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(WMAR News 2 Baltimore)   If you thought moving the engine to the middle upset the old Corvetties, wait until you see what they're planning for next year   (wmar2news.com) divider line
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thorpe [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-17 11:43:22 PM  
That car has fat hips.

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enry [TotalFark]
2023-01-17 11:48:02 PM  
The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor. It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

Great.  You invented the 2000s Prius.  Though it won't go 45 on battery alone, so there's that.
 
bloobeary [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-18 12:02:55 AM  
It just doesn't have that corvette feel without the flip-up headlights.
 
monsatano [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-18 12:19:37 AM  

bloobeary: It just doesn't have that corvette feel without the flip-up headlights.


It's been almost 20 years - get over it
 
Muta
2023-01-18 7:20:17 AM  

enry: The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor.


I work at a Big 3 auto and I am getting a kick out of this.

I was working with one of the battery engineers on a BEV vehicle and he was saying that the hybrid is the most efficient configuration right now.  Gas engines are least efficient when accelerating from a stop.  Electrics have recharge, weather and range limitations.  Combining the two, using the electric motor to get up to speed then using the engine to maintain that speed balances the strengths of the two powertrains.  Plus, since the motor directly powers the axles, you don't lose power and there is no lag when you punch it.  That is how you get your sub 3 second 0 to 60 times.

It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

I thought that there was a regulation that an electric vehicle had to make ICE sounds over a certain speed, like 5 or 7 miles per hour.  The only reason I think this is because I was arguing that instead of the sound of an ICE, the electric cars should make to tweeting sound of the Jetson's flying car.
 
question_dj [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 7:28:55 AM  
Performance hybrid systems, how do they work?

GM is doing this in preparation for both the IMSA LMDh category, and the Indycar switch to hybrid coming in 2024. The Corvette is where their racing developments go into production.
 
Yaw String [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 7:29:51 AM  
Muta: "...electric cars should make to tweeting sound of the Jetson's flying car."

Couldn't agree more.
 
Yaw String [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 7:31:42 AM  

thorpe: That car has fat hips.

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I noticed the driver isn't wearing a mask, but the passenger is.
 
covalesj
2023-01-18 7:40:43 AM  
This is like the 'clean coal technology' version of an electric vehicle.
 
Muta
2023-01-18 7:48:27 AM  

Yaw String: thorpe: That car has fat hips.

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I noticed the driver isn't wearing a mask, but the passenger is.


Only one explanation, the driver locked the windows then farted.
 
debug
2023-01-18 7:54:53 AM  

Muta: enry: The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor.

I work at a Big 3 auto and I am getting a kick out of this.

I was working with one of the battery engineers on a BEV vehicle and he was saying that the hybrid is the most efficient configuration right now.  Gas engines are least efficient when accelerating from a stop.  Electrics have recharge, weather and range limitations.  Combining the two, using the electric motor to get up to speed then using the engine to maintain that speed balances the strengths of the two powertrains.  Plus, since the motor directly powers the axles, you don't lose power and there is no lag when you punch it.  That is how you get your sub 3 second 0 to 60 times.

It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

I thought that there was a regulation that an electric vehicle had to make ICE sounds over a certain speed, like 5 or 7 miles per hour.  The only reason I think this is because I was arguing that instead of the sound of an ICE, the electric cars should make to tweeting sound of the Jetson's flying car.



Should be an available sound option on all EVs
i3 with Jetsons Sound
Youtube 4NgSZ8sjDgU
 
Likwit
2023-01-18 8:05:45 AM  

Muta: he was saying that the hybrid is the most efficient


Then he was being imprecise with his language or you misunderstood. Yes the two powertrains help offset each other's weakness, but gasoline engines are incredibly inefficient no matter how much help they get. The Prius is supposed to be the shining example of hybrid efficiency, but Toyota's catalog efficiency figures are still only half as good as a similarly sized EV in the real world.
 
question_dj [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 8:06:10 AM  

debug: Muta: enry: The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor.

I work at a Big 3 auto and I am getting a kick out of this.

I was working with one of the battery engineers on a BEV vehicle and he was saying that the hybrid is the most efficient configuration right now.  Gas engines are least efficient when accelerating from a stop.  Electrics have recharge, weather and range limitations.  Combining the two, using the electric motor to get up to speed then using the engine to maintain that speed balances the strengths of the two powertrains.  Plus, since the motor directly powers the axles, you don't lose power and there is no lag when you punch it.  That is how you get your sub 3 second 0 to 60 times.

It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

I thought that there was a regulation that an electric vehicle had to make ICE sounds over a certain speed, like 5 or 7 miles per hour.  The only reason I think this is because I was arguing that instead of the sound of an ICE, the electric cars should make to tweeting sound of the Jetson's flying car.


Should be an available sound option on all EVs
[YouTube video: i3 with Jetsons Sound]


On the Tesla, the reverse sound can be configured. My friend has it as the Jetson car sound
 
question_dj [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 8:07:48 AM  
Farkers arguing over the point of a hybrid system in a Corvette: it has one purpose, make car go faster.

That's it.
 
Glockenspiel Hero [OhFark]
2023-01-18 8:32:17 AM  

enry: The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor. It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

Great.  You invented the 2000s Prius.  Though it won't go 45 on battery alone, so there's that.


A Prius will happily run at 60+ on battery alone- I do it all the time.  A bit of a tailwind and the gas engine will shut down on the highway, at least for a mile or two

Hell, on the trip to my son's college there are places I do 60+ while recharging the battery.  (Yeah, it's just a bit hilly)

/Never been a Corvette guy, but I really wouldn't mind a hybrid C8 if someone feels like donating one.  Nice looking car
 
scanman61
2023-01-18 8:39:37 AM  

question_dj: Farkers arguing over the point of a hybrid system in a Corvette: it has one purpose, make car go faster.

That's it.


Quicker

It doesn't really help top end but the electric motor torque really gets you off the line
 
The Smails Kid
2023-01-18 8:44:15 AM  
FTFA: "engineers designed it so future there could be hybrid and electric versions in the future"

Do they speak English in the future?
 
pheelix
2023-01-18 9:00:55 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: bloobeary: It just doesn't have that corvette feel without the flip-up headlights. A balding middle aged man with a ponytail in the driver's seat.

Fixed


I would call that progress. One of the first C8's I saw up close was in a parking lot. I was expecting an older Gen Xer going through his midlife crisis to get out of the car but instead an old geezer wrestled his way out of the driver's seat and hobbled off with his dually oxygen tank in tow.
 
baka-san [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 9:01:57 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: bloobeary: It just doesn't have that corvette feel without the flip-up headlights. A balding middle aged man with a ponytail in the driver's seat.

Fixed


Or a middle aged woman with bad taste in men
Yes, Mrs Baka's parents bought her a 2017 C7 for her birthday in oct

Can't even fit in the passenger seat
 
EdgeRunner [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-18 9:09:30 AM  

The Smails Kid: FTFA: "engineers designed it so future there could be hybrid and electric versions in the future"

Do they speak English in the future?


Must've been written by this guy.

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"Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember, my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future."
 
pheelix
2023-01-18 9:12:48 AM  
According to C&D, the electric portion uses a 160hp motor with an open diff and brake-based torque vectoring. So in typical GM fashion they take a great idea and cheap it out in the worst possible way.  Scrap the diff and use two smaller motors up front you nitwits!
 
baka-san [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 9:14:35 AM  

pheelix: According to C&D, the electric portion uses a 160hp motor with an open diff and brake-based torque vectoring. So in typical GM fashion they take a great idea and cheap it out in the worst possible way.  Scrap the diff and use two smaller motors up front you nitwits!


They need to be able to do this with the existing platform
 
enry [TotalFark]
2023-01-18 9:19:09 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: enry: The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor. It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

Great.  You invented the 2000s Prius.  Though it won't go 45 on battery alone, so there's that.

A Prius will happily run at 60+ on battery alone- I do it all the time.  A bit of a tailwind and the gas engine will shut down on the highway, at least for a mile or two

Hell, on the trip to my son's college there are places I do 60+ while recharging the battery.  (Yeah, it's just a bit hilly)

/Never been a Corvette guy, but I really wouldn't mind a hybrid C8 if someone feels like donating one.  Nice looking car


Mine is 10+ years old.  If I put it into battery-only mode it'll go like 15MPH before turning the engine on.  I'll guess that newer models have a better battery.
 
drjekel_mrhyde
2023-01-18 9:31:19 AM  
I don't see how this is bad in any farking way.
 
Glockenspiel Hero [OhFark]
2023-01-18 9:55:40 AM  

enry: Glockenspiel Hero: enry: The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor. It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

Great.  You invented the 2000s Prius.  Though it won't go 45 on battery alone, so there's that.

A Prius will happily run at 60+ on battery alone- I do it all the time.  A bit of a tailwind and the gas engine will shut down on the highway, at least for a mile or two

Hell, on the trip to my son's college there are places I do 60+ while recharging the battery.  (Yeah, it's just a bit hilly)

/Never been a Corvette guy, but I really wouldn't mind a hybrid C8 if someone feels like donating one.  Nice looking car

Mine is 10+ years old.  If I put it into battery-only mode it'll go like 15MPH before turning the engine on.  I'll guess that newer models have a better battery.


I don't know about accelerating my Gen4 the entire way on electric- I've had it up to 30+ on battery only on a level road, but I don't have a long enough space to handle the slow acceleration past that.  It could do it easily on the college trip though- a mile of 10% downhill grade will get you to 70+ without the ICE while filling the battery

The 4th gen do have a much higher ceiling on battery only but it's due to the motors- the older models can't do electric only past something like 45mph because that's the max RPM the electric motors can take.  The new ones have absurd limits, ~17k RPM.
 
Dinjiin [BareFark]
2023-01-18 10:20:11 AM  

Muta: The only reason I think this is because I was arguing that instead of the sound of an ICE, the electric cars should make to tweeting sound of the Jetson's flying car.


i3 with Jetsons Sound
Youtube 4NgSZ8sjDgU
 
raygundan
2023-01-18 10:21:55 AM  

enry: Glockenspiel Hero: enry: The 1.9 kilowatt-hour battery is small compared with a full electric vehicle. It's positioned under the console. You can't plug it in to recharge it, but it gets energy restored from regenerative braking and from the V8 motor. It can be driven in "stealth mode" up to 45 mph for a short distance to quietly leave a neighborhood, GM says.

Great.  You invented the 2000s Prius.  Though it won't go 45 on battery alone, so there's that.

A Prius will happily run at 60+ on battery alone- I do it all the time.  A bit of a tailwind and the gas engine will shut down on the highway, at least for a mile or two

Hell, on the trip to my son's college there are places I do 60+ while recharging the battery.  (Yeah, it's just a bit hilly)

/Never been a Corvette guy, but I really wouldn't mind a hybrid C8 if someone feels like donating one.  Nice looking car

Mine is 10+ years old.  If I put it into battery-only mode it'll go like 15MPH before turning the engine on.  I'll guess that newer models have a better battery.


The 2003-2008 Prius could do 34mph before turning the engine on, but you had to absolutely baby it to get there. The 2009-whatever generation (not counting the PHEV version) could get into the low 40s if memory serves.

Weirdly, it seemed easier to do that in both generations if you don't turn on the "EV mode" thing and were just gentle with the throttle.
 
TheYeti
2023-01-18 12:43:43 PM  

pheelix: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: bloobeary: It just doesn't have that corvette feel without the flip-up headlights. A balding middle aged man with a ponytail in the driver's seat.

Fixed

I would call that progress. One of the first C8's I saw up close was in a parking lot. I was expecting an older Gen Xer going through his midlife crisis to get out of the car but instead an old geezer wrestled his way out of the driver's seat and hobbled off with his dually oxygen tank in tow.


Sounds like team underpowered eurocar is here...does anyone else smell check engine lights burning?!
 
Oneiros [OhFark]
2023-01-18 2:30:57 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: bloobeary: It just doesn't have that corvette feel without the flip-up headlights. A balding middle aged man with a ponytail in the driver's seat.

Fixed


So last year, I was helping out at our local National Night Out, and the local corvette club had come.

As we're cleaning up, they're revving their engines as loud as they could, seemingly trying to outdo each other.

So I doubt they heard me shouting "I'm sorry about your penis", but a few of the people around me heard and laughed

/is a balding middle aged man with a pony tail
 
centrifugal bumblepuppy
2023-01-18 4:25:25 PM  
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The older, more expensive, slower version
 
pheelix
2023-01-18 5:15:09 PM  

baka-san: pheelix: According to C&D, the electric portion uses a 160hp motor with an open diff and brake-based torque vectoring. So in typical GM fashion they take a great idea and cheap it out in the worst possible way.  Scrap the diff and use two smaller motors up front you nitwits!

They need to be able to do this with the existing platform


Using two smaller motors and getting rid of the differential and drive shafts might actually be easier to fit into the existing platform.
 
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