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2023-01-05 1:20:35 PM  
Nice headline, subby.
 
2023-01-05 2:04:51 PM  
Great news. I'm optimistic that being young and in super shape will bring about a quick recovery.
 
2023-01-05 2:05:43 PM  
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2023-01-05 2:34:50 PM  
Can you imagine -- one second you are standing on the field thinking you made a great hit and the next thing you know you're in a hospital bed on an incubator and thinking WTF?

/assuming he even remembers what happened
//good he is doing better
 
2023-01-05 2:37:11 PM  

damageddude: incubator


VENTILATOR!!!

/hate auto-correct
 
2023-01-05 2:43:37 PM  
Outstanding news. Not much else to say.
 
2023-01-05 3:15:01 PM  
"Did we win?"

No, son. No we didn't. And it's your fault, actually.

/glad he's awake, I didn't have much hope after that ordeal.
 
2023-01-05 3:27:49 PM  
"Did we win"

'scuse me, I've got something in my eye.  This kid, man.
 
2023-01-05 3:28:28 PM  
Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.
 
2023-01-05 3:28:37 PM  
Yaaaaaaaa
 
2023-01-05 3:29:17 PM  

phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.


Wait...people think CPR is bad???
 
2023-01-05 3:30:32 PM  

phimuskapsi: [Fark user image image 551x124]
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I was talking about this with a coworker. He said that one of the first things he was going to ask is if they won the game.
 
2023-01-05 3:31:50 PM  
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2023-01-05 3:32:52 PM  

Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???


It's bad from the perspective of you're going to end up with many broken ribs if it's done correctly. Of course, that outweighs the benefit of not dying or being a vegetable.
 
2023-01-05 3:33:25 PM  

Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???


In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.
 
2023-01-05 3:35:14 PM  

HeathenHealer: Outstanding news. Not much else to say.


How about...he might walk out of this and be restored to the health he had before all of this.

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2023-01-05 3:37:14 PM  

phimuskapsi: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.


There's a lot of people in this country and the world, there will always be morons who believe dumbass stuff like this.  Hell some people even believe Matt Stafford is a HOFer.  Dummies.
 
2023-01-05 3:37:47 PM  
That's great news and I'm glad to hear he's slowly recovering. But this whole episode really got me thinking: this sort of thing happens to normal people everyday. Heart attacks, strokes, aneurysms, at any moment any one of us is liable to be the one unconscious on the floor. He's lucky it happened on national TV, all things considered, and not privately in his own home where he likely would've died without the quick medical assistance he got. It really sort of makes you start staring off blankly into space contemplating your life.

And that's not even getting into how much it'd cost the average person to recover from this is terms of medical bills. It's a shuddering, sober realization all over.
 
2023-01-05 3:39:26 PM  

phimuskapsi: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.


CPR has a terrible success rate in large part because it's almost impossible to do correctly.  As mentioned, you're going to be using enough force to break ribs and you have to keep it up continuously.  Last time I took a CPR class I tried to use the correct amount of force and I couldn't do it for more than a minute- it's utterly exhausting.  If someone dropped over here there's no way I could keep it up long enough for an ambulance to get here and the hospital is only ~5 minutes away.

But get enough strong, trained people to do it in shifts and it works.
 
2023-01-05 3:42:52 PM  
Amazing, heartwarming news! I hope that we can learn more about the individuals who, on the field, saved Damar Hamlin's life.
 
2023-01-05 3:49:10 PM  
Glad to hear he's doing better and I hope his road to recovery is short and smooth.
 
2023-01-05 3:50:50 PM  

Best in this World: Amazing, heartwarming news! I hope that we can learn more about the individuals who, on the field, saved Damar Hamlin's life.


Head  trainer is originally from Oklahoma per the news reports down here and has been credited with doing the initial CPR, not sure if he did it the whole time.

/Trainers and other medical type of folks bounce around to various teams during their careers.  Colleague's Son-In-Law is a trainer for MBL, Washington I think, lives close to the team during the season but here the rest of the year.
//Great news
///Go Bills!
 
2023-01-05 3:50:59 PM  

Best in this World: Amazing, heartwarming news! I hope that we can learn more about the individuals who, on the field, saved Damar Hamlin's life.


Now that it appears Damar is headed for a positive outcome, I absolutely want to read a book about that night and these intervening days, at some point.

/Bills fan, STH
 
2023-01-05 3:51:07 PM  

phimuskapsi: HeathenHealer: Outstanding news. Not much else to say.

How about...he might walk out of this and be restored to the health he had before all of this.

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The Buffalo News had a story earlier this week about a Lewiston native and current Iona University baseball player who suffered commotio cordis after being hit in the chest during practice October 27th.  He was hospitalized for a week, 3 days on a ventilator, and yet was cleared to play ball after the school's Thanksgiving break.  It wouls be great if Damar makes this kind of recovery.

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/lewiston-natives-heart-stopped-while-playing-college-baseball-hes-making-a-full-recovery/article_f4bd5c12-8baf-11ed-b59c-7fb841b8ca04.html

/hopefully not paywalled, the Buffalo News has been having problems the last few days
//link works in incognito mode for me
 
2023-01-05 3:51:29 PM  

dark brew: phimuskapsi: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.

There's a lot of people in this country and the world, there will always be morons who believe dumbass stuff like this.  Hell some people even believe Matt Stafford is a HOFer.  Dummies.


Let's be fair, the Lions haven't had a lot of great QB play, Stafford looks like a HOFer to them
 
2023-01-05 3:51:48 PM  

Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???


If I remember from my first aid courses the chances of survival with CPR alone is less than 20%, goes up to >80% with CPR+AED. That said, when it comes to life or death, I'll take the 20% if it's the only option.
 
2023-01-05 3:51:52 PM  

xtalman: Best in this World: Amazing, heartwarming news! I hope that we can learn more about the individuals who, on the field, saved Damar Hamlin's life.

Head  trainer is originally from Oklahoma per the news reports down here and has been credited with doing the initial CPR, not sure if he did it the whole time.

/Trainers and other medical type of folks bounce around to various teams during their careers.  Colleague's Son-In-Law is a trainer for MBL, Washington I think, lives close to the team during the season but here the rest of the year.
//Great news
///Go Bills!


MLB not MBL  what ever that could be.
 
2023-01-05 3:52:52 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: phimuskapsi: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.

CPR has a terrible success rate in large part because it's almost impossible to do correctly.  As mentioned, you're going to be using enough force to break ribs and you have to keep it up continuously.  Last time I took a CPR class I tried to use the correct amount of force and I couldn't do it for more than a minute- it's utterly exhausting.  If someone dropped over here there's no way I could keep it up long enough for an ambulance to get here and the hospital is only ~5 minutes away.

But get enough strong, trained people to do it in shifts and it works.


Overall resuscitation rates are low because not even Magnus ver Magnusson pumping on the chest of a person in asystole is going to have a good outcome.  However for patients whose initial rhythm is ventricular fibrillation or ventricular tachycardia, you'll find a 30-60% hospital discharge rate depending upon the area (in the US Seattle is typically the highest).  High quality CPR is the best, of course, but even poor to adequate CPR can prolong v-fib in a cardiac arrest patient, so any amount of CPR is crucial to the outcome.  An you don't have to be strong or trained to provide adequate CPR.
 
2023-01-05 3:57:24 PM  

Best in this World: Amazing, heartwarming news! I hope that we can learn more about the individuals who, on the field, saved Damar Hamlin's life.


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"A huge difference-maker" is where it gets cut off.
 
2023-01-05 4:00:24 PM  
By the by:

Cincy Shirts is making 3 shirts for Damar, 100% of proceeds to charity:
https://cincyshirts.com/collections/pr3y-for-damar

I bought the kneeling one.

Also, Fanatics is donating proceeds for Hamlin jerseys:
https://www.fanatics.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/damar-hamlin-jerseys/o-4627+t-14482467+a-345319979+d-0153+z-9-1783102166

They don't mention it here, but they have publicly.
 
2023-01-05 4:04:05 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Last time I took a CPR class I tried to use the correct amount of force and I couldn't do it for more than a minute- it's utterly exhausting.


Was this your class?

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2023-01-05 4:08:20 PM  

Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???


Same group of people that think getting a vaccine for COVID is bad.
 
2023-01-05 4:09:53 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: phimuskapsi: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.

CPR has a terrible success rate in large part because it's almost impossible to do correctly.  As mentioned, you're going to be using enough force to break ribs and you have to keep it up continuously.  Last time I took a CPR class I tried to use the correct amount of force and I couldn't do it for more than a minute- it's utterly exhausting.  If someone dropped over here there's no way I could keep it up long enough for an ambulance to get here and the hospital is only ~5 minutes away.

But get enough strong, trained people to do it in shifts and it works.


It has a terrible success rate because you are starting with a dead body.  It's not like you start CPR on someone a with a light cough and they suddenly die.  Something terrible has already happened to a person and made them dead.  CPR has the ability to make them slightly less dead for the time it takes for trained medical professionals to arrive.  Broken ribs and slightly less dead is better than intact ribs and all dead.
 
2023-01-05 4:16:43 PM  

phimuskapsi: Best in this World: Amazing, heartwarming news! I hope that we can learn more about the individuals who, on the field, saved Damar Hamlin's life.

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"A huge difference-maker" is where it gets cut off.


That's just awesome, thanks for sharing. I hope there is a lifelong bond between he and Hamlin. CPR, sustained long enough to keep someone alive, is TOUGH to perform correctly.
 
2023-01-05 4:17:16 PM  

Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???


Maybe they're just saying that it's possible to get cracked ribs? Otherwise, I don't know.
 
2023-01-05 4:21:22 PM  

Mikey1969: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

Maybe they're just saying that it's possible to get cracked ribs? Otherwise, I don't know.


In very extreme cases you can puncture lungs and cause internal bleeding with the ribs. Do it anyway. 

PS - To those that are worried about exhaustion, your body position should be your chest over theirs and your hands under you so you can use your body weight and not just your muscles - because yeah, a 30-45 degree angle push is both not going to work right and be far more exhausting. That being said, you really want at least 2 people to do it, so you can take breaks. 

I'm not sure if they even recommend breaths anymore, just compressions IIRC. They've changed it a few times since I was certified.
 
2023-01-05 4:22:24 PM  

RogermcAllen: Glockenspiel Hero: phimuskapsi: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.

CPR has a terrible success rate in large part because it's almost impossible to do correctly.  As mentioned, you're going to be using enough force to break ribs and you have to keep it up continuously.  Last time I took a CPR class I tried to use the correct amount of force and I couldn't do it for more than a minute- it's utterly exhausting.  If someone dropped over here there's no way I could keep it up long enough for an ambulance to get here and the hospital is only ~5 minutes away.

But get enough strong, trained people to do it in shifts and it works.

It has a terrible success rate because you are starting with a dead body.  It's not like you start CPR on someone a with a light cough and they suddenly die.  Something terrible has already happened to a person and made them dead.  CPR has the ability to make them slightly less dead for the time it takes for trained medical professionals to arrive.  Broken ribs and slightly less dead is better than intact ribs and all dead.


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2023-01-05 4:28:48 PM  
That is freaking awesome!!!!!
And kudos to the Bills on field medical staff!

/the anti-CPR Farkers should maybe reconsider their farked up viewpoint
 
2023-01-05 4:34:22 PM  
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2023-01-05 4:34:54 PM  

phimuskapsi: Mikey1969: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

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Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

Maybe they're just saying that it's possible to get cracked ribs? Otherwise, I don't know.

In very extreme cases you can puncture lungs and cause internal bleeding with the ribs. Do it anyway. 

PS - To those that are worried about exhaustion, your body position should be your chest over theirs and your hands under you so you can use your body weight and not just your muscles - because yeah, a 30-45 degree angle push is both not going to work right and be far more exhausting. That being said, you really want at least 2 people to do it, so you can take breaks. 

I'm not sure if they even recommend breaths anymore, just compressions IIRC. They've changed it a few times since I was certified.


The last time I took a course it was just compressions, but that was 4 or 5 years ago and it changes frequently.
 
2023-01-05 4:38:48 PM  

Ethertap: phimuskapsi: Mikey1969: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

Maybe they're just saying that it's possible to get cracked ribs? Otherwise, I don't know.

In very extreme cases you can puncture lungs and cause internal bleeding with the ribs. Do it anyway. 

PS - To those that are worried about exhaustion, your body position should be your chest over theirs and your hands under you so you can use your body weight and not just your muscles - because yeah, a 30-45 degree angle push is both not going to work right and be far more exhausting. That being said, you really want at least 2 people to do it, so you can take breaks. 

I'm not sure if they even recommend breaths anymore, just compressions IIRC. They've changed it a few times since I was certified.

The last time I took a course it was just compressions, but that was 4 or 5 years ago and it changes frequently.


For adults.  Infants, young children and debbie drowners still need that sweet mouth to mouth action.
 
2023-01-05 4:46:21 PM  

phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.


I was going to submit this with a headline about the benefits of immediate CPR but thought that might be a bit too trolly.
 
2023-01-05 4:50:31 PM  
Just leaving this here, remember Staying Alive
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2023-01-05 4:52:35 PM  
Hamlin is going to get a huge surprise when he learns that his modest $2,500 toy drive is at $7.5 million.
 
2023-01-05 5:03:47 PM  

dark brew: phimuskapsi: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

In the initial thread (which seems like ages ago now) people were suggesting that because CPR frequently has secondary effects (like broken ribs or worse) that it has no use.

There's a lot of people in this country and the world, there will always be morons who believe dumbass stuff like this.  Hell some people even believe Matt Stafford is a HOFer.  Dummies.


If Eli Manning is, Stafford certainly should be.

//Stafford probably not
///Eli def not
 
2023-01-05 5:11:06 PM  
It's selfish. But I'm so glad I didn't see someone die on the field
 
2023-01-05 5:17:43 PM  
When he finally recovers hes gonna be the new Santa Claus spending the millions in his go fund me to give toys to children
 
2023-01-05 5:24:07 PM  

Summoner101: [Fark user image 425x425]


I would hate to be the person who has to tell him that his team did not win the game because the league cancelled or postponed it.   This athlete reacted the way any pro athlete would, and we are better for it.

also:

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2023-01-05 5:38:27 PM  

dark brew: Ethertap: phimuskapsi: Mikey1969: Cokezeroinacan: phimuskapsi: Oh and for those that were like "CPR IS BAD!"

[Fark user image image 536x114]

Nah. Not so much when done by a pro.

Wait...people think CPR is bad???

Maybe they're just saying that it's possible to get cracked ribs? Otherwise, I don't know.

In very extreme cases you can puncture lungs and cause internal bleeding with the ribs. Do it anyway. 

PS - To those that are worried about exhaustion, your body position should be your chest over theirs and your hands under you so you can use your body weight and not just your muscles - because yeah, a 30-45 degree angle push is both not going to work right and be far more exhausting. That being said, you really want at least 2 people to do it, so you can take breaks. 

I'm not sure if they even recommend breaths anymore, just compressions IIRC. They've changed it a few times since I was certified.

The last time I took a course it was just compressions, but that was 4 or 5 years ago and it changes frequently.

For adults.  Infants, young children and debbie drowners still need that sweet mouth to mouth action.


The vast majority of chest compressions are done at the incorrect rate, depth, or both. This is true in a trauma center, an ICU, the back of an ambulance, etc... Bystander CPR is so bad that they recommend compressions-only as a way to increase the quality.  Every time you move your hands off the chest you risk in correct placement.

Well executed CPR is the #1 determinant in coming out on the other side neurologically intact.

Push harder.  Push faster.
 
2023-01-05 5:41:05 PM  
By the way, to all fans of all teams: 

The donations continue to roll in from everyone and everywhere. Thank you for supporting our guy.

It's about to break $7.5 million.
 
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