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(CNN)   Tomorrow might be a really bad day to get sick in New York City   (cnn.com) divider line
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mistahtom
2023-01-08 9:42:08 AM  
Can't blame them for striking after Covid.
 
Breaker Moran [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-08 11:11:59 AM  
Tomorrow
I think I'll be caught
Between the moon and New York City
I know it's crazy but it's true
 
Fear the Clam
2023-01-08 12:43:53 PM  
They sound naughty.
 
LarryDan43
2023-01-08 12:46:31 PM  
Maybe hire nurses and waive the need for being registered as long as they or their spouse has served in the military.
 
Notabunny [TotalFark]
2023-01-08 12:47:02 PM  
Why don't nurses want to create a lot of value for shareholders?
 
thornhill
2023-01-08 12:47:06 PM  
Don't worry. Now that Republicans control the House, we're going to repeal and replace Obama Care, and we'll have a healthcare system that's the envy of the world. Or so I've been told.
 
SR117Nighthawk
2023-01-08 12:47:30 PM  
So....when IS a good day to get sick in New York City??

/Just askin' the REAL questions here!
 
Nick Nostril
2023-01-08 12:49:02 PM  
The ERs are full to the brim around here in flyover. I'd hate to think what they're like in NYC. Then, this.

/ good luck, we're all counting on you
 
Nick Nostril
2023-01-08 12:50:19 PM  

SR117Nighthawk: So....when IS a good day to get sick in New York City??

/Just askin' the REAL questions here!


Last I checked, NYC was in America covered by American "health insurance", so the answer is: None. None days.
 
LurkLongAndProsper
2023-01-08 12:56:08 PM  
Goddamn you Joe Biden.
 
SpectroBoy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2023-01-08 1:01:37 PM  

thornhill: Don't worry. Now that Republicans control the House, we're going to repeal and replace Obama Care, and we'll have a healthcare system that's the envy of the world. Or so I've been told.


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BafflerMeal
2023-01-08 1:16:33 PM  

LarryDan43: Maybe hire nurses and waive the need for being registered as long as they or their spouse has served in the military.


What the shiat?
 
ChubbyTiger
2023-01-08 1:29:37 PM  

BafflerMeal: LarryDan43: Maybe hire nurses and waive the need for being registered as long as they or their spouse has served in the military.

What the shiat?


This the shiat.
 
Day_Old_Dutchie
2023-01-08 1:33:34 PM  

Fear the Clam: They sound naughty.


This naughty?

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RhinoCat
2023-01-08 1:37:47 PM  

BafflerMeal: LarryDan43: Maybe hire nurses and waive the need for being registered as long as they or their spouse has served in the military.

What the shiat?


I believe LarryDan43 is referencing the insane new Florida law that gives teaching licenses to veterans who are not otherwise in any way qualified.
 
stevecore
2023-01-08 1:39:29 PM  
As a fellow nurse.  Good for them. Hospitals have tried to hang the fact that were nurses and striking would be bad for patients care as a guilt trip all while cutting staff and expecting more with nothing to show for it.
 
BafflerMeal
2023-01-08 1:46:20 PM  

RhinoCat: BafflerMeal: LarryDan43: Maybe hire nurses and waive the need for being registered as long as they or their spouse has served in the military.

What the shiat?

I believe LarryDan43 is referencing the insane new Florida law that gives teaching licenses to veterans who are not otherwise in any way qualified.


Ah. Ok. Sorry, took me really off guard.

/RN
 
Bruscar
2023-01-08 1:58:54 PM  
Nurses,

There has been a nursing shortage almost my entire life due to poor pay and horrific work conditions. Don't give up on seeking increased pay, but don't stop there. Demand time and half for all healthcare providers who work more than 35 hours per week and double time for all healthcare providers who work more than 40 hours per week. Demand a minimum 10 hour break between shifts in order to guarantee that healthcare workers can commute home and sleep at least 8 hours before clocking back in. Consider how protecting your own health will help you take better care of patients with fewer medical errors. Advocate for policies accordingly.
 
ctighe2353
2023-01-08 2:00:01 PM  

SpectroBoy: thornhill: Don't worry. Now that Republicans control the House, we're going to repeal and replace Obama Care, and we'll have a healthcare system that's the envy of the world. Or so I've been told.

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Sadly this is true but only if you have $.  At 16 to 17k per month for each of my parents in their final years if you have any unprotected assets you will go broke fast.
Tip for any farker who has assets.  PUT A BENEFICIARY ON EVERYTHING.  Wills can take over a year in probate but beneficiaries get paid right away.
 
Dictatorial_Flair
2023-01-08 2:14:06 PM  

SR117Nighthawk: So....when IS a good day to get sick in New York City??

/Just askin' the REAL questions here!


Certainly not any time in the last three years or so.
 
waxbeans [TotalFark]
2023-01-08 2:18:19 PM  
I'm poor. So there is never a good time to be sick.
Also. Care is actually only  Stabilization. If you have something chronic.  Too bad they let you die. which is why when you have c19 and  have comorbidities you are SOL. They will not help you with the chronic stuff as c19 makes them speed up your eventual passing.
 
winedrinkingman
2023-01-08 2:25:20 PM  

LarryDan43: Maybe hire nurses and waive the need for being registered as long as they or their spouse has served in the military.


Why stop at nurses?  I think military veterans should be allowed to perform any job without bothering to get a degree or relative training.  For example, doctors, pilots, nuclear engineers.  I know what you are saying, but there are many veterans who are qualified to do those jobs, to which I reply, you are just being bigoted against all the veterans who were not trained to do those jobs if you are saying that a nuclear sub engineer is more qualified to work with a civilian reactor than say, a tank driver.  They both essentially do the same thing, operate large metal objects in a dangerous environment.  They should both be allowed to run a power plant.
 
Tillmaster
2023-01-08 2:27:26 PM  
I caught Covid in New York last week. Fortunately I didn't see any effects until after I got home.
Looks like I dodged the bullet on that one, eh?
 
Dictatorial_Flair
2023-01-08 2:42:05 PM  

Bruscar: Nurses,

There has been a nursing shortage almost my entire life due to poor pay and horrific work conditions. Don't give up on seeking increased pay, but don't stop there. Demand time and half for all healthcare providers who work more than 35 hours per week and double time for all healthcare providers who work more than 40 hours per week. Demand a minimum 10 hour break between shifts in order to guarantee that healthcare workers can commute home and sleep at least 8 hours before clocking back in. Consider how protecting your own health will help you take better care of patients with fewer medical errors. Advocate for policies accordingly.


The federal government should have stepped in long ago to put a stop to the kind of treatment that nurses have to deal with. It shouldn't be down to a patchwork of unions in a handful of states to try to hold national hospital corporations accountable for their bad actions.

While the pay issue is important, there are several other things that also need to be addressed like mandated minimum staffing ratios (real ones, not the "one RN and two aides is plenty for 50 nursing home patients" type) and vigorous prosecution of workplace assaults/battery by patients. The job is rough enough even when you have an adequate mix of staff for the number and acuity of patients. Trying to force nurses to do the same work with 30-50% of what they actually need is basically just killing patients on purpose so the facility can save money on staffing. I can't imagine what level of pay would make someone truly ok with having 5-6 ICU patients every time they go to work, or 12 floor patients.
 
SanityIsAFullTimeJob
2023-01-08 2:54:44 PM  
American healthcare costs are too low, so I support this.
 
Al Tsheimers
2023-01-08 4:39:59 PM  

stevecore: As a fellow nurse.  Good for them. Hospitals have tried to hang the fact that were nurses and striking would be bad for patients care as a guilt trip all while cutting staff and expecting more with nothing to show for it.


Bean counters are bad for patients. Insurance companies, hospital administrators, politicians. For-profit health care puts the customers, and the people that deliver the product, at the back of the line.
 
minorshan
2023-01-08 4:52:22 PM  

mistahtom: Can't blame them for striking after Covid.


No shiat. I had to go to hospital for non-Covid stuff about a year and a half ago and they were way understaffed with nurses. I mean, they literally had only two nurses on the ER. They were having a conversation while I was waiting for doctor (I was in the hall, which was lined with people resting on gurneys) when they bitterly joked about how "this 2 nurses to an ER experiment seems to have failed."

Nurses don't get the respect they deserve.

I was in the hospital for all of Feb 2020, right before the shiat hit the fan, and they were amazing, caring people. There's a reason I dropped off a box of chocolates and a thank you card to my nurses afterwards, but not my doctors.
 
minorshan
2023-01-08 5:23:39 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Fear the Clam: They sound naughty.

This naughty?

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austerity101
2023-01-08 5:40:02 PM  

stevecore: As a fellow nurse.  Good for them. Hospitals have tried to hang the fact that were nurses and striking would be bad for patients care as a guilt trip all while cutting staff and expecting more with nothing to show for it.


This is literally what every corporate administration does when any union tries to strike.

The counter is thus, obviously:  if it's so important that workers don't strike, then don't treat them so sh*ttily that you force them out of other viable options.
 
austerity101
2023-01-08 5:42:45 PM  

Bruscar: Nurses,

There has been a nursing shortage almost my entire life due to poor pay and horrific work conditions. Don't give up on seeking increased pay, but don't stop there. Demand time and half for all healthcare providers who work more than 35 hours per week and double time for all healthcare providers who work more than 40 hours per week. Demand a minimum 10 hour break between shifts in order to guarantee that healthcare workers can commute home and sleep at least 8 hours before clocking back in. Consider how protecting your own health will help you take better care of patients with fewer medical errors. Advocate for policies accordingly.


Not to dictate how unions should be handling things, but it does seem like this is when unions should be demanding the moon. Union workers, like everyone else, have been grossly underpaid and mistreated for generations. We shouldn't be asking for 5% raises--they should be 50% at this point. And way more paid time off. And parental leave. And cheaper (if not completely free to them!) healthcare.

But, I get it--unions can't look too demanding, or the public turns away from them. Corporations have done an excellent job of grooming the public to see any demand for better treatment as unreasonably entitled.
 
austerity101
2023-01-08 5:44:29 PM  
And to my last point, look at how consistently moderates call progressive demands for what is considered normal and taken for granted in civilized countries as "demanding ponies." It's the exact same type of gaslighting/grooming, and it stinks to high heaven.
 
HalfBankrupt
2023-01-08 6:25:03 PM  
Great first step.
Next, a general strike - everyone unionized STRIKE.
For those of us not unionized (like me), well a work slowdownworks great.
 
thrillbilly1967
2023-01-08 6:38:05 PM  
My cousin has been an RN for around 20yrs. She recently changed over to being a travel nurse. Because in her regular nursing job at a local hospital it has gotten so bad many are walking out. When she hired in there were 17 nurses working at one time in the part she worked in. Now there is only 9 and on top of that they are seeing about 30 percent overall more patients than when it was 17 nurses. She went from a 40 sometimes 50 if she wanted to pick up an extra shift to when she left she was averaging 75 to 85 hrs a week. She admitted there were times she was so tired and out of it she felt she was endangering her patients. So she quit. They offered her a 21 percent pa raise and she still walked away. Now she picks and chooses where she works etc. If she finishes out a contract its up to her how long she wants to wait and where before working again. She came off BP meds lost 37lbs and isnt such a coont to be around.
 
minorshan
2023-01-08 9:22:22 PM  

thrillbilly1967: My cousin has been an RN for around 20yrs. She recently changed over to being a travel nurse. Because in her regular nursing job at a local hospital it has gotten so bad many are walking out. When she hired in there were 17 nurses working at one time in the part she worked in. Now there is only 9 and on top of that they are seeing about 30 percent overall more patients than when it was 17 nurses. She went from a 40 sometimes 50 if she wanted to pick up an extra shift to when she left she was averaging 75 to 85 hrs a week. She admitted there were times she was so tired and out of it she felt she was endangering her patients. So she quit....


This is why I'm glad to see companies like Dispatch Health emerging out of the pandemic. I wish iat was a government public health initiative, but at least house calls are more a thing now. My elderly parents also get biannual home visits from Medicare, and the visiting nurses seem to really enjoy their job and enjoy building relationships with their patients.
 
minorshan
2023-01-08 9:25:17 PM  

austerity101: stevecore: As a fellow nurse.  Good for them. Hospitals have tried to hang the fact that were nurses and striking would be bad for patients care as a guilt trip all while cutting staff and expecting more with nothing to show for it.

This is literally what every corporate administration does when any union tries to strike.

The counter is thus, obviously:  if it's so important that workers don't strike, then don't treat them so sh*ttily that you force them out of other viable options.


What's truly insane is that we're (USA) closer to universal public wifi than public healthcare.

I guess WebMD is good enough, right?
 
ViolentEastCoastCity
2023-01-08 11:15:49 PM  
Nurses should be on shift NOT ONE MORE MINUTE than eight hours.

I most certainly do not want the nurse (or doctor) that's been there so long they can see straight.
 
ViolentEastCoastCity
2023-01-08 11:16:14 PM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: Nurses should be on shift NOT ONE MORE MINUTE than eight hours.

I most certainly do not want the nurse (or doctor) that's been there so long they can see straight.


Can't.

This phone CAN eat balls.
 
Perrybucsdad
2023-01-09 12:49:12 PM  
Being the reason most hospitals are struggling right now is due to the cost of nurses, not sure they have a whole lot of leverage.  Maybe get rid of all the travel nurses making insane money right now and go back to just using employed W2 nurses and pay them a bit more.
 
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