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cretinbob [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-29 10:47:09 AM  
They are doing that here with an old mall. Renovations for grow and retail areas. Really a smart move, unlike in California. Building a whole complex is pretty dumb, but California also seems to have farked it all up anyway.
 
Drunken Rampage [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 11:39:38 AM  
Hmmm. So there could be a reason to spend time in Barstow soon? It's always been just a pee stop with optional food.
 
CarnySaur [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:06:32 PM  
And still Cinnabon.
 
pastramithemosterotic
2022-12-29 12:06:40 PM  
Cinnabon and Spencer's would probably still do pretty good business in the weed mall
 
nucal [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:06:52 PM  
Cinnabon would still fit in well
 
whidbey
2022-12-29 12:07:36 PM  
Pot prohibition paranoia is the dumbest.
 
DannyBrandt [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:08:54 PM  
Ummm, if no one else is lining up to do it, I'll gladly open a Cinnabon franchise in there...
 
tobcc
2022-12-29 12:08:58 PM  
I live in Kansas City, Missouri and my family lives in Boulder, Co.   More often than not when I visit, I drive.  There is no MJ allowed in Kansas.  At the border of Kansas and Colorado it is like a moon scape of brown grass and wind farms.  I have said, since it was legal in Colorado, that I should build a similar Mall just in the state line of Colorado.

My perfect business plan is to sell to tourists and truckers and see how much the Kansas Hiway Patrol will pay for me to put a camera in my lot.   I mean they will stop anyone heading east out of Colorado for whatever stupid reason in hopes of "catching" someone anyway. The pulled me over doing 82 in 75 on a perfect clear day where you can see 100 miles in any direction when there was little to no traffic.   First thing he said to me was "Do I smell Marihuana in here?" .  When I said no, pulled the 'ol " Im gonna give you a warning this time" and let me go.
 
DannyBrandt [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:09:29 PM  
Boy, was I late
 
hammettman
2022-12-29 12:09:54 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: Cinnabon and Spencer's would probably still do pretty good business in the weed mall


Looking forward to Just Doritos.
 
asciibaron
2022-12-29 12:10:01 PM  
there was plenty of weed smokin at the mall in the 80's... every mall had that one area where "those people" hung out.  and by "those people" i mean pot heads.
 
pastramithemosterotic
2022-12-29 12:10:55 PM  

tobcc: First thing he said to me was "Do I smell Marihuana in here?" .  When I said no, pulled the 'ol " Im gonna give you a warning this time" and let me go.


"No, I only smell pig fat"
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:11:20 PM  
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Smithhaven Mall Lake Grove NY Circa 1980 or so.

I worked at the McCory's

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My mom worked at Sears for 18 years before they folded up.
 
geekbikerskum
2022-12-29 12:11:50 PM  

cretinbob: They are doing that here with an old mall. Renovations for grow and retail areas. Really a smart move, unlike in California. Building a whole complex is pretty dumb, but California also seems to have farked it all up anyway.


It doesn't sound like they're building a complex, just reusing a closed outlet mall.  I suppose some people would rather just look at a derelict outlet mall.
 
abbarach
2022-12-29 12:12:38 PM  
The plans became embroiled in controversy after it was revealed that the developer had made independent campaign contributions supporting multiple council members in their last elections. Barstow's attorney said that the contributions did not appear to be a conflict of interest for any of the sitting members, according to the Daily Press.

Sure, conservatives are all in on lobbying and campaign contributions until the money goes to the WRONG people...
 
NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:12:38 PM  
I miss late-80s/early-90s Spencers.  Such an absolutely random store.  The front was a combination of kitchy decorations and a smattering of adult gag gifts while the back of the store was the biggest selection of Star Trek merchandise of any place in the mall.
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:12:50 PM  
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This was the 2nd "head shop" in the Smithhaven Mall. Owned by my friend's dad.

The other one was an "eastern" shop that sold Chinese items and in the back was the counter with all the pot smoking items.
 
ace in your face [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:12:55 PM  
Spencer's and cinnabon definitely exist... I suspect weed will make them even stronger financially.
 
geekbikerskum
2022-12-29 12:14:15 PM  

DannyBrandt: Ummm, if no one else is lining up to do it, I'll gladly open a Cinnabon franchise in there...


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HighOnCraic
2022-12-29 12:15:23 PM  
Everybody come and play!
Throw every last care away!
Let's go to the mall, today!

/But don't forget the robot!
 
abbarach
2022-12-29 12:15:48 PM  

geekbikerskum: cretinbob: They are doing that here with an old mall. Renovations for grow and retail areas. Really a smart move, unlike in California. Building a whole complex is pretty dumb, but California also seems to have farked it all up anyway.

It doesn't sound like they're building a complex, just reusing a closed outlet mall.  I suppose some people would rather just look at a derelict outlet mall.


Also, the entire last paragraph:
The city stands to make a considerable amount of tax revenue if the development does receive final approval. Each manufacturing and cultivation business agreed to pay the city a $5 per square foot annual impact fee, which could run into the millions of dollars, while the development's retail and delivery businesses have agreed to pay 3% of their overall revenue to the city. The 23 pot businesses have already paid the city more than $420,000 in nonrefundable application fees.

"Sure, we could approve this use for a complex that has been closed for 20 years and has contributed NOTHING to the local economy.  Or we could clutch our pearls and
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mybluemake [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-29 12:16:12 PM  

geekbikerskum: cretinbob: They are doing that here with an old mall. Renovations for grow and retail areas. Really a smart move, unlike in California. Building a whole complex is pretty dumb, but California also seems to have farked it all up anyway.

It doesn't sound like they're building a complex, just reusing a closed outlet mall.  I suppose some people would rather just look at a derelict outlet mall.


I see a run on various shades of green exterior paint
 
sex_and_drugs_for_ian [BareFark]
2022-12-29 12:16:42 PM  

whidbey: Pot prohibition paranoia is the dumbest.


The day smoking weed is legalized in my state is the day that I quit smoking weed.

/ fark their permission slip
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:17:53 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: The day smoking weed is legalized in my state is the day that I...Die.



Fixed it for me, I live in god-damned GA.
 
hammettman
2022-12-29 12:18:22 PM  
"I would love to see a sign across Barstow Main Street up here that says Barstow belongs to Jesus," Vail said during the Dec. 21 meeting. "I'm afraid if you put up something like this you'll be saying Barstow belongs to Satan."

Does it really have to belong to one or the other?  And by the way, if it is going to belong to Jesus, Christians should know that Jesus was cool and down with cannabis usage.
 
Kalyco Jack [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:18:40 PM  

Drunken Rampage: Hmmm. So there could be a reason to spend time in Barstow soon? It's always been just a pee stop with optional food.


...and bats.
 
Kit Fister [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:19:22 PM  
Can we please buy the Sears brand name and bring it back as a competitor to Amazon that doesn't suck?

searscatalog.com - make it kinda old-timey throwback to the golden era of the Sears Catalog.
 
gameshowhost [OhFark]
2022-12-29 12:20:16 PM  
*i apologize*

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DannyBrandt [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:21:29 PM  
Not a bad business idea, build a mall that caters to the late gen-x/ early millennial crowd and allows pot.

Food court with Sbarros, that cheap Chinese place, and Chic fill-a before we all realized how f*cked up they were. A full arcade, one of those stores with the 3D poster things and holograms, a huge laser tag place. shiatty movie theater. Like Mallrats come to life if the 2020's.
 
abbarach
2022-12-29 12:21:51 PM  

hammettman: "I would love to see a sign across Barstow Main Street up here that says Barstow belongs to Jesus," Vail said during the Dec. 21 meeting. "I'm afraid if you put up something like this you'll be saying Barstow belongs to Satan."

Does it really have to belong to one or the other?  And by the way, if it is going to belong to Jesus, Christians should know that Jesus was cool and down with cannabis usage.


"God created man and woman and all life on Earth except for that Devil's Lettuce!"

I prefer to believe that weed and chocolate are proof that God exists, and he wants us to be happy.
 
Dewey Fidalgo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-29 12:23:20 PM  

tobcc: I live in Kansas City, Missouri and my family lives in Boulder, Co.   More often than not when I visit, I drive.  There is no MJ allowed in Kansas.  At the border of Kansas and Colorado it is like a moon scape of brown grass and wind farms.  I have said, since it was legal in Colorado, that I should build a similar Mall just in the state line of Colorado.

My perfect business plan is to sell to tourists and truckers and see how much the Kansas Hiway Patrol will pay for me to put a camera in my lot.   I mean they will stop anyone heading east out of Colorado for whatever stupid reason in hopes of "catching" someone anyway. The pulled me over doing 82 in 75 on a perfect clear day where you can see 100 miles in any direction when there was little to no traffic.   First thing he said to me was "Do I smell Marihuana in here?" .  When I said no, pulled the 'ol " Im gonna give you a warning this time" and let me go.


Kansas.  My parents visited me out here from Missouri some years ago.  After Oregon had legal pot.  They wanted to visit the local pot store.  My Dad had foot/heel issues and they considered getting some kind that might have been aided, but decided against that because they had to drive through farking Kansas.

When he went into his final illness, the grandkids were able to get him some edibles (in Missouri and not legal) that helped him.
 
Bith Set Me Up
2022-12-29 12:25:36 PM  
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure-Mayhem at the mall
Youtube H2DeBG7pAXU
 
geekbikerskum
2022-12-29 12:27:07 PM  

abbarach: Or we could clutch our pearls and
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Which is utterly stupid.  Making it a legal, regulated commodity and for sale only to those over 21 makes it harder for kids to get.

I don't know how it is now, but back when I was an 16-20 year old young'un and states were in the process of raising their drinking ages to 21, a lot of my contemporaries smoked weed rather than drinking alcohol because they couldn't buy booze in a liquor store but their dealer would gladly sell them an eighth or a quarter.
 
Peter_B_Risen
2022-12-29 12:29:13 PM  
Who doesn't want to play video games when they're stoned.

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common sense is an oxymoron [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-29 12:29:22 PM  
I guess it's appropriate that an outlet mall would have been slightly irregular, but this bothers me.

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steklo [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:29:55 PM  

abbarach: Devil's Lettuce


Jazz Lettuce
Youtube E1VEb6-EpVY
 
steklo [TotalFark]
2022-12-29 12:30:57 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: Who doesn't want to play video games when they're stoned.


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oh,so many "lost" hours spent here as well with many coins.
 
Spartapuss
2022-12-29 12:32:42 PM  

abbarach: hammettman: "I would love to see a sign across Barstow Main Street up here that says Barstow belongs to Jesus," Vail said during the Dec. 21 meeting. "I'm afraid if you put up something like this you'll be saying Barstow belongs to Satan."

Does it really have to belong to one or the other?  And by the way, if it is going to belong to Jesus, Christians should know that Jesus was cool and down with cannabis usage.

"God created man and woman and all life on Earth except for that Devil's Lettuce!"

I prefer to believe that weed and chocolate are proof that God exists, and he wants us to be happy.


The tree of knowledge was a metaphor for marijuana.
 
S'moreSchnapps
2022-12-29 12:33:18 PM  
Such a dumb idea. There isn't much of a population around Barstow to make it profitable. People driving North on the 15 from SoCal would likely have purchased from a shop near them that they already frequent. This is on top of the fact that there is a huge glut of product in CA. One place I like to go has been having a sale for a few months now on a variety of flower. The one thing they have in common: all were cultivated and packaged over a year ago. The sad part is that they would rather sell a crappy, sub-par product versus taking the stuff off the shelf and incurring a financial loss (not sure if they can write it off for tax purposes).

The only thing that could make it profitable are out-of-staters taking the product East to resell illegally. But even that seems like a stretch.
 
TheGreatGazoo
2022-12-29 12:39:37 PM  

Kit Fister: Can we please buy the Sears brand name and bring it back as a competitor to Amazon that doesn't suck?

searscatalog.com - make it kinda old-timey throwback to the golden era of the Sears Catalog.


How about Service Merchandise?  That was Amazon before Amazon.

/The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year
 
ReapTheChaos
2022-12-29 12:41:13 PM  
I don't recall Cinnabon being around in the 80s. Apparently they opened their first store on Dec of 1985, and their first franchise in Aug 1986, but I don't recall seeing them until the 90s.
 
kyuzokai [OhFark]
2022-12-29 12:42:41 PM  
As long as they have that one store with nunchuks, butterfly knives, incense, fake jade statuettes, blacklight posters, and novelty zippos, then I'm totally down to hang out at the weed mall like it's 1997 again.
 
farkitallletitend
2022-12-29 12:42:54 PM  
So they approved a giant Dave and Busters with no central plan other than a mall o stuff that sells pot. Are they high?
 
fragMasterFlash [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-29 12:43:04 PM  
Make with the disco pants and haircuts already...

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whidbey
2022-12-29 12:46:29 PM  

S'moreSchnapps: Such a dumb idea. There isn't much of a population around Barstow to make it profitable. People driving North on the 15 from SoCal would likely have purchased from a shop near them that they already frequent. This is on top of the fact that there is a huge glut of product in CA. One place I like to go has been having a sale for a few months now on a variety of flower. The one thing they have in common: all were cultivated and packaged over a year ago. The sad part is that they would rather sell a crappy, sub-par product versus taking the stuff off the shelf and incurring a financial loss (not sure if they can write it off for tax purposes).

The only thing that could make it profitable are out-of-staters taking the product East to resell illegally. But even that seems like a stretch.


OK then you don't have to shop there, hm?
 
I May Be Crazy But...
2022-12-29 12:55:05 PM  

abbarach: geekbikerskum: cretinbob: They are doing that here with an old mall. Renovations for grow and retail areas. Really a smart move, unlike in California. Building a whole complex is pretty dumb, but California also seems to have farked it all up anyway.

It doesn't sound like they're building a complex, just reusing a closed outlet mall.  I suppose some people would rather just look at a derelict outlet mall.

Also, the entire last paragraph:
The city stands to make a considerable amount of tax revenue if the development does receive final approval. Each manufacturing and cultivation business agreed to pay the city a $5 per square foot annual impact fee, which could run into the millions of dollars, while the development's retail and delivery businesses have agreed to pay 3% of their overall revenue to the city. The 23 pot businesses have already paid the city more than $420,000 in nonrefundable application fees.

"Sure, we could approve this use for a complex that has been closed for 20 years and has contributed NOTHING to the local economy.  Or we could clutch our pearls and
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Hehe.  $420 k.

Yes, I'm immature.
 
realmolo
2022-12-29 12:55:51 PM  

kyuzokai: As long as they have that one store with nunchuks, butterfly knives, incense, fake jade statuettes, blacklight posters, and novelty zippos, then I'm totally down to hang out at the weed mall like it's 1997 again.


Nah, man. 1987. That was "peak mall", for sure.

1997 was probably the last year before the general decline of malls, though.
 
Petey4335
2022-12-29 1:31:53 PM  

steklo: Peter_B_Risen: Who doesn't want to play video games when they're stoned.

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oh,so many "lost" hours spent here as well with many coins.


Kids bought me one of these for christmas as a 'dad needs retro fun'. Really cheap POS with half of the games in english and  half i never heard of.
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Snow Bros. is such a stupidly easy and weirdly fun game i spent way to many quarters with at the mall. And the retro thing has it.

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I spent a good hour playing Snow Bros. Last night before i accidentally hit the wrong button and ended the game instead of getting more lives. Probably would have spent much mich longer. It is 2 player collaborative. Trying to get Mrs.4335 to join me.

Or bubble bobble. Stupid collaborative games.

/also really miss 6 player double screen Xmen. Getting 4-6 players at the same time spending way too many quarters was awwwwwsome.
 
johnphantom
2022-12-29 1:35:55 PM  
When asking yourself "What would Jesus do" remember he gives license to all these evil Christians. Jesus was a schizophrenic human that half of you stupidly think was some sort of weak god.
 
iToad [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-12-29 1:36:58 PM  
Here in Vegas, one of the local dispensaries frequently has a taco truck parked outside.
 
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