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mistahtom
2023-01-23 9:11:41 AM  
I'm just happy the Bills didn't advance.  Too much potential for refball in the owl.
 
OldRod [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 9:38:11 AM  
As a Chiefs fan, I'm looking forward to a rematch of last year... but the Bengals seem to have our number, and Mahomes may or may not be hurt, so it's going to be a tough one
 
azwethnkweiz
2023-01-23 10:08:31 AM  
Bc this is the first time ever that teams did presales for an AFC/NFC championship game and then didn't make it?  It happens every year for every playoff game.
 
The Negro Community
2023-01-23 10:12:29 AM  

azwethnkweiz: Bc this is the first time ever that teams did presales for an AFC/NFC championship game and then didn't make it?  It happens every year for every playoff game.


Yeah, but you normally don't see the NFL putting out press releases and statements about the presale, trying to promote it. They normally leave it to the teams.
 
rickythepenguin
2023-01-23 10:20:41 AM  
I read where the NFL is quietly pissed, as they were hoping to use this as a $talking hor$e for future neutral $ite game$.

which i find incredible.  what a middle finger to each team's fanbase.  while this year, there was a defensible reason, if in fact the NFL did want tto try this in the future, what's the point of getting home field advantage?  How many fans have the disposable income to fly / hotel / get time off from work, etc.?  I've only been to two playoff games in my life (cardinals super bowl run in 2009) and, I would have been livid, if for some reason, the NFL moved the game to say, Dallas, or Santa Clara, or farking Indianapolis or whatever.  no farkign way could I swing that.
 
Dick Gozinya
2023-01-23 10:21:07 AM  
Considering the NFL already had rules to handle a 'no-contest' situation and chose to ignore its own farking rules and make up the stupid coin-toss bullshiat instead, I'd say the Bengals had every right to be salty before and have every right to schadenfreude now.
 
Ray_Finkle
2023-01-23 10:24:04 AM  

The Negro Community: azwethnkweiz: Bc this is the first time ever that teams did presales for an AFC/NFC championship game and then didn't make it?  It happens every year for every playoff game.

Yeah, but you normally don't see the NFL putting out press releases and statements about the presale, trying to promote it. They normally leave it to the teams.


Because teams have mailing list of all the people who normally go to their games in their own stadium and are in charge of how they sell their tickets. They don't have mailing list of people who go to games in Atlanta and wouldn't control the ticket sales. So the relied on the NFL to help.
Teams/players will find some random blogger with 10 followers who doubts them for motivation so this isn't really anything new or egregious from the Bengals. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna roll my eyes at it either.
 
HeathenHealer [TotalFark]
2023-01-23 10:29:13 AM  

Dick Gozinya: Considering the NFL already had rules to handle a 'no-contest' situation and chose to ignore its own farking rules and make up the stupid coin-toss bullshiat instead, I'd say the Bengals had every right to be salty before and have every right to schadenfreude now.


Yep the Bengals definitely got the short-end of that whole deal. I'm guessing they were playing with a little more piss and vinegar yesterday. Really impressive performance on the road.
 
GoldSpider
2023-01-23 10:31:32 AM  
Not sure what the league was supposed to do differently.  Stow your feelings.
 
bhcompy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 10:39:35 AM  

rickythepenguin: I read where the NFL is quietly pissed, as they were hoping to use this as a $talking hor$e for future neutral $ite game$.

which i find incredible.  what a middle finger to each team's fanbase.  while this year, there was a defensible reason, if in fact the NFL did want tto try this in the future, what's the point of getting home field advantage?  How many fans have the disposable income to fly / hotel / get time off from work, etc.?  I've only been to two playoff games in my life (cardinals super bowl run in 2009) and, I would have been livid, if for some reason, the NFL moved the game to say, Dallas, or Santa Clara, or farking Indianapolis or whatever.  no farkign way could I swing that.


They'll sell out regardless.  The league doesn't care about fans at a team level.  If they did, they would've forced shiatty owners that hate their fanbases, like the Spanos', to sell years ago
 
Clash City Farker
2023-01-23 10:44:03 AM  
I really enjoyed that game. I think Josh Allen is exposed as not that good.

KC has an uphill battle if Patrick has a high ankle sprain. Cincinnati is made specifically to beat the Chiefs.
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:00:24 AM  
Stay classy Bengals players you poor "overlooked" team. lol. What a bunch of assholes.
 
Seussie [TotalFark]
2023-01-23 11:00:46 AM  

Clash City Farker: KC has an uphill battle if Patrick has a high ankle sprain. Cincinnati is made specifically to beat the Chiefs.


I take issue with this statement.  I believe the Bengals have been developed to specifically beat the Browns, Ravens and Steelers.

/WhoDey
 
Cokezeroinacan
2023-01-23 11:02:04 AM  

azwethnkweiz: Bc this is the first time ever that teams did presales for an AFC/NFC championship game and then didn't make it?  It happens every year for every playoff game.


Seriously. Cincinnati was selling tickets to a cincy -Jax matchup this week.

A fact ignored by douchy cincy fans.
 
Cokezeroinacan
2023-01-23 11:03:35 AM  
Also, cinci will win this game, due to the fact that kc is injured, and cinci essentially played one fewer game this year.

I'm sure cinci fans will be complaining about how unfair that is, right?
 
rickythepenguin
2023-01-23 11:03:46 AM  

bhcompy: They'll sell out regardless. The league doesn't care about fans at a team level.


you are 100% right.....which still sucks. the NFL cares more about the $$$ than the fans.

but yeah.  the NFL will find some other reason to have neutral site playoff games.

preseasons, the NFL in Europe, that's fine.  or the rare time when a natural disaster (the SoCal wildfires, every third year, would displace San Diego, Hurrcane Katrina put the Saints on the road for a year, and a few other weather related situations (I think the Vikings lost a home game due to an ice storm in the mis 90s, that renderedt he Superdome or whatever unsafe), but...."because reasons!", is just bad for the fans.

but yeah, they'll do it.
 
Clash City Farker
2023-01-23 11:10:13 AM  

Seussie: Clash City Farker: KC has an uphill battle if Patrick has a high ankle sprain. Cincinnati is made specifically to beat the Chiefs.

I take issue with this statement.  I believe the Bengals have been developed to specifically beat the Browns, Ravens and Steelers.

/WhoDey


What good is that if you lose to KC every time after you get done winning the division?
 
bluorangefyre [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:12:28 AM  
The fact that Goodell is crying over the loss of money from charging top dollar for a neutral site game is WONDERFUL!
 
Lmaris
2023-01-23 11:29:16 AM  

rickythepenguin: I read where the NFL is quietly pissed, as they were hoping to use this as a $talking hor$e for future neutral $ite game$.


Thus providing zero incentive for a team to play their best every game, because just squeaking into playoffs is all that matter, not home field advantage.

Lost is the reward for being a dominant team, to the fans that support them.  It rewards large cities whose teams aren't that good and punishes smaller markets whose teams are better.

Leave it to the NFL to screw the game up further.  The rules have twisted the game into a 4 hour farce.
 
meanmutton
2023-01-23 11:31:17 AM  
I'm still surprised that the NFL didn't have the 17th game for each team be a neutral site game. It would have maintained competitive balance and allow for their Mexico / Canada / Europe / places without NFL teams to host games without teams giving up a home game.
 
AppleOptionEsc
2023-01-23 11:32:44 AM  

rickythepenguin: I read where the NFL is quietly pissed, as they were hoping to use this as a $talking hor$e for future neutral $ite game$.

which i find incredible.  what a middle finger to each team's fanbase.  while this year, there was a defensible reason, if in fact the NFL did want tto try this in the future, what's the point of getting home field advantage?  How many fans have the disposable income to fly / hotel / get time off from work, etc.?  I've only been to two playoff games in my life (cardinals super bowl run in 2009) and, I would have been livid, if for some reason, the NFL moved the game to say, Dallas, or Santa Clara, or farking Indianapolis or whatever.  no farkign way could I swing that.


The NFL is for the whales, especially, nay, exclusively during the playoffs. Poors go away, we got rich bandwagon doctors and lawyers to think about.
 
Eddie Hazel's E string
2023-01-23 11:32:57 AM  

phimuskapsi: Stay classy Bengals players you poor "overlooked" team. lol. What a bunch of assholes.


???

They're making the same type of statements any winning team makes at press conferences. It's lighthearted fun.

The only asshole behavior from yesterday was the Bills fans who BOOED Tee Higgins after his reception. The dude felt bad enough about the Hamlin situation, what the hell?
 
rickythepenguin
2023-01-23 11:37:25 AM  

Lmaris: Lost is the reward for being a dominant team, to the fans that support them. It rewards large cities whose teams aren't that good and punishes smaller markets whose teams are better.


exactly.  and i'm very, verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry confident the NFL would make Dallas, Green Bay, the Giants, or Kansasi City, Pittburgh play a neutral site playoff game.  Ayup.  totally.
 
meanmutton
2023-01-23 11:37:51 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: rickythepenguin: I read where the NFL is quietly pissed, as they were hoping to use this as a $talking hor$e for future neutral $ite game$.

which i find incredible.  what a middle finger to each team's fanbase.  while this year, there was a defensible reason, if in fact the NFL did want tto try this in the future, what's the point of getting home field advantage?  How many fans have the disposable income to fly / hotel / get time off from work, etc.?  I've only been to two playoff games in my life (cardinals super bowl run in 2009) and, I would have been livid, if for some reason, the NFL moved the game to say, Dallas, or Santa Clara, or farking Indianapolis or whatever.  no farkign way could I swing that.

The NFL is for the whales, especially, nay, exclusively during the playoffs. Poors go away, we got rich bandwagon doctors and lawyers to think about.


That's pretty much how all entertainment is going. The middle class is getting squeezed out of live sports, concerts, travel. It's all about the corporate buyers and the super rich buyers.
 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:38:21 AM  

rickythepenguin: I read where the NFL is quietly pissed, as they were hoping to use this as a $talking hor$e for future neutral $ite game$.


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Look, they actually do this with the Super Bowl and the increasing number of international games, so you can be justified in your outrage for that, but the League is made up by team owners who happen to like having their own home game$.  I don't see Jerry Jones agreeing to have Cowboys games at neutral sites.  Same for Green Bay, Las Vegas, SF, etc...

Pretty sure this was a pretty unique situation with a potential number one seed getting a canceled game towards the end of the season due to an extremely rare medical issue.

GoldSpider: Not sure what the league was supposed to do differently.  Stow your feelings.


This.
 
Cokezeroinacan
2023-01-23 11:38:53 AM  

rickythepenguin: Lmaris: Lost is the reward for being a dominant team, to the fans that support them. It rewards large cities whose teams aren't that good and punishes smaller markets whose teams are better.

exactly.  and i'm very, verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry confident the NFL would make Dallas, Green Bay, the Giants, or Kansasi City, Pittburgh play a neutral site playoff game.  Ayup.  totally.


They would probably make those teams play the same number of games as the other teams in the playoffs...
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:39:16 AM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: They're making the same type of statements any winning team makes at press conferences. It's lighthearted fun.


lol no they aren't. Coaches going on air after a game to rip a bunch of fans for buying pre-sale tickets is bush league stuff. No other coach is going to say a thing like that, the Bengals players and fans have been quite vocal about the whole Hamlin thing and a big feeling that they got screwed at every turn while the Bills got every helping hand (which wasn't the case). As someone else noted, no one said a goddamn thing on the Bengals when their fans were buying early tickets.

The love affair between the Bills/Bengals fanbases is over. fark Who Dey nation.
 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:41:30 AM  

rickythepenguin: exactly.  and i'm very, verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry confident the NFL would make Dallas, Green Bay, the Giants, or Kansasi City, Pittburgh play a neutral site playoff game.  Ayup.  totally.


Okay, never mind, you got it.  I mean, such a change would require a vote by the owners.

Not sure why your earlier post states that this was some stalking horse, when that's what London, Mexico City, Germany, and some 50+ years of Super Bowls already are.
 
HeathenHealer [TotalFark]
2023-01-23 11:43:33 AM  

phimuskapsi: The love affair between the Bills/Bengals fanbases is over. fark Who Dey nation.


Dude, as a friendly farker, this is not a good look for you. The coach was clearly joking around.
 
jake3988 [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:45:37 AM  

rickythepenguin: I read where the NFL is quietly pissed, as they were hoping to use this as a $talking hor$e for future neutral $ite game$.


No, you didn't.

It was a special one time thing.  Piss off with this stupid BS.

The Negro Community: azwethnkweiz: Bc this is the first time ever that teams did presales for an AFC/NFC championship game and then didn't make it?  It happens every year for every playoff game.

Yeah, but you normally don't see the NFL putting out press releases and statements about the presale, trying to promote it. They normally leave it to the teams.


Because it was neutral site.  No team owned that.  NFL doing it was the only thing that made sense.

Unless you wanted the Atlanta Falcons to go 'HEY, COME VISIT OUR STADIUM TO NOT WATCH US PLAY'
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:46:19 AM  

HeathenHealer: phimuskapsi: The love affair between the Bills/Bengals fanbases is over. fark Who Dey nation.

Dude, as a friendly farker, this is not a good look for you. The coach was clearly joking around.


Well you better get him to explain that to millions of fans, because none of us felt the humor of the situation, and today, I honestly I don't give a fark what you think.
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:47:10 AM  

HeathenHealer: phimuskapsi: The love affair between the Bills/Bengals fanbases is over. fark Who Dey nation.

Dude, as a friendly farker, this is not a good look for you. The coach was clearly joking around.


PS Mixon and Zac Taylor were talking shiat all week too, go look it up.
 
Cokezeroinacan
2023-01-23 11:49:18 AM  

HeathenHealer: phimuskapsi: The love affair between the Bills/Bengals fanbases is over. fark Who Dey nation.

Dude, as a friendly farker, this is not a good look for you. The coach was clearly joking around.


As a fan of an NFC team, I'll say that all the whining from cinci players and coaches over the past week is what is truly the bad look.

They went from the classes of the NFL to the asses in about 3 weeks.
 
HeathenHealer [TotalFark]
2023-01-23 11:52:15 AM  

phimuskapsi: because none of us felt the humor of the situation, and today, I honestly I don't give a fark what you think.


So you're pissing and moaning because your got it's ass-kicked at home and playing the "how dare he disrespect us card". Got it.

phimuskapsi: PS Mixon and Zac Taylor were talking shiat all week too, go look it up.


Yep I'm fully aware that especially Mixon has been playing-up the "we're still the team to beat" and disrespect card heavily. Nothing he said was out of line. It was pretty typical, vanilla, rah-rah shiat.

You know I'm a Vikings fan and I've dealt with crushing defeats just as much as you. Try to keep level-headed, it's just a farking game.
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 11:58:41 AM  

HeathenHealer: Yep I'm fully aware that especially Mixon has been playing-up the "we're still the team to beat" and disrespect card heavily. Nothing he said was out of line. It was pretty typical, vanilla, rah-rah shiat.

You know I'm a Vikings fan and I've dealt with crushing defeats just as much as you. Try to keep level-headed, it's just a farking game.


Except to my area it's a bit more than that, we've been (WNY/Buffalo) through a fark ton of some really horrible shiat, so to lose and then have the other team literally talk shiat the week prior and then after is just seen as classless. As I said, it became clear that all the good will people felt towards us was completely temporary and then used as a weapon against the team and the fans of that team. 

You want to get a good treatment? Use the same class they showed when Hamlin DID get injured, instead we got a complete lack of tact or awareness. They think they've somehow been wronged the whole season even though they went to the friggen SB last year. Fark them. 

Go Chiefs.
 
jake3988 [OhFark]
2023-01-23 12:07:45 PM  

meanmutton: I'm still surprised that the NFL didn't have the 17th game for each team be a neutral site game. It would have maintained competitive balance and allow for their Mexico / Canada / Europe / places without NFL teams to host games without teams giving up a home game.


It's a TON of extra work for almost zero benefit.  Alternating the home game back and forth for the extra game is far simpler.

Since the ending few weeks are always (by design) divisional games, there's always going to be a few weeks that need multiple neutral sites.
You'd likely need to rotate the neutral sites (depending on how they divvy up the cut for doing that).
You'd have to figure out every single site considered 'neutral' for every single team for fairness.

Ultimately virtually every team would probably be a neutral host for some other game every other year and we're right back to where we are now, but hellaciously more complicated.
 
bhcompy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 12:19:29 PM  

Clash City Farker: I really enjoyed that game. I think Josh Allen is exposed as not that good.

KC has an uphill battle if Patrick has a high ankle sprain. Cincinnati is made specifically to beat the Chiefs.


How many years did Peyton struggle in the playoffs before being successful?  Did anyone say he's "not that good"?  It wasn't a good game by any stretch, but saying Josh Allen is "exposed as not that good" because of an uninspired game in bad conditions is kind of ridiculous.  Josh Allen is inconsistent
 
SuperChuck
2023-01-23 12:24:32 PM  

Cokezeroinacan: Also, cinci will win this game, due to the fact that kc is injured, and cinci essentially played one fewer game this year.

I'm sure cinci fans will be complaining about how unfair that is, right?


KC got the first round bye. They've actually played fewer games than the Bengals
 
Cokezeroinacan
2023-01-23 12:29:57 PM  

SuperChuck: Cokezeroinacan: Also, cinci will win this game, due to the fact that kc is injured, and cinci essentially played one fewer game this year.

I'm sure cinci fans will be complaining about how unfair that is, right?

KC got the first round bye. They've actually played fewer games than the Bengals


A bye they earned by being the one seed.

Cinci got a game off, despite having no possibility of the one seed.

Seems pretty unfair.
 
rickythepenguin
2023-01-23 12:32:43 PM  

jake3988: No, you didn't.

It was a special one time thing. Piss off with this stupid BS.



ok i made it all up.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/overreactions-reality-checks-for-nfl-divisional-round-bengals-save-nfl-cowboys-move-on-from-dak-prescott/

The Bengals saved conference championship weekend
Overreaction or reality: Reality
Let's be honest. The NFL was salivating at the prospect of a neutral-site championship game between the Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills. Having 50,000 sold tickets for Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta full of Chiefs and Bills fans could have set the stage for future neutral-site conference championship games, which would have happened if the Bills beat the Bengals.
The NFL will never get the beta test they wanted, thanks to Cincinnati trouncing Buffalo in Orchard Park. If the NFL ever goes to neutral-site conference championship games, the league will have no visual evidence of an actual game to make it happen.
Thank the Bengals for making that a reality. The world will never know what a neutral-site championship game will look like.

Pro Football Focus had the same thing last week, re the NFL's hope(s) to do more of this.

Do your own research, Junior Varsity.
 
phimuskapsi [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 12:37:16 PM  

SuperChuck: Cokezeroinacan: Also, cinci will win this game, due to the fact that kc is injured, and cinci essentially played one fewer game this year.

I'm sure cinci fans will be complaining about how unfair that is, right?

KC got the first round bye. They've actually played fewer games than the Bengals


Sort of. The Bengals / Bills cancelled in the first few minutes of the game, it was essentially a bye.
 
Dick Gozinya
2023-01-23 12:37:49 PM  

GoldSpider: Not sure what the league was supposed to do differently.  Stow your feelings.


The league was supposed to follow the rules it already had in place for a no-contest situation, not ignore those rules and just make up some random bullshiat.

The NFL has now set a precedent that it can and will selectively follow whatever rules it wants. This massively undermines the integrity of the league; something it already had in short supply. The NFL is essentially the WWE now: scripted drama.

FWIW, I have/had no dog in this fight. I just want to see good football played under fair rules.
 
bhcompy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-23 12:48:28 PM  

Dick Gozinya: GoldSpider: Not sure what the league was supposed to do differently.  Stow your feelings.

The league was supposed to follow the rules it already had in place for a no-contest situation, not ignore those rules and just make up some random bullshiat.

The NFL has now set a precedent that it can and will selectively follow whatever rules it wants. This massively undermines the integrity of the league; something it already had in short supply. The NFL is essentially the WWE now: scripted drama.

FWIW, I have/had no dog in this fight. I just want to see good football played under fair rules.


Nobody missed the playoffs because of the situation.  The league made choices with that in mind
 
Galileo's Daughter
2023-01-23 12:53:57 PM  

phimuskapsi: Stay classy Bengals players you poor "overlooked" team. lol. What a bunch of assholes.


LOL you mad
 
HeathenHealer [TotalFark]
2023-01-23 12:54:29 PM  

Clash City Farker: I think Josh Allen is exposed as not that good.


Josh Allen would pretty easily be the starter for any other team with the exceptions of KC, Cincy, and possibly Philly. Any other team would be thrilled to have him as their starter.
 
Clash City Farker
2023-01-23 1:19:09 PM  

HeathenHealer: Clash City Farker: I think Josh Allen is exposed as not that good.

Josh Allen would pretty easily be the starter for any other team with the exceptions of KC, Cincy, and possibly Philly. Any other team would be thrilled to have him as their starter.


I think he gets by using prodigious size rather than football ability.
 
HeathenHealer [TotalFark]
2023-01-23 1:21:05 PM  

Clash City Farker: he gets by using prodigious size


Ah, I see you've talked to my girlfriend.
 
BlazeTrailer
2023-01-23 1:21:19 PM  

The Negro Community: azwethnkweiz: Bc this is the first time ever that teams did presales for an AFC/NFC championship game and then didn't make it?  It happens every year for every playoff game.

Yeah, but you normally don't see the NFL putting out press releases and statements about the presale, trying to promote it. They normally leave it to the teams.


Sre, but it was the league that facilitated the game move to a neutral site. Were they to wait for the Falcons to come out and push ticket sales?

I'm sure KC presold tickets to this game, maybe even before the neutral site tix. So I guess these plns would have been "ruined" had Buffalo won? Normal operations as a perceived disrespectful slight to the team is a stupid talking point and Taylor is a twat for joining his team's engagement in it. Or did he push this on his team?
 
BlazeTrailer
2023-01-23 1:24:52 PM  

HeathenHealer: Dick Gozinya: Considering the NFL already had rules to handle a 'no-contest' situation and chose to ignore its own farking rules and make up the stupid coin-toss bullshiat instead, I'd say the Bengals had every right to be salty before and have every right to schadenfreude now.

Yep the Bengals definitely got the short-end of that whole deal. I'm guessing they were playing with a little more piss and vinegar yesterday. Really impressive performance on the road.


Would have been short-ended had KC lost its finale. Baltimore got the shaft if they had won the finale. As it turns out neither was shafted and it's a nonstory
 
Social Justice Warlock
2023-01-23 1:26:53 PM  

phimuskapsi: Eddie Hazel's E string: They're making the same type of statements any winning team makes at press conferences. It's lighthearted fun.

lol no they aren't. Coaches going on air after a game to rip a bunch of fans for buying pre-sale tickets is bush league stuff. No other coach is going to say a thing like that


I agree Bengals players (Burrow on top of that list) have been outspokenly cocky these past few weeks... and with the recent statements by the coach, one can guess it begins at the top.

Having said that, I can imagine *several* head coaches with similar tongue in cheek answers. Mike Tomlin, Dan Campbell, Doug Peterson, Mike McDaniels and even Sean Payton have all sparred with members of the media with jokes and sarcasm at one time or another.
 
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