no longer exist and we can do whatever we want in other media" which led to things like Arcane being greenlit.

That still doesn't cover things like individual Champions having received multiple revisions and changes to their lores or backgrounds to the point that they barely resemble the character they started as outside of their name and general appearance. Vi and Jinx actually are two of very few remaining Champions that haven't been fooled with in any major way and have more or less stuck to what was initially established for them.

/I haven't even played League regularly in like four or five years
//what the hell is wrong with me
 
2023-01-25 1:35:34 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: I'll admit that creating a video game for the sole purpose of acting as a hype reel for a TV show was a bit much but you can't argue with the results:

[Fark user image 425x629]

It is a weird edge case of sometimes that shiat comes out pretty good.  Whoever they have handling the media side of things makes pretty good choices in who they have make what, musically and show-wise

/good in this case assumes their target audience
//which isn't me - but even I gotta admit it doesn't suck
///shrug

Very early on Riot tried to have an evolving story that would affect the game as a whole since the original concept was that the game itself was an in-universe alternative to War between the various nations and used to resolve conflicts and disputes, on top of the Summoner concept, that You the player (as the Summoner) controlled the champion in the game. That got real messy real fast as they realized doing anything at all interesting or permanent with a champion (like killing them) meant removing them from the game and pissing off paying customers, so shiat kind of floated around in a kind of stasis for a few years before they finally released an animated short that straight up killed like 3/4s of the champions that appeared in it and basically said "fark it, the game you play no longer means anything in terms of the universe, Summoners no longer exist and we can do whatever we want in other media" which led to things like Arcane being greenlit.

That still doesn't cover things like individual Champions having received multiple revisions and changes to their lores or backgrounds to the point that they barely resemble the character they started as outside of their name and general appearance. Vi and Jinx actually are two of very few remaining Champions that haven't been fooled with in any major way and have more or less stuck to what was initially established for them.

/I haven't even played League regularly in like four or five years
...


Heh - makes them average for long-running games with lore.  Blizzard's performed the same farkery with their WoW lore, possibly more.  They just can't leave it alone in an ever-escalating attempt to keep players engaged.  Apparently no one's told them it's fine to leave the lore alone and just work with it
 
2023-01-25 2:56:03 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Heh - makes them average for long-running games with lore. Blizzard's performed the same farkery with their WoW lore, possibly more. They just can't leave it alone in an ever-escalating attempt to keep players engaged. Apparently no one's told them it's fine to leave the lore alone and just work with it


I guess League is long-running now that it's over 10 years, but they made a lot of those lore changes within the first 3-4 years of the game's life, then others that had been static for all that time suddenly got their own odd changes. A lot of it honestly feels like they're embarrassed about the game's origins and wanted people to take it more seriously, so a creepy little girl, a guy with a stick, a furry little scoutmaster or the Infraggable Krunk with a rusty cleaver suddenly needed super-deep/dark/tortured/complex stories instead of being kinda silly but fun characters just running around. Granted some like Taric really were goofy, dude was just a thinly-veiled Diablo 2 Paladin that got tossed into Runeterra, but he was kind of an exception.
 
2023-01-25 5:09:47 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: /I haven't even played League regularly in like four or five years
//what the hell is wrong with me


So... I should stop sending you pregnant futanari Yordle pr0n then?
 
2023-01-25 9:05:02 PM  

AgentKGB: KingBiefWhistle: /I haven't even played League regularly in like four or five years
//what the hell is wrong with me

So... I should stop sending you pregnant futanari Yordle pr0n then?


Pretty sure they'd end up as wide as they are tall

/just sayin
 
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