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(Dr. Eric Topol)   New data shows the bivalent COVID vaccine outperforms expectations by greatly broadening immune response to BA.5 and the emerging XBB.1.5 variant, better 5G reception   (erictopol.substack.com) divider line
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arrogantbastich [TotalFark]
2023-01-12 9:02:03 AM  
Can't wait to see all those anti-vaxxers embrace their stupidity.

No wait, it's freedumb. Embrace their freedumb.
 
Chariset [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-12 9:19:31 AM  

arrogantbastich: Can't wait to see all those anti-vaxxers embrace their stupidity.


https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2023-01-12 10:12:25 AM  
I caught covid a week after getting my bivariant booster right before Thanksgiving.   But my symptoms were super mild, my sinus infections are worse.   Still tested positive for it, tho, up to the 14th day.
 
DON.MAC [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-12 10:19:03 AM  
Yea, that was like 6 months ago...
 
Therion [TotalFark]
2023-01-12 11:15:56 AM  
Got my bivalent shot early October. (I work in live entertainment, and NO ONE in audiences are wearing masks any more). I've started looking around to see when I should get another, but all of the articles and info I can find are still begging morans to get their "Fall booster".
 
WalkingCarpet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-12 11:31:36 AM  
Oh god, the press is having a blast with this.

I must have received at least five NY Times breaking news alerts on this subject since it broke.

"See, we're impartial journalists  BOTH SIDES"

Ugh, a terrible own goal by Biden but nowhere near as bad as Dump
 
WalkingCarpet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-12 11:32:19 AM  
Wow, that might be the worst "wrong thread" post ever.

I am shame
 
antidisestablishmentarianism
2023-01-12 12:04:21 PM  
I just got my booster last nigh, along with the flu shot. I've now had all 3 vax's so I'm treating thsi like Pokemon, gotta get 'em all!
 
Boudyro [TotalFark]
2023-01-12 12:05:37 PM  
I'm getting over the 'rona right now. Got my booster in November.

Missed Christmas with the family because of a run of the mill cold, and right as I was finishing up the cold the roomie caught COVID from an idiot at his job. Even with taking precautions and my nose still stopped up I started showing symptoms last Wednesday night. Basically had three days of body aches, and fever; as well as runny nose, and scratchy throat for the duration.

The big thing is my energy level bombed out. I was awake for most of it. I never really slept excessively, but was awake in a fog. Today is the first day my energy level feels back to normal. Still got a bit of snot and coughing up crap going on.

Roomie, who only has the first two shots had it a little worse than me: same symptoms, longer duration. He caught it at least 4 days ahead of me and we're about the same now.

Whether that's thanks to the booster and/or my immune system was already on war footing from the cold is anyone's guess.
 
Abe Vigoda's Ghost
2023-01-12 12:05:38 PM  
My 5G signal is pretty awesome after I got my bivalent BA.5 booster.

Suck it, anti vaxxers
 
Unsung_Hero
2023-01-12 12:06:11 PM  

Therion: Got my bivalent shot early October. (I work in live entertainment, and NO ONE in audiences are wearing masks any more). I've started looking around to see when I should get another, but all of the articles and info I can find are still begging morans to get their "Fall booster".


I went to a musical with a schedule popular with the grey-hair set, and mask compliance was 100%.  Well, a few of them had trouble keeping masks over their noses, but whatever.

I go shopping and it's me and maybe a couple of other people... Who are usually store employees.
 
groppet
2023-01-12 12:06:17 PM  
I got it in September and am glad to hear this, just wish my sister Dr. Karen would get her and let her kids get vaccinated. She has had covid 3 times, the last time over Christmas.
 
Nuc_E
2023-01-12 12:07:39 PM  
I've definitely had better reception.  The increased Covid immunity is just a bonus.
 
Dafatone
2023-01-12 12:08:16 PM  
I got my bivalent right away, I think September or so. Eagerly awaiting eligibility for another one.
 
foo monkey
2023-01-12 12:08:48 PM  
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/got nothin.
 
moothemagiccow
2023-01-12 12:11:01 PM  
is this the one i already have or is this new in 2023
 
Joe_diGriz [BareFark]
2023-01-12 12:12:59 PM  
Remember when the debate during the summer was over whether they should immediately release the booster that worked on Delta (which had pretty much died out by then), or wait a month and instead do the one that targeted BA.4/5?  Can you imagine the outrage (and even bigger lack of uptake) had they done the former, and then were forced to release Yet Another Booster just a few months later?
 
Rwa2play [TotalFark]
2023-01-12 12:14:18 PM  

Chariset: arrogantbastich: Can't wait to see all those anti-vaxxers embrace their stupidity.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/


This just in: there are still people out there who refuse to get the vaccine, then get deathly sick and refuse to acknowledge that COVID is killing them.

That is all.
 
antidisestablishmentarianism
2023-01-12 12:14:20 PM  

moothemagiccow: is this the one i already have or is this new in 2023


Article says September 2022, also doesn't mention Pfizer which is the one I got yesterday.
 
red230
2023-01-12 12:18:11 PM  
Now we have to convince people to continue to be vaccinated, just like with the flu. We may get to see a continuation of natural selection with those that don't get the updated vaccines.

/fully vaccinated and waiting to turn into a zombie
 
tricycleracer
2023-01-12 12:18:50 PM  
I got that shot and a flu shot on the same day.  I felt really dizzy the rest of the day.  They really shouldn't have let me do that.
 
BiffSpiffy
2023-01-12 12:20:05 PM  

Dafatone: I got my bivalent right away, I think September or so. Eagerly awaiting eligibility for another one.


Me too.  I wanna collect 'em all!
 
Autoerotic Defenestration
2023-01-12 12:22:21 PM  
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DrKillPatient [TotalFark]
2023-01-12 12:24:15 PM  
Had all 5, last in mid September. Wife and son both caught it, though nothing more than like a mild cold. Me, not even a sniffle.
 
squegeebooo
2023-01-12 12:24:36 PM  
I thought i just saw an article about the booster being no better than the original shots?  Is that a different booster?
 
ScrimBoy
2023-01-12 12:25:01 PM  

raerae1980: I caught covid a week after getting my bivariant booster right before Thanksgiving.   But my symptoms were super mild, my sinus infections are worse.   Still tested positive for it, tho, up to the 14th day.


Ditto for me.  I had the shot in November, caught it the day after Christmas.  It took 16 days before I tested negative. Low fever with mild but lingering symptoms.
 
raz4446
2023-01-12 12:28:09 PM  
at a later date my autistic brethren and sistren will reveal the powers the bivalent vaccine gave us, and you will all be like 'wow'
 
Mrtraveler01
2023-01-12 12:28:41 PM  

tricycleracer: I got that shot and a flu shot on the same day.  I felt really dizzy the rest of the day.  They really shouldn't have let me do that.


Did you get both in the same arm? I got mine at the same time and had one in each arm which the lady giving me the shots recommended. Only problem I had was feeling tired for a few days.
 
WalkingCarpet [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-12 12:29:33 PM  

Dafatone: I got my bivalent right away, I think September or so. Eagerly awaiting eligibility for another one.


Same, wondering when I should be getting another.
 
moothemagiccow
2023-01-12 12:30:09 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: moothemagiccow: is this the one i already have or is this new in 2023

Article says September 2022, also doesn't mention Pfizer which is the one I got yesterday.


Thanks, maybe they can start releasing these along with superhero movies because I remember which one of those I saw
 
squegeebooo
2023-01-12 12:31:36 PM  

squegeebooo: I thought i just saw an article about the booster being no better than the original shots?  Is that a different booster?


This is what I was thinking of
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html
 
toraque [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-12 12:32:45 PM  

Rwa2play: Chariset: arrogantbastich: Can't wait to see all those anti-vaxxers embrace their stupidity.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

This just in: there are still people out there who refuse to get the vaccine, then get deathly sick and refuse to acknowledge that COVID is killing them.

That is all.


Those people are performing a valuable service to society by dying stupidly.
 
Don't Troll Me Bro!
2023-01-12 12:33:21 PM  

Chariset: arrogantbastich: Can't wait to see all those anti-vaxxers embrace their stupidity.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/


Cubit of Cubit Zirconium and Burlap died from Covid?  How did I miss that?
 
Portkey [OhFark]
2023-01-12 12:35:38 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Article says September 2022, also doesn't mention Pfizer which is the one I got yesterday.


I got my bivalent at the end of December and I asked at my appointment whether Moderna or Pfizer was more effective for the current strains going around. I was told that Pfizer is newer and targets BA4/BA5 so I got that.

This is in Ontario so I don't know what versions you're using where you are. I figured I'd mix it up again - now I'm Pfizer-Pfizer-Moderna-Moderna-Pfizer.
 
antidisestablishmentarianism
2023-01-12 12:44:39 PM  

Portkey: antidisestablishmentarianism: Article says September 2022, also doesn't mention Pfizer which is the one I got yesterday.

I got my bivalent at the end of December and I asked at my appointment whether Moderna or Pfizer was more effective for the current strains going around. I was told that Pfizer is newer and targets BA4/BA5 so I got that.

This is in Ontario so I don't know what versions you're using where you are. I figured I'd mix it up again - now I'm Pfizer-Pfizer-Moderna-Moderna-Pfizer.


The article that squegeebooo posted says there is not data on the Pfizer jab yet (article was from yesterday).
 
AlphaG33k
2023-01-12 12:44:44 PM  
PREEXISTING CONDITIONS!

5G!!!

MY RIGHTS!!

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fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-12 12:46:08 PM  
Everyone living in my home who had already gotten the bivalent booster was spared when we had our one outbreak in mid-October. I'll keep on boosting and masking in public as long as it takes to avoid going down the long COVID rabbit hole.
 
Artist
2023-01-12 12:46:42 PM  
Grumble...grumble...gotta find that vaxx card in my purse...ok...it's two cards now...two Moderna vaxx 2021, one Moderna booster 2021, Moderna booster 2022, Pfizer booster bi-valent December 2022. I got COVID June 2022, it felt like the flu, tested and voila there it was....brain fog has taken awhile to lift, on track for the averaged six months or so to improve. Currently living in a Trumpistan area of Pennsyltennarkatucky, vaxx rates were never good. I'll keep getting innoculated, 'cause the stupid here is strong.
My great grandfather died in the 1918 Flu pandemic. My grandfather contracted Polio as a young man and spent the last half of his life in a wheel chair. To all those noobs who don't vaccinate, I am living proof that they work, given my family history.
 
AlphaG33k
2023-01-12 12:47:34 PM  
Long covid is a good thing. It will get people back to work. We need to cut medicaid, cut unemployment benfits, and claw back social security!

it's all just in their head, STFUAGBTW, lazy people.
 
bigdog1960
2023-01-12 12:47:49 PM  

Therion: Got my bivalent shot early October. (I work in live entertainment, and NO ONE in audiences are wearing masks any more). I've started looking around to see when I should get another, but all of the articles and info I can find are still begging morans to get their "Fall booster".


I got mine in that time frame will get another in March despite what guidance might be. Hopefully there will be a new formulation. I just got my second flu shot this season.
 
XanthPrime
2023-01-12 12:49:24 PM  

AlphaG33k: PREEXISTING CONDITIONS!

5G!!!

MY RIGHTS!!

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I got my COVID booster last Thursday.  Sunday I suddenly had 5G and better coverage.  It was definitely the booster and not me dropping Verizon for AT&T.
 
raygundan
2023-01-12 12:49:41 PM  

raerae1980: I caught covid a week after getting my bivariant booster right before Thanksgiving.   But my symptoms were super mild, my sinus infections are worse.   Still tested positive for it, tho, up to the 14th day.


Man, that's lousy luck... it takes a week or two for vaccine protection to ramp up, and it takes about a week after exposure for COVID symptoms to appear.  Odds are you picked it up right around the same time you got the booster, which is of course too soon for the booster to do anything much to help.

Happens a lot with the flu and flu vaccines, too... people get sick right after the shot, and then say things (not that you're doing this) like "I got the flu from the flu vaccine!" even though what it really means is "I got the flu from somewhere around the same time I got my shot but before I developed immunity by crappy coincidence."
 
Space Station Wagon
2023-01-12 12:49:45 PM  
I've been fully vaxed, work from home and regularly wear a mask.
I went to the company Xmas party and a few days later on Christmas morning the whole house woke up with xbb1.5 and it kicked out ass.
10 days of heavy symptoms.

Watch out the new variant is no joke.
 
Boudyro [TotalFark]
2023-01-12 12:50:39 PM  

tricycleracer: I got that shot and a flu shot on the same day.  I felt really dizzy the rest of the day.  They really shouldn't have let me do that.


My doc wouldn't do it even after I said I never have anything worse than a sore are after. Still made me gap them.
 
Dafatone
2023-01-12 12:52:10 PM  

squegeebooo: squegeebooo: I thought i just saw an article about the booster being no better than the original shots?  Is that a different booster?

This is what I was thinking of
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html


From what I understand, an early and not-that-conclusive study said maybe the bivalents didn't do much. That got kinda suppressed to push bivalent rollout while we waited for better data. The better data says bivalents work.

Also, the Dr. Offit referenced in that article is pretty close to an antivaxxer.
 
Andric [OhFark]
2023-01-12 12:55:11 PM  
Damn. I really need to get off my ass and get boosted again.
 
raygundan
2023-01-12 12:55:30 PM  

XanthPrime: AlphaG33k: PREEXISTING CONDITIONS!

5G!!!

MY RIGHTS!!

[Fark user image image 251x201]

I got my COVID booster last Thursday.  Sunday I suddenly had 5G and better coverage.  It was definitely the booster and not me dropping Verizon for AT&T.


You got better coverage moving from Verizon to AT&T?  I think there may have been a slip between parallel universes for you recently that you just haven't noticed yet.  How do you spell the name of the author of those children's books about the family of bears?  This is a Berenstain universe, not a Berenstein universe.
 
squegeebooo
2023-01-12 12:56:06 PM  

Dafatone: squegeebooo: squegeebooo: I thought i just saw an article about the booster being no better than the original shots?  Is that a different booster?

This is what I was thinking of
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html

From what I understand, an early and not-that-conclusive study said maybe the bivalents didn't do much. That got kinda suppressed to push bivalent rollout while we waited for better data. The better data says bivalents work.

Also, the Dr. Offit referenced in that article is pretty close to an antivaxxer.


thanks!  I've been boosted for months anyways, was just confused by the competing articles.
 
antidisestablishmentarianism
2023-01-12 12:57:59 PM  

Boudyro: tricycleracer: I got that shot and a flu shot on the same day.  I felt really dizzy the rest of the day.  They really shouldn't have let me do that.

My doc wouldn't do it even after I said I never have anything worse than a sore are after. Still made me gap them.


I feel like crap today, which is why I"m on here and not focusing on work. I shouldn't have got them at the same time, and Walgreen's will let you get up to 4 at once!
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tricycleracer
2023-01-12 1:04:28 PM  

Mrtraveler01: tricycleracer: I got that shot and a flu shot on the same day.  I felt really dizzy the rest of the day.  They really shouldn't have let me do that.

Did you get both in the same arm? I got mine at the same time and had one in each arm which the lady giving me the shots recommended. Only problem I had was feeling tired for a few days.


One in each shoulder.  I then tried to put together a gas grill while my head was spinning.
 
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