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2023-01-24 12:22:28 PM  
This would be the first indictment against a former US president in history
 
2023-01-24 12:22:56 PM  
Nice camera angle.
 
2023-01-24 12:23:43 PM  
Adam Klasfeld  @KlasfeldReports   11m

DA Willis OPPOSES the public release of report:

"For future defendants to be treated fairly, it's not appropriate at this time to have this report released."

One of the reasons for that, she says, is "decisions are imminent."
 
2023-01-24 12:23:55 PM  
The law states that grand jury reports SHALL be release upon completion of their service.

The report isn't subject to discretion, even if there's an ongoing criminal investigation.
 
2023-01-24 12:27:29 PM  
Nice find, thx.
 
2023-01-24 12:27:54 PM  
Greg Bluestein  @bluestein

Regardless of the ruling, Judge McBurney says the report isn't coming out today. Seems like he intends to give potential defendants time to appeal. Even if it is released - still an open question - it may be heavily redacted. #gapol
 
2023-01-24 12:30:21 PM  
I do sure hope something happens.
 
2023-01-24 12:31:01 PM  

markie_farkie: The law states that grand jury reports SHALL be release upon completion of their service.

The report isn't subject to discretion, even if there's an ongoing criminal investigation.


That depends on what the definition of the word "shall" is.
 
2023-01-24 12:32:27 PM  
Donut Recored.
 
2023-01-24 12:32:55 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:32:55 PM  

anjin-san: This would be the first indictment against a former US president in history


It's a report, not an indictement
 
2023-01-24 12:33:08 PM  
Blayne Alexander  @ReporterBlayne   5m

Judge McBurney details measures taken to, presumably, keep the report from leaking.
Says he hand-delivered the report to DA's office and that it's the only copy in circulation.
 
2023-01-24 12:33:26 PM  

red230: markie_farkie: The law states that grand jury reports SHALL be release upon completion of their service.

The report isn't subject to discretion, even if there's an ongoing criminal investigation.

That depends on what the definition of the word "shall" is.


If it's 2A related, then it means you are given 100000000 guns at birth, just as Jesus intended, and you are only allowed to utter the word GUN for the rest of your life, no exceptions aloud, EVAR!!11

Anything else is a seriously gray area slippery slope infringement of God-given writes thingie.
 
2023-01-24 12:34:53 PM  

anjin-san: This would be the first indictment against a former US president in history


Yup, which is why it won't be.  The ruling class would never set the precedent of holding themselves accountable.  Would be over the farking moon to be proven wrong here, but....
 
2023-01-24 12:35:09 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Adam Klasfeld  @KlasfeldReports   11m

DA Willis OPPOSES the public release of report:

"For future defendants to be treated fairly, it's not appropriate at this time to have this report released."

One of the reasons for that, she says, is "decisions are imminent."


That's a good point. Having it not released means the investigation is ongoing.
 
2023-01-24 12:35:16 PM  
Charges will be pursued?

Did I hear that right?
 
2023-01-24 12:35:44 PM  
So they've had 10 days to review the report and haven't been able to correlate their findings to the ongoing criminal investigation?
 
2023-01-24 12:35:54 PM  

red230: markie_farkie: The law states that grand jury reports SHALL be release upon completion of their service.

The report isn't subject to discretion, even if there's an ongoing criminal investigation.

That depends on what the definition of the word "shall" is.


in the iso qa world it means 'you do it'.  I do believe legally it is also that.  At least for the norms.  to richie riches all words in legal documents and laws are just etch a sketch things that you can wipe away and go about your day.
 
2023-01-24 12:36:19 PM  

markie_farkie: red230: markie_farkie: The law states that grand jury reports SHALL be release upon completion of their service.

The report isn't subject to discretion, even if there's an ongoing criminal investigation.

That depends on what the definition of the word "shall" is.

If it's 2A related, then it means you are given 100000000 guns at birth, just as Jesus intended, and you are only allowed to utter the word GUN for the rest of your life, no exceptions aloud, EVAR!!11

Anything else is a seriously gray area slippery slope infringement of God-given writes thingie.


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2023-01-24 12:39:32 PM  

Bag of Hammers: anjin-san: This would be the first indictment against a former US president in history

Yup, which is why it won't be.  The ruling class would never set the precedent of holding themselves accountable.  Would be over the farking moon to be proven wrong here, but....


I agree with most of what you're saying.  But at this point, T**** has done more harm than good for the oligarchs.  It seems like they're ready to let him burn, so they can make an example of him.

"See!  An ostensibly wealthy person broke the law and was punished!  There's totallynot a double standard!!!"
 
2023-01-24 12:39:35 PM  
no
 
2023-01-24 12:40:32 PM  

stevenboof: Nice camera angle.


I'm guessing a cop set it up.
 
2023-01-24 12:41:05 PM  
The judge sure sounds like he's leaning toward releasing the document in its entirety without redaction.
 
2023-01-24 12:45:20 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:45:25 PM  

markie_farkie: The judge sure sounds like he's leaning toward releasing the document in its entirety without redaction.


Pretty sure he wants to see chaos ensue.

At least by my hearing.
 
2023-01-24 12:46:08 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:46:29 PM  
"I'm ok with it being released, just not quite yet because we aren't done drafting the indictment."
 
2023-01-24 12:47:56 PM  

HedlessChickn: markie_farkie: The judge sure sounds like he's leaning toward releasing the document in its entirety without redaction.

Pretty sure he wants to see chaos ensue.

At least by my hearing.


It's called "due diligence". He's asking questions to make sure the DA has it covered. Actually this seems like a good judge.


In the end, doesn't matter, big things are going to happen now.
 
2023-01-24 12:48:46 PM  

cretinbob: anjin-san: This would be the first indictment against a former US president in history

It's a report, not an indictement


If they release a report recommending an indictment - there will be an indictment.
 
2023-01-24 12:49:01 PM  
The Village Fugs are here, to tell you exactly what is going to happen.
Village Fugs
 
2023-01-24 12:49:29 PM  
a) there will be an indictment
b) it is officially OK to f$ck with Georgia elections as much as you want
 
2023-01-24 12:50:41 PM  
"You're almost done...." lol
 
2023-01-24 12:50:49 PM  
Call me when Trump is ever held accountable for his crimes.
 
2023-01-24 12:51:38 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:51:39 PM  

mrshowrules: cretinbob: anjin-san: This would be the first indictment against a former US president in history

It's a report, not an indictement

If they release a report recommending an indictment - there will be an indictment.


There's going to be an indictment.
 
2023-01-24 12:51:50 PM  

stevenboof: Nice camera angle.


So far, of all the recent livestream court cases we've had posted, the Alex Jones Texas of all places case had the best.  Their mic setup was great too, as you got all the juicy convo at the tables, not just the person up at the courtroom microphone.
 
2023-01-24 12:52:06 PM  

cretinbob: HedlessChickn: markie_farkie: The judge sure sounds like he's leaning toward releasing the document in its entirety without redaction.

Pretty sure he wants to see chaos ensue.

At least by my hearing.

It's called "due diligence". He's asking questions to make sure the DA has it covered. Actually this seems like a good judge.


In the end, doesn't matter, big things are going to happen now.


My erection confirms.
 
2023-01-24 12:52:12 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:52:12 PM  

stuffy: Call me when Trump is ever held accountable for his crimes.


You're going to be a lonely man.
 
2023-01-24 12:52:43 PM  

cretinbob: mrshowrules: cretinbob: anjin-san: This would be the first indictment against a former US president in history

It's a report, not an indictement

If they release a report recommending an indictment - there will be an indictment.

There's going to be an indictment.


Sweet Jesus that would make my day.
 
2023-01-24 12:52:44 PM  
Not going to be released now, then indictments drop and the documents are released later.

This week is getting fun!
 
2023-01-24 12:52:54 PM  

markie_farkie: So they've had 10 days to review the report and haven't been able to correlate their findings to the ongoing criminal investigation?


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2023-01-24 12:53:06 PM  
Oscar the Grouch indicted for treason!!
 
2023-01-24 12:53:16 PM  

jso2897: stuffy: Call me when Trump is ever held accountable for his crimes.

You're going to be a lonely man.


But enough about his love life. ;)
 
2023-01-24 12:53:20 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:53:50 PM  

jso2897: The Village Fugs are here, to tell you exactly what is going to happen.
Village Fugs


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2023-01-24 12:53:55 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:54:30 PM  
Liz Dye   @5DollarFeminist   2m

Judge McBurney wonders how they're going to keep the report under wraps if the grand jurors aren't statutorily bound to keep it secret.

The court can issue a gag order, but there's no guarantee the appeals court will uphold it.
 
2023-01-24 12:54:36 PM  
I wonder if the closing arguments to the Grand Jury included something to the effect of  "Imagine if Pelosi or Schumer did this."
 
2023-01-24 12:55:04 PM  
On Friday, I'm sure.
 
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