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(Politicus USA)   All aboard Katie Porter's plan to hold airlines accountable   (politicususa.com) divider line
    More: Spiffy, Airline, Southwest Airlines, Rep. Katie Porter, Poor regulation, Southwest Airlines passengers, Reform movement, airline industry, Avianca  
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2062 clicks; posted to Politics » on 30 Dec 2022 at 4:25 AM (12 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-12-30 4:39:04 AM  
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Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate
 
2022-12-30 4:45:04 AM  
At least 50% of the increased fine needs to go to the person who has been inconvenienced / dicked around.
 
2022-12-30 4:48:09 AM  

YakBoy42: [Fark user image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate


how much did putin pay you to point this out eeyore?
 
2022-12-30 5:05:08 AM  
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2022-12-30 5:12:32 AM  
Maybe deregulating the airlines was a bad idea? I dunno.
 
2022-12-30 5:13:23 AM  

YakBoy42: [Fark user image image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate


That's a pretty nominal contribution
contribution.
 
2022-12-30 5:13:57 AM  
It's politicus, so nah.
 
2022-12-30 5:30:21 AM  
Great, someone else from Harvard Law that will save the world

/I do like her
//Just amazed at how many people in gov't are from Harvard and other Ivy's
 
433 [TotalFark]
2022-12-30 5:33:11 AM  
On the side, had something happened to PoliticsUSA in recent times that has made their site so obnoxious to try and read on either mobile or laptop?

No one's airline bill is anything more than a token.  A bill won't do it, it will be both case law and a cobbled slew of weaker bills.  The last time you went up against authority and they won is their benchmark, so if you want to be spendy, you'll have to get an insurance company in there to argue for you.  And good luck with that.

I kinda don't think airlines should be responsible for weather.  I don't think they should be responsible for rescheduling either, with the exception of a total lack of people available to assist you.  Stranded sucks, they really should have a steward/stewardess for that.
 
2022-12-30 5:49:52 AM  

433: On the side, had something happened to PoliticsUSA in recent times that has made their site so obnoxious to try and read on either mobile or laptop?

No one's airline bill is anything more than a token.  A bill won't do it, it will be both case law and a cobbled slew of weaker bills.  The last time you went up against authority and they won is their benchmark, so if you want to be spendy, you'll have to get an insurance company in there to argue for you.  And good luck with that.

I kinda don't think airlines should be responsible for weather.  I don't think they should be responsible for rescheduling either, with the exception of a total lack of people available to assist you.  Stranded sucks, they really should have a steward/stewardess for that.


Or both if that's what you're into.
 
2022-12-30 6:18:01 AM  
Trains in Japan and China are really nice...and China's only now developing its air travel infrastructure that the US has democratized (made cheaper) over the last 70 years. Bot air and rail make sense in the US and China. Their geographic size are comparable.

In ten years, China's mass transit options will be both air and rail and affordable, efficient and green. Their modern railways are typically elevated and the imminent domain/authoritarian governance required to build them is a policy challenge the US can realize and address, or not...

It's not a secret or unsolvable riddle that nations to first develop engineer solutions that age, and developing nations can be informed by these first applications and benefit from what's learned from iteration. That's part of the promise of liberalism (political philosophy liberalism) and free/fair trade and governance with transparent mechanism...

The last US rail projects on the coast have failed to not devolve into boondoggles and political "will" in the US has been tricky since WWII.

But as I've asserted in another thread, energy and transportation are rapidly addressing the same technologies and it's obvious, so much so that a certain idiot has addressed it.

Mass transit, many engineering solutions that serve large populations, are not always and simply solved by a "marketplace".
 
2022-12-30 6:31:05 AM  

YakBoy42: [Fark user image image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate


Man, I wonder why senators in states with major airline hubs would receive money from them. Quite the head-scratcher.
 
2022-12-30 7:33:41 AM  

YakBoy42: [Fark user image image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate


What do you believe these numbers represent?
 
2022-12-30 7:49:36 AM  

YakBoy42: [Fark user image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate


Those small numbers aren't nearly enough for the reps to stay bought.
 
2022-12-30 8:06:34 AM  
Going after the "airline" is just a cost of doing business.  Holding the board members of these airlines personally responsible financially might actually encourage them to fix stuff.
 
2022-12-30 8:18:46 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Maybe deregulating the airlines was a bad idea? I dunno.


just one more atrocity that Jimmy Carter has to answer for?

First FISA and then this?   This man was a menace.   Worst president ever amirite?
 
2022-12-30 9:33:04 AM  
Tell us Porter how you know nothing about he insane complexity and cost of trying to keep an airline operating. Their problem is that they have to be good (safe). Now you have to spend the rest of between fast and cheap.
 
2022-12-30 9:39:48 AM  

tfresh: Tell us Porter how you know nothing about he insane complexity and cost of trying to keep an airline operating. Their problem is that they have to be good (safe). Now you have to spend the rest of between fast and cheap.


How come other airlines didn't leave passengers stranded for days upon days? Only Southwest.

I don't know why I'm wasting my time, though. Go gobble more corporate cock, it's the only action a Fat Farker is gonna get.
 
2022-12-30 9:45:07 AM  

tfresh: Tell us Porter how you know nothing about he insane complexity and cost of trying to keep an airline operating. Their problem is that they have to be good (safe). Now you have to spend the rest of between fast and cheap.


For less than the cost of the board's bonuses for one year they could have totally revamped the software that they have willfully neglected to update for years knowing full well that it was completely obsolete and a ticking time bomb.

This whole thing should have been avoided but the moronic MBAs in charge wanted those fat bonuses instead.
 
2022-12-30 9:46:02 AM  

Ker_Thwap: YakBoy42: [Fark user image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate

Those small numbers aren't nearly enough for the reps to stay bought.


You'd be surprised how cheaply political influence can be purchased.

/or not at all surprised
 
2022-12-30 10:02:03 AM  

Summoner101: Ker_Thwap: YakBoy42: [Fark user image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate

Those small numbers aren't nearly enough for the reps to stay bought.

You'd be surprised how cheaply political influence can be purchased.

/or not at all surprised


Donnypants "Will Treason for Peanuts" Trump is proof of this.
 
2022-12-30 10:24:33 AM  

tfresh: Tell us Porter how you know nothing about he insane complexity and cost of trying to keep an airline operating. Their problem is that they have to be good (safe). Now you have to spend the rest of between fast and cheap.


Requiring Southwest to have reciprocal agreements with other airlines so they can re-book their passengers on other flights would be a really good start.
 
2022-12-30 10:59:39 AM  

qorkfiend: tfresh: Tell us Porter how you know nothing about he insane complexity and cost of trying to keep an airline operating. Their problem is that they have to be good (safe). Now you have to spend the rest of between fast and cheap.

Requiring Southwest to have reciprocal agreements with other airlines so they can re-book their passengers on other flights would be a really good start.


It's not a bad idea but with the way that nearly every flight is overbooked and every plane in the inventory is in use the other airlines won't be able to pick up much of the slack.
 
2022-12-30 11:35:14 AM  

Intoxikatherine: tfresh: Tell us Porter how you know nothing about he insane complexity and cost of trying to keep an airline operating. Their problem is that they have to be good (safe). Now you have to spend the rest of between fast and cheap.

How come other airlines didn't leave passengers stranded for days upon days? Only Southwest.

I don't know why I'm wasting my time, though. Go gobble more corporate cock, it's the only action a Fat Farker is gonna get.


I heard their IT structure is crap and understaffed. That's what you get corporate America when you deem IT as the vanguard for corporate layoffs.
 
2022-12-30 11:36:47 AM  
Fixing the airlines doesn't need some sort of complicated plan. Fix the contract language on the tickets that says they don't owe you anything and make tickets an iron-clad guarantee of services regardless of any other factors and you're 90% there. No more bullshiat "oh the weather was bad so we can't do anything about it." No more "well, we had to sell your seat twice or else we would have lost money." No more "we didn't plan well for this, too bad, here's a voucher for an airport hotdog." Make it so that if you bought a ticket, you have purchased that specific seat on that specific trip no matter what, and let consumer lawsuits take care of the rest.

Sure, ticket prices might go up slightly, but that'll be well worth it.
 
2022-12-30 12:24:00 PM  

ColleenSezWhuut: tfresh: Tell us Porter how you know nothing about he insane complexity and cost of trying to keep an airline operating. Their problem is that they have to be good (safe). Now you have to spend the rest of between fast and cheap.

For less than the cost of the board's bonuses for one year they could have totally revamped the software that they have willfully neglected to update for years knowing full well that it was completely obsolete and a ticking time bomb.

This whole thing should have been avoided but the moronic MBAs in charge wanted those fat bonuses instead.


This.
 
2022-12-30 12:32:30 PM  
Surely these ideas worked the last ten times
 
2022-12-30 1:35:10 PM  

edmo: Surely these ideas worked the last ten times


Of course not.  They're fines against the business that will likely be a tax write off.  Rep Porters is just doing political theater.

Let's try something fresh: go after management personally for a change.  This of course won't happen because that might interrupt lobbyist bribery that our wonderful reps need for funding their campaigns and cocaine habits.
 
2022-12-30 1:49:41 PM  

YakBoy42: [Fark user image 425x345]
Top recipients of campaign contributions from the airline industry.

Something tells me any bill will die in the senate


Maybe.  But that $336K was out of $37.2 million total he raised.

And from 2017 to 2022, Schumer's top industry contributor was securities with $4.5 million.  Electronics were 5th with $900K.  In the 2019-2020 Congress Schumer didn't even receive $50,000 from the airlines, and he didn't receive $25,000 in the 2017-2018 Congress.  Yes, he was their #1 recipient in the current Congress, but it's still a drop in the bucket of his total fundraising.

So, no doubt, he'll listen to them.  But follow orders, for 1% of his fundraising?  Maybe.  But maybe not.

That said, when Feinstein goes, I'm all in on Senator Porter.
 
2022-12-30 2:32:57 PM  
Acting Secretary of Transportation Katie Porter
 
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