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(CNN)   Mike Pence, come on down. You're the next contestant on "Whose Home Was Found to Contain Classified Documents Now?" *crowd boos*   (edition.cnn.com) divider line
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2023-01-24 12:13:40 PM  
Yeah but that's different because of reasons such as and furthermore comma.
 
2023-01-24 12:15:42 PM  
It's almost like there should be some group that oversees the handling, transportation, collection, and storage of government documents to handle this stuff.

Nah, makes to much sense
 
2023-01-24 12:16:08 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:17:25 PM  
We should just arrest everyone in politics and everyone worth more than 100 million dollars. Give them all the choice of being the snitch or being snitched on and we can see who's left standing. Snitches can end up doing community essential work. Snitched ons can rot. Odds are, we'll find enough.
 
2023-01-24 12:17:35 PM  

Ethertap: It's almost like there should be some group that oversees the handling, transportation, collection, and storage of government documents to handle this stuff.

Nah, makes to much sense


Ya.  It could be like an archive or something that deals with national paperwork and records.  A National Archive if you will...
 
2023-01-24 12:18:11 PM  
My guess is that if they were to search the homes of every living former president and vice-president - and probably some senators too - they would find classified documents.
 
2023-01-24 12:18:12 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:18:20 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:18:35 PM  
He had them stashed under a couple gay porno mags.
 
2023-01-24 12:18:48 PM  
Hundreds of billions wasted on homeland security and we can't stop a few hillbillies from trying to overthrow the government nor can we keep track of important documents which clearly should have never been printed in the first place.

I want out
 
2023-01-24 12:19:33 PM  

RealXavori: Ethertap: It's almost like there should be some group that oversees the handling, transportation, collection, and storage of government documents to handle this stuff.

Nah, makes to much sense

Ya.  It could be like an archive or something that deals with national paperwork and records.  A National Archive if you will...


The "THE AGENCY THAT ONLY DOES THIS ONE JOB AND THAT JOB IS HANDING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AGENCY" has a better ring to it
 
2023-01-24 12:19:37 PM  
It's almost as if powerful people know they're above the law.
 
2023-01-24 12:19:57 PM  
Mother will not be pleased.

Probably in her entire life, actually.
 
2023-01-24 12:20:19 PM  

RealXavori: Ethertap: It's almost like there should be some group that oversees the handling, transportation, collection, and storage of government documents to handle this stuff.

Nah, makes to much sense

Ya.  It could be like an archive or something that deals with national paperwork and records.  A National Archive if you will...


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The People's Papers!
 
2023-01-24 12:20:36 PM  
I can't believe Mother tolerated this bullshiat.
 
2023-01-24 12:20:41 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Hundreds of billions wasted on homeland security and we can't stop a few hillbillies from trying to overthrow the government nor can we keep track of important documents which clearly should have never been printed in the first place.

I want out


Yeah, but the price of produce went really high and we have lovely empty shipping containers along our border, which is nice.
 
2023-01-24 12:21:00 PM  
What is going on here?!
 
2023-01-24 12:21:06 PM  

Mangoose: We should just arrest everyone in politics and everyone worth more than 100 million dollars. Give them all the choice of being the snitch or being snitched on and we can see who's left standing. Snitches can end up doing community essential work. Snitched ons can rot. Odds are, we'll find enough.


Up the ante to rot / firing squad and you'll have my vote.
 
2023-01-24 12:21:19 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Hundreds of billions wasted on homeland security and we can't stop a few hillbillies from trying to overthrow the government nor can we keep track of important documents which clearly should have never been printed in the first place.

I want out


Just head for the border. I heard it's wide open.
 
2023-01-24 12:21:26 PM  
If he still has security clearance, I'm kind of mystified as to why this is an issue.  Same with Biden -- Jesus fark man, he's had security clearance since most of us still had our wisdom teeth.  Who farking cares?

Except trump -- fark that guy.
 
2023-01-24 12:21:44 PM  
At this point they better check George Santos' home for classified documents from his time in the CIA!
 
2023-01-24 12:22:06 PM  
That's 2-1 libs, your serve.
 
2023-01-24 12:22:45 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: It's almost as if powerful people know they're above the law.


I suspect it's a more that it is a systemic management system that in turn provides a great opportunity to abuse it by the sufficiently corrupt.
 
2023-01-24 12:23:18 PM  
Probably find some in Obama's old stuff, and Bush, and Clinton, and Carter, and probably a bunch of people in the senate and congress and others who have or had clearance.

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For the millionth time, TFG stole documents and hid them and lied about returning them, that is the difference.
 
2023-01-24 12:23:21 PM  

Nuclear Monk: HotWingConspiracy: It's almost as if powerful people know they're above the law.

I suspect it's a more that it is a systemic management system that in turn provides a great opportunity to abuse it by the sufficiently corrupt.


*systemic management deficiency
 
2023-01-24 12:23:36 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:24:18 PM  
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2023-01-24 12:25:16 PM  
I guarantee this happens with every administration. The difference with Trump is he did it willfully, shared them, and when caught claimed he was entitled to them.
 
2023-01-24 12:25:39 PM  
Within hours TFG will be demanding a raid on Hillary's house for her stash of documents.
 
2023-01-24 12:26:04 PM  
*ahem*


BECAUSE THEY ALL DO IT


Thank you.
 
2023-01-24 12:26:14 PM  
Do Congress next! How about using some of those new IRS agents audit all of Congress.
 
2023-01-24 12:26:21 PM  
In a stunning first, Pence (or his attorney) can be accused of doing the right thing. Remarkable!

Now, we just need Obama's and W's attorneys, Quayle's, Gore's, B Clinton's and maybe Jimmy Carter's seeing as how he's still alive to bring out their classifieds and we'll have a full house of criminally negligent former veeps and presidents. That'll take the pressure off old Joe.
 
2023-01-24 12:26:21 PM  
Clock is ticking, Garland. Special counsel by Monday or you're still a piece of shiat
 
2023-01-24 12:26:22 PM  
I better check my sock drawer.
 
2023-01-24 12:26:30 PM  

raerae1980: What is going on here?!


Muddying the water for Trump, IMO.
 
2023-01-24 12:26:44 PM  
Good thing TFG declassified everything with his mind or this would be a big deal.
 
2023-01-24 12:26:45 PM  
Pence, Biden and Trump have classified documents on their property. One has come up with 40+ excuses as to why they're his/planted/were already returned when they weren't.

/ Can you guess which one?
// I'll give you three guesses
/// And three slashies
 
2023-01-24 12:26:52 PM  

fortheloveofgod: My guess is that if they were to search the homes of every living former president and vice-president - and probably some senators too - they would find classified documents.


Absolutely.
The only real issue is how it gets handled. TFG forced the feds' hand to send in the FBI while he yelled and screamed about it with denials.
Meanwhile, Joe's response (and apparently Pence's) is, "Oops, here you go. My bad," with no evidence of ill-intent.
I'm glad Pence had some docs, because maybe this will blunt the whatabout-ism. Maybe...

/fark TFG
 
2023-01-24 12:27:40 PM  
I worked in a secure location for the Military back in the day.

There was lots of accountability when it came to handling classified documents.

wait, there's someone at the door. BRB.
 
2023-01-24 12:27:44 PM  

Ethertap: It's almost like there should be some group that oversees the handling, transportation, collection, and storage of government documents to handle this stuff.

Nah, makes to much sense


I know that you're being sarcastic, but there's supposed to be a 2-person review of all materials before it leaves certain areas, and based on the position, that rule is applied to ANYTHING and EVERYTHING leaving an office or residence (such as for POTUS, VPOTUS, etc.) to avoid this very thing happening.

I mentioned in another thread that this was a lot more common than people realize, and that the only thing weird was that TFG and his people knew about it and tried to hide it, then argued about it. Any other time it happens, it's reported, there's an investigation, and so long as it wasn't intentional, there's usually not too much hell to pay (save for the morons who were supposed to have reviewed the materials).

But when it comes to our elected leaders, this level of scrutiny has never been applied the same way as it would be for, say a defense contractor moving from a SCIF in one building to a SCIF in another building.

And that's a problem.
 
2023-01-24 12:27:47 PM  

KenMcCarthy: In a stunning first, Pence (or his attorney) can be accused of doing the right thing. Remarkable!

Now, we just need Obama's and W's attorneys, Quayle's, Gore's, B Clinton's and maybe Jimmy Carter's seeing as how he's still alive to bring out their classifieds and we'll have a full house of criminally negligent former veeps and presidents. That'll take the pressure off old Joe.


Actually, wait, Pence did the right thing (barely!) one other time, now that I think about it...
 
2023-01-24 12:27:48 PM  
"Classified" includes documents marked Confidential, like, I dunno, the guest list for the 2018 White House Christmas dinner.

Wake me up when they find documents marked Top Secret.

Wait, don't, I need the sleep.
 
2023-01-24 12:27:49 PM  

buster_v: If he still has security clearance, I'm kind of mystified as to why this is an issue.  Same with Biden -- Jesus fark man, he's had security clearance since most of us still had our wisdom teeth.  Who farking cares?

Except trump -- fark that guy.


Because the "pool boy" doesn't have one. Neither does a cleaning lady, or the lawn dude. This shiat is not supposed to be floating around even in 95% of what's classified out there is readily available on wikipedia,
 
2023-01-24 12:28:07 PM  

fortheloveofgod: My guess is that if they were to search the homes of every living former president and vice-president - and probably some senators too - they would find classified documents.


And they should now be very nervous. Every one of them found to have classified documents should be permanently barred from holding public office or having any kind of security clearance. Trump, Biden and Pence? Barred. Obama, Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Gore ... Etc.? Nervous. Examples must be made, regardless of party. The next Administration should be too scared to risk it.
 
2023-01-24 12:28:12 PM  

Nuclear Monk: Nuclear Monk: HotWingConspiracy: It's almost as if powerful people know they're above the law.

I suspect it's a more that it is a systemic management system that in turn provides a great opportunity to abuse it by the sufficiently corrupt.

*systemic management deficiency


Which is built in for shiat like this.
 
2023-01-24 12:28:20 PM  
Damn. I better check my basement for classified documents, they are apparently everywhere!
 
2023-01-24 12:28:21 PM  
So is this just the thing to do or are our security protocols veeeery shiatty?
 
2023-01-24 12:29:07 PM  
Let's consider what we know so far...  Drumpf packed up 11k worth of documents, and took them all the way to Florida, and no one noticed.  A clear year later, they decide it was time to try to find them.

Now we are finding that Biden had some documents too.  In multiple places.  From when he was Veep.  And more from when he was a Senator.  Now we find that Pence has documents.

I actually wonder...  How many other Senators and/or members of the House have documents.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the ones that are yelling the loudest about it are probably the first place to start.

In any case, this tells us that we have a really serious problem with maintaining the security of these documents.  The farking library down the street has a better system for checking out and tracking books.  Why does our actual government have such lax rules?

Also, too many documents are classified.  Seriously...  If our government had some transparency, we wouldn't need to have so much classified stuff to start with.
 
2023-01-24 12:29:31 PM  
That shiat's like glitter, it gets everywhere
 
2023-01-24 12:29:49 PM  
So there's just a machine in Washington that you drop a quarter in and it pops out classified documents, isn't there?
 
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