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(Yahoo)   Wagner facing Götterdämmerung: "According to our data, 42-43 thousand [prisoners] were recruited by the end of December. Of these, 10,000 are fighting at the front, because all the rest are either killed... or missing, or deserted, or surrendered"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2023-01-24 2:36:58 AM  
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2023-01-24 5:32:52 AM  
Still too many.
 
2023-01-24 5:53:12 AM  
I'm fair certain that they were expecting a certain degree of 'breakage in transit.' Every one of those prisoners who died, are missing, or deserted...is still one less conscript or volunteer in the same fate.  No death benefits for the prisoners, so tearful story told to the press. So long as they keep real troops from phoning home to tell their tales of woe, they serve their purpose. They're just bodies being thrown out there to shield people that someone might care about later. Which is exactly why the prisoners deserted or surrendered in the first place.
 
2023-01-24 5:58:24 AM  
Cannon fodder.
 
2023-01-24 6:10:00 AM  
This f'ing guy even looks like a Bond villain.
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2023-01-24 6:27:04 AM  
It's a calculated gamble. Break Ukraine under the weight of bodies before Ukraine can break through your lines. And it's fought Ukraine to a standstill, for now.
Logistics wins wars. Don't have enough arty and tanks?  Use humans as ammo.
The question is how long can they keep it up before the population buckles?
Putin lives in Warhammer 2020s.
 
2023-01-24 6:27:32 AM  
The GOP will recruit Wagner to build and run private for profit prisons, given their expertise with prisoners.
 
2023-01-24 6:41:52 AM  
I'm sorry, what the fudge did you expect to happen when you use Penal Battalions?

Are these idiots not given access to history books?
 
2023-01-24 6:42:09 AM  

Exluddite: This f'ing guy even looks like a Bond villain.
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Looks more like an emaciated Mr Rumbold from Are You Being Served?

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2023-01-24 6:44:39 AM  
Sic semper tired anus.
 
2023-01-24 6:51:06 AM  

MagicChicken: I'm sorry, what the fudge did you expect to happen when you use Penal Battalions?

Are these idiots not given access to history books?


"Reading is for fa... the liberal western elite." -- Some Russian (probably)
 
2023-01-24 6:53:21 AM  

MagicChicken: I'm sorry, what the fudge did you expect to happen when you use Penal Battalions?

Are these idiots not given access to history books?


Uh, this?

They even have their OWN history: the (in)famous Kaminski Brigade. I guess that gets left out of the Glorious History of the Great Patriotic War, though.
 
2023-01-24 7:03:06 AM  
Prisoners as soldiers?  How idiotic is that?  "Here you go, someone whose life we don't care about, be the front line and be sure not to surrender and run to a land where you can start over."  Yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't fight back or simply surrender and start a new life in Ukraine doing something else....or just quit the Russian army to flee through Ukraine and start your life anew doing anything else.

Russia must be desperate to even entertain this idea.
 
2023-01-24 7:08:57 AM  

MagicChicken: I'm sorry, what the fudge did you expect to happen when you use Penal Battalions?

Are these idiots not given access to history books?


"Penal Battalions" was pretty good but "Penal Battalions Part 3: The British Are Cumming" was really exceptional and deserved to win all of the GayVN awards.

/What do you mean "spelling"?
 
2023-01-24 7:09:38 AM  

Exluddite: This f'ing guy even looks like a Bond villain.
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They ask seem to suffer from major RBF, or, Russian biatch face
 
2023-01-24 7:14:14 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Prisoners as soldiers?  How idiotic is that?  "Here you go, someone whose life we don't care about, be the front line and be sure not to surrender and run to a land where you can start over."  Yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't fight back or simply surrender and start a new life in Ukraine doing something else....or just quit the Russian army to flee through Ukraine and start your life anew doing anything else.

Russia must be desperate to even entertain this idea.


If I were in a russian prison, I'd sign up in a minute. 1) crappy as they are, conditions are probably actually way better than the prison. 2) You will probably have the chance to desert or surrender. Maybe even get to another country and change your identity. 3) and if you don't you get a pardon. Well, maybe. Yeah, you have a pretty good chance of dying or being severely wounded with no medical care, like maybe 50/50, but you also have about the same chance of getting away or getting a pardon.
 
2023-01-24 7:15:03 AM  
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Those explody collars cost alot of money, and a double-pinky-promise isn't worth what it used to be.
 
2023-01-24 7:32:46 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Prisoners as soldiers?  How idiotic is that?  "Here you go, someone whose life we don't care about, be the front line and be sure not to surrender and run to a land where you can start over."  Yeah, I'm sure they wouldn't fight back or simply surrender and start a new life in Ukraine doing something else....or just quit the Russian army to flee through Ukraine and start your life anew doing anything else.

Russia must be desperate to even entertain this idea.


The alternative is drafting Russian youth; that's absolutely awful politically and has already bitten the regime with the public.

Russians don't care if Putin ravages Ukraine long as it's not hurting their lives too badly. They figure there's not much they can do about it. The second people can't eat or drink or entertain themselves however, or God forbid are asked to feed their adult kids into this boondoggle? That's when people take to the streets & random bombings start happening. Putin will resist another draft activation as much as he can.
 
2023-01-24 7:41:04 AM  
Won't someone please think of the corporate mercenary corps' balance sheet?
 
2023-01-24 7:49:56 AM  

BitwiseShift: The GOP will recruit Wagner to build and run private for profit prisons, given their expertise with prisoners.


As opposed to the liberals that want to release all the prisoners into "sanctuary cities" and watch the crime rates blow through the roof so they can blame the GOP for not funding more social services to help the ex-cons while screaming to defund the police?

/profit?
 
2023-01-24 8:10:57 AM  

Dick Gozinya: BitwiseShift: The GOP will recruit Wagner to build and run private for profit prisons, given their expertise with prisoners.

As opposed to the liberals that want to release all the prisoners into "sanctuary cities" and watch the crime rates blow through the roof so they can blame the GOP for not funding more social services to help the ex-cons while screaming to defund the police?

/profit?


Wow, that was a really nice "look over there" moment you just had. Unfortunately, your silly argument was discovered too quickly, so you are awarded only 2/10 points.
 
2023-01-24 8:31:35 AM  
Zeal & Ardor - Götterdämmerung
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2023-01-24 8:38:34 AM  

Exluddite: This f'ing guy even looks like a Bond villain.
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Nah, most Bond villains have a certain visual charisma.

He looks like Bond villain's thug #3 that gets shot in the opening scene then edited out in post.
 
2023-01-24 8:45:50 AM  
As a side note: I originally read that headline as 'Göttverdämmterung' and I gotta say, I like my head canon for the title a lot better.
 
2023-01-24 9:20:19 AM  

Exluddite: This f'ing guy even looks like a Bond villain.
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His facial expressions always make me think he has just realized he has a POS in his mouth.
 
2023-01-24 9:46:50 AM  

Herbert's Hippopotamus: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/DyD6fcCzEZk]


No.

This is correct.

Jessye Norman - Brünnhilde's Immolation 2/2
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Brunnhilde is so pissed off by their meddling that she burns the halls of the Gods. This is what the fat lady sings before it's over. Metaphorically and literally.
 
2023-01-24 9:58:09 AM  

Dick Gozinya: BitwiseShift: The GOP will recruit Wagner to build and run private for profit prisons, given their expertise with prisoners.

As opposed to the liberals that want to release all the prisoners into "sanctuary cities" and watch the crime rates blow through the roof so they can blame the GOP for not funding more social services to help the ex-cons while screaming to defund the police?

/profit?


Cute strawman you made there. The dreadlocks are a nice touch but it could use a drop or two of patchouli to really bring it to life.
 
2023-01-24 10:00:04 AM  
The Russian method of war is to throw men into the grinder until the enemy runs out of bullets. It's not like Russia's leaders have ever cared about the lives of their people, after all.
 
2023-01-24 10:03:44 AM  

The_Shade_Richard_Swift: Dick Gozinya: BitwiseShift: The GOP will recruit Wagner to build and run private for profit prisons, given their expertise with prisoners.

As opposed to the liberals that want to release all the prisoners into "sanctuary cities" and watch the crime rates blow through the roof so they can blame the GOP for not funding more social services to help the ex-cons while screaming to defund the police?

/profit?

Wow, that was a really nice "look over there" moment you just had. Unfortunately, your silly argument was discovered too quickly, so you are awarded only 2/10 points.


You're way too generous.
 
2023-01-24 10:09:09 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The_Shade_Richard_Swift: Dick Gozinya: BitwiseShift: The GOP will recruit Wagner to build and run private for profit prisons, given their expertise with prisoners.

As opposed to the liberals that want to release all the prisoners into "sanctuary cities" and watch the crime rates blow through the roof so they can blame the GOP for not funding more social services to help the ex-cons while screaming to defund the police?

/profit?

Wow, that was a really nice "look over there" moment you just had. Unfortunately, your silly argument was discovered too quickly, so you are awarded only 2/10 points.

You're way too generous.


Maybe he meant "two-tenths of a point."
 
2023-01-24 12:02:51 PM  
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Now I'm angry. This is the worst Amanda Waller ever. Bring back Viola Davis.
 
2023-01-24 12:09:59 PM  

hubiestubert: I'm fair certain that they were expecting a certain degree of 'breakage in transit.' Every one of those prisoners who died, are missing, or deserted...is still one less conscript or volunteer in the same fate.  No death benefits for the prisoners, so tearful story told to the press. So long as they keep real troops from phoning home to tell their tales of woe, they serve their purpose. They're just bodies being thrown out there to shield people that someone might care about later. Which is exactly why the prisoners deserted or surrendered in the first place.


I bet that the Wagner group is still accepting the money paid, by the Putin Government, for those mercenaries.   I, therefore, suspect that the amount of loses is higher than stated.
 
2023-01-24 12:48:49 PM  

hubiestubert: I'm fair certain that they were expecting a certain degree of 'breakage in transit.' Every one of those prisoners who died, are missing, or deserted...is still one less conscript or volunteer in the same fate.  No death benefits for the prisoners, so tearful story told to the press. So long as they keep real troops from phoning home to tell their tales of woe, they serve their purpose. They're just bodies being thrown out there to shield people that someone might care about later. Which is exactly why the prisoners deserted or surrendered in the first place.


Exactly.  They're basically using them as cannon fodder to shield the halfway competent troops.  This is actually a win-win for Putin as he gets rid of criminal elements in society in the process.
 
2023-01-24 1:14:38 PM  

Loren: hubiestubert: I'm fair certain that they were expecting a certain degree of 'breakage in transit.' Every one of those prisoners who died, are missing, or deserted...is still one less conscript or volunteer in the same fate.  No death benefits for the prisoners, so tearful story told to the press. So long as they keep real troops from phoning home to tell their tales of woe, they serve their purpose. They're just bodies being thrown out there to shield people that someone might care about later. Which is exactly why the prisoners deserted or surrendered in the first place.

Exactly.  They're basically using them as cannon fodder to shield the halfway competent troops.  This is actually a win-win for Putin as he gets rid of criminal elements in society in the process.


They're not just coming from Russian jails.
 
2023-01-24 7:58:11 PM  
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