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markie_farkie [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-13 3:24:46 PM  
Time for this oldie but goodie!

https://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000373.php
 
Calehedron
2023-01-13 3:30:14 PM  
I've made close to 100 gallons of Joe's Ancient Orange Mead over the years. Does that count?
 
Mangoose [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 3:53:43 PM  
I like many a natural wine. I've had some truly outstanding examples. There is, however, a touch of emperor's new clothes to the scene. You will find wine people (especially so for those ITB)that will rush to defend defective wines. No. That isn't funky earth. It's an overdose of brettanomyces. Bretty wines taste like someone just rang a horse diaper into your glass. It isn't pleasant. It isn't an acquired taste. I just assume some wine buyer committed on a whirlwind tasting tour while half in a bag and when the product showed up, they shurgged and passed the buck.

So, as in all collectible commodity industries: Caveat Emptor.
 
Exluddite [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 4:13:15 PM  
Australian Table Wine
Youtube bcM3ATkNIS8
 
shpritz
2023-01-13 4:36:25 PM  

Mangoose: I just assume some wine buyer committed on a whirlwind tasting tour while half in a bag and when the product showed up, they shurgged and passed the buck.


Wine distributors will often sell several wines as a bundle. So if the buyer wants to get his hands on some popular wines that is are high demand they'll also have to take a pallet of some crap the distributor is having a hard time getting rid of.
 
alienated
2023-01-13 5:15:40 PM  

shpritz: Mangoose: I just assume some wine buyer committed on a whirlwind tasting tour while half in a bag and when the product showed up, they shurgged and passed the buck.

Wine distributors will often sell several wines as a bundle. So if the buyer wants to get his hands on some popular wines that is are high demand they'll also have to take a pallet of some crap the distributor is having a hard time getting rid of.


Many years ago, it was 3 cases of mediocre to semi decent wine for 1 bottle of Cristal . I think it was due to the NBA all star game being in town. I think we ended up getting a full case that was sold before it was off the truck. The other wines were marked down repeatedly until they sold out.
 
FormlessOne
2023-01-13 5:53:27 PM  
So, sloppily-made white wine? Skip those steps and just give me grappa, so I don't have to pretend over a new varietal.
 
dryknife
2023-01-13 6:08:26 PM  
The terroirists have won
 
whither_apophis [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 6:45:49 PM  
The only orange wine I need

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alienated
2023-01-13 6:57:14 PM  

whither_apophis: The only orange wine I need

[liquorstore-online.com image 180x440]


this_guy_gets_it.jiffypop
 
drjekel_mrhyde
2023-01-13 7:28:53 PM  

whither_apophis: The only orange wine I need

[liquorstore-online.com image 180x440]


Reminds me of college
 
Outshined_One [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 7:45:14 PM  

Mangoose: I like many a natural wine. I've had some truly outstanding examples. There is, however, a touch of emperor's new clothes to the scene. You will find wine people (especially so for those ITB)that will rush to defend defective wines. No. That isn't funky earth. It's an overdose of brettanomyces. Bretty wines taste like someone just rang a horse diaper into your glass. It isn't pleasant. It isn't an acquired taste. I just assume some wine buyer committed on a whirlwind tasting tour while half in a bag and when the product showed up, they shurgged and passed the buck.

So, as in all collectible commodity industries: Caveat Emptor.


It reminds me a lot of the fight over Riesling and certain Alsatian/Alpine white wines. When allegedly done the "normal" way wine is made, Riesling (and those wines) tastes and smells like gasoline.  As a result of this, for many years, vineyards specializing in Rieslings and those wines take extra steps to remove those smells and flavors from the wine, instead either eliminating those notes or minimizing them so they're closer to pencil shavings or certain pungent white flowers.

There has been recent backlash against this practice and people have been trying to push those wines because "it's a true expression of the terroir." Again, they taste like and smell like gasoline. So, no. No thanks.
 
Lambskincoat [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 8:02:45 PM  

markie_farkie: Time for this oldie but goodie!

https://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000373.php


Toilet wine making is not for the faint of heart, even without the toilet. Much more fun to grow a plant.
 
natazha [BareFark]
2023-01-13 8:12:28 PM  
I do hope they aren't using actual oranges, because once the sugar has fermented what you are left with will gag a maggot.

A guy in our homebrew club tried it. The only solution is to add honey until the yeast is exhausted, then add some more honey. Orange mead is okay.
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut
2023-01-13 8:52:38 PM  

Outshined_One: Mangoose: There has been recent backlash against this practice and people have been trying to push those wines because "it's a true expression of the terroir." Again, they taste like and smell like gasoline. So, no. No thanks.


Anyone that uses that phrase seriously is just telling me it actually tastes like ass but they've stockholmed themselves into liking it - they're just looking for new cultists.  Pass
 
freetomato [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 9:55:55 PM  
In the (excellent) movie "Bottle Shock", white wine that ultimately turns out to be amazing has an off color at first. Not the same process, I'm sure, but that was my first thought. I guess the orange movie poster art stuck in my brain.

If you have not seen it, rectify that. Great movie. Alan Rickman eating KFC in a rental Pinto by the side of the road alone is worth it.
 
luna1580 [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 9:56:47 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Outshined_One: Mangoose: There has been recent backlash against this practice and people have been trying to push those wines because "it's a true expression of the terroir." Again, they taste like and smell like gasoline. So, no. No thanks.

Anyone that uses that phrase seriously is just telling me it actually tastes like ass but they've stockholmed themselves into liking it - they're just looking for new cultists.  Pass


hey now, dry rieslings taste really good!
 
freetomato [TotalFark]
2023-01-13 9:59:13 PM  
A rental Gremlin, actually.
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut
2023-01-13 10:55:04 PM  

luna1580: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Outshined_One: Mangoose: There has been recent backlash against this practice and people have been trying to push those wines because "it's a true expression of the terroir." Again, they taste like and smell like gasoline. So, no. No thanks.

Anyone that uses that phrase seriously is just telling me it actually tastes like ass but they've stockholmed themselves into liking it - they're just looking for new cultists.  Pass

hey now, dry rieslings taste really good!


You're right!  Riesling is my second god, just below Gewürztraminer.  But that doesn't change the fact that people that try to play "part of the terroir" games are usually either as outlined above, or they're trying to sell you some nonsense.  See also anything described using the words "amusing presumption."
 
aerojockey
2023-01-13 11:18:33 PM  
They just better serve it slightly chilled.

The Naked Gun 33⅓: Prison Food
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shpritz
2023-01-14 1:13:15 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Outshined_One: Mangoose: There has been recent backlash against this practice and people have been trying to push those wines because "it's a true expression of the terroir." Again, they taste like and smell like gasoline. So, no. No thanks.

Anyone that uses that phrase seriously is just telling me it actually tastes like ass but they've stockholmed themselves into liking it - they're just looking for new cultists.  Pass


A good aged German/Alsatian Riesling doesn't taste like gasoline. They have a faint gasoline smell, but they taste delicious.

Damn plebs :)
 
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu
2023-01-14 1:13:40 AM  

freetomato: In the (excellent) movie "Bottle Shock", white wine that ultimately turns out to be amazing has an off color at first. Not the same process, I'm sure, but that was my first thought. I guess the orange movie poster art stuck in my brain.

If you have not seen it, rectify that. Great movie. Alan Rickman eating KFC in a rental Pinto by the side of the road alone is worth it.


That movie flew under my radar, but we were made aware of it on a wine tour in Burgundy.  Fun movie.
 
NINEv2
2023-01-14 2:56:32 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: whither_apophis: The only orange wine I need

[liquorstore-online.com image 180x440]

Reminds me of college


It's like fentanyl. Just looking at it almost killed me.

/one of my guys used to drink bricks of the blue shiat
//with the blingbling sticker
//*shudders*
 
NINEv2
2023-01-14 2:58:25 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: luna1580: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Outshined_One: Mangoose: There has been recent backlash against this practice and people have been trying to push those wines because "it's a true expression of the terroir." Again, they taste like and smell like gasoline. So, no. No thanks.

Anyone that uses that phrase seriously is just telling me it actually tastes like ass but they've stockholmed themselves into liking it - they're just looking for new cultists.  Pass

hey now, dry rieslings taste really good!

You're right!  Riesling is my second god, just below Gewürztraminer.  But that doesn't change the fact that people that try to play "part of the terroir" games are usually either as outlined above, or they're trying to sell you some nonsense.  See also anything described using the words "amusing presumption."


They're both excellent to cook with.
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut
2023-01-14 3:55:23 AM  

NINEv2: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: luna1580: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Outshined_One: Mangoose: There has been recent backlash against this practice and people have been trying to push those wines because "it's a true expression of the terroir." Again, they taste like and smell like gasoline. So, no. No thanks.

Anyone that uses that phrase seriously is just telling me it actually tastes like ass but they've stockholmed themselves into liking it - they're just looking for new cultists.  Pass

hey now, dry rieslings taste really good!

You're right!  Riesling is my second god, just below Gewürztraminer.  But that doesn't change the fact that people that try to play "part of the terroir" games are usually either as outlined above, or they're trying to sell you some nonsense.  See also anything described using the words "amusing presumption."

They're both excellent to cook with.


I'd just end up drinking it before it went in the food
 
Bruscar
2023-01-15 1:15:50 AM  

Exluddite: [YouTube video: Australian Table Wine]


"Compared favorably to a Welsh carrot" made me laugh so hard I lost my balance and tripped over the cat.
 
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