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(Yahoo)   NFL declares Buffalo-Cincinnati game a No Contest. Announces plan to host AFC Championship at a neutral site which is sure to be free that weekend, like Dallas   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line
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2023-01-06 12:04:03 AM  
As a Cows fan:

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/ take your link vote and go
 
2023-01-06 12:13:45 AM  
I'm sure Gillette Stadium will be free.  Maybe you'll get the extra added attraction of a Nor'easter.
 
2023-01-06 12:16:31 AM  
Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.
 
2023-01-06 12:18:57 AM  
The only answer is Vegas
 
2023-01-06 12:19:54 AM  

wooden_badger: I'm sure Gillette Stadium will be free.  Maybe you'll get the extra added attraction of a Nor'easter.


Never underestimate Darth Belichick
 
2023-01-06 12:38:31 AM  
Now watch the Chargers and Ravens have to play in Indianapolis.
 
2023-01-06 1:31:40 AM  

puffy999: Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.


Yep. Once the NFL gets a taste of something that might make money, it will magically appear in a future season.
 
2023-01-06 1:46:21 AM  
You guys realize the "neutral site" will be London if Goodell gets his way.
 
2023-01-06 2:32:10 AM  

puffy999: Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.


That, or something completely stupid like giving the top seed the choice between the bye or home field in the Conference Championship while the 2nd seed gets the home field only if the top seed chooses the bye.
 
2023-01-06 2:49:58 AM  

kudayta: You guys realize the "neutral site" will be London if Goodell gets his way.


Roger Goodell needs to take a nice long elevator ride with Ray Rice.
 
2023-01-06 3:23:53 AM  
Guys, it's only a neutral site if it involves one of the three teams directly affected by this (aka, Buffalo, Cincy and the Chiefs as they're the three fighting for positioning at the top).

Looking at it objectively, I would put Buff-Cincy's neutral site as Pittsburgh or the Factory of Sadness, and Indy would work for the other two possibilities. That way it's closer to in between the two cities so fans don't have to go too nuts getting there.

\yes, I'm aware of all the jokes that would happen if someone else played an AFCCG at the FoS before its owners did
 
2023-01-06 5:14:37 AM  
At least the refs didn't get to choose what to do.
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2023-01-06 6:22:40 AM  
Rent free
 
2023-01-06 6:34:46 AM  

FriarReb98: Guys, it's only a neutral site if it involves one of the three teams directly affected by this (aka, Buffalo, Cincy and the Chiefs as they're the three fighting for positioning at the top).

Looking at it objectively, I would put Buff-Cincy's neutral site as Pittsburgh or the Factory of Sadness, and Indy would work for the other two possibilities. That way it's closer to in between the two cities so fans don't have to go too nuts getting there.

\yes, I'm aware of all the jokes that would happen if someone else played an AFCCG at the FoS before its owners did


I assume the "redirected" revenue will be placed into the pockets of a Rooney or a Mara.

/But not Rooney Mara
 
2023-01-06 6:41:48 AM  
I have a concern as a Bills Fan. If the Bills win the Superb Owl there will always be fans of other teams who will claim the Bills win was "tainted" and fixed to make up for what happened to Damar Hamlin. Nothing like a feel good story.

Our city has gone through a hell of a year. A SB win would be nice.
 
2023-01-06 7:00:38 AM  

wrenchboy: I have a concern as a Bills Fan. If the Bills win the Superb Owl there will always be fans of other teams who will claim the Bills win was "tainted" and fixed to make up for what happened to Damar Hamlin. Nothing like a feel good story.

Our city has gone through a hell of a year. A SB win would be nice.


Yes, as a Bills fan I'm sure you're very concerned about winning a Super Bowl.

/IMO if the Bills make the AFCCG it should be in Detroit since it's already their second home for the year
 
2023-01-06 7:08:58 AM  

puffy999: Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.


Awarded to the first team in each conference eliminated from playoff contention that season.
 
2023-01-06 7:16:29 AM  

IAmRight: .Yes, as a Bills fan I'm sure you're very concerned about winning a Super Bowl.


There's posting "it's not what's important" on the internet and there's actually believing it's not important.
When faced with the choice, the ol' internet has shown us again that people lie.  Playoff seedings and sites have proven to be more important than Damar Hamlin's health.

This guy was interesting because he whipped past caring and is instead seeking unanimous adulation for his team winning a Super Bowl that won't even be played for a month.
 
2023-01-06 7:17:53 AM  
Lets see...in CFB, everything goes to Jerry's World

In the NFL...it's going to be set in Los Angeles. So if the Bills and Bengals play for the AFC then I hope their fans enjoy SoFi Stadium
 
2023-01-06 7:32:52 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: IAmRight: .Yes, as a Bills fan I'm sure you're very concerned about winning a Super Bowl.

There's posting "it's not what's important" on the internet and there's actually believing it's not important.
When faced with the choice, the ol' internet has shown us again that people lie.  Playoff seedings and sites have proven to be more important than Damar Hamlin's health.



We're football fans here, not doctors. We have very little to say about his health past "I sure hope he recovers OK". So we talk about football instead. It's not like debating about the other stuff stops him from getting better.
 
2023-01-06 7:47:49 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: IAmRight: .Yes, as a Bills fan I'm sure you're very concerned about winning a Super Bowl.

There's posting "it's not what's important" on the internet and there's actually believing it's not important.
When faced with the choice, the ol' internet has shown us again that people lie.  Playoff seedings and sites have proven to be more important than Damar Hamlin's health.

This guy was interesting because he whipped past caring and is instead seeking unanimous adulation for his team winning a Super Bowl that won't even be played for a month.


At this point it's not a zero sum game, coming up with and being interested in a solution to playoff seedlings and sites is not going have a negative impact on Hamlin's health.

I'm a Bills fan. Do I think it would be unfair if KC gets homefield for the conference championship? Yes. Am I upset? NO! This whole situation is unfair; to Hamlin, and nothing is going to change that. If the NFL can come up a less unfair solution for seeding, great.

Do I want the Bills to win the Super Bowl this year? Yes, but not in the way I did a week ago. As a fan you really are rooting for you team to win for you, right now I want the team to win for themselves. If they don't, I' ll be disappointed for them.
 
2023-01-06 7:53:57 AM  
Seems to be a decent solution. Simple too.
 
2023-01-06 7:57:00 AM  
Don't think a lot of people will b*tch about this and that's saying something.
 
2023-01-06 7:57:03 AM  
Also hey, haters will literally always find some reason to discount others' success, there's no point in worrying about it, Bills fans.

/I'd be a little more sympathetic if the Bengals weren't absolutely WORKING the Bills defense to that point
 
2023-01-06 7:57:09 AM  
Folks, there's one stadium you can always count on being empty come playoff time, and that's Cleveland.
 
2023-01-06 8:02:13 AM  
There's just one problem to this solution: it's a complete change to the rule book. The NFL has already written policies for how to handle a game being cancelled for an unusual circumstance such as Monday. The policy is this: the standings are set by win percentage. There's no talk about neutral site games or coin flips or any of the other crap they're talking about doing. The standings are set by win percentage, that's it.

The owners are going to vote on it today and they should reject it.
 
2023-01-06 8:12:16 AM  

desertgeek: There's just one problem to this solution: it's a complete change to the rule book. The NFL has already written policies for how to handle a game being cancelled for an unusual circumstance such as Monday. The policy is this: the standings are set by win percentage. There's no talk about neutral site games or coin flips or any of the other crap they're talking about doing. The standings are set by win percentage, that's it.

The owners are going to vote on it today and they should reject it.


Why? They aren't just doing it. They're voting on it. Why is it so terrible to change a rule that doesn't work for the circumstances?

I genuinely don't understand people who hold rules or laws so sacred that they can't be modified ever.
 
2023-01-06 8:15:40 AM  

The Third Man: puffy999: Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.

Yep. Once the NFL gets a taste of something that might make money, it will magically appear in a future season.


How would a neutral site Conference Championship bring in more money than the game being played at the site of the team with the better record?  Would the owner of the team that would have won home field advantage with all the concession and parking revenue (the frosting on the revenue cake) want to give up all that money?

Why would a Buffalo / Cinci championship game played in Jacksonville make more money than if it were played in one of the two home venues?
 
2023-01-06 8:16:16 AM  

OdradekRex: Folks, there's one stadium you can always count on being empty come playoff time, and that's Cleveland.


I hear their massage room is busy 24/7/365
 
2023-01-06 8:27:31 AM  

Muta: The Third Man: puffy999: Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.

Yep. Once the NFL gets a taste of something that might make money, it will magically appear in a future season.

How would a neutral site Conference Championship bring in more money than the game being played at the site of the team with the better record?  Would the owner of the team that would have won home field advantage with all the concession and parking revenue (the frosting on the revenue cake) want to give up all that money?

Why would a Buffalo / Cinci championship game played in Jacksonville make more money than if it were played in one of the two home venues?


I think the idea behind saying it is that the money would be going directly to the NFL rather than to the hosting team. I don't know how valid that assumption is on either end.
 
2023-01-06 8:30:03 AM  

cfreak: desertgeek: There's just one problem to this solution: it's a complete change to the rule book. The NFL has already written policies for how to handle a game being cancelled for an unusual circumstance such as Monday. The policy is this: the standings are set by win percentage. There's no talk about neutral site games or coin flips or any of the other crap they're talking about doing. The standings are set by win percentage, that's it.

The owners are going to vote on it today and they should reject it.

Why? They aren't just doing it. They're voting on it. Why is it so terrible to change a rule that doesn't work for the circumstances?

I genuinely don't understand people who hold rules or laws so sacred that they can't be modified ever.


I'm not saying rules can't be modified. I'm saying rules shouldn't be changed during the season.

Imagine this: remember a couple of years ago when they allowed pass interference to be reviewed? It was pretty obvious early on that it wasn't working. What if the league voted before Week 8 of that season to drop it and not allow PI to go to instant replay. Would that be fair?

If they want to change the policy after the season, then by all means do it. But changing the rules one day before the final weekend of games begins just isn't right.
 
2023-01-06 8:33:54 AM  

RminusQ: Muta: The Third Man: puffy999: Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.

Yep. Once the NFL gets a taste of something that might make money, it will magically appear in a future season.

How would a neutral site Conference Championship bring in more money than the game being played at the site of the team with the better record?  Would the owner of the team that would have won home field advantage with all the concession and parking revenue (the frosting on the revenue cake) want to give up all that money?

Why would a Buffalo / Cinci championship game played in Jacksonville make more money than if it were played in one of the two home venues?

I think the idea behind saying it is that the money would be going directly to the NFL rather than to the hosting team. I don't know how valid that assumption is on either end.


If you have it planned in advance each year, the NFL can also get hotel subsidies, additional sponsorships, incentives from governments, use it as a bargaining tool, etc.
 
2023-01-06 8:35:07 AM  

desertgeek: cfreak: desertgeek: There's just one problem to this solution: it's a complete change to the rule book. The NFL has already written policies for how to handle a game being cancelled for an unusual circumstance such as Monday. The policy is this: the standings are set by win percentage. There's no talk about neutral site games or coin flips or any of the other crap they're talking about doing. The standings are set by win percentage, that's it.

The owners are going to vote on it today and they should reject it.

Why? They aren't just doing it. They're voting on it. Why is it so terrible to change a rule that doesn't work for the circumstances?

I genuinely don't understand people who hold rules or laws so sacred that they can't be modified ever.

I'm not saying rules can't be modified. I'm saying rules shouldn't be changed during the season.

Imagine this: remember a couple of years ago when they allowed pass interference to be reviewed? It was pretty obvious early on that it wasn't working. What if the league voted before Week 8 of that season to drop it and not allow PI to go to instant replay. Would that be fair?

If they want to change the policy after the season, then by all means do it. But changing the rules one day before the final weekend of games begins just isn't right.


Why not modify it when it will actually be relevant to whatever it's intended to remedy?
 
2023-01-06 8:36:15 AM  
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2023-01-06 8:37:02 AM  
Muta: The Third Man: puffy999: Congratulations on neutral site AFC and NFC title games down after the next CBA.

Yep. Once the NFL gets a taste of something that might make money, it will magically appear in a future season.

How would a neutral site Conference Championship bring in more money than the game being played at the site of the team with the better record?  Would the owner of the team that would have won home field advantage with all the concession and parking revenue (the frosting on the revenue cake) want to give up all that money?

Why would a Buffalo / Cinci championship game played in Jacksonville make more money than if it were played in one of the two home venues?

A) You find a neutral site based solely on the amount of people you can pack in. If the NFL could figure out how to negotiate a deal with North Korea without the NFL people going to jail, they would be holding the occasional game in the 150000 seat stadium they have.

B) And yeah, there's going to be quite a bit of drooling and jockeying for the right of a neutral site just for all of the personal free concession/parking/incidental income of a game that doesn't involve your team.

C) The possibility of using this as a feeler for having  ALL future playoff games played at neutral "warm weather" stadiums is at play here. The NFL loves their 43-38 high scoring and you don't get that in winter games with team slogging it out in frozen mud.   If the Super Bowl does this, there's no reason why we should adhere to home team advantages  for the playoffs, which are just as important.
 
2023-01-06 8:39:30 AM  

desertgeek: cfreak: desertgeek: There's just one problem to this solution: it's a complete change to the rule book. The NFL has already written policies for how to handle a game being cancelled for an unusual circumstance such as Monday. The policy is this: the standings are set by win percentage. There's no talk about neutral site games or coin flips or any of the other crap they're talking about doing. The standings are set by win percentage, that's it.

The owners are going to vote on it today and they should reject it.

Why? They aren't just doing it. They're voting on it. Why is it so terrible to change a rule that doesn't work for the circumstances?

I genuinely don't understand people who hold rules or laws so sacred that they can't be modified ever.

I'm not saying rules can't be modified. I'm saying rules shouldn't be changed during the season.

Imagine this: remember a couple of years ago when they allowed pass interference to be reviewed? It was pretty obvious early on that it wasn't working. What if the league voted before Week 8 of that season to drop it and not allow PI to go to instant replay. Would that be fair?

If they want to change the policy after the season, then by all means do it. But changing the rules one day before the final weekend of games begins just isn't right.


If a rule is unfair then it should be changed as quickly as it can. You're arguing more harm should come because someone was already harmed and if we can't harm everyone equally then it's not fair!

And that doesn't even apply in this situation because no one else is affected and the rule change makes it more fair to all of them.
 
2023-01-06 8:39:51 AM  

cfreak: I genuinely don't understand people who hold rules or laws so sacred that they can't be modified ever.


*That Guy* from the local D&D group who's memorized every single word of every single rulebook from every single edition wants to enter the chat to tell you why, in detail, not adhering to the written rules, down to the apostrophe, means that you're intentionally disrespecting the game.
 
2023-01-06 8:43:25 AM  

Joe_diGriz: cfreak: I genuinely don't understand people who hold rules or laws so sacred that they can't be modified ever.

*That Guy* from the local D&D group who's memorized every single word of every single rulebook from every single edition wants to enter the chat to tell you why, in detail, not adhering to the written rules, down to the apostrophe, means that you're intentionally disrespecting the game.


Yeah those guys show up in the pol tab too.

"We can't cure cancer because it wouldn't be fair to those who died of it!"
 
2023-01-06 8:46:27 AM  
Playoff Tiebreaker
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2023-01-06 9:07:11 AM  
If it hasn't been said yet how about europe?
/ok ok i'm leaving.
 
2023-01-06 9:13:46 AM  

desertgeek: If they want to change the policy after the season, then by all means do it. But changing the rules one day before the final weekend of games begins just isn't right.


Old Bills and Bengals fans laugh in your direction.  Do a quick Google history lesson on the No Huddle Offense
 
2023-01-06 9:18:51 AM  

FriarReb98: Guys, it's only a neutral site if it involves one of the three teams directly affected by this (aka, Buffalo, Cincy and the Chiefs as they're the three fighting for positioning at the top).


So odds are it's going to be a neutral site
 
2023-01-06 9:44:25 AM  
All three teams are cold weather teams who play outside. Basically they could put it anywhere and be fair. Nashville seems like the best place geography wise or Pittsburg if it's the Bills and Bengals.
 
2023-01-06 9:49:06 AM  
The Bengals looked very good in that suspended game and probably would have won. If the Bengals win in week 18 and the Chiefs lose they would be the 1st seed with the bye. No mention of byes in that article.
 
2023-01-06 10:03:39 AM  
Arizonan here. We're not using our stadium until the Super Bowl. Y'all can have it.
 
2023-01-06 10:07:58 AM  

Ass_Master_Flash: The only answer is Vegas


They should have the Super Bowl in Vegas every year. It's the perfect venue. They are built for that kind of traffic, they have all the hotel space, tons of non Super Bowl things to do throughout the week, and there's no chance of a team having home field advantage.
 
2023-01-06 10:08:10 AM  
Bengals are giving refunds to ticket holders for Monday night's game, so that's money out of the organization's pocket.

Bengals may now lose out on a home playoff game despite being division champs, so that's more money out of the organization's pocket.

The owners will be fine, but the organization has a lot of bills coming due soon so not ideal.
 
2023-01-06 10:10:24 AM  

NKURyan: Bengals are giving refunds to ticket holders for Monday night's game, so that's money out of the organization's pocket.

Bengals may now lose out on a home playoff game despite being division champs, so that's more money out of the organization's pocket.

The owners will be fine, but the organization has a lot of bills coming due soon so not ideal.


Counterpoint, a man almost died on the field.
 
2023-01-06 10:11:49 AM  
Cool, now declare Carolina-New Orleans no contest too.
 
2023-01-06 10:20:43 AM  
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